Submitted by xHeavYx 307d ago | news

People Are Complaining About The Anime Schoolgirl Sony Used To Demo Its VR Headset

Sony has showcased a potentially controversial new game to show off the technology behind its new Project Morpehus virtual reality headset. (PS4, Summer Lesson)

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TimeSkipLuffy  +   308d ago
Sadly this is part of Japan's culture... and it is accepted as such... in Japan.
NewMonday  +   308d ago | Well said
so siting and talking with a virtual girl is controversial now?
TimeSkipLuffy  +   308d ago
The problem is that this girl is 14-16 and that is underage. The target audience will be middle aged who will play even more explicit games because they like to sleep with young schoolgirls. That sometimes include r**e and more other things.

It is because it does not stop there.
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jujubee88  +   308d ago

Ah, ok. I see why people would be upset. (Doesn't mean they are correct, but I at least understand). Personally, I don't think she is that young looking.

She looks 18, 19, 20 to me.
NewMonday  +   308d ago
maybe they should ban Teen Vogue and any show with a teenager in it then.

not every Japanese game with a girl is hentai, dating sims are popular in Japan and don't have sex in them, Person3/4 is part dating sim.
BitbyDeath  +   307d ago | Funny
America does not understand why no gun is displayed on screen. Just confusion is all.
Jughead3416  +   307d ago
I'd play it. lol.

Seriously, people need to get a life. Gaming is supposed to be fun. Stress reliever. People get way too serious over video games. Every form of entertainment has mature themes/audiences. Games aren't just for kids anymore.
This is the culture everywhere, I just think there is much more hypocrisy about it in the US.

Sex is life, people.
Reddzfoxx  +   307d ago
Feminists are okay with this stuff if it was made by a woman. But if its made by a man then they say it "wrongfully depicts women as sex objects".

This toxic nonsense is being spewed so certain feminists can fund their kickstarter campaigns.
johndoe11211  +   307d ago
the people complaining are from a western culture, they have no idea about the Japanese culture. The demo was for a Japanese audience. Don't expect westerners to understand that, we just love to force our way of thinking on the rest of the world (well, at least not all of us do).
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roboteye  +   307d ago

There was no age given to this character.
She can be 18+ and still be in high school.
Also I'd suggest you go to any porn sites and search for school girl. There you will find plenty of US school girl porn offerings.
Bimkoblerutso  +   307d ago
Sitting and talking with a REAL girl is apparently controversial now.

Haven't you heard? Men are all rapists.

Edit: and by god, I think it's really telling how out of control this is getting in the media now when there is a link to the Sarkeesian "Rape Threat" story at the bottom of the page, too.
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Redrum059  +   307d ago
People must not know about how small Japan's relationship with sex is when compared to the US. I live here in the US and everything is sex here, if you aren't having sex in America then ppl think there's something wrong with you. In Japan, adults will rent rooms in sex themed hotels (the few that there are) just to play card games n such. They aren't a sex driven ppl like Americans are.
badz149  +   307d ago

"The problem is that this girl is 14-16 and that is underage. The target audience will be middle aged who will play even more explicit games because they like to sleep with young schoolgirls. That sometimes include r**e and more other things.

It is because it does not stop there."

wait...wait...are you saying what I think you're saying? for you, it's wrong because adult will play the game? but you're totally OK with kids playing games with guns killing people like CoD, BF or play as psychopathic killer/driver in GTA? guns and driving are illegal for kids too, you know.

come on, this is just a game. are you one of those who are saying playing GTA makes someone a killer irl?
hkgamer  +   307d ago
well, it was the fact that the user was staring at certain locations which was controversial.

however its japan and they are a little freaky.


was the age ever specified? where did you get 14-16? im guessing more high school, so around 15-18. so if its 18 then theres nothing wrong in a sense. doesnt make it less weird though.
PSVita  +   307d ago

You remember milo???
SilentNegotiator  +   307d ago
You're clearly playing the role of a rapist.

UltraNova  +   307d ago
So what if it was a 14-15 year old school boy there instead? How would they spin it then?

