Console platforms are always evolving, and manufacturers often look into pushing the envelope by providing their developers with the best tools to create the best games, but also to make their life easier. Sony seems to be planning to do just that.
The tools built by the ICE team will allow 3rd party devs to really come into gripes with the PS4. Sonys own version of "DX12" it's time we start seeing the real power advantage of the PS4 over x1
We already see the advantage, this will only make it that much better.
What we've been seeing is the gap between multiplatforms closing, and exclusives look great on both platforms. PC > Xbox 1 = PS4 Cry all you want heavy, the multiplatform parity is showing on nearly all games now and Ryse is still the most visual impressive game released.
@XBLSkull Wishful thinking much?
@XBLSkull When you mention Ryse, you're referring to the coming PC version right? Eh, even so, PS4 games still outshine it. Oh well. Also, must be hard to have Xbone 'exclusives' not even be actual exclusives eh?
@XBLSkull And what innovation Ryse brought to next gen? Press Y when it's yellow, press X when it's blue. At the end of the day you are doing what 5 year olds learn to do. It looks good don't get me wrong but the gameplay mechanics would only be challenging to a child.
"Competitive advantage" that's highly debatable.
^^^^^^^ Can anyone say The Order? At least that is what is consistently being said by previewers. All looks, not so good [email protected] to boot
[email protected] You are totally delusional if you think that the power gap between PS4 and x1 Will every closes. How can x1 GPU with 50% less GPU cores have the power of the PS4 GPU. This is ridiculous. Parity is just a developer not using the power advantage of the PS4. PS4 is just more powerful hardware than X1 . No amount of Da Cloud , DX12 or new SKU update will change that. XBLSkull just enjoy x1 exclusives and don't worry about the PS4 having the superior version of multi platform games. [email protected] PC fanboys make me laugh . How much better PCs are that consoles. MrPink2013 "but on a technical level that is where the PC can trump consoles." . Yes But a what price point.!!! You made mention that The Witcher 3 will not be 1080P 60fps on PS4. But The Witcher 3 will not be 1080P 60fps on many PC . The Witcher 3 will not run 1080P 60fps on a GTX 780 Ti . A graphic card that cost $700 bucks. The PS4 has all games but two in 1080P except for Battlefield 4 900p 60fps and Watchdogs 900p 30fps. Their is no computer that can out preform the PS4 at a $400 price point proven by GameSpot.com http://n4g.com/news/1576422... PC fanboys pretend that pc was built by God by hand. Game consoles has superior quality in online multi player competitive games. Pc is plagued by hackers and cheaters that download software on their computer to help them cheat in online multi player competitive games. You get what you pay for with PSN and xbox live. Sony and Microsoft police there online service on like free pc.
@kribwalker First I wanna thank all the people who got you to one bubble its been a long time coming. Now Nobody said the order has no good gameplay you might wanna go read those previews again all the comments were about certain things like the aim with the thermite gun which felt off and remember everyone has been playing the same demo so Ready at Dawn has a lot of months to fix those elements of the game probably the reason for the delay so try harder next time. And the Order is 1080p so that you trying to call the full resolution 800p is sad because you know damn well it has to do with the borders at the top and bottom of the screen. And remember with one bubble comes great trolling ಠ_ಠ.
It's just an job ad, theyre looking for an senior engineer...big deal?? I thought this happens all the time in the IT sector..I guess when Sony does it it's somehow revolutionary and the final nail in the MS's coffin FO SHO
Lol it really is just a job add. And to think abriel called out eurogamer for a click-seeking title the other day... Oh well, going by the comments above it looks like a fine article to shout "I love Sony!" If you want bubbles.
@XBLSkull A: Ryse isn't the most visually impressive. B: If Ryse were on PS4 it would look and run better. Have you guys still not noticed the pattern here?
What is funny is that most people in here seem to not understand what is going on at all! This isn't a job to improve the drivers or software for the PS4 at all. It is nothing near anything like DX12 or anything of the sorts that has to do with graphics or even the internals of the PS4 (which I am sure Sony as well as everyone else is working on). This is for a job developing Java for server side and some client side stuff on a network based infrastructure implementing needed service support FOR the PS3, PS4 and Vita. You might as best have a hand in defining console related features, to make it happen on the server side. That is it!
