On the road to making a portable gaming device/media center, Microsoft is looking towards the PSP for advice on what NOT to do.
lol,I laugh at companies that think taking on a Nintendo hand held is a matter of sidestepping another companies mistake. Here's the hard truth;Nintendo have yet to release a hand held(and not a hand held revision)that has failed.So if you think Sony selling over 35 million PsPs is a failure of a sort,then you thought wrong.
I actually need a pair of shoes. Microsoft will join the fashion one day. Jumping from Software to electronics and fashion Microsoft was a software maker. Now it's also makes electronics. So you better wait for their Airplane one day. ---> Just estimating
Very good point condi ...the zune hasn't even tackled the ipod yet..nor will it...ever.I can't see it taking on ninty's handhelds as well."They want to perfect music before video, and video before gaming" ....seems gaming is dead last on the list,not much initiative to go out and buy a zune that plays games. Microsoft handheld=interesting....ms handheld vs. nintendo=FAIL
they should find out how to make things that don't catch on fire
It's going to be just like the current console war. Sony and Microsoft battling each other for second while Nintendo laughs their arses off and drinks expensive champagne with their caviar.
After Vista Xbox 360 Zune failed now it's XBP's term to fail Microsoft loves to lose money instead of donating
And you love smoking crack with Amy Winehouse so that makes you worst.
Zune is a flop. It only sold 1 million compared to 100 million iPods sold. 360's RROD caused MS to loose money. That's what you get for rushing a system. Vista is terrible. The only reason many people have it is because it's pre-installed. XP forever!
Vista didn't fail Xbox 360 3 red rings of death are joke Zune doesn't suck ! It kicks Ipods butt and yes I'm smoking chronik
Vista has sold more then XP in the same amount of time. xbox 360 is currently in second place and is one of the 2 console holders that is making money. Zune is the second best selling MP3 player in the market. Do you people even look up stuff before you spit or crap from what you call a mouth? Go ahead and disagree all you want it doesnt change the fact that what i said is the truth and what your saying is bullsh1t
You son of a crap make me laugh bro ! @ Zune the second best selling MP3. Well there are only 2 choices out there that people can buy. first, Ipod and second Zune. so Zune fails. If there were 300 brands like Ipod and Zune was the second then that would sounds AWESOME. No one really gives a sh!t to other MP3 players out there. @ Xbox 360 the second making money ? ! FAIL BROTHA FAIL. Wii first, PS3 second, Xbox 360 third ! Microsoft is losing $$$$ on 3 Red ring of sh!t. It's like being the 3rd winner when there are only 3 peopl racing. YESSS moma I was the 3rd mother f**ker at the school and the race was between only 3 people.
@BLaZiN PRopHeT - of course they don't why do you think I call them Sony leg humpers? brainless leg humpers... They call vista a failure yet it has a larger installbase than any non-windows OS... Zune position itself to the #2 MP3 player which include sony MP3 players and everyother one in the market... how about the xbox 360.. such of a failure that it lead the PS3 by 6,000,000+ in the US... and it's profitable... "Well there are only 2 choices out that people buy an MP3" ohh lord... let's ignore this fool... he actually believe that only two companies make MP3 players... Microsoft and apple... that only two MP3 players exist in the world... ignorant... stop wasting bandwidth...
You poor thing. The Zune is doing terrible compared to it's competitor. Vista sucks. 360 will be in last place.
PSP is also an mp3 player. PSP > Zune.
Continue to believe what you want. you have no idea how stupid you look with the stuff you say. i mean serious do you really think theres only 2 MP3 players on the market? You know your beloved company sony does make an MP3 player also right? Yes MS is making money why dont you go look at their financial statements. come on everyone knows the ps3 is in third no matter how much of a blind fanboy you are that isnt gonna change for now. Morons like you should of all been swallowed by your mothers.
besides a Ipod what other mp3 players are well known...zune has a commercial almost every night on conan o'brien..with all new computers having vista installed you have to guess they are doing pretty good. the psp makes for a lousy portable mp3 player...the thing is too bulky (this is the slim) to fragile and from what I have been experiencing from the last firmware updates is terrible bouts of the music player freezing.
and to think there are 10 people that agreed with this fool. I can't really say anything else that you guys didn't already correct with this FUD. We need a "Report as Stupid" button added to N4G.
@1.4 Actually, Vista sold more because more people had computers during Vistas time than XP's time *if* Zune is the second best selling MP3 player, then iPod must be seriously raping the market, since for ever 1 zune sold, there were 100 iPods sold.