Even mentioning these things are stupid enough. Its sad really, that everything is used to gain publicity. Nothing's sacred anymore, the common moral ground has collapsed in its entirety for the sake of publicity and whatever it entails for those who stand to profit from disgrace.
kparks  +   307d ago
16 is not underage they only need to be 18 if your gonna film it.... Grass on the field play ball!
extermin8or  +   307d ago
The clip they showed at the confrence didn't show sitting and talking it was somewhat suggestive, ofc this is accepted in japan and seen as ok. Personally I see it as a pervert simulator and as quite disturbing but...
abzdiine  +   307d ago
what's wrong if she's 16, 14 or even 80? it's all about people's intention.
You use VR to explore a world itøs free for you to look where you want, it just reflects the real world.

People who complain about this are the same ones who have no problem with jap porn cartoons.. girls look way younger over there.. hypocrits!
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andibandit  +   307d ago
Wish i'd gone to high school in Japan
DanteVFenris666  +   307d ago
Has no one here seen an animated between ages 15-40 they all look like there at their prime beauty. Just stop over complicating and stereotyping people. Japan has the best culture
DevilOgreFish  +   307d ago
I'll let the people who are willing to pay to play this, i just know i wouldn't. not because of lack of weapons, but more like i have the whole internet to explore for this specific subject.

I buy games that have story and enough potential to be on my shelf or hard drive. the game can have weapons or no weapons, but a story or a purpose is a must in my books.
TheRedButterfly  +   307d ago
You, I, and EVERYONE ELSE know that that isn't what's controversial about this demo.
frezhblunts  +   307d ago
Dude I run into kids on ps4 all the time more than my wii u weirdly. Kids now like all the action gory bloody games and get their hands on it like GTA5
kratoz1209  +   307d ago
She looks virtually legal ;)
poppinslops  +   307d ago
So it's okay?
I'm no feminist, but 'Men' like those above are part of a wider problem, and their comments are shameful... Saying it's cultural is a cheap excuse (One the Japanese seem less inclined to push, having FINALLY outlawed child porn)...

To those that built and endorse this crap... well, you're basically selling a peodophile simulator...
roboteye  +   307d ago

I agree. We should also stop selling any games with guns because they are murder simulators.
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jnemesh  +   307d ago
@poppinslops why won't anyone think of the virtual children!
johndoe11211  +   307d ago

I agree, we also need to start arresting and jailing all clothing company execs and employees who make bathing suits and bikinis for any females below the age of 17 because they are encouraging pedophilia.

Not to mention the creators of every anime ever made. Those bee@tche$ need to go down. Heck, and while we're at it we need to make it illegal for any male above the age of 18 to sit and talk to any female below the age of 17 who is not an immediate family member.

Heck, I'm voting for you next election.
MRMagoo123  +   307d ago
It's a game there is no legal age to have sex with a computer game. @poppin it's not paedophilia it's hebephilia the girl is obviously going or has gone thru puberty. Paedohilia is children below the age of puberty. Maybe if you whiteknight/feminists read more books you would not look so stupid
King_of_Nothing  +   307d ago
@poppinslops you forgot your fedora
bloodybutcher  +   307d ago
@poppinslops they should also ban donald duck cartoons, he is clearly running around with his underage nephews without pants
Killzoner99  +   307d ago
This is no different than bikini girls selling cars. I hate to break it to you but sex sells and Playstation is a mature brand so it is advertised to mature people. The PS4 is not a kids toy.
Sharky231  +   307d ago
People need to get over this. This tech demo will never see the light of day in North America or anywhere else for that matter. People pick the craziest stuff to get riled up about. It's not like half this stuff hadn't already been in a game in some form.
sonic989  +   307d ago
You know what is sad it will become a gay simulator when it comes to the west because that is more acceptable there.
Now please people leave your culture at your country and dont bother others with we couldnt care less what westerns think.
KwietStorm  +   307d ago
Ain't that the damn truth. And it will be heralded for it's heroic stance. A revolution.
sonic989  +   307d ago
Hahaaaa dude thats so true and disgusting too xd.
Bubbamilk  +   307d ago
Gay isn't acceptable in the states. The government just hangs it over our heads because being gay doesn't lose them money like legalizing marijuana and not invading countries for oil would.

With that said bring on the hype train for the gay simulator!!!!!
CoLD FiRE  +   307d ago
Didn't you know? Western values are the true values of humanity!

Dynasty2021  +   307d ago
The Japanese certainly aren't shy about "degrading" women publicly.

