It seems that both franchises were at their respective peaks when they were exclusive to the PlayStation platform. Does it mean anything, though?
Great times, indeed. I still have hope for MGS because of Kojima, i don't know about FF because of Square-Enix, this company is a big joke nowadays.
Funny. I have zero hope for MGS because of Kojima, but to each, his own.
Why is that?
Ya, because Metal Gear has progressively got worse with each release. /s
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Both MGS and FF were not PS exclusives from the start. But in my honest opinion the best entries in these franchises are PS exclusives (FF9 and MGS4). Although looking into the future MGS:5 and FF15 both actually look so good that they will probably take the top spot :) And I have to say that I really don't care about the past, these franchises were only exclusive because at that time, Sony offered the best platform for their creators vision (and space requirements).
blind hater mgs>halo/cod for me
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Mine's based on playing enough of his games to know he does some things well and some things badly. Attaching his name to Silent Hills doesn't immediately imbue me with a sense of hope and awe, as I'm sure it does you. Speaking of MGS5, horse poo, anyone?
@bennissimo Well, to each his own, but can we put the whole "oh horse poop" to rest? It's obviously done as comic relief (something MGS is well known for), it's not like they were trying to make a point out of it (like COD's fish AI on their unveil).
Why? Because he's only made good game?
Metal Gear Solid was never a Sony exclusive... the original was on PC as well... in fact put there by Microsoft in a agreement with Konami to swap games... Konami put Microsoft PC games on PS1 and Microsoft put PS1 games on PC
MGS was released on ps1 in 1998 and 2000 on Pc so it was exclusive for almost 2 years and MGS 4 is still only on Ps3 and also PO and acid are only on PS consoles . Metal Gear solid is most known as a PS franchise and most of its fanbase is on Playstation And The Premium Packages of MGS 1,2,3,4, rising are only on Playstation consoles
Both of those franchises had their start with Nintendo. Regardless of that, being exclusive versus non is not the reason for any quality dip. This used to be a decent site for gaming, but Ben Dutka has went past that line from Playstation enthusiast into irrational fanboy.
@isujester. Metal gear didn't start on Nintendo just saying:)
Well, it technically started on MSX2 and later ported (and changed) over to the NES/Famicon very soon after. So I guess it's PC and Nintendo, even if the NES versions are jacked up. But the point was that Sony had nothing to do with the origins of Metal Gear. Unless you're referring to Metal Gear Solid, in which case I have to remind you that that is not the beginning of the series. EDIT: I also see now that I replied to the wrong fracking comment originally. lol
MGSV is not an automatic buy after that Ground Zeroes money grab.
I thought that game was the perfect holdover/teaser... I know I may be in the minority or am just to invested in my unpopular opinion. But I really liked MGS GZ! And I got it cheap..
I also got it cheap and thought it was awesome!
i bought it for 20 when it released and im still playing it right now
I don't think Bobby was disputing Ground Zeroes quality as a game, but it's attempted price (which was indeed a money grab). Not that I agree with him anyway... I didn't liked the money grabbing, but it would only be relevant to MGS5 for me if they go and price it beyong the usual 60 bucks, i.e. if it started a trend.
MGS:GZ wasn't bad it was just short and the original price was just not justified. Also why are a lot of people forgetting that both franchise started on a Ninty platform?
@article remember that Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are both older than the PS brand?
remember how both series started in America on NES...
I remember when both games got their start on Nintendo.
You remember wrong, because metal gear didn't get it's start on Nintendo. The series started on the MSX2 and Metal Gear got a cheap port to NES done by a third party company (not Konami). Just fun fact of the day:)
Great times? you want less people to play the games?
Every Since FF and Devil May Cry went multiplatform it's never been the same http://www.reactiongifs.com...
Wasn't Final Fantasy franchise on Super Nintendo before the Playstation?
NES and SNES.
Chrono Trigger, (One of my most Beloved RPG's of all time)SNES../also with Dragon Warrior/quest.NES Final Fantasy 1-7 were great too.
It was and the NES before that. I believe it became a "Sony exclusive" due to the file size, cost and possibly install base. Something like VII would have been held back and been absurdly costly (discs are cheaper and store more than a cart) on the N64, so they kept it to the PlayStation, which is where it remained until some time later when the Xbox came around.
It was only on the Xbox with Thirteen. Though the franchise had been suffering since...Seven. There. I said it. Disagree away.
@Godmars I disagree. I quite enjoyed Final Fantasy 9 and 10. 8 had great character designs and FMV. The story was a bit...piss poor.
Final Fantasy was supposed to be released on the N64, but as you said, due to limitation storage space Square opted to release it on the PS1 and became FF7. http://www.lostlevels.org/2...
@Godmars. Final Fantasy 11 was actually on Xbox 360 and PC.
FF7 was the start of Square putting style before substance. The start of Square Enix exploiting SquareSoft's reputation rather than building upon it. Of being a publishing corporation along the lines of EA and Activision, too big to afford to be creative while using tons of cash for over-hyped productions, rather than a developer studio with room for experimentation. The game itself was good, but nothing followed it improved on it. Aside from FF9, which was Sakaguchi's swan song so some all-around effort was put into it. @Jilokle: No. Tech demo using FF4 characters. Differences between carts and CDs at the time made FF7 prohibitive on the N64. At the very least it wouldn't have been the game known today. @BiggCMan: FF - *Online* takes direct elements from past series entries. FF11 and FF14 are not proper entries in the main series and as such should never have been counted as entries.
