Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot comments on why Watch Dogs will be the last "mature" game from Ubisoft on the Wii U.
Maybe if the big publishers didn't churn out so many crappy ports and put low effort into the games on Nintendo consoles, maybe Nintendo fans would buy their products?
Let's entertain the possibility that Wii U owners just maybe own other system and buy multiplats over in those systems. I know for sure I'll never ever buy a multiplat on the Wii U.
Specifically because as a Nintendo console owner, you should know you won't be getting full third party support thus if you care for Assassin's Creed, Madden, Call of Duty ... you are a Nintendo owner that owns an X-Box or Playstation or all of the above. IF a Nintendo console came out with FULL third party support right out of the gate ... maybe things would be different.
yes and no on that one. If the developer can prove that the experience is better utilizing the gamepad for example, then I can overlook better graphics and still play it on the Wii U. That being said, those games are few and far between.. lol
Only reason i buy multiplats on Wii U is because Im not getting suckered into paying to play online. Not everyone is stupid enough to pay subscription fees for something that has always been free.
I am not disagreeing with you, but there has been a few ports that were better on Wii U, Like Rayman, and Trine 2. Going forward I DO agree that Wii U will get the crappy ports of games, when it gets them at all. Since there are so many great games for Wii U and coming out soon as well I am not sweating it.
So is it hard for publishers to put a wiiu logo beside all of those other platforms? That would be the first step. If a company can not even announce their own game why should nintendo be responsible for it. If a company doesn't see a profit on the wiiu then fine. Eventually this thinking will catch up to them as more 3rd parties go out of buisness. Many play styles will develop ip fatigue and then they will need that just dance to regroup. The problem is they might not be up to speed on the wiiu as the tech advances.
+1 i bought a wii u to play the nintendo ip's , i dont see any reason to buy multiplat games on that console when i have a ps3 - ps4 and pc where all my friends play already
Honestly don't think Wii U owners, myself included, buy ports when it comes out on ps3 or 360 like a year earlier. Now if they were to make an all new game besides ports, I'm sure we would see a spike in sales. Imagine instead of an MGS,CoD(example) remake we actually see an MGS,Cod spinoff, guarantee it would sell better. Also the Wii U is not the system of choice when it comes to the online mp of any game which is solely N's fault
Not just N's fault, don't you know how things went with Nintendo and EA?
Not only that, but when did you see efforts from Nintendo and Ubisoft to push the third games on Wii U? They never gaves a reason to abandon PS3 or 360 to go in favor of Wii U. And when you know that the Wii U version of Black Flag is the worst, why should I buy that game on Nintendo's console? Unfortunately, I did. And considering that third party games don't usually sell well on Nintendo platforms, naturally every Ubisoft game on Wii U was going to flop, not even the good ones like Rayman Legends sold well. Bad ports + terrible advertisement + bad sales of the platform = flop. Ubisoft and Nintendo are not considering this.
Deus Ex was the best version and no one bought it. Arkham City actually added content but is the lowest rated thanks to the tablet controls....and no one bought it. Every console receives bad ports and it also happens on PC. Instead of making excuses, maybe it's time to look at the console itself and the type of gamer that owns a wiiu. And what about the hard core exclusives on the platform. Wonderful 101 sold 200k and ZombieU sold 700k. Can't blame bad ports here.
Like many say above, why should I buy the worst version of Assassin's Creed IV, with a frame rate that goes usually in the 22-25 FPS, no DLC, with lack of features, etcetera? That actually matters. Arkham City is the worst rated due to performance issues, and it launched 1 year later, come on. And ZombiU and TW101 launched in flopping platforms with non existing advertisement in the case of TW101.