I was in Tokyo for 2 weeks in Dec last year, and was blown away at how many women outside stores were dressed in next to nothing, building-high ads of women in bras with big hair sucking lollipops.

Walk down the wrong street and there's massage and "happy ending" places everywhere.
Gh05t  +   307d ago
Yeah but the second you tell women they cant have their picture taken and put on a building or close down a massage parlor or strip club you will be labeled a misogynist who is just trying to control women and tell them they cant do something.

Notice the contradiction here.
Redempteur  +   307d ago
Sitting and talking to Milo in a kinect tech demo => ( 8 years old ) => praise !

Sitting and talking to a girl that look like 14 or 15 year old in a VR tech demo => people complain

Are you guys sérious ?
1Victor  +   307d ago
Just Make A Male Version And Problem Solved.I Bet If It Was A Guy With Guns In Short The Females.Wouldn't Be Complaining About It .
Syntax-Error  +   307d ago
Japanese men have an obsession with lil schoolgirls. Always have. Even some of their fighting games show this. Perverts
Spotie  +   307d ago
And the ignorance continues...
Tapewurm  +   307d ago
Sad that people complain about something as harmless as this....chatting with a virtual girl in a room.... ridiculous how some over exaggerate and persecute anything that isn't considered the norm.... add that it is related to gaming and there you have the double whammy.... just a VR experience... get over yourselves people ... Jeebus! 8)
ramiuk1  +   307d ago
exactly,this isnt sony as such,its japans culture and the way they will want to see things envisioned imo.
when it comes out theres gonna stuff thats alot worse made for it lol
TAURUS-555  +   307d ago
shes hot

thank you sony
Buff1044  +   307d ago
If this were on Xbox One, I doubt the majority if you would be so unforgiving. ;)
Number-Nine  +   307d ago
Japanese people are extremely pervy. As you said, it's part of their culture
Halo2ODST2  +   306d ago
Age of Consent varies, just because in your country it is higher than other countries doesn't mean those other countries are wrong
ritsuka666  +   308d ago
I'm guessing this game with be for the Japan market only and they won't bother to dub that trailer into English as it would just gather more negative attention.
sonic989  +   307d ago
Sadly we will get more first person shooters I cant stand it anymore.
ECHOBLAST  +   308d ago
Where the f is the controversy ? More games like that please !
Godmars290  +   308d ago
More games where you leer at a school girl?

Would rather see flight sims. Sims where you pilot mechs.
jujubee88  +   308d ago
Let's not bury the lead here, this game is very much a sexual fantasy fueled experience. They (Harada et al.) didn't reveal much gameplay or plot, showed a lot of camera angles that focused on the girls legs, breasts, etc.

Right off the bat, I don't think the anime girl looks so young as for this to be labeled a pederast fantasy game. (Again, I'm not doubting this isn't a game that suggests sex and the fetish or being w/ a school girl. I'm just providing my own artistic input about how the girls age might be like: 18, 19, 20.)

Second, I don't find any hentai or anime/manga sexually stimulating. It all looks too abstracted (from photoreal human form), but that's just me. I know that other people do like that and more power to them. I don't think playing this and enjoying themselves does me (or anyone else) any harm.

Last, I am glad that Harada is making this kind of game. Sex is something people don't like to talk about irl or in the comments section of gaming articles, at least, not in the articulate and smart way (biology and psychology of sex) that I'd want to discuss.
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TenBensons  +   307d ago
@Godmars THE most intelligent comment in here +1 bubble for having some brains.
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Godmars290  +   307d ago
This game will likely never officially never leave Japan. It will be imported, used as example from a culture with different standards of how things are supposedly done in that culture, but that's it.
TimeSkipLuffy  +   308d ago
If you are a teen that might be ok to be a stalker and leer at school girls that are under 18??
But if you are an adult I recommend to play other games ^^
MRMagoo123  +   307d ago
I recommend you let people decide what they want to do themselves , it's a game not real life.
ECHOBLAST  +   307d ago
Oh yeah ? Games like Lego and all that stuff ? That kind of game (with the girl) can be usefull for some people. Crippled, ultra shy... It can even be used in therapies.

Of course there will be some burned-brains who will sit all day, doing stuffs with that/those girls, but those guys have a deeper problem. Plus they already exist.

