Nyko's Chris Arbogast explains why an intercooler is needed for the Playstation 4 next-gen system.
Good going nyko!
There's no real analtics I've seen from Nyko that go into detail about how they scientifically test the product under various conditions and environments. How it works when attatched. Without attatched. With the SKU fan on or off. Until I see these kind of raw numbers, I'd say don't take anyones word on this being "useful".
Agreed. Do not buy. I remember when their coolers actually messed up consoles instead of helping them.
Agreed. Do not buy any accessory from Nyko, my first and second Xbox 360 we're damaged by Nyko's "intercooler" accessory. Edit: After I noticed it was the intercooler, so I threw it in the trash, wasted of $24+$450+$300.
"You need a PS4 imtercooler, because we need your money"
My PS4 been running loud lately. Seems to be only when I run Metro Redux
Yeah, this comment is coming from a MARKETING director. I worked at GameStop for almost 3 years, and heard many people angry at buying the cooling system for the original 360 when it rrod-ed. Hold off for third party testing and data or use at your own risk
Nyko's PS3 Intercooler actually damaged PS3's. The reason is because Sony designed the PS3 to have an intake/outtake cooling system where air would enter the front vents and be blown out the back. The Intercooler would just recirculate the hot air back into the PS3. I'm assuming that the PS4 has a similar cooling design in place, meaning the Intercooler would cause the same problems.
If data comes out saying that it helps, I'll get one. If not, no thanks.
Same thing happened with the 360, the intercooler altered the airflow through the console causing more heat. I'll trust Microsoft and Sony engineers over Nyko ones any day. Clearly a cash grab by Nyko and a great way to void a warranty.
How is this news? Of course a marketing director is going to say the product he's marketing is essential. This would only be news if it was the opposite way, "Breaking News: Marketing Director tells public not to buy the product he's marketing! Global Peace is achieved!! Pigs trained successfuly as commercial airline pilots!"
Marketing Director of Nyko explains why you need a PlayStation 4 Intercooler. Absolutely nothing wrong with that./s I think if Nyko could back their product with a console-replacement warranty, people would be less hesitant to try it. Historically though, my experiences have been bad as their intercooler totally wrecked my second XBOX 360.
Nope that's BS considering how many ps3 their useless cooler killed in the past . It might not be the same product , but maybe such the site could consider mentioning past issues with the brand and that kind of accessories , before gleely and obliviouly advertising such crap ?
Their new ones work better, they can't harm the systems. The old ones push heat back into the system (which was a dumb idea). But the new ones suck heat out, draw back is they aren't build to handle to much of that.
Quite frankly i wouldnt be caught giving them a chance when their cooler product were known to damage past consoles , without actual concrete intel on the matter . It still relies on the console's power supply after all and probably strains it , at an unknown yet level . "Better" isnt nearly enough when the purpose is precisely to prolonge a console's lifetime , and you helped shortened it before . Worst of all , without even some rumor about console overheating with both the ps4 and XB1
You must have bad luck then, my PS3 Slim runs fine it one. An where some proof it would harm your system?
Uh ? It's not bad luck , it is a matter relatively known and public , as you can see in the thread and and most of all , elsewhere . If anything , i've seen enough returns of both ps3 and 360 because of it at the shop .If anything , you're the lucky one , with this death trap . you were yourself mentioning how "the old ones push heat back into the system " . Doesnt it strike you as obviously bad when it comes to cooling ? Please do your research and stop defending them If you mean the new one , again , why would anyone trust the new model on the back of the POS they initially released , and when the console doesnt need it ? They had no qualm releasing a scam the first time . PS : It didnt happen to me . I refused to use that and never needed a cooling system .
Any home theater system that keeps the components in a glass faced cabinet should have ventilation for the cabinet itself, along with dust filters. The cooler electronics are kept, the longer they last. it's a well known fact. Anyone here ever been in a server room? Brrrrr.... after an hour or two you need a winter coat even if it's summertime outside. They're kept that way because it optimizes component life.
I'm actually studying Server Administration and Networking, and I can tell you the ventilation and Air cooling of the room is to keep the servers cooled, since they generate extreme amounts of heat, its not just to prolong hardware life. I had my training in the Data Center, and its cold as f$#%.
Go to a server room if the air conditioning s broken. It is like a sauna in there.
The ventilation can be passive so long as you follow the manufacturers recommendations for space required around the product. Most hotter electronics already have a fan to push out the heat, so just gotta make sure that that fan has enough space behind it move the air out of the cabinet. Usually just a large hole in the back is sufficient. I personally use a series of large computer fans that suck air out through chimney style duct work in my entertainment center because it's completely enclosed with the doors shut, and it's all built into the wall, so not enough room for ventilation. It's just a few 120mm PC case fans and some AC duct work I fashioned to a custom size for the entertainment center itself. IT's all run through a USB hub and is quiet since the fans are built into the wood.
