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Submitted by drunkpandas 2318d ago | review

Loot Ninja Review: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

After lengthy delays and much anticipation, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is finally here. The last game of Solid Snake's story arc is more epic and intense than any other Metal Gear game to date. Combining entirely new gameplay elements with an amazing storyline, this is the Hideo Kojima's best work to date. (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, PS3) 10/10

taz8080  +   2318d ago
MGS comes back strong and bangs out a 10/10
drunkpandas  +   2318d ago
The game is flat out amazing. Going back on my second playthrough now. Even the second time around, you're so compelled to keep going. Kojima did an amazing job on the story. Don't want to say anymore and spoil it for anyone
juuken  +   2318d ago
The 10's keep rolling!
*amazed*
deeznuts  +   2318d ago
How does gamerankings work? Because the tens keep rolling in but they ain't counting them. It seems they counted every single freaking low score already, though.
Bonsai1214  +   2318d ago
i believe that gamerankings is selective on which sites they put on, and even though they rely on user submitted tips, they screen those as well.

which is why i'm happy n4g put on a meta for every review submitted.
taz8080  +   2318d ago
PS3 Killer app!!
drunkpandas  +   2318d ago
Agreed. It's well worth buying a PS3 just for Metal Gear Solid 4
taz8080  +   2318d ago
I wonder if any 360 fanboys will admit to liking this game?
drunkpandas  +   2318d ago
@1.2
From the looks of it, a lot of Xbox 360 fanboys are crapping all over the game, as expected. To be fair, PS3 fanboys did the same thing to Halo and Gears of War
Wildarmsjecht  +   2318d ago
Gears of War I can understand being a pretty fun game with a lack of decent story. I had fun doing co-op with a friend and trying to stay in the "shadows" (MGS reference for you fans :)) But Halo 3 had me heavily dissapointed, especially with some of the online shenanigans that went on. It felt like Halo 2, and they didn't bother to up their storyline ability. Gears was definately the better of the 2 games.

As for 360 fans hating on MGS...you can tell they want the game. Every time some news comes out about it being not a 10, or not selling an abysmal amount of copies they made up to begin with, they'll scream "HAH COMING TO 360zRs!!!!!" Envy at its finest I suppose.
fiercescuba  +   2318d ago
cutscenes
Some people say that the many cutscenes detract from the overall game play.
drunkpandas  +   2318d ago
I personally don't think it does at all. The cutscenes are all great and not once did I think "WTF will this end". In previous MGS games, you spent a lot of time watching the Codec to get story elements. I'd much rather watch the amazing cutscenes than just read the text and look at green-colored faces.

I haven't skipped any cutscenes on my second playthrough either.
Blademask  +   2318d ago
Drunk, thats normal.
Because you enjoy the game. People that don't enjoy the MEtal Gear series will complain about it, but I wonder why these people play it in the first place? Just because so many other people see value in it?
Kaneda  +   2318d ago
Mass Effects..
I don't know what those reviewers gave Mass Effects..
drunkpandas  +   2318d ago
@2.3
If you're asking me, we gave Mass Effect a 4.5/5. It would have gotten a 4.75 (making it 9.5/10), but our review scoring system at the time was whole numbers and .5 only, based out of a total score of 5.
PimpHandHappy  +   2318d ago
im on act 5
and i am not flaming here ok

PPL with only a 360 and the ppl that have no wanting to buy a PS3 because they are happy with the 360 are really missing out what a video game can be!

The are stuck with run of the mill FPS's! No game on the 360 will ever match this game! NEVER!

This is the hieght of my gaming life. Its like the 1st time you see your fav movie, BraveHeart in my case. It just reminds you what impact a well writen and well made story can have on your worldy outlook.

2me this game proves games are art and a amazing form of entertainment!

Its the best game ever 4me. That is about 22 years worth of gaming
MikeGdaGod  +   2318d ago
i agree. now that i have finished the game and have started my second play through, i can honestly say this is the best game i have EVER played.
PimpHandHappy  +   2318d ago
one thing about cut scenes
i will admit

putting a boss battle at the end of a cut scene really does wear you out! There was a few times i had to give myself a break after a epic cut scene.

In terms of gameplay the cut scenes give the gameplay a nice setting!

