GUG writer, Michael Morejon, talks about what video games Christians should play.
What do you guys think?
Dante's Inferno would be a game for Christians or any religious person I think. No other game comes to mind at the moment.
3 bubbles..... I'm impressed! Anxiously waiting for the sequel of Dantes inferno
No Man's Sky.
Well as a Christian I agree with him on some points. Some games that have violence for violence sake I tend to stay away from. The main example for me is gta, it's violence for violence sake. It's like some movies that curse just to curse without adding to the story they're trying to tell. I love a good story but don't like when it's watered down by shock value. The one thing I will argue however is he mentions war movies violence most of the time is justified given the subject and historical aspect of it then argues against call of duty. That seems odd. I enjoy my games like halo that do have violence and language but it's part of the story and also agree, using gta as an example that violence for violence sake is a turn off for me.
God of War
The only thing that really bothers me, is when certain games (*cough* JRPGs *cough*) are on the wrong side. A.K.A. "Kill God, cause he's evil".
What games have those themes?
Shadow Hearts, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Final Fantasy 13-3 (Lightning Returns) immediately come to mind. In the case of Shadow Hearts, and FF13-3, they even pretend it's the real God. In Xenoblade, it's more of a "We hate all gods! We can do it ourselves!" I've also recently heard that at least one of the Shin Megami Tensei/Persona games does this; which isn't surprising, considering the whole demon thing in the games.
Most those arent on the wrong side imo . If anything , most of those games are about rebelling against some omnipotent alien force that pretend to be gods and usurp their authority . Hell i've seen people get riled up over Final Fantasy Tactics , and the way they made an analogy to Jesus and its apostles , with St Ajora , the revered fictional saint of the Ivalice universe . Of course it turns out Ajora was just a crazed warrior , spy , evil schemer and a deceiver creating a cult and church loosely similar to what you can see in christianity ... but that's just it , it's a fiction . As a christian i accept it as a work of fiction and dont take umbrage of it , nor do it mistake it for something else . Why would i be pissed at some proven fake messiah from a game ? With christianity a thing of mostly foreign culture to most of asia , it's not even usually done to spite it . I've had discussion with manga and game artists or writers that of their own admission just use angel , demon and western gods imagery because it feels and looks cool from an art perspective . And of course thye do feel they can write fiction over a subject that isnt part of their culture and system belief . Just like christian devs are very comfortable using greek/roman and norse myths in ames and fiction without blasphematory intent toward the few still seeing those not as myths , but proper religions
@Baka-akaB: Even when they're making a statement by saying that that "proven fake messiah from a game" is the real-world God? You have no problem with that? At that point, it's a direct assault on GOD, not some fictional character in a game.
" when they're making a statement by saying that that "proven fake messiah from a game" is the real-world God" Ridiculous imo . Even in such case , when it is in fact the god creator , that assessment only work when admitting that somehow a virtual world from the game is the same as ours . And in the example i gave anyway , it's made clear Ajora is an impostor . And in stuff like Xenogears , Deus is a powerful interplanetary invasion system that crashed onto the planet ten thousand years before the game's story begins It then pretends to be god , manupulate events and mankind , and get followers . In shadow hearts ? A summoned an alien life-form I should even bother going down a list and that path . Even accepting that flawed logic imo ..is our god the kind that would enslave mankind into pur despair and darkness , especially systematically and with sheer cruelty , like all of those videogames gods ? i dont think so
"is our god the kind that would enslave mankind into pur despair and darkness , like all of those videogames gods ? i dont think so" Of course not. My problem is when the games depict him as such. I strongly believe God also has a problem with that. I'd be shocked if he didn't. Remember, it's not just about how it affects YOU. You're supporting a game that is pushing others away from God. Other people's perception of God can be swayed by this sort of thing.
There lies the difference between us ... you take it as his own depiction . I dont . Especially when most times it is clearly established those characters are impostors I suppose that when you watch a movie , you dont believe the depicted character to be an accurate or similar version of even someone that exists or existed . It's a fiction , however close or not it tries to be " You're supporting a game that is pushing others away from God." No i'm not . It's not even worth going into it further it seems . We wont agree either way EDIT : Anyway my point wasnt so much to confront anyone , but to make something clear , given how christians are ridiculed these days (or in a few extreme cases ridiculing themselves , as seen with the Westboro Baptist movement) . Clearly not all of us have theologically based issues with part of gaming or even any games , as i'm showing now .
Hi, I'm Michael who wrote the above article, and yeah, I agree with you. They have this thing with killing God for some reason...like in Grandia 2, or now in Xillia in a way (no spoilers, play the game you'll understand what I mean).
What Would Jesus Play?
Mario Kart. Only Mario Kart.
im pretty sure even JC would think the blue shell is bull**** lol!
I think they would love fantasy games or any games about fairy tales.