Freedom is the most important, play what you want the way you want.
Thanks ECHOBLAST, finally someone with intelligence.
GEO9875  +   307d ago
Well. Fps are better than fapping to underage Japanese girls.
mochachino  +   308d ago | Intelligent
Both men and women are lying to themselves it they think they find a fully developed fit 17 year old body gross. Doesn't mean they want to have sex with the person, but they're hypocrites and liars if they complain about it while secretly finding it somewhat attractive.

I wasn't that long ago when people were marrying 15 year olds. It's not some aberrant biological defect indicative of pedophilia to appreciate someone younger than 18, a 14 year old sure, but the distinction between adult and minor is a legal creation which varies by country. Appreciating fully developed boobs is natural regardless of whether the girl is 17, 18, or 21. Laws have made it undesirable to do anything more than look but don't lie to yourself and denounce it as disgusting when you probably don't find it as such.

If you want to campaign against sexualizing high schoolers start with all those teen vampire shows, pretty little liars, gossip girl, hollywood movies, etc. where they use actual underage people or depict them clearly as underage, both males and females, and get them shirtless or in bras every episode.

How many of these people complaining were gushing over that shirtless wolf guy in Twilight, or the countless other "teenage" ripped guys in TV and movies? Half of them probably had the hots for Harry Potter.
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Yi-Long  +   307d ago
There's a huge amount of hypocrisy going on in the 'developed' western world when it comes to sex/sexuality.

jujubee88  +   307d ago
What's funny is that if you open up a discussion about sex to those in your social circle; it's really fascinating and fun. You get to know a whole new side of people you didn't know and it's funny and totally awesome what people say and think when it comes to sex.

Back onto the game though, it's pretty interesting (now that I think of it) if a VR game can really capture that feeling of a first meeting and/or "date". I think some people would actually get to know a lot about themselves by playing a game like that. Or, it would cement what they already know about themselves and work as a reflection piece where one can think back "Hey, I remember my first crush went kinda like this!". :)
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ShaunCameron  +   307d ago
It's funny how they claim to be against sex-trafficking while making up the majority of said industry's client base.
Soldierone  +   307d ago
Pointed this out to a "feminist" the other day. They cry how woman are portrayed in a game aimed at a guy, yet walk down the romance book aisle that these same feminists love.

100's (seriously) of books with a shirtless guy, extra big muscles, perfect abs, etc.... and in the books are these "dream guy" characters. Yet thats all perfectly acceptable. Turn the book around, put a picture of a female in a school girl outfit and act in a way guys love and it becomes "offensive" and "wrong." Could you imagine if 50 Shades of Grey was for men?
Yi-Long  +   307d ago | Well said
Not just that: Go to any concert of one of those boy bands and look at how the girls/women are behaving. Ask guys like Tom Jones or Mick Jagger how women have thrown themselves on them.

Can you imagine guys acting like that at a Beyonce or Shakira concert? Throwing their boxers on stage, waiting at the exit to see if Beyonce might fancy a 'quicky'...!?

And just look at the magazines women read: Most of them are about sex, picking up men, how to look attractive for men, about cheating/affairs, etc etc.

Again, the hypocrisy is humongous and ridiculous.

We all have sexual preferences, desires, etc etc. So yeah, we prfer to look at sexy women, be it real or virtual. Nobody is going to care about the girls in Dead or Alive when they're fat veganists who enjoy reading books and dress like grandma and don't shave their legs.

People need to stop being so overly sensitive and be realistic, so all this hypocrisy can stop.
persona4chie  +   307d ago
OMG dood you are so right
mochachino  +   307d ago
Guaranteed if she was flat chested or bad looking it wouldn't matter.

Just because someone is undeniably and unavoidably sexy doesn't make it sexist to depict them. If the only thing the viewer can see is sexyness that's not the fault of the artist. Seems like people are mad and screaming sexism because they can't look past the person's looks.

So tired of people complaining about hot women and praising "regular women" in games. Yes, the average women is obviously average looking but to criticize a game for not having average women is a form of repression and persecution of non-average women. Notice how it's never about how they're no elderly women, or minority women, or women with disabilities in games, it always a problem with female characters having unrealistic bodies or generous proportions.

Some girls actually do have large breasts, overtly feminine features, and/or exceptionally pretty faces. While less common in the general population, they tend to be overtly present in entertainment mediums like TV, movies, and GAMES. There mere fact that someone is extremely sexy isn't in an of itself a form of sexism. Saying it is an attempt to dictate what is and isn't acceptable for a women to look like in entertainment mediums.