There isn't that big of a difference but anyways, not having a X1, I want to see the best for my PS4.
Only 633,600 pixels per frame difference, on average, along with better frame rates, but who's counting... right?
Its not about seeing differences in power, but rather accepting that no system is going to remain static in terms of support. Thinking that the XB1 can meet much less exceed what the PS4 is supposedly capable of doing, while the PS4 will only remain the same. Granted, more is going to have to be done than multiplatform titles.
I don't know why anyone would think the PS4 won't improve over time. The PS3 did so why wouldn't Sony's new console? The difference with the XBOX One is they were able to get added performance by unlocking Kinect and will also be able to take advantage of DX12. This will help that system reach better parity with the PS4 but the PS4 will always have better hardware with its more advanced RAM and GPU.
What we are seeing is that Xbox One is reaching parity with PS4 very quickly. The PS4 will have an advantage in raw horsepower, but we all know it is far more complex than that. More importantly isn't just what the hardware is, but what the hardware enables game developers to do. We are reaching a point where hardware "power" no longer defines what game developers can really do that has a significant impact on the gaming mechanics. We are now talking about, this little jagged edge here, or this little shadow there, and so on. This isn't going from 2D to 3D or that sorts. The next arena this is happening in is in the cloud and we are at the tip of it starting already with massive open world games online. Titanfall and now Destiny is one of the first forays into this for consoles, and more to come. The uncharted territory is massive computational resources online. The console pales in comparison, and any differences between consoles are negligible. Bickering about why Xbox One is better or worse than PS4 is just plain ridiculous when that gap is so much bigger on PC, yet those that argue chose Xbox One or PS4!!!
Yes. You're 100% right! We're not seeing MS push performance in attempt to match that of the PS4's just so that they can say the XB1 can do 1080p and 60 fps, regardless of whatever further performance sacrifices there are, we're just seeing the "natural" technological progression of one console over another Because the other one will never improve. Gosh, its like you didn't understand a thing I said before and are just commenting from the basis of your own immobile and stagnant beliefs. In regards to technology no less - I feel so stupid! (The really sad thing about this, I have to put "/sarcasm" or some will take this seriously.) /sarcasm XD
Tools will always be improving that in itself is no news that is just basic knowledge and info trying to hype stuff up referring to dx 12 doesnt really matteropen gl cancopy and duplicate dx12 features such as bundling and other possible features at the moment there is no reason to suspect any exclusive dx12 features to be only possible on microsft xbox one hardware. even if xb1 has some on chip esram etc. Surely Sony will be looking into to improve their competetive advantage with new system tools and drivers.
Microsoft cant catch a brake! lol... http://fairimmigration.file...
There's really no need for a DX12 alternative... Linux - FreeBSD in PS4's case - already has very low hardware access. Side note: The reason why we get the 6000000 stability updates is because the low level access of unix/linux is powered by a massive set of libraries. MS's DX11/12 is a bit singular in terms of functional application.
post a link for this fact."Sony's own version of "DX12"
You know that DX12 doesn't have exlusive features.. right? PS4 has all features that DX12 has. DX12 is just a library of tools. Even if OpenGL or FreeBSD didn't have these tools they could easily be added in, even by developers themselves. These are far more open libraries. DX is blatantly insignificant in helping the progress of these libraries. It has hindered the progress of superior, more open, and highly compatible libraries like OpenGL which can be accessed on PC, Mac, and even Android. The only reason DX is relevant is because it was one of Microsoft's few successful marketing campaigns that got a bunch of developers on board. The reason DX exists was to keep developers on their platform from releasing it on Mac, their main competition.
sony still trying to compete . havent they learned their lesson? Nintendo has, and always will have better, more challenging, more talented looking, more inventive, more gory exclusives. Just join Nintendo sony, and call it a night, cus it aint working! Or maybe team up with Microsoft, maybe then your plans of "domination", will work. This gen, ps4 in the lead with more sales, wiiU in the lead with better games .. Dont get me wrong sony, i like your exclusives, but stop trying to compete with Nintendo, lol. My bubbles! lol I went from 5, to 1 bubble, because SonyDrones get so mad, when the truth is spoken. Acting like im trolling . . LMAO . grow a pair!!
