It seems like Microsoft have already lost the next-gen battle against Sony in Japan.
Ouch.....but Xbox never does well in Japan. This was expected...imo Even if the x1 was a stronger cheaper console that came with a free exclusive monster hunter game called monster hunter Xplosion hyper megaplex dragonpunch 6: pandas rather. It would still sell less than ps4
I don't understand your disagrees because that's a fact, when Xbox and Xbox 360 was a success in Japan? Japanese gamers nowadays care for IOS (sad, but true), also Sony and Nintendo platforms.
His disagrees are because of people's dislike of the situation, not because they think @Kingthrash360 is incorrect (he is correct, as you pointed out). But like you said, Japan never fully embraced the Xbox Brand. And combine that with the fact that Japanese are moving more toward handhelds and mobile gaming, the Xbox was probably never going to out sell Sony or Nintendo's home consoles.
Well his statement starts with a fact. Yes it has never done well. Then he follows with an opinion on wether it was expected. That's to the person talking. Then he follows with a theory based on a game that doesn't exist and has a made up flamboyant title to try to add humor to his theory. The last 2 parts are open to disagrees. I don't disagree. Just getting tired of people on n4g say "why did I/you get disagrees," when it is loaded with opinions and hyperbole.
I have been to Osaka this summer and I have been to Yodobashi Umeda (a VERY big electronics store). They advertise the Xbox one big time there. Multiple Xboxes where you can play/test games and employees demoing the Xbox. MS puts a lot of effort into selling the Xbox to japanese gamers. The sales put these efforts to shame though. Japanese customers rely heavily on japanese products. A healthy stance I think.
their called bots,they cant even think for themselves.
Let's see if the six new internal studios show up at TGS. Even despite poor sales Microsoft can throw money around. If I can get a "Blue Dragon" or "Lost Odyssey" I will be happy.
It's not that Japanese people despise non Japanese products. I would say that it's actually the opposite, since Japanese people just appreciate quality. It's just that xbox, as a brand, doesn't have games that appeals to Japanese gamers. That's the same reason why PS Vita is successful in Japan while struggles to find itself a market in Europe/US. The number of games they have for that console here is crazy high.
Yep. Xbox is practically dead in Japan... and Microsoft ignoring TGS won't help. Microsoft needs a few JRPG's to increase their sales over there.
What makes you think they are ignoring it? Last I checked they just weren't having a keynote. Still have a large chunk of floor space. And to boot their former conference is now a 24hr livestream tailored to the Japanese audience. If anything you could say they are focusing on it more than Sony. Idk what Nintendo's plans are but considering they did the same thing at e3 that MS is trying to replicate, I'm assuming they are doing something similar
MS doesn't even know what JRPG means yet.
Actually the original xbox sold very well at the beginning. Microsoft did something wrong that the Japanese people is not forgiving.
7 years later and the 360 only hit 1.6 million in japan .the wiiu passed it already
I remember that when the original Xbox came out there were reported issues with disc drives in Japan, it was even on the news here in the UK at the time, that kind of thing can permanently damage a new brand in Japan. They'll often give foreign brands and companies a chance but if they put a foot wrong at the beginning that's pretty much it forever. It's true that Xbox has never had a good line up of Japan centric titles but I think the seed was sewn when they had the issues at launch in the early 2000's. Sales didn't pick up and so devs weren't enticed to develop for that platform or the 360 and it will likely be the same for the One. It's a cycle that Microsoft will always find very difficult to break.
If they had an exclusive MH game, it would fly off the shelves. They're not hating on the XB1 because they hate America. They love everything about american culture. Music, movies, clothes, food, entertainment, etc...
One thing they don't like at all are big consoles. Typical Japanese rooms and homes aren't that big. So with a big box like the X1 aren't helping their decisions to buy one in the first place.
Monster Hunter isn't as big on consoles as it is on handhelds. The best selling entry on PSP sold 4.5 million units in Japan. The best selling entry on any home console in Japan sold just under one million.
They need a Monster Hunter Clone EXCLUSIVE to Xbox One & Japan, and THAT + a XB1 Pokemon type game would start the sales, and get things going.
Sony isn't doing that great in Japan either. Nintendo are killing them there.
Ah, Japan has been a problem for MS. Meanwhile, Japanese devs are pushing for western appeal more and more. Now with China I hope MS can just drop Japan completely. The games coming out of Japan are niche to their market and the bigger ones have a western publisher. I don't think it is as important as it used to be to be connected with Japan. The industry has moved well beyond what it used to be with the most successful studios now western. MS sales and marketing will still continue to try I suppose.