It's gotten to the point that game reviewers will criticize a game because the women are too sexy. Hypocrites and liars that dock a game because they found the large breasts or extremely fit the lower body off-putting. I bet if you checked out their browser history it would be obvious they have no issues with either. Laura Croft can't look like a bombshell anymore because it's sexist apparently. Not saying she needs torpedo breasts and an exaggerated lower body but why can't a game developer, like any other artist portray what they feel is the pinnacle of beauty, even if it would be impossible in the real world. Comics do it, movies use body doubles, models are rejected daily for not fitting a certain body type. I don't want to play as the average man, I rather be the ripped guy that kicks ass. Look at commander Sheppard, the guy's could be an underwear model. In fact any human in Mass Effect and many other games could be underwear models. So why do I have to be the average girl? If you find the bigs boobs unattractive fine, but don't penalize the game for it.

Interesting fact is that studies have shown that women are more likely to prejudge a large breasted women as lacking in intelligence or "virtue" (whatever that is)" than a man. It's almost as if the exceptionally beautiful are being persecuted and viewed only as sex objects by the very people objecting to the possibility that they're being objectified.
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ShaunCameron  +   306d ago
It figures. Feminists are typically unattractive, and it seems that their real problem is men (namely the men they deem desirable) not giving them the attention they feel they deserve compared to the more attractive women. Hence the shaming of men preferring the attractive women over them.
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CoLD FiRE  +   307d ago
I agree with most of what you said. However, there's also this wise old proverb "Old enough to bleed. Old enough to breed!" xD

Also, people seem to confuse what pedophilia is. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children. Attraction to teenagers is something else, it could be Hebephilia or ephebophilia depending on age.
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bloodybutcher  +   307d ago
Harry, no. Hermione, on the other hand...(cuz one hand is busy)
Soldierone  +   307d ago
What do people not complain about? it could have been an old grandma and it'd still be offensive.
Quicktim3  +   307d ago
so if this was a boy instead of a girl would anyone have a problem?
BitbyDeath  +   307d ago
MS did that already.

Nekroo91  +   307d ago
Actually they didnt, because they failed.

Project Milo showcased the power of the Kinect when it was annouced for the 360 but it was all a pr stunt.
Eamon  +   307d ago
There needs to be some context here.

Japan has a common tendancy to sexualise or sensualise schoolgirls into people's sexual fantasies. They have the Visual Novel market which are practically made of girlfriend(s) simulators and porn games.

When I saw Milo in Project Milo, because the West aren't known for girlfriend simulators and porn games (or at least involving under-raged girls), I didn't feel disturbed at all.

But when I saw the schoolgirl in the Sony demo, I remembered the Japanese VN market, the sexualisation of young girls there, portrayal of girls in anime and games, as well as the Visual Novel market I mentioned.

Not to mention, the girl was in a bedroom rather than a classroom. She was wearing a school uniform that seemed a bit small, making suggestive movements very near the camera and acting "innocent" in that same sort of weird way that Japan is known for. I.e. the schoolgirl sorta felt inspired by an anime rather than real life.

Milo was inspired by real life.
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Asuka  +   307d ago
I've commented on every single one of these articles, and all I've got to say is I don't care what anyone says I will play the heck outta this game. If it bothers you that's ok, but it doesn't bother me!
CoLD FiRE  +   307d ago
I'm not a Sony fan and don't own any Sony consoles so I'm not trying to troll or anything by saying this, but if this is as good as it looks there will be a reason for me to get a PS4.
amnalehu  +   307d ago
I'm pretty sure its an actual IP; Summer Lesson.
Geekman  +   307d ago
"What's that!? A girl who has (debatable.) sexual themes for an accessory I'm not being forced to buy or care about? #@$% YOU, SONY! YOU'VE INSULTED US!"
jmguy100  +   307d ago
People complain about a girl (looks like an adult to me) in a game that doesn't seem very sexual yet no one complains about games that have you killing people with guns/weapons. Who cares, not like this'll come outside of Japan.
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PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   307d ago
That girl looks about 18-20
longcat  +   307d ago
but saying that wont drive up ad revenue........
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Yetter  +   307d ago
You guys are all overlooking the biggest issue here. This is exactly what Sony has designed the Morpheus for. Dating sims.
Travis3708  +   307d ago
She looks like she's 18-20 so it's legal. And if people wanna complain about something.. complain about porn being free to access from any PC or Laptop. kids are watching porn everyday it's super easy to find any sex videos on the web.
longcat  +   307d ago
kids are making porn now. that's what omegele is for apparently
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longcat  +   307d ago
ps4 just won japan
HentaiMasterRace  +   307d ago
Inception  +   307d ago
Who's complaining? SJW and feminazis? lol

