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VGS- August 19th: Why Japanese Games are Inherently Sexist or Is it Cultural Confusion?

VGS cuts through the drek at Gamescom and find the information you need to know..

Including this little gem, from Hideo Kojima and Metal Gear Solid V. In the trailer a visage of scantly clad western women are used to distract and confused trained super soldiers from their task.

Is this game play mechanic a campy wink to the original’s in the franchise? Or perhaps, it is emblematic of a larger issue that persist in most Japanese games…..the complete objectification of women.

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HanzoHattori1005d ago

I wonder what would happen if someone said that western made games are mindless fluff?

PureSophistry1005d ago

Well Hanzo, I would hope that would be a measured and compelling criticism of generalities found artistically.

The "box banging boobies" of MGSV....who is that possibly for?

DarkOcelet1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

Dude those stuff were in metal gear since mgs1 , why are you giving kojima a hard time with these things , its optional and you can go the whole game without even realizing they exist and its just a game .

HanzoHattori1005d ago

Not all Japanese games are sexist and not all western games are mindless fluff. I hope you see the point i'm trying to make?

scark921005d ago

MGS always had stuff like in that in their games, its part of MGS at this point.

Th4Freak1005d ago

Well PureSophistry, the problem is that you're criticizing a different culture, the problem is that there's a thing called subjectivism and the problem is that you're trying to impose your culture.

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breakpad1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

totally agree ..all kind of idiots and uneducated people have become game journalist and sociologist knowing what is sexist ,racist and giving labels around...guys find another job , stop talking about games and play Fifa, CoD and flappy bird, gems on your mobile ...are the only games you must play according to your brain

AHall881005d ago

Different cultures are different. You can't force another culture to adapt to another, especially when that other culture isn't any better itself. ;)

Besides MGS has always had humor like that, don't like it, don't buy it, simple really.

You white knighters keep on white knighting though, lol.

Heisenburger1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

I've said this elsewhere, but the specific example of MGS V and the "sexy box" thing is actually showing you how stupid, and easy to manipulate the men in the game are honestly. It's not sexist towards men either, but if anything is makes the men look weak, and stupid.

It's just good fun. Breaking Bad peppers in the humor so that it's not just a depressing ride. That's what Kojima seems to do, as well.

Blacktric1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

"Or perhaps, it is emblematic of a larger issue that persist in most Japanese games…..the complete objectification of women."

Really? So you are completely fine with men who look like models or has the body of 30 wrestling champions mixed together that we see in most of the Japanese games? This issue's been discussed thoroughly for the past 6 years. Let it go already. We don't need any more click bait crap like this that doesn't even add anything to the table other than baselessly accusing developers.

ShowGun9011005d ago

yea, Gears of War made me feel objectified...

not like i don't look like Marcus Fenix or anything... cause i totally do! Really!

ok, i missed like, 1 gym day...

(outta 1)

PureSophistry1005d ago

You decidedly did not listen or read anything that was presented.

The notion that "this has already been talked about" therefore we shouldn't discuss it...is ludicrous.

The question of female representation in any art form needs to an expression of equality and narrative depth. I pose the question, "Is this asinine display of the female form a persisting culturally issue- or is MGS hurting narrative progression"

You take a dev like Suda 51, who is able to paint a delicious satire of cultural difference with functioning gameplay mechanics while never preening.

MGS V was advertised as the "new- more realistic way to play" Why are trained super solders being tricked by cardboard titties?

Heisenburger1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

Do you even Metal Gear bro? jk

But seriously, it's really a part of the series, while simultaneously expanding the players arsenal of tools. How is a man, so stupid that he is gawking at a box, an insult to women and not men?
I can appreciate your point of view. I just don't agree with the negative reaction to a staple of the series, the oddball humor.

Metal Gear has always had some seriously heavy subject matter. As I said above, Breaking Bad peppers in humor to keep it from being totally depressing. A bit of a palette cleanser, if you will. That's how Metal Gear is too. Now I understand that your issue isn't that there is humor, but that since they use an image of a woman as a conduit for the humor, you are offended.

The real counter to that entire argument is Metal Gear Solid 2. You run around as Raiden, naked, cupping himself while he does spin kicks. If they can do that to the main male character, why can they not have an idiot male soldier fooled by the image of a pretty woman on a box?

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Blacktric1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

"The notion that "this has already been talked about" therefore we shouldn't discuss it...is ludicrous."

That's not the sole reason. It's also because it's a pathetic non-issue to talk about, on top of it being brought up and analyzed countless time in the past 6+ years, is what makes it a worthless topic at this point.

"MGS V was advertised as the "new- more realistic way to play" Why are trained super solders being tricked by cardboard titties?"

And? They were talking about how some mechanics worked in general. The way enemy soldiers arm themselves with better armor and weapons when you replay a mission or the way they tactically coordinate with each other to properly flank you. They weren't talking about the typical ridiculousness found in MGS games. If you are going to bring up the realism card, you shouldn't look at a game that has walking tanks capable of launching nukes or cyborg ninjas with stealth camouflages.

Again, stop beating a dead horse. This non-issue's been discussed to death already and every single time the loser side's been the one with people who got easily riled up after seeing a half naked woman in a game and tried to make it look like an issue.

roboteye1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

>MGS V was advertised as the "new- more realistic way to play" Why are trained super solders being tricked by cardboard titties?

No, it wasn't, and I challenge you to show me the quote with a source.

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