That would be awesome and super cool.
i agree a lot of japan titles are ninch. the only games that seem to have mild success here is square enix. i dont even know how all this will even help the ps4 sell. all those titles announced didn't exactly have killer software sales. microsoft should srsly put double the effort in china because that market has way better potential. and it seems like they're doing just that. they just need to allow cross platform play to port over FF14 to china.
The word I think you're looking for is "niche".
They were topping charts when preorders opened up, better then infamous ss did on a preorder basis http://n4g.com/news/1536245... And the day one edition sold out all over the place in the first day of pre-orders http://segmentnext.com/2014... They said infamous ss sold 35k in the first week and never came close to number one, so I guess next Wednesday when the media create charts come out we will see how it does
I wouldn't believe that whole sold out of day one editions. Ms said the same thing about the country that I live in and for months after release you could still buy the day one editions.
What if they do even worse in China though? Don't think you can bank everything on an unknown.
Correction. No Red Dead Redemption Remake For PS4/Xbox One that Shinobi602 knows about.
They probably bring the sequel instead. ^^
PS4 isn't doing well in Japan either
If the PS4 isn't doing well in Japan then what does that say for the Xone :/.
its Xboned... ill see myself out
Dead on Arrival
Which means what for Xbox? Furthering that, do you remember PS4's launch numbers? Right, the X1 won't get anywhere close, so bringing up PS4 is grasping at best. TGS, on the other hand, shows 2014 PS4's JP sales will soon be a distant memory.
The funny thing is that the Monday conference wasn't even anything to do with TGS. Sony's true pre-TGS conference happens on the 17th of this month and Sony have already said they've got plenty more to show off. Considering the SCEJ event on Monday was all basically geared towards 2nd and 3rd party offerings in Japan Sony must be holding back some pretty stellar announcements for their proper TGS conference. Forgetting the obligatory Last Guardian speculation GT7 is probably a pretty likely bet, Dark Chronicle was re-trademarked earlier this year too, Japan Studio being the biggest that Sony has can easily have multiple games in the works, with one or two ready to show off. There's always a chance that Media Molecule and Guerrilla Games or any of Sony's other western studios could drop their new IP announcements. If Quantic Dream has been working on something based around their Kara demo, but made into a new kind of game, with the Singularity name that was trademarked before PS4's announcement I can see that suiting the Japanese market quite well. So much potential it's really hard to contain my excitement. I definitely agree that sales of PS4 are going to take a big spike once the Japanese focused exclusive titles start to drop.
PS4 first week sales > Xbox One first year. (Japan)
Sounds pretty likely too me. Going by VGchartz numbers PS4 sold 319K in it's first week over there, 360 was at 229K by the end of it's 1st year, I recon XB1 will be lucky to do 250K-300K in it's 1st year in Japan. I guess we'll see though.
MS shouldn't waste there time over there. Its just a waste of money and most importantly, time. They have Scale Bound they could of shown off but it needs to be more than 1 game it needs to be many like 4 or 5 new Japanese games for MS. Its a lost cause but knowing Phil, he'll try anyway.
They can't really ignore the market. They need Japanese developer support, which is their biggest reason for releasing over there regardless of how much it sells. Obviously they would want to sell a lot over there, but it's more about maintaining support.
It's been said many times. Xbox is dead in Japan. No fanboy talk, it's true.
No Red-Dead remake? Worse news for me this year!!!
and this is a surprise to.....no one.
Microsoft just skip Japan already.
It doesn't help that they have no TGS show or anything.
Yep no TGS show. Not giving Japanese any incentive besides a party. X1 is doing worse than 360 and it hasn't even released yet over there.
They've got one. It's in the "Nintendo Direct" format, which was arguably one of the best "conferences" out of E3 this year. If that is them "hav[ing] no TGS show" then I guess you're right... Much like Nintendo didn't have an E3 show.
That's what proves that even Microsoft has given up. There's just no way the Xbone will ever be popular there. It's struggling bad enough worldwide already.
I recall reading articles how xbox had all this Japanese dev support. |Not 1 game was shown. Any time i read xbox news i take with a grain salt now. So many lies.
One thing I've learned about Microsoft over the years is that unlike every other company not even just in gaming they have no fight. They just don't have the ability to create for themselves or innovate. The only way they know how to win is by buying off other property's just like they did with Tomb Raider and every other timed exclusive they have. And when they don't have an answer to an obvious problem ( like support in Japan ) they just go silent and pretend like everything is fine. Just like like with XOne's sales figures, last we heard was 5 million shipped almost 5 months ago. That does not instill much confidence. Microsoft would do so much better if they would just be honest. They need to realize this is the social media generation where information is spread rapidly like wildfire, not the 1980's or 70's where communication was limited. They need to realize people aren't ignorant to what's going on and them trying to cover things up only makes matters worse.