Hold up, Deus Ex is a 3 year old game. Also EVERY version of Deus Ex: HR Director's Cut was 29.99 and they foolishly charged 50 bucks for JUST the Wii U version. It is a damn shame W101 did not sell. Nintendo failed to advertise it outside of a Direct that probably only reached an audience of people already planning to buy it. Zombi U was mediocre as all hell. It made good use of the hardware but was not a very good game and im honestly surprised over 1/7 of wii u owners bought it. Im confused by your last statement. Are you implying casuals bought the Wii U? Or gamers that don't support crappy ports, unfair pricing, or games that are better suited for other platforms? Casuals are a minority on the Wii U. Look at abysmal sales of casual shovelware that would've sold a ton on the Wii. Every fitness game and party game has utterly flopped on the Wii U because the casual audience is small. Also in response to article, both sell bad on Wii U. Just Dance 4: 250,000 AC4: 190,000 Its just that the just dance games don't cost much to port.
"Deus Ex was the best version and no one bought it. Arkham City actually added content but is the lowest rated thanks to the tablet controls....and no one bought it. " Yes, but to be fair, Deus Ex was also set up to fail. Not only was it an updated port and not only did the updated version release on other platforms, Square thought it would be smart to charge $20 more than the "lesser" versions. I mean, it might be the best / most definitive version, but I don't think anyone is looking to pay 66% more for the "best" version of any game. "Every console receives bad ports and it also happens on PC. Instead of making excuses, maybe it's time to look at the console itself and the type of gamer that owns a wiiu. " There is a difference between bad ports and clearly doing the minimal. Take a look at Injustice, not only did the PS3 / 360 versions get preorder bonuses, it took the Wii U months to get literally any DLC for the game. The same goes for Call of Duty, which, as far as I'm aware, Activision never brought the map packs to the Wii U version (I think it also took them months to get the free fall map pack). Probably one of the best examples is Batman Origins, since that is missing the online mode. Considering you're paying the same for each of these games, it just makes sense to stick with the version that offers the most content / continued support. "And what about the hard core exclusives on the platform. Wonderful 101 sold 200k and ZombieU sold 700k. Can't blame bad ports here." Yes, but I don't recall a lot of marketing for either game or Rayman Legends (beyond the GS demo) for that matter. Naturally when you don't spend money on marketing or getting your game out there, then your odds of failure increase exponentially.
Stop making excuses^^ you are a funny one, saying that and arguing with games like Deus Ex and Arkham City^^ Noone buys late games, only a few, who have never heard of it. You cannot compare sales of 1 game, on 2 consoles, were the first Version came years earlier and if it would become a success, then there, were you can get it first. Who actually believes that a game coming 2 years later to a console, if it was a successful game, will be just as successful, 2 years later? Nobody with a little business sense. You cant blame bad ports on ZombiU or W101, but they were completely new IPs, nobody knew them, new IPs are nice, but not really to get a new console to start sell, first you build up an install base with games people know and want and when many have the console, you can bring new IPs, otherwise nobody will buy a console for a game they dont know. And in my opinion, ZombiU was a bad game, but that is up to ones taste. Instead of saying we should stop making up excuses, you should try to use logic here, I bet you wouldnt have bought any of these gimped games, but act like you would, because it is always easy to say stuff, if you are not in the situation. You obviously have to much money then.
Nothing is ever Nintendo's fault. Nintendo catered to casuals and alienated core gamers and developers. I would love for Nintendo to make a game that me and my friends want to play! They can't even get Pokemon on console and we've been begging for that since Blue and Red!
Pokemon on console may not be that good. Can you imagine 300 hours parked in front of the TV breeding? It'd be good for the single player game but the meta game would be tedious. Although, I suppose playing on wii u wouldn't be that bad!
Well said. I'm not going to by a game that is filled with glitches, missing features and performance issues. Its not that Wii U owners don't by Assassin's Creed. Its that they don't by poorly ported/late/overpriced games in general. I always find amazing how the comapanese "NEVER" ask the actual customer base why they aren't buying product ask them what they want. That is like marketing 101. Find out what your customers want and don't want. The reason they don't is obvious. Its because they already know what it and know that acknowledging it would make them look bad. They'd rather blame Nintendo and the customer base instead.