I have my ps4 next to 2 tvs, a pc with two gpu's, and a laptop. It's never been too loud, it's never overheated. The one time I've hear of a ps4 overheating is when my brother's friend kept his in a tiny glass case. The intercooler is a useless product.
Nyko's marketing directer. Now there's a source I trust!
All you actually need is to keep the console away from anything that might obstruct the flow of air through the console. I have mine sitting on a small table next to my television stand and the only other thing on that table is a small lamp.
Supercharged PC. from 8 years ago.
Nonsense there is no need for this product.
Of course nyko says use its product. A game fairly hard and have had no problems. Yet.
Don't these things do more harm than good? I don't think I would use one...
It does do more harm, it puts more stress on your system's power supply. The product is not even licensed by Playstation.
No it doesn't use power from the PS4 power supply. Perhaps do a little reading before you just make up stuff. These fans are powered via 110v. The unit plugs into the PS4 where you'd normally plug in the power cord from the wall outlet. Than the power cord plugs into this cooler. here... newegg has some decent pictures. http://www.newegg.com/Produ... http://n4g.com/news/1579932... Also, this doesn't force air into the PS4. The main PS4 fan draws air from all the little vents on the sides of the case, then pushes it through a duct that as it gets closer to the rear, it widens to spread out the flow. This device helps remove that air, making the main ps4 fan not have to work as hard due to the slight negative pressure created by the exhaust. To what extent will this help? probably 15-20'f.
@Andrew In theory, and at it's simplest level, you are right about the air flow. However, since this product is untested, and given Nyko's track record, I would wait for people test it out. The biggest concern I would have is that the extra fan on the back could turbulence within the duct work, which can cause the air to not flow as well as it should. This is particularly true when the duct work opens up as it does. That opening up creates less air pressure in that part of the duct, which in itself causes the air to be pulled out naturally...even if the fan isn't running at all(Think of if you've ever smoked in a car, the smoke naturally goes out the window). Anyhow, when you start pulling air from a low pressure when it's already being pushed out from the source, it's causes the air to bounce around where it shouldn't, and that bouncing could inadvertently be directed back into the system itself. It's a form of wind sheer. Not saying this will happen, but better to let others test it IMO. There is quite a bit of information about how to set up air flow for PC cases for anyone who wants more information about the things that can happen with improper air flow set up.
I slapped a Nikko inter cooler on my xbox 360 and it melted the power supply. I'm definetly hesitant to add third party hardware like this to my ps4
more often than not they blow hot air back into the console lol... or have no effect at all. The internal fans still need to get the hot air out of the console these have no effect t all on tht and that's the important thing.
Does anybody remembers when the same product was melting 360 power outlets ?
One of the biggest difference between the Xbox & Playstation consoles has been that Microsoft has relied on power bricks whereas Sony has everything in the unit itself. I see this being a big part of what may have led to that situation.
What I'm looking for before dishing out the money is a statement from Sony about whether or not attaching this to the PS4 voids the warranty.
Better question is why you would think you need one in the first place? Sony designed the PS4 to work without overheating, you're not going to overheat it unless you're playing in extreme ambient temperatures, in which case this still won't work. It's a waste of cash, that's better spent on games.
You probably dont need it , and it's unlicensed . I dunno why you need a statement from Sony , that alone should speak volumes when you read the warranty . "any issue with your system that was caused by neglect, unlicensed product use, physical abuse, accident, and/or excessive wear and tear, will not qualify the product for in-warranty service."
Here's a better way to spend your 20 dollars. http://www.ikea.com/us/en/c... Set this table next to your entertainment center/TV stand or do what I did and buy a 25FT HDMI cable, run it across a living room floor, and place the 10 dollar table next to your couch. The only things that should be on that table are the PlayStation console and something small like a reading lamp. All the PS4 needs is to have the top and sides unobstructed to allow air to flow freely through the console. If you feel the need to waste 20 bucks, that's your constitutional right to do so.
because it gives them $$$$ these things are not necessary.
Pushing more air through a closed circulatory system strikes me as crazy. Imagine putting fans on top of your inlet and exhaust fans on your pc.. Totally silly. Nobody stacks fans like that as its a terrible way to increase airflow and if anything risks putting further strain on the internal fans which are trying to pull air in at variable speeds, not whatever speed these stupid plugin fans are operating at.