This is why you have one bubble.
and its about to pop
I just read "nintendo" and "inventive" in the same sentence. I laughed. Sorry. I really did.
Mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario mario Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda Zelda. Innovative my butt.
Grow a pair? Your the one that is going on a rant on how you think Nintendo exclusives are better and all that. You are literally being a whiny fanboy that can't get over the fact Sony knows what they are doing this gen. Edit: Looking at your History I doubt you ever had more than 1 bubble.
Let's pretend that Nintendo having the best first party games wasn't a matter of personal taste. Why would you want Sony to stop "trying" to compete? Wouldn't Sony's first party games drop in quality if they stopped competing with their rivals? Edit: And what does more "talented looking games" even mean? And more gory exclusives? Really? I don't really get your point.
You are funny sir
Bubble up for being the biggest retard on n4g
God of War told me to tell you hi concerning your,"Gory", comment. Since when did gore become a metric for quality?
Enjoy your 2 Nintendo exclusives this year.
Look I have a WiiU and had every other Nintendo console. But Sony isn't trying to compete with Nintendo and hadn't been since the PS1 came out. They took the crown from Nintendo back than and have kept it. Just add up console and software sales for the last 4 generations. Because all these companies care about are sales.
Bro you try to hard to troll. Yet apparently still good enough for a sad few lol
So nintedno has been going downhill in console sales since nes. They get lucky with fluky wii and now it's sales are back to gc levels and you want to bash sony? All if sony's consoles have sold like crazy. Nintendo cannot say the same. Go play your Nintendo games that have been around forever. They aren't innovators. They make childish and kiddy games little boy
The 1st gen games look amazing and I can't wait to see what else they can squeeze out of this powerhouse. Naughty dog I am looking at you.
I know , it gets me pretty excited about the future on the ps4 knowing how good games are going to get from here on out, just look at the weather in drive club , imagine those kinds of effects in other games, I can't wait.
Both consoles manufactures will provide better tooling through the life cycle of their consoles! How is this news exactly?
That's right. Don't sit on your lazy butts and keep improving. That's why I love Sony.
I want more games like P.T
I'm not sure how this is news. I've been hearing about this since the PS4 came out! Sometimes I like DS... Not right now though
I reckon what we have seen up to now is straight off the systems back , not even scratching the surface.
To the people saying there isn't much room for improvement on consoles I beg of you to just look at last gen we went from resistance to last of us if that's not a huuuuuge improvement I don't know what is
Sony's API is already very low level, CPU Multithreading is far beyond what the X1 is capable of doing with DX11, the SDKs are already mature. I don't think gains will be that substantial on PS4. The Xbox One was launched with bad drivers, poor SDKs, a 10% GPU reserve, and the extremely outdated dX11. It's not as easy to develop for.
it's nice to see sony and ms both pushing their system's power. We are now seeing multi platform titles looking mostly identical, and the exclusives for each platform pushing the envelope as much as possible and looking fantastic.
Look 8 elitist Sony fanboys read your comment. I know this because your comment is respectful and generally accuate and yet because you didnt say "everything PS4 is better" you got exactly 8 dislikes. I personally think you are right. The differences I have seen in the multiplats are very minor and do not detract from the XB1 version gameplay what so ever. Games still look beautiful on the XB1 when compared to last generation and I can use my XB1 as a full on DVR and media device. I cant do that with my PS4. I buy systems for exclusives anyway, most of the time. Neither is excelling at that right now. If there is a 10% or so difference in game quality from my PS4 to XB1, I really dont care. But my XB1 does more stuff than my PS4 can do. I do care about that. I love my cable TV options with XB and I love my remote play on my Vita, But that in no way means that Sony sucks or MS sucks compared to the other. That is what Sony fans will tell you though.
hah thanks, its nice to see a positive response once in a while too. Yah i'm enjoying both systems right now too. Its a shame we all can't come together and appreciate gaming as a whole. I like them both for exclusives and key platform differentiators like you said. I'm excited to see where all these new features and optimizations go this generation.