LMAOOO Xbox portable gets the RSOD Red screen of death.
i dont see what they could make that would revolutionize hand held gaming so much people would flock to it and continue to buy it? and when i think MS portable handheld system i dont exactly think small.
fully integrated with XBLVM and XBLA. you can play your arcade games on zune and watch movies from the market place on it. also this is done wirelessly. just my idea on something they could do.
psp's got that and more, instead of just arcade games, psp can play arcade games and most of PS1 titles. It can go on the web, stream, etc. So it wouldn't revolutionize anything, it would just go with the flow
Sorry I think he meant legally. You can't play PS1 games on your PSP legally.
It's called the PSN, you buy PS1 titles of the PSN.
it's also called remote play! put (i think) any ps1 game (chrono trigger, ffvii, megaman legends, plus many, MANY more) into your ps3 and you can play them through remote play. NICE what if you got the RROD while connecting your M$ handheld to your 360 via a similar remote play function. just a thought.
bladestar = Microsoft leg humper.
Kill yourself by writing your name and the POS3 in your phucking death note.
Lol Yagami, you struck a nerve there. Here, give whoknew this pacifier quick. He might stop crying once you do that. xD
If the Zune has anything to say about M$ attempt at mobile devices.....the PSP will be fine..
Just based on their track record, they'll probably call it the Grooker or the Xbox RAD.
and Blu and Qore are better names?? Maybe they just need to take a name and then spell it wrong and it will be cool? LOL @ Xbox RAD that did give me a laugh
It's called a trademark.
LOL Are you serious? Or you think that M$ should copy the whole thing from Nintendo? At least that shouldn't be a problem for M$. If PSP is a failure just because it doesn't sell as good as DS then X360 is also a failure compared to Wii.
so wouldnt that make sony a failure twice? you know since the psp didnt sell as much as the DS and the ps3 isnt selling as much as the Wii. Your logic not mine.
only problem I have with the PSP as a media/music device is that it doesn't even have the standard audio mp3 player formats such as search by artist, etc etc. you practically have to do it yourself with the music portion as well.
"A RRoD to go, please"
Has this guy even tried out a PSP? Last I checked I have over 1 GB of video on my PSP by way of flash card. It can vary on size due to resolution, but it's easy to have video on PSP outside of the UMD format with some simple software on your PC. You can easily convert most video formats and add them onto your PSP. I don't think this guy has even really explored the functions of the system. "On a game level, it has done well. But even there, it is mostly PlayStation 2 ports. There isn't much original content." Again, has this guy not even looked at the PSP? There's a ton of original content. Crisis Core, God of War, Brave Story, Final Fantasy Tactics PSP, Daxter, Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops. Not much original content? The games I've listed are only a few of the original games available on Sony's portable handheld console. The statements made by Mr. Bach are ill-informed. There's plenty to be had on the PSP and this is a very weak statement regarding it. I encourage people to disregard his statements and pick up a PSP. There's much activity to be found on said system. Enjoy! :)
How about Locoroco,Patapon,and Beats, these are just a taste of the awesome original content on the PSP.
I think he was referring to new I.P's on the PSP. He does have a point, most people buy a PSP to play portable versions of franchises off the PS2 like all the ones you just listed. Nothing wrong with that though, since its the exact same thing with the DS.
You could be right. But from his intonation I think he's talking about past and present original content on the system. True, the immediate future may not be truly scintillating, but Sony has a long history of supporting it's active consoles as well as third parties. We need only have a bit of faith. Lord knows Sony is delivering high quality content on PS3, and I doubt they would ignore the ever increasing PSP install-base.
people takin this post personally arent they lol. personally i think it wil be a few years at max b4 next gen of hand helds come out.
I think Nintendo will make a new one in a few years, but PSP is just now starting to sell good so they'll probably wait a little longer. Or who knows, maybe they have a PSP2 to come out at the same time as the next Nintendo system. Hopefully the prices are about the same or the Nintendo will dominate once again.