Why would people want a remake at this point? Just make a sequel.
So, Japanese support their Consoles... Sony and Nintendo, Otherwise in the US, citizens Doesn't Support MS? in financials and culture, thats a big problem for your country US
Why would I support a company just because it originated in my country? I might support local companies instead of big chains to give small businesses a go, but that's about as far as I'd go. Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung and more? Their country of origin really has absolutely no bearing on their business model. And supporting them just because they originated in your country is a pretty sorry reason to support them considering you nor your country gain nothing from it. I mean, you do realize that retailers who sell stuff make money no matter the origin of the product, people are employed to sell them no matter the origin, and all of these people produce/manufacture the products outside of the country, right? In the end, support what is best for you. That's it.
No, most Americans want good $#!+ for their money. That is why we buy Japanese cars, electronics, consoles, etc. Most know that most big corporations are multinational and don't give a crap about people in their native country and many are politician bribing tax dodgers anyway.
http://dwpsi4n449r1u.cloudf... Microsoft needs to change the way it does business. Smoke and mirrors isn't going to cut it in the information age.
Anyone have an idea of how the Xbox One will perform in China? If this rumor is accurate the console could very well flop in the East.
Not sure if this matters in the overall preorders, but Microsoft has two Xbox One SKUs in the top 20 in Japan right now. http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/...
There are only 5 Xbone items in the top 100 on amazon Japan. Destiny bundle is also higher than both of those Xbone sku's. Literally 95% of the top 100 are Sony and Nintendo products. Only days away and 5 products in top 100 isn't exactly amazing.
Microsoft is going to have a launch party in Japan soon and they confirm that they are having a inside conference for the gaming media and also they gonna have various famous Japanese developer's to talk about the games that are coming to Xbox one Microsoft Phil Spencer said that they already have 50 Japanese developers studios working on Xbox one and including some Japanese indie games. And I know that for Xbox is being rough to get in Japan but I think Microsoft are trying harder than ever before to win the Japanese gamers and I hope they do well in Japan on Xbox one. And to finish I hope some people here instead of trolling Xbox they should supported after all is an American company if we support Sony and Nintendo here in America why not supporting Xbox and teach the Japanese gamers do the same with our American company we do with there's company.
Wow. What's with all the jingoism today? I'm pretty sure we're all just supporting China, anyway. You know, that place these consoles are all manufactured on the cheap, while the corporations bank the profits of exporting labor overseas, while expecting us all to support them on the basis of their headquarters location. Patriotism is something only the working class is expected to practice.
I call more microsoft BS ! If they have 50 Japanese devs working on xbox they would not have skipped TGS.
I've never understood this argument. I guess because it's stupid. So of Microsoft was involved in all manner of shady business practices, I should pick them over a more honest company from, say, Belgium? Solely because they're from my country of birth? Eff that. I support companies I like that produce products I like. Where that company has its origins is irrelevant to me, and I can't figure out why it shouldn't be. As far as gaming is concerned, Japanese products have appealed to me more- and their makers have offended me less- than any American company since Atari. I don't think you people know what patriotism is. It's not supporting a country because it shares your nationality, though; I can assure you of that.
"Xbox One Pre-orders Pretty Much Don't Exist In Japan" I thought they were getting lots of preorders at first, now they don't have any?
No Red Dead Redemption Remaster is the sadder news here.
Sony fans need a good version of RDR as well. The ps3 version was utter garbage.
Um, no, it really wasn't. It was behind the 360 version (as many multiplats were), but it was anything but garbage. I'm guessing you think most X1 multiplats are garbage too?
RDR was a much poorer port of that game I thought. Rarely do I care or notice the differences but that game was pretty diff experience on both consoles. Actually I can barely notice a diff in this generation at this point. RDR was just one of the exceptions.
Your personal perception != the game was bad on PS3. And the differences this gen are not just graphical, but res AND frame-rate as well (some games as much as a 30fps difference). The point stands.
Japan consumers are a loyal bunch. They don't like American cars, and they obviously don't like an American console. I know the Xbox isn't manufactured here, but I would be willing to bet the PS4 isn't made in Japan.
'They don't like American cars.'. That's a pretty dumb, blanket, and inaccurate statement. Sure, you don't see many in comparison, but the competition from Japanese cars is strong. Why go out of your way to probably pay more, and have a headache getting to your dealer, when there are cheaper, easier alternatives? Do you drive a foreign car with a dealership miles away? I saw someone driving a Hummer just the other day. Then, a few weeks ago, I came across a Corvette owner's club, and one guy was driving a Pacer.
Lol Americans dont even like Americans cars. We drive Hondas Toyotas, mercedez, BMW.