Gamemoir's Victor gives a spoiler filled rant on the topic of why Batman: Arkham Origin’s bait and switch didn’t work for him
I agree. Arkham Origins had such potential with the story. My friends and I kept saying "$50 Million dollars!" the way Black Mask said it. We needed a game where Joker wasn't the antagonist...We almost had one. Origins would've been much better if they kept the Antagonist the way they advertised it.
Well that's kinda not fair to them They were making a prequel to Arkham Asylum which starts with Batman taking Batman in for "something", with Joker wanting to get caught for whatever reason which leads on to the actual game The story in Origins smoothly transitions into Arkham Asylum Arkham Origins was "good" but they weren't as good as Rocksteady at properly pacing the game, the combat was slightly off (referring to the countering mechanic) and when it released it was PLAGUED with bugs (some slightly game breaking and ubiqitous) It was an 8/10 game imo but its first impression left a bad taste in people's mouths which stuck with the game long after its problems were fixed
Well i'm playing origins atm between work and honestly it's bad i mean really bad compared to the first two games it looks completely different batman stutters between certain animations his personality is badly done compared to the other games i really don't like the way it's animated it doesn't feel real i can't precisely put my finger on it but something is really off in this game and i have trouble finishing it while with the first two games i almost forgot to sleep i was hooked
What I didn't like about the game was that the Joker was the main villain. I also didn't like how this batman is suppose to beat less experience than the older more mature batman in asylum/city; yet he is able to beat an intelligent Bane and Deathstroke.
one of my favorite things from the batman tv show was his first encounter with bane. he actually gets hit sh** kicked in and his back broken. its so cool, and if he got beat by bane, if deathstroke wounded him fatality, that would of been a good build up, at least for a 8 hour game compared to a 3 hour movie or a 15 minuet show, but.. yeah oh well :p
All in the same 24hour period. Not only did he beat those two, he beat Shiva who is a better martial artist than anyone else in all of DC.
Exactly, Origins took the super easy story route and shoe horned a popular villain in just for the heck of it. They should have kept it the Black Mask, the Joker is a great villain but he is not about these huge gad plot schemes. He just does things that pop into his mind.
does it count that this joker was actually 100x better than the one in asylum and city. but yeah I can understand people are already bored with the character overuse. I loved all the batman games so far and don't get the hate towards origins which is the same game as city (but better story, writing, acting!! )
Seriously cause i think this game is worse in every way and if the story is really better they did a really bad job presenting it and about the acting i can't agree on that animations stutter and hang in this game that's just bad even if the story would be better stuttering animations and hiccups don't equal better acting sorry
http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... imo they really did a good job and I am saying this only because asylem and city were not that great at it. the joker reveal was awesome and how his relationship played with batman ... (spoiler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: batman saving joker http://www.youtube.com/watc... fucking loved this scene. ) truly I loved orgins and god I hope rocksteady can do the same .. or better.
Ark ham origions was a great game. I had no issues with it
Well then people are going to be really pissed when they find out Arkham Knight is a clone of the Joker. Either a clone, os some of Joker's genetic material being used to create a new person. There's also the possibility of Joker and Batman's DNA being combined to create this character. Either way, the Cadmus Labs involvement pretty much confirmed this for me. I could be wrong though. Think about it. The whole Arkham series has been about the Joker's career just as much as its been about Batman's. Joker has definitely been the star. I doubt they would make the whole series document Joker's criminal career and then not include him in the grand finale in some way, even if that just means basing it around his legacy that he's left behind. Arkham Origins showed his first appearance as the Joker. Arkham Asylum showed him at the peak of his criminal career. Arkham City showed his death. Arkham Knight will be his legacy.
Annoying bugs and lack of realism hurted that game more than Joker ever could.
Bugs yes but what realism can you expect from... 1. a videogame 2. a comic book hero 3. a videogame based on a comicbook hero
Origins is the worst money grabbing piece of unfinished garbage I've ever bought
This game ruined the combat and really screwed up the villains and story. Are we to believe Batman meets all of these villains in a 24hr period? There's also a reason why people are still doing the Joker's challenge map on Arkham City. The combat there is the best in the series..
Lets just put it this way, Rocksteady doesn't even acknowledge the existence of Origins and being apart of the batman series. they refer to Arkham Knight as the end to the Trilogy, implying 3 games, not 4. you know it must have been bad if not even Rocksteady wants to admit it happened.
Rocksteady helped them throught the develpoment; everytime they say "trilogy" is referencing the Rocksteady trilogy, meaning the trilogy of games they made. "Rocksteady doesn't even acknowledge the existence of Origins and being apart of the batman series." yet Sefton Hill, one of the founders of Rocksteady says that Origins is canon.
I'm glad I bought this game off psn during the "superhero" week, so I haven't encountered all of these bugs that many have since day 1. With that said, for an Arkham game it gets the job done if not for playing it safe. As far as reusing villains I agree it was tiresome and strange to see batman fight against experienced adversary's like bane and death stroke within a span of 24 hrs. As for the use of joker and story telling. This is a prequel to the Arkham games. If joker didn't play a role in this game it would feel off and this was a great entry to the series that lead perfectly into Arkham asylum. You play that game with a better appreciation as to what's going on because now you know why bane is the way he is and also why the joker is so fascinated with batman. Tldr: Arkham origins played it safe but had all the right tools and elements to make a prequel entry leading to an already existing game good. That was their job and that got it done. As for the bugs..sorry for everyone that had to experience it.
The plot twist and Joker storyline did not exactly ruin the game, I thought it was a good story and the hotel attack quite stand out. The problem is games aren't like comics, and we got three Joker stories in a row and it's not like we can wait until next week to get a new story. I would love to see another batman after Arkham Knight, but Joker shouldn't be involved at all.
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