Go play any MG game and you will see they where heavy on cut scenes. Its just blueray and the amount of storage the PS3 offers that allows Kojima the freedom to really give a more epic story telling within the scenes...

its amazing and i cant say in words how great this game is to me. If your a Metal Gear fan then this is what you have been waiting for. Its the best video game ever made
drunkpandas  +   2318d ago
I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say it's the best game of all time, but it's insanely good and has a very strong chance of winning game of the year
taz8080  +   2318d ago
Cutscenes are a step up form codec reading.
likeaboss302  +   2318d ago
@taz8080
I wish they would have used the codec more. It seems like it was just in this game for the sake of putting it in but their was really no use for it since talking to Rose was worthless. In some games Metal Gear games you could get info from up to six characters on how to handle a situation. Plus the secret codecs etc.
PimpHandHappy  +   2318d ago
ok 4me
after i played Snake Eater on PS2 i thought it was the best game i have ever played...

not the most hours i have played a game

Just like MGS4 will not top COD or Warhawk or even Socom in terms of hours spent on the game.

4me personaly this game is the best game i have ever played.

let me add

so far

lol
drunkpandas  +   2318d ago
Fair enough. I'm closing in on matching my hours with GTA already in MGS4, based on playtime noted in my game saves.
name  +   2318d ago
If It wasn't for the 3 8's imagine what the meta score would be. :(
Spike47  +   2318d ago
Damn
I keep hearing from gamers that MGS4 is the best game they have ever played!

I have to get my hands on a copy ASAP.
OmarJA  +   2318d ago
jump out xbroken3fixme
MGS4 best game ever made nuff said
Veryangryxbot  +   2318d ago
And the slaughtering of the 360 continues today...
as the perfect scores for this game continues to pop out.

Play beyond.
DARK WITNESS  +   2318d ago
the funny thing is this;

people keep saying its the best game they have ever played. is that down to the gameplay which has not changed that much from the other mgs games apart from the change in camera... or is it because of the story and atmospher that pulls you into the game, all of which are created through the.. wait for it.. cutscenes.

of course you have got some other points that draw you in, but it is mostley the story, most of which is told through the very medium that people are complaining about.

I have said before what my own grip is with this game. i don't mind the amount of cutscenes, its the dialogue etc.

still a 10/10 and i am glad the bar has been set so high, now the other devs have something to aim for * not beat, but aim for at least ! *
likeaboss302  +   2318d ago
I agree the cutscenes are fine until some of the dialog or someone belching (are we eight year olds playing this?) ruins a serious moment.
likeaboss302  +   2318d ago
My fellow Metal Gear fans are letting me down.
I just don't understand all these 10's getting handed out like candy. I'm probably as big of a Metal Gear fan as they come but the game is not worth a 10. 9 out of the 10 at the most and here is why.

1) While the game is fun to play from act 3 on there really isn't much to play.
2) Part of the feeling that there is much to play is from Act 3 on it becomes cutscene city. Now don't get me wrong I like them but some serious editing was needed to cut the fat.
3) The Codec is barely used unlike in other games.
4) Had they found a way to include more of the story during gameplay sequences (like maybe letting you play as the supporting cast) it realyl would have put the game into a 10 out of 10 status.

As an interactive movie this is a fantastic experience. As a game it's above average and could have been much more. It was a fun ride for me though.
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DARK WITNESS  +   2318d ago
well you have a point.

here is the thing and i will fall back on IGN's idea of what makes a 10/10 game.

Just like GTA 4, Mgs 4 is not perfect ( read my other posts on it ).

but as they said 10/10 does not mean its perfect but its pushing it on a lot of other levels. If you look at why we are getting so many 10/10 scores, well its fair to say two of the biggest games have released with in a month or so of each other.

both of them, on the new hardware and we have all been looking forward to seeing how they would make the transition.

lets be real gta, mgs are right up there in the heavens when it comes to the big IPs. its not like any of the other lesser games have also been getting 10/10 scores.

now you mention it, it really would have been nice to play as Radien for example. it was cool playing him in mgs 2 with the sword.