To be fair to Ubisoft, apart from a couple of framerate issues both Assassins Creed games have been solid ports. 4 lacked dlc but thats about it. I know because im a WiiU owner who would buy AC ahead of any other platform cos its pretty useful having the map on the gamepad. Sometimes being in the mnority sucks. I wonder if they will try 1 more time when bayo 2, X and Devils third drop which may bring more "mature" gamers to the table.
Pretty sure AC black flag wasn't a crappy port . Problem is maybe : -The lack of support ( no dlc ) -The lack of features taking advantage of the wii U -The fact THAT THE CREED BUYERS don't have the console.
Graphics were good. I liked it. But framerates couldve been better and Ubi saying from the start, there wont be any DLC wont help them move games on that console.
I think that it's better to say from the start that there won't be dlc rather than let people buy a game and leave them in the dust. The wii U painfull slow start in sale and nintendo PAINFULL slowness when ity comes to dlc and online infrastructure make it obvious what to do if you're an informed gamer. And comeon ! If you're played all the creed games on either 360 or ps3 , are you really going to change consoles ( wii U ) when the game is available on those 2 consoles ? I wouldn't. There is like no point .. And
@WilliamUsher and others This is not a 3rd party issue, this is also a Nintendo issue, and Wii U owner issue. 3rd party issue I agree if 3rd parties make bad ports then you shouldn't support it, however, there are many cases where these ports have been good, and sometimes better than the PS360 versions, and yet the game still isn't bought, and if you're a Nintendo only gamer then there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be support these games, and telling your fellow Nintendo only gamers to buy them as well....but I'll get into that later. Nintendo issue Nintendo doesn't care about 3rd parties, plain and simple. Nothing Nintendo has done in building the Wii U has lined up with what the majority of 3rd party developers want out of a console, and when you don't play nice with others, then no one will play nice with you. Criterion are the best example of this. Need for Speed Most Wanted U, is a case of the Wii U version being better than the PS360 versions. BUt if you listen to their story about what it took to make that happen you'd understand why they don't want to make another Wii U game ever again. Nintendo didn't have online ready at launch, they didn't have developer tools complete at launch, they had things still coded in Japanese at launch, and ultimately this is why so many launch games were missing features and considered bad ports. Developers had to build new tool chains into their engines just to make sure their games were running well on the Wii U, because Nintendo wasn't ready, and it shows why Nintendo took so long getting exclusives out themselves. There's more to it, but I'll leave it there, and Nintendo needs to do better if they truly want 3rd party support. Wii U owners Deus Ex Human Revolution, Rayman Legends, The Wonderful 101, Assassin’s Creed 3/4, Sonic All-Star Racing Transformed, COD: Black Ops 2 / Ghost, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Batman Arkham City, Need for Speed Most Wanted, and Darksiders 2, Tekken, and more are all good / great 3rd party games that the Wii U has. Of all those games Rayman Legends is the best selling on the console with under 400k copies sold. But if you want to get into mature gaming than Assassin’s Creed 3 is the best selling with under 300k sales. That’s utter BS, and goes to show why developers skip the Wii U. If you want more 3rd party support, you Nintendo only gamers need to look for the 3rd party games that are worthwhile on the console and start buying and spreading the word. Sales determine where many of these developers go, and if they know they'll have abysmal sales on the Wii U, then they're not going to show up. To make matters even worse many of these games have also been on sale for $5 - $10 consistently on Wii U, and yet you guys still won't buy them. Stop buying just 1st party games, and start supporting these 3rd party developers who put in the effort, and chances are you'll see an Assassin's Creed Rouge / Unity, Batman Arkham, Deus Ex, etc... It's a 3 way street, and until all 3 of you are willing to share the road, then it's not going to work out for any of you.
Though I feel that it's true that Nintendo has a different ecosystem, if Ubisoft bothered to advertