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PS4's Paywall: Does It Matter? - Podcast Beyond

More than 130 weeks ago, Colin said PlayStation charging for online would be a mistake. Does PlayStation Plus solve the problem?

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lifeisgamesok1412d ago ShowReplies(4)
gameon19851412d ago

Yea it matters when you are paying for crap. Always being hacked all ways down defiantly is not something worth paying for.

GarrusVakarian1412d ago (Edited 1412d ago )

"Always", he says. Gather round boys and girls, let's look up what 'always' means:

Always
adverb
1.
at all times; on all occasions.

Yeah.....

" all ways down defiantly"

Wut? Jesus, if you're going to troll, at least put some damn effort into your spelling.

gameon19851412d ago

Post your smart ass remarks all you want, but it still doesn't change the fact that PSN is garbage, and you still pay for it.

ScottyHoss1411d ago

My English prof would tear you a new one for using always when it's not constant ;) someone not pass grade school? (sorry N4G, I know he can't reply it's just I find monkeys typing hilarious)

RosweeSon1411d ago

Xbox live yeah? Neither are impervious to a hack or some downtime, first time I used my xbox 360 in the last few weeks load it up, xbox live was down, and I'm paying for that privilege

Kavorklestein1411d ago (Edited 1411d ago )

Liar. Everything I've read pretty much painted the picture that the downs ONLY affected diablo 3 gamers, and it was due to the DDOS attack on BLIZZARD'S servers that did it...Blizzard relaying info back and forth to MS servers etc.. and your downtime IF you played diablo 3, was brief if at all.

Not a full day, and not twice within two weeks like PSN, one from DDos, and the other one was just random and stupid.

I'm not saying PSN sucks, but it's NOT XBL.
And Xbl's ONLY downfall when compared to PSN is not having as many higher quality 'free games'
this is, of course my opinion, but I'm not gonna lie to myself either.

Kayant1411d ago (Edited 1411d ago )

"Always being hacked all ways down defiantly is not something worth paying for." - Wrong on both accounts.

captain_slow821411d ago

ps+ is an awesome service and the fact multi is behind the pay wall now i really dont care because i wont be getting rid of ps+ any time soon :D

RosweeSon1411d ago (Edited 1411d ago )

Exactly and at the end of the day sony have only started charging in the last year Microsoft have charged since day one on the original xbox yet ps3 is and still is entirely free to play online, has been for the whole generation so what it's changed for ps4 of you own a sony console your bound to get ps+ at some point even if it's for that months free games, great service won't be cancelling anytime soon.

As for the Triple AAA games that sony has been offering on ps3 and not on ps4 it's because they have 6/7 years worth on ps3, ps4 has barely 9 months worth and probably barely 10 games that could go up on the service, come Christmas when all the sequels start releasing you'll get your AAA games on ps4, killzone will be up by chrimbo and no doubt infamous or something like that. They never held back on the ps3 it may seem like they are on ps4 but what were they gonna do give you all the £50 launch games for free? Doubtful let's face it Microsoft wouldn't even give you any games day one, was a good 6 months later so it could be worse could be paying and getting no games at all.

DualWielding1411d ago

what sucks is that now that people are forced to subscribe to play online Sony has no need to deliver with the free games like it did on PS3 where it had to give triple A titles or people would simply not subscribe

caseh1411d ago

"Sony has no need to deliver with the free games like it did on PS3 where it had to give triple A titles or people would simply not subscribe"

This is what concerns me, on PS3 it was an option. An option I happily took once I saw some of the games on offer.

I guess we'll see how it pans out.

Kayant1411d ago

Well that will come soon. You have to remember -

1. PS4 is a new platform.
2. Publishers are less likely to make deals because they games still have a lot of value retail/digital.
3. Library is fairly small.
4. It took about a year for PS3 to get a AAA title on PS+ also when the service was introduced.

DualWielding1411d ago

That's all true but you have to consider:

1. Sony is obliterating Microsoft on sales unlike last gen

2. Sony was forced to offer AAA games on PS3 because subscription levels were very low before they did.... now that PS+ is mandatory subscription levels are very high

3. Sony is a business. if just requiring everybody to subscribe in order to play online is enough to have 90% subscription rate, why spend extra money in offering better games

Kayant1411d ago

1. "Sony is obliterating Microsoft on sales unlike last gen" - So? Value and Prices of games wouldn't change a pub isn't going to be more willing to do deals.

2. "Sony was forced to offer AAA games on PS3 because subscription levels were very low before they did.... now that PS+ is mandatory subscription levels are very high" - I don't know much on that but if that's the case it still took a year for a AAA to come to said service.

3. "Sony is a business. if just requiring everybody to subscribe in order to play online is enough to have 90% subscription rate, why spend extra money in offering better games" - The money isn't just spend on that though it's also spent on the service as a whole.

I mean look MS has more money than Sony/changed their policies on XB1 to sub based for access and are only offering downloadable/smaller scale titles.
You can't really expect them to be offering launch titles on PS+ so early on. Already the end of the year leading onto next year. Things should get better if not then there is a problem.

XtraTrstrL1411d ago

I don't like how it was announced way back. It was kinda sneaky how Jack ran past it in his talk. I don't like how they talk about games being free, you are actually paying for the games through PS+, so they aren't literally free games. That is a small annoyance to me whenever people bring that up. Other than that, yeah, the bonuses overall kill Xbox Live(whom only recently started giving games out to not be utterly trampled by PS4's success, after years and years of pocketing Live subscription $$$ as basically full profit).

PSN isn't quite up to par with Live though with stability yet, understandably so when you consider Live has been charging since it's inception with the original Xbox in like '03 I believe when I first tried it for Capcom vs SNK 2:EO. So, Live has had lots of time to slowly upgrade, while pocketing tons of profit. Compared to something like Steam, they both lose out, because Steam is awesome and doesn't charge - but I understand things seem to work a lil differently in the console world.

The way I see it, since it seems there's no turning back at this point - as long as PSN upgrades at a faster rate than Live has over the years(which at this point it basically has to) then I'm accepting of it. Especially considering I usually wait to renew my subscription until there's a discount on the 1yr PS+ for like $35 or so.

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