Quite frankly, it depends on each individual, and their comfort level with any given genre or specific game. Anyone could suggest or outline criteria that inform the choices that work for them, which don't necessarily work for another "christian". There is no one size fits all answer.
I believe in God and I'm playing Diablo 3 right now. I don't see the problem to be honest. It's just a game and there are much worse things that you can do in real life. As kids we all played war so why not play Battlefield when we grow up?
It all depends on the individual and how your led by God. Example, some people cannot stand to see blood and it freaks them out, but others can be doctors and see blood, open heart surgery etc. and it's all good. Not a gaming example, but yeah, it all depends on the individual which is why I'm glad to see so many different opinions here.
You beat to that one incendy.... Religion is based on fairy tales , but hey if you want to believe in an invisible man /woman/ goat/ weird elephant type person in the sky that's up to you!
There is no such thing as a game i shouldnt play . I'm chistian and i'm comfortable playing every game . I could as easily play a game were Satan is the hero ... it's a work of fiction , and i dont idolize" it , as gaming's detractors love to say . There are always been niche of zealous and religious people of all horizons , constantly accusing any form of entertainement , from book to music , to movies to games , from being idolatry and wrong . It's their prerogative , not mine nor most sane people , devout or otherwise
"I could as easily play a game were Satan is the hero ... it's a work of fiction , and i dont idolize it" Uh...You really think God would be okay with that? I think you're lying to yourself.
No i'm not lying to myself, unless i'm stupid enough to think that the real Satan would be good like in the game . They both might bear the same name , but wouldnt be the same think either way . i'm quite at peace with it , and god would be too i think . It's the humans that project silly insecurities on stuff like that
Well I'm a Christian and The Last of Us is the best game I've played in 25 years of gaming. I only lean towards Mature games. The only E rated game I own is Portal 2. I look at gaming as I do music and movies. Marilyn Manson has been one of my top favorite musicians since 1996. Meaning if it's good then it's good. Plus I'm against censorship and believe people should do what makes them happy. I don't believe in judging people for any reason.
They should play what they want. That is, whatever they feel comfortable with.
Grand theft auto. Yes definitely that.
If you are so religious it effects what games you play, stop playing games because it is taking time away from you praying and shit. Or play a game where you get to kill Muslims, be a racist and not believe in science.
Dante's Inferno, that should should be right up their alley.
LOL, I'm picturing this like mormon or christian riding up to me on their bike and being like; "Hey mister.. can I have a few moments of your time? Do you have any game recommendations for christians?" And I'm like; "Well I'm one of /them/ gays, so yea, I recommend you start with Lollipop Chainsaw, Bayonetta and Binding of Issac. ~Then he/she quickly scuttles off, terrified because: homophobia.
You must not have met many Christians.
The same as everyone else? I mean, if a game offends your Christian sensibilities, you either don't understand your religion at all or you're putting words into your God's mouth. At what point exactly did your Yahweh say "thou shalt not channel your aggression into a harmless, and ultimately meaningless pastime". He didn't, because he's God, not the thought police.
What the article is meant to say is to help out Christians who have issues playing video games. Not the contrary, which is what your saying "don't play games at all". I want Christians at large to be comfortable playing games, because they are fun and we can even learn a lot from them (aside from being entertaining). Many Christians actually are offended and think games are like other media forms, "from the devil" so they avoid them. I'm glad to see your opinion though, it opens up a lot of conversations and shows a need for an article like this.
I get your point and respect it. I hope for more intelligent conversation these topics, rather than the simple shut-down promoted by fundamentalist types. It is my view that a Christian should be more concerned with his or her actions toward others, not the entertainment they consume. I believe that if someone's faith is strong enough, no content, no matter how un-christian in its leanings should be uncomfortable. That said, I cannot speak for all Christians, nor would I want to. Keep the rational debate coming though, and I see no issue.
A good idea for their demographic but poor research, writing, and can hurt the perception of Christian game media if it gets a lot of exposure.
God was playing Oblivion on The Simpsons Game.
Games are works of fiction. They are not real. Unless you're a fundamentalist Christian/Muslim/Jew, I don't understand why your religion should prevent you from enjoying most games. Imo, those who believe that religious texts like the Bible are literally the word of God, rather than inspired by the word of God, have a fundamental inability to distinguish fact from myth and fiction. The fundamentalist world, imo, is very small and lacks wonder
any religious person can refrain from playing any game they want... but when they try saying I cant, or try censoring games, or try getting games banned, THATS when theres a problem. Freedom of religion also includes my freedom from yours. if you don't like dantes inferno, or GTA, or lolipop freaking chainsaw, fine. stay over there and let me get my platnium on all 3. believe what you'd like, but dont infringe on my right to play immature, violent, disgusting games... thats what freedom is, right? LOL! "your right to swing your fist ends at my face."
They shouldn't play games at all because clearly if they believe in religion they have no concept of reality. What a stupid post *smh*
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