good it will be handy in winter when i need a portable heater
Nintendo has dominated handheld gaming since the introduction of the Gameboy. Sony enters the arena with the PSP and fans say it is a bold move and praise their innovation. Sony has dominated the console market since the introduction of the Playstation. Microsoft enters the arena with the Xbox and Sony fans say it is a desperate attempt and they will fail. Here's the reality. Handheld gaming is a billion dollar market. Nintendo has had a stranglehold on it for years. Many have attempted to cut into this market and many have failed. Currently the PSP is doing a nice job of cutting into Nintendo's marketshare, but they are a distant second. Cell phones are trying to squeeze into the market along with rumored Apple and Microsoft entries. This is no different then Microsoft and Sony's attempts to take a slice of the portable music market that Apple has owned since Sony gave it up with their Walkmans. Microsoft has already taken a nice share of the console market along with Nintendo which used to have a majority share many years ago. This is the way business works. It doesn't matter if you are selling aspirin, cola, or crayons. If their is a market, others will join in to try and get a slice. -Death
I don't care if Microsoft come into the hand held business. What the article is saying is that Microsoft looks to the psp as a failure and learn from it. Which is not true at all, because sure the psp isn't first in the hand held market, but its still alive and giving the DS a pretty good fight, definitely not a failure. Failure is dead or almost dead which would be like selling 500 units a month
Damn, I wish it were troll season. Becuase this thread is full of them. People thought for years that no one could top Nintendo in a home console. They had been dominating sales, yes even against Sega. But look what happened, they got their butts handed to the twice by Sony in the home console market. So those who say it's impossible, think again. History tells us diffrent.
Its handhelds. They control 80% market share. The made the DS so ports would be impossible. 90% of games made for the DS with special controls with 0% of ports = failure for PSP. It stops companies from leaving and porting. Nintendo doesn't make the same mistake twice.
Oh yeah, I agree with what you are saying. Nintendo has a firm hold on the handheld arena. No doubt about it. Sony owned around 70 plus percent of the home console market last gen and now they find themselves in unfamilair territory. I dount anyone can ever beat Ninty with the handhelds, but I learned a long time ago to never say never.
Oh dear...we don't want the mini ring of death to worry about now. D:
Would anyone buy a MS handheld given MS track record at making unreliable hardware. As usual MS joins a market way too late. A MS handheld has fail written all over it.
How is Sony entering any different?
two analogue sticks, not pushing some stupid movie format, and actual games, like HALO on the go. SUCK IT.
Watch and learn what? How to get a mini RROD from a MS portable? If MS is in fact working on a portable, then they're wasting their time and resources when they should be focusing on the 360.
360's already out. time more new stuff. DUHHHH
And watch the competition bypass the current stuff. Heh.
The PSP has sold 35 million so why would they want to watch and learn from a company that is failing at everything they do!? I have a name for your console DelusionalBox 360 considering you guys are delusional! and the real Fony here is Microsoft.
considering he spell like a 6-year-old. Since Microsoft and hardware doesn't go together since it is bound for death and a return to your local retail shop.
It wouldn't be a bad thing if MS made a portable, but at this point they are not equipped to do such a thing. They have the 360 and the zune... They are streatched thin right now, and are still new to the games business. I like competition in all forms, but MS hasn't fully figured out their other problems yet. They are still battling with the 360 and its issues. The zune isn't making the kind of impact as the I-pod. People are still complaining about Windows Vista. And alot of people have a general hate for MS. Not to mention trying to get more developers to jump ship on the DS or the PSP.
I like the PSP, but portable gaming is kind of a lost cause. Even if the DS is the best selling gaming system. They have too many generic games out for them. I like God of war for the PSP. But so many terrible titles. The DS is the worst for generic titles. They get these crappy anime games that just suck! If I was microsoft, I would never invest in portable gaming. Plus if they did, it would probably just get an RROD or some sort of terrible malfunction. Microsoft sucks at hardware, 360, zune. All junk.
If they added a catridge/memory card gaming element to the Zune, I'd buy it.....but if it was just a download service without a physical media I wouldn't. I like my games in boxes and on shelves in stores :).
I will be AMAZED if they can make a portable that is as nice as the PSP...I love the PSP...and please MS, make sure the thing WORKS...
The only reason MS is probably making money off the 360 is because of all the people who have had to buy 2 or 3 360s because there first machine has failed..as to not wanting to make the same mistakes as sony did with the PSP..at least sony is willing to be innovative..not like MS copying everybody else..
The irony the irony. In spite of M$ being this multi-million dollar company, with all this money and power, cant even win a console war. I am indeed; however, interested in Microsoft's entry into the portable market(as everyone is). There resources are plenty and could easily go the route of the PSP in terms of a multimedia device, being the american equivilant of playstation that they are. Of course, there's the hardware failures to consider.. Microsoft is truly a unique competitor with the losing streak of Sega and the raw horsepower and similar opinions of where games will go from Sony. Whatever they decide, we'll be waiting. Just don't, for the love of god, make the Zune your handheld of choice(Nintendo would crush you down).
IMO the only thing that psp did wrong is using umd as an option to play movies.... But umd is quite fine for holding alot of data.
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