Fix that Vita problem first.
This is news?
so consoles are like super saiyans.
How about releasing some exclusives?
The more advanced tools for it, the better. @EvilWay ?????
But the PS4 is all powerful....
XBLSkull + 4h ago | Trolling | hide What we've been seeing is the gap between multiplatforms closing, and exclusives look great on both platforms. PC > Xbox 1 = PS4 Cry all you want heavy, the multiplatform parity is showing on nearly all games now and Ryse is still the most visual impressive game released.ITS LOOKING GENUINE PIXAR LEVE,and according to him,and old build im glad you admitted parity,and thats choosen parity by the devs. near parity to be more accurate,ps4 multiplat still look and play a lil better than xones. and could(EASILY) be better if devs didnt choose near parity and really took advantage of the ps4 kz/infamous/ look better and play much better.. ryse is a constant very low 20's fps game,sometimes lower. other games that are about to be out that smash the shit out of ryse on a technical lever are the order and tomorrows children(i can only imagine uncharted).. tomorrows children are taking heavy advantage of gpgpu compute and making that game look silly good. there a tc dev in neogaf talking heavily about the gpgpu rendering compute usage in that game in order to get its unique look and graphics
Look it is no secret that I am a big fan of Playstation 4 but no Ryse isn't the best looking game right now and no there isn't anything on PS4 that is going to top the truly best looking games on PC. Nothing any developer on any platform has shown has come anywhere close to the likes of Cyberpunk 2077 or Star Citizen. Those games will never be playable in the form they were shown in on PS4 or any other system and no low end or even mid range pc is going to be able to play them. There is arguing preference and then there are the raw facts. I am anticipating a great deal of big games for Playstation 4 like Final Fantasy XV and Uncharted 4 : A Thief's End. Nothing on consoles is going to look as good as the two games I mentioned earlier. No amount of wishful thinking changes raw spec's of hardware. We don't have to like it but debating it and pretending there is something that will is ridiculous.
Who would think otherwise, if I was spending $1000 plus on a gpu , I would be pretty pissed if it wasn't better performing than a ps4, but as statics say the majority of pcs don't 3 en have the hardware to beat the new consoles. I have a gt 450 in my pc , it can't even run dead rising 3, they say the minimum is a 570 or something stupid. It would cost me here in Australia about $1200 just to get minimum settings on the game.
Why do people think that these drivers are meant to help developers have an easier time in game developement which in turn allows them to finish games faster but this tool is all up to the developer on how they want to use it. Some developers can finish the game and make things better this will be most useful to indie developers.
When will third party devs take advantage? Will we see titles like The Witcher 3, The Division, Far Cry 4 etc take advantage?
Unfortunately, a lot of the times the way these things work is with updated versions of the API, or all new commands, both of which are required when the game is compiled (before going on the blu-ray, or being uploaded). So it may be possible to patch the improvements into a game later. But since ICE team is always talked about being very low level improvements, it might require the entire game to be recompiled with the new api. In that scenario, even if the API allows them to just update their API and recompile without having to alter any code, the patch would end up being around the full size of the original game.
This is all well and good, but once DX12, The Cloud, 10% GPU from Kinect, and Releasing in More Territories all combine to form the Super Mecha XBox One, you'll see. You'll all see. Also you can't snap apps on PS4, and Ryse is best looking game ever.
Still makes me chuckle when fanboys think that the PS4 will remain as it is, drivers and tools wise.
This is great news, whether it be for PS4 or XB1. Improvements will come for both consoles and these should be welcomed. Only immature people use news like this to start a flame war.
Get back in line console scrubs so sick and tired of this console war that does even matter... play your fucking game on whatever you play it on.