I have unlocked his ninja face camo, but it does not look right with out the sword lol.

enjoy all the 10/10 while you can, there wont be anymore for a while to come.

all of the points you have mentioned are good and could have really added that much more to the gameplay.

however when you think of the 10/10 score, think of Mgs and compare it to the other crap that has been out so far and dared to call itself next gen...

if we are to say that No game is perfect and MGS should be a 9. then i think its faire to say every other game so far should have 1 or 2 points automatically deducted off.

and while i am say all this.. i am still more of an xbox fan, but credit where credit is due, MGS still tops the lot thus far !
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likeaboss302  +   2318d ago
Well what I worry about is this give Hideo the ok to keep this up. He really needs to start moving to story telling through gameplay with cutscenes mixed throughout. A much better balance would make for a truly epic experience. My girlfriend kept joking with me during MGS4 asking if I was "Enjoying my movie". It took me a little under 17 hrs to finish the game and I played it like all the other Metal Gear games. Sneak in some parts, fight in others, don't "kill" the bosses, look for items, watch the cutscenes, etc.

Oh boy hear come the MGS4 fan boys trying to tear any constructive criticism up with the disagree button.
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DARK WITNESS  +   2318d ago
oh yes you are totally correct.

unfortunately i think sometimes devs can be influenced by a lot more then we think when making these games and for whatever reason, they don't always represent the original vission they had.

remember Kojima himself said he was not totally happy with the final product.

The question is if he had more time or more space ( 100 gig BR ) would we have just had more cutscenes or more gameplay.

telling more of the story through the gameplay would just take it to such a new hight.

bubble for you. :-)
likeaboss302  +   2318d ago
I was wondering what he wasn't happy about as well. We'll probably never know but I hope that if he had more space it would have been used for gameplay. I really don't see what else could have been added by cutscenes. The cutscenes already told the Metal Gear story from the original MSX2 game.

When Raiden was first shown instead of making that all cutscene they should have let you play it with a cutscene that opened the gameplay sequence and one at the end. Little things like that help make the player feel more in control of whats going on.
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Blademask  +   2318d ago
I think saying "could have been much more" applies to everything. It seems to be the popular thing to say today.
All games could have been much more, but they are what fit in the budgeted time. And thats that.

The main difference between MGS4 and GTA4 or other overhyped games, is that MGS4 wasn't overhyped. Thats why everyone is shocked by the 10's. I mean, GAMESPOT? Hello? Until you play it.

MGS4 is the best gaming has to offer at the time of this post. There are issues with it, as there are issues with every title. But those issues don't take away from the overall picture of the game. I think 10's being handed out previously, is completely retarded. They have been abused on titles that clearly weren't perfect/GRAND after you bought them. Like GTA4, GTA4 is the most boring game in the entire series. They removed the FUN elements from the previous titles, the game is completely repetitive, and the online is the only saving grace. Barely. The value of MGS4 as an entry to great gaming is undeniable, yes there are issues. Again as anything has issues, but compared to other titles right now, its well above the rest.

MGS4 doesn't suffer from gameplay crushing problems.Each ACT is fresh, depending on your game play style, the game can be very intense. The ability to get through an "action" stealth game without killing enemies is a GREAT plus, as is playing in FPS more or 3rd mode. I've listed my complaints with the series in previous posts, but its nothing that should take away from the title in the current state of reviews out there. There is literally nothing else that comes close to this title. It really did just create a bar. Many people just haven't touched a game this extensive before. I could honestly say that its a unique gaming experience.

I'm sorry, if Halo3/Gears can get a 10 for story, and game play with all the bugs\short campaigns, I feel that its perfectly Valid for MGS4 to get a 10. The reviews are busted right now, but its unfair to start trying to correct them now because MGS4 is actually deserving of the 10s.

In the world BEFORE this terrible generation, MGS4 would be a 9. And Halo3/GTA4 would have been 8's.
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VirusE  +   2318d ago
Blade i haven’t played MGS4 yet due to my job but i imagine it deserves the 10s it is getting.... Just like halo and gears deserved the scores they got at the time they got them. I have yet to play a game that got 90+ on metacritic that i didnt think deserved it but that is my opinion.
Harry190  +   2318d ago
Off-topic
I think the N4G advertisements are getting a little too much
invasive lately.
DarthTigra  +   2318d ago
I agree,but if it pays the bills and keeps the site running im all for it
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Whoooop  +   2318d ago
Ahhhh sh*t
Another perfect score...
VirusE  +   2318d ago
I wanna slit my wrist! I still have yet to play MGS4 and due to time shortages i may have to wait until august:(.

Don't spoil anything for me but can someone at least confirm that the otacon mom humping silliness doesn’t make a return?

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