Anyway, i just read and there's nothing in the articles that talked about people complaining this game. The headline also different: "A Strange New Video Game Transports You Into The Bedroom Of A Japanese Schoolgirl". N4G seriously need better moderation.
S2Killinit  +   307d ago
well, as long as you can shoot people its all dandy.

seems like some people wanna force gaming to conform to the standards of other industries/countries/interest groups.

PS: maybe they should hand her a Gun, it would fix the issue. really, think about it.
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redknight80  +   307d ago
Heck yeah! Murdering people by the 100s is totally acceptable and thankfully doesn't offend any one group because of its indiscriminate nature, woohoo!!!!

By the way, I am agreeing with you...in case my silly sense of humor didn't come across.
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One_Eyed_Wizard  +   307d ago
Can anyone tell me what's wrong with pictures 2, 3 and 4's camera angles? Or is any angle controversial so long as there's a schoolgirl in the camera?

Even number 1 is debatable.
Bytor  +   307d ago
They should protest the Disney channel then to be fair.
Bhuahahaha  +   307d ago
ok lets make it a grandma dress in school uniform
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traumadisaster  +   307d ago
It is not a girl or alive for that matter, it s a code of 001001010. In jap porn they try to blur the age-line of the female...is she legal or not, that is a problem. There is a fetish for that and I find it obscene. For VR, if a same aged boy is looking at a girl that it what happens in real life.
hkgamer  +   307d ago
not just in japan, high school porn is popular world wide. they could get away with that because high school can mean 18, therefore they are not depicting child porn.

obviously the age of consent is different in every country. so those factors need to be considered.

i read on wiki that age of consent in japan is generally 18, but some places are 13. not sure how that works, but i guess you need to take these into consideration.

it may sound like i am defending this, but it those seem very freaky.
level 360  +   307d ago
Think most gamers' would probably have a high acceptance of this footage..

..but show it outside the gaming community and it'll be a different story. Amused or be offended or both.
kx11  +   307d ago
virtual hentai

and sony is spear heading that revolution
Bhuahahaha  +   307d ago
viva rebolucion
A01234567  +   307d ago
This is simply a part of their culture, it's hypocritical to discriminate against their culture for what is an assumed discrimination against women. As of yet, there is no justification to think this will be inappropriate.
AgentSmithPS4  +   307d ago
Normally I'd like to just upload info to my brain but I'd like to learn some lessons from her, as long as she's legal of course, even though she doesn't really exist.
Ppl really need to get a life.
hkgamer  +   307d ago
wait so sitting in a school girls room is bad, but in project milo talking to a kid whos playing with swings in a park(?) isn't?

seems like if it is a girl its bad but a younger boy its ok?

lol, only jk. lets admit it, japanese are freaky with this stuff. i guess its just the older generation though, i doubt the younger new generation are more sane, similar to everywhere in the world. in the UK it seems like a majority of people over the age of 50 molest youngsters >.< jimmy savile, rolfe harris, etc....
WitWolfy  +   307d ago
Leave my future VR wife out of this!
feraldrgn  +   307d ago
"Some examples of potentially controversial camera angles in Sony's new video game called Summer Lesson."

Get your mind out of the gutter.
Nicominoru  +   307d ago
It's part of their culture...either accept it or move on, it bothers me that everyone loves to be a hypocrite and try to bring their own morale compass into this. Morality rarely even enters into these kind of things anymore, haven't you noticed that the standards you live by are really only reflections of the society that you where raised in or that you currently live in?

How people have access to the internet, but still choose to remain ignorant to other cultures and still be so closed minded is beyond me. You don't have to accept it, but you don't have to cause a shit storm over it either.
HentaiMasterRace  +   306d ago
So true!
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