Remember Sony's Walkman brand? It used to be synonymous with portable music players until Apple's iPod wiped the floor with it, yet it's Sony that's come out on top of a recent survey on brand innovation.
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Yes, Sony shares alot with Apple but it needs to develop a universal Operating System - like Apple have done with Mac OsX - which can be uses on most if not all of its hardware. Then Microsoft and Apple will tremble in fear as Sony becomes a major Software(PCs in particular) manufacturer.
When was the last time they innovated in any business area other than in console gaming?
What are you suggesting they innovated in the console market?
Microsoft has always just been doing what has been done. They just usually do it a lot more approachable. Of course I'm not implying that it's wrong or wutnot. It's just their way of doing business and it obviously works.
you are blinded by anti-microsoft sentiments... you wouldn't be able to see areas where they innovate. but just to give you a few examples, XNA, Visual Studio, asp.net, robotic studio, ajax.net, etc... you anti-microsoft just repeat what others say... when you say microsoft copied this and that... but lack the understand and technical knowledge to even understand what you are talking about... let me give you an very detailed example.... .net Generics... crazy innovation that enable programming languages like C# or vb.net to do things that weren't possible before.. how about silverlight? how about F#? dumb sony leg humpers... what monkey see monkey do... how can you possibly know in what areas microsoft innovates if you lack the knowledge and understanding? You only see at the product level... you see Windows Vista or OSX... you see PS3 or xbox 360... but you don't see or understand down to the metal to understand what you are talking about... so don't talk about innovation 95% or more of the people talking $h!t are just repeating what their anti-microsoft linux buddy that just learn how to swap their ram tell them... I welcome any of you losers to have an intelligent conversation about the contributions of each of these companies... that goes beyond box, color or name of the products....
the made people pay to play online and it works! that's a hell of innovation!
Amen, Bladestar. I made a comment about Sony and Microsoft developing and innovating in different areas of technology, and that often they had to use each other's tech in some way. Specifically, I said that Sony developed Blu-ray, but also uses VC-1 as one of it's supported codecs. Well, needless to say, ignorant fanboys nailed lit it up with disagrees and the like. Even one of the big contributors here dug in, acting like he knew what he was talking about. He didn't like me setting him straight. LOL
@2.1 - good one but seriously this list should be changed, why in the hell is Dell up there? and what if apple made a console, would you buy it? at least you could sync your ipod to any game, lol
Why is Nintendo at 7th. They're a lot more innovative than most of the companies above them.
..what exactly have they innovated lately? A wii-mote? Sure they came out with it first and had a great idea they implemented (that is eyt to show it's better or on par with a control pad or even K/M) but the technology for the thing is last gen. The wii-mote could be done in the PS2 or Xbox. This gen, every single thing Nintendo has done could have been done on last gen machines. Not one single game this gen displays attributes that could never have been accomplished with last gen hardware. My opinion, Nintendo are takin the core gaming community as a joke and laughing at us.
and wii balance board? a dual sceen touch screen handheld too. once again being copied. everything nintendo does gets copied yet they arent innovative?
Hmmm.... I don't think MS ever innovated anything. Zune copies Ipod, Vista copied Mac OS X I believe... And what they haven't blatantly copied they just outright bought.
some companies do come very close.VERY CLOSE.but,it's about brand awareness and what company just does more in innovation in many areas. apple does ipods and computers.and the software to run them...not enough. car companies like honda make cars,motorcycles and...ROBOTS....not enough. nintendo makes consoles and portables...not enough. ebay,amazon,google....great online sites....but not enough. sony is the only one that makes... computers,tvs,consoles,portab les,home entertainment systems like dvd and bluray,speakers,walkmans,mp3 players,advanced chips,monitors, digital cameras,cellphones,GPS,etc,etc ,etc.......and ROBOTS. and they are successful at....."EACH" thing they do.even if things like beta were failures,it still was considered better than the competition's product and widely used at television stations.and UMD was never,EVER,a replacement to dvd(name a company that made a home UMD player),but to be used for psp. good job sony!brand awareness.great products. apocalypse..............
yamaha. they make everything from motocycles to cell phones to instruments. Or LG, they make from TV and computer monitors, to washing machines and refridgerators. It's not about hardware, it's about the RnD these companies are doing.
That's where Sony needs to focus. In particular Operating systems for the PC. If Sony can develop an Operating System(Unix or Linux based like Mac OSX) that can work on both the Playstations and PCs then they would have just created a new cash cow. Sony could potentially have a 100 million Ps3 owners by the end of this generation which would mean they could test a Sony OS on the Ps3. Once poople get a taste of this OS and discover you can also get it on the PC then caaaching $$$$$$ BTW: Microsoft is primarily a Software company so of course it's innovations revolve around software.
I'd like to add (if but aside the point abit), i have sony's video walkman and its incredible. And also voted a better product then ipods! And that survey was voted on by...*drum roll* the public! Much better sound quality then an ipod, better battery life, supports multiple music formats, and it has a cool sound effect option which makes the music sound like its playing live, or in a stadium or something. I love my walkman, and im glad i didn't follow the crowd with the ipod. There's often some sense in sticking with sony.
tell that to my brother's 50' 1080p Bravia with 120Hz refresh rate. Or my PSP which can do everything an iPod (and even iPhone if you use Skype) does but plays games as well. I could go on to the stuff that Apple doesn't even make that Sony does, but I'll stop there.