Absolutely right. There is a need for air flow, and an intake and an outtake fan can be useful when the system isn't set up with duct work or heat pipes to move the heat to the proper places. But with a duct system it's better to let the manufacturer decide the amount of air flow needed. Generally more air is never bad, but since disrupting the natural flow of air within a closed system can cause the air to bounce around within that system, it can actually have an opposite effect. If people are that concerned about heat getting out, they should realize that the heat will get out regardless. The system was just designed that way. The bigger concern is making sure that the ambient air temp isn't increased around the system so much by keeping the exhausted air moving away from the system. A simple PC fan anywhere within it's enclosure space should do just fine with today's electronics unless you have a high performance PC enclosed in the same space. Otherwise, most electronics nowadays have a wide enough range to work in rather warm conditions.
Yeah there's been loads of overheating problems so far??? Think I'll pass on this.
Intercoolers are never needed.
I'm sure both Xbox one and Ps4 have fans that adjust if more cooling is required.
instead of some guy trying to sell the product explaining how it works how about the actual guys that designed this piece come out and explain It's always some corporate idiot getting paid the big bucks explaining what some real worker did in his own words.
The PS4's fan is quite loud, which means it must be working pretty hard.
Its louder but its also cooler than the X1 and ps3 while gaming. So theres nothing wrong about that.
I just hope my PS4 won't die. If it will help to buy one of these I will, but I haven't seen hard data showing they work. My PS3 after a while started getting graphical artifacts due to overheating.
What's with the disagrees? Everything I said is 100% true. After a year and a half my 80gb PS3 started showing graphical artifacts and this is caused by overheating. I simply don't want this to happen to my PS4. If there is something that can reliably prevent that I would definitely invest in that to protect my system. But I'm not aware of any tests that show whether these coolers do any good.
The PS4 can do no wrong on this site. It's not you its them.
If you still have the PS3, then I would recommend opening it up, cleaning it out, and replacing the thermal paste on the processor(lots of good youtubes on how to do it if you don't know...be sure to follow their advice and not overuse the paste). Quite a few PS3's had really crappy thermal paste, and sometimes it wasn't applied sufficiently, and it often dried and cracked. While it's open, if you still have it and want to keep using it, it might be worth looking into a new fan as well, particularly if you have one of the pre-slim versions. They're much quieter, and depending on which model you have, you could have a system with the wrong kind of fan which caused air flow problems. Ironically, those with the wrong fan were the ones most hurt by the Nyko Inter-cooler for the PS3 as they only pulled in heat instead of pulling it out.
These things are useless and poor quality anyway. The ps4 was designed to keep its self cooled without it, its just a waste of money for hypocondriacs.
after my fat $599 PS3 died i learned my lesson My PS3 slim and PS3 run smoothly with a usb fan on the back that takes out a lot of heat, i was amazed to see how much heat was being left inside by the factory ventilation
The original phat had a design flaw where the intake in the front of the case couldn't pull in the air properly because it was such a small space, and due to the slight lift of the PS3 the hot air pushed out the back got sucked under it and back into the system. I found putting a USB fan on the side of the original phat PS3 actually pushed a lot of heat out. The back didn't have a lot of space to attach one unfortunately.
WHAT?! Nyko says you should use Nyko product! News worthy news thats worthy for newsiness!
I had a cooler once..and it killed my xbox
AKA This is why you should give us money.
Who are these people that buy into this bullshit???
ps4 does seem to get hot, the air coming from the back is piping hot at times and it's worrying that the heat is heating up the power cable at the back I currently rest my ps4 on a nifty looking laptop cooler, whether it does anything I'm not sure
you do know that the air coming out of the back is the air that's being pumped *out* of the system, right?
That air is supposed to be hot. If it's hot behind the PS4 then that's good. PC chips nowadays run really hot, so no need for concern. All an auxiliary fan will do is push the hot air away from the system, which would be only necessary if the intake and exhaust where in the same area...which they aren't.
Rather mod my Ps4 with Liquid cooling using Liquid Nitrogen.....only if had the time, parts and proper know how...and course the $$$...
I don't remember buying a Nyko product for any system other my GameBoy Color back in the 90s, but really, the PS4 doesn't need one of these.
a cooler for a game boy? whaaat:D
A cheap link cable.
BREAKING NEWS Nyko sales and marketing thinks you need their products.
So he's saying things to try to sell his product, like he would for any peripheral for any system, ok got it.
All these things do is take hot air exiting your system and blow that hot air back in your console. If anything it ruins the console.
They just want to ride the success of ps4. I play a lot with the ps4 is always cold, if you think the bluray player does not work while playing unlike ps3 / x360 heats less. Ps4 no need it.