Godmars, Your reasoning makes no sense because Square didn't merge with Enix until the time between 9 and 10. In fact, at the time of FF7, Squaresoft were pretty small. Thats why they needed Sony to publish it in the west and help translate it - because they didn't have the resources. FFX was for me the first one that went really downhill. No proper world map, linear corridors, awful voice acting, convoluted story, unlikable main character. These are all things that FF13 gets slated for but were also present in 10. The latter gets a free ride because it was a playstation exclusive. This is all of course, just in my opinion
@DOMination: My reasoning makes no sense to you and many because you're taking it too literally. FF7 isn't a bad game, but just like the high school jock who's best moment was the big game, FF7 became the defining moment never reached again. It was all downhill afterwards. FF8 saw an end to mini-games, the movie studio/Spirits Within marked an obsession over graphics and failure to develop a story, while FF13 was rock bottom. Sure, not many think that, but then those same people look for the Final Fantasy name while ignoring actual content. Defend the franchise only by the "logic" of liking the franchise.
FFXI and FFXII were great games. FFXI to this day is my favorite game of all time. A true masterpiece.
The only Sony "Exclusive" final fantasy games were IX and X. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Metal Gear and Snakes Revenge released on the NES in the states. I remember watching my cousin and brother play through both games when I was younger.
I'm guessing you didn't read the article. They addressed that there. Besides that's not what the article is about. It's about the quality of those franchises dropping once they stopped being PlayStation exclusive.
I dont think any mgs game will beat mgs1 , every single one was a masterpiece but the first iteration of a series is usually remembered as the best . At least for me .
Mgs3 was better
MGS3 and Peace Walker are my favorite followed by MGS2 and MGS4. I never played MGS1 btw.
MGS3 was wonderful. I loved 4 as well, but 3's story was absolutely wonderful.
MGS3 is my favourite also, such a beautiful game!
Snake Eater is also my favorite. Best story of them all with the most revolutionary mechanics, gameplay, and soundtrack in my opinion. Though I found the Psycho Mantis and Gray Fox fights to be incredibly memorable. Then again, The End and The Boss were nothing short of epic and beautiful respectively. I love this franchise wholeheartedly. Really, I do. It's kept me in gaming forever.
MGS 4 was my favorite followed by MGS1
I've only played a little bit of 3, but already I've enjoyed it more than 1. I just couldn't get into 4, and 2 was fun but kind of bizarre (Fatman? naked pretty boy whiny blonde chick? overly complex story? wtf!)
I agree, mgs 1 is my second favorite game of all time. I would rank the series from best to worst like this: Mgs 1 Peace Walker Mgs 3 Mgs 2 Mgs 4 Portable Ops All excellent games though.
Yeah, when Final Fantasy games were amazing
IX was the last really good Final Fantasy 10 and 12 were good. After that franchise became mediocre not helped by their obsession for Lightning.
I find it ironic that the last real hope of the franchise returning to the form is FFXV, but even that is not following the traditional FF formula in terms of gameplay. I'll still take that game over XIII or any of its sequels.. ANY day of the year.
Yeah because of Squaresoft.
Yeah I think the original team have their own company now, I may be wrong.
3rd party companies go multi-platform to stay profitable so they can keep making games... I'm just saying.
The maintained profit with exclusive and now the game have suffered.
In my heart.. MGS will always be a Playstation Franchise.
When? Metal Gear Solid 1 was on PC and so were FF7 and FF8 (published by Eidos ironically). Only Metal Gear Solid 2, FF9, FF10 and FF12 were exclusive.
2 was on the Xbox..... </3 ... Well substance i believe it was... Sameshit different makeup.
Yeah I remember buying mgs2 substance on Xbox when it came out at my local circuit city...got a free shirt...first game I ever bought twice...had sons of liberty on ps2 already
Number 2 was on PC and Xbox too in substance version (horribly optimized for both) then number 2 substance again on xbox 360 in HD remake with number 3 and peace walker HD. In fact the only real Metal Gear games that are really exclusive to Playastaion where MGS portable Ops, Metal Gear Acid 1&2 on PSP, and MGS4 on PS3 which will stay exclusive due to the many elements of the game having playstation related stuff top them: Metal Gear Mark II & III using the Cell processor, Sunny playing with a PSP , Otacon talking about Bluray on the PS3 and disk swap on the PS1 and many other stuff like that.
What a BS article I played both MGS and FF8 on PC, and thats more than 14 years ago "exclusive" my ass.
FF7 and MGS2 were also on the PC.
Yeah was about more or less 1997ish when I bought a PC Format mag just to play the demo, to find out later that day my PC (Pentium 1 233mhz) didnt have the required specs. Couldn't even properly listen to songs on my PC, the sound always got messed up 3 tracks in. As if the vocals ran away from the beat. WAS WEIRD!!!
MGS 1 didn't come out on PC till 2000
FF started on nintendo platforms but 7, 8, & 10 is what really made the franchise popular which were on playstation platforms. MGSlug started on nintendo platforms aswell but MGSolid series became popular & huge from playstation platforms. GTA aswell didnt become a huge success until hitting playstation platforms. Most classic 3rd party games started their success from playstation platforms. I can name so many franchises but not going to flood this article with that.
Lol @Disagrees. Truth hurts.