In what way? Apple has a great OS but in terms of hardware Viaos are better than macs. Sony's walkman are better than ipods. Other than that apple doesnt have anything while Sony makes tons of reliable hardware , Releases Movies, Music, Video Games and on top of all that they own 50 percent of Game Show Network. I mean Game Show Newtork is a great channel you cant argue that.
Useless if you have great hardware without software (OS).. PSP is bigger than the ipod.. can't put it in your pocket... I would carry ipod around.. if I go on the long trip... I carry both.. but not when I go to work.. just ipod for me..
APPLE is up there well when you look at it, but they never created MP3 players anyhow.. What do we call innovation cause a lot of these companies improved someone else's idea. Sony is the innovator here when they introduced the walkman and CD players and was the biggest player in music devices now they have fallen. I bit too late with minidisc and MP3 just took over, now they are not a major play in music devices.
apple just copied the ipod form creative labs... But they're on there because of the iphone.
I have an 8 gig Iphone and although i really do like it. I still use my sony mp3 player because of the superior sound.
Guys, if you look at one of the classic definitions of innovation you will find "the process of making improvements by introducing something new;the act of introducing something new: something newly introduced." If you look at the first part innovation can be interpreted as taking something already out there and just making something new to add to it and improve it.Yes it might be a stretch, but I believe Apple does a great job will innovation. Just the designs of their computers is a great example, and OSX is an incredible operating system with plenty of innovative features. Sony does have a lot of products but recently their only true innovation was blue-ray, not saying it was a bad one though ; ) But I guess you can't just look at this from a gaming side of things or even just mp3 players.
Dark Sniper agrees wholeheartedly with this article. Sony are true pioneers of electronics. They have always sucessfully made top of the line products ranging from Xplod car audio, Bravia televisions and of cours PLAYSTATION®3. Dark Sniper is proud to be affiliated with the absolute best that electronics has to offer. Sony will always be the innovators and creators that other companies try to follow. $niper
Sony/Apple leading the Charge, M$ copies and follows like always.
but it doesn't mean that the $ony slug can spell
people forget that MS and Sony are much bigger then the sum of their parts. They do RnD like surface, or oleds etc. for example. http://www.n4g.com/industry... http://research.microsoft.c... what some people fail to realize is that, like how sony co-developed the cell with ibm, MS co-developed the xenon in the 360, and that became the basis for current ATI cards.
That uses holograms or should I say holographics like they did with that new Lochness in Tokyo thats innovative after all watching games on TV is just getting tiring fufotrufo you mean to say Sony>Apple
as i said.some came close.but sony wins on brand awareness and more products that are KNOWN. no one knows about musical instruments and washing machines.you just made my point even more clear. sony does more and people are more AWARE of their products. how many people do you think are AWARE about sony cameras and not AWARE about some REFRIDGERATORS?come on man...think...... apocalypse........
so you're talking about awareness eh? lets play a game of whats more popular. blackberry or ericson? ipod or walkman? macbook or vaio? wii or ps3? cannon, kodak both have higher-end and much better camera's their name is just as noteworthy. panasonic or samsung have tv's that are just as good. boss is much better name for stereo's. brand name is important, but awareness doen't ensure innovation. This article is about Research and Development, nothing more. Oled TV's, surface, wimax, etc.
on the awareness part look at the brand names. Sony is no longer a powerhouse
Sony deserves the innovation #1 spot. They have invented more tech than anybody else. Some of that tech may have been co-founded, but at least they are trying and not just ripping someone elses ideas. Not to say that they haven't done their share of that. I had forgotten that they were behind the CD and CD players, totally forgot.
Sony TV's man, nuff said. I urge everyone, fans and haters alike, go to the Sony Building in Tokyo. It changes lives. I went inside with my friend who was a 3rd60 owner, when we left the building he told me he was going to buy a PS3. 2 weeks later he bought his PS3.
Wow, this list is a failure. Apple made computers mainstream in the 80s. Microsoft just improves upon existing technologies. And Sony is just a greedy company that thinks they own all of consumer electronics. This is based on consumers. Consumers see Windows and they see PS2. They do not realize that these were just improvements on existing tech. Its like how people think Band-aid created bandages but don't realize they had been around for years. EDIT: Funny how the companies with the most advertising are on top?
Sony is the biggest innovator out there. Sometimes they fail, but they innovate all the time. Their R&D is pretty damn impressive. Apple did make pc's fairly accessible in the 80's. Who doesn't remember playing some oregon trail on a Apple II something?
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And rightfully so. Sony is making huge strides and it half-seems like they don't care about milking their consumers for all they're worth like Apple clearly does, but instead are highly interested in bringing forth great technology and progress. This is why I highly support PS3, even though I've never been a big Sony fan.
Should not be on the list for anything in the same sentence with innovation. EVERYTHING they do is just a build up off something else and they try to call their own or say we did what they did but better. They never create anything for themselves that you could say wow good thinking nice job. Reason why Vista takes so much heat because it was a copy off the Mac O/S and it had more problems and reason why 360 isnt going to last because they used a lot of last age technology instead of investing on new tech. The only thing I can give credit to MS for doing is pushing online gaming. Sony still needs to give us in-game chat.
Sony makes a gazzillion products. But Apple is a worthy competitor for innovation. :)
Google made the list? WTF? What do they innovate? And Nokia, when was the last time they innovated? That's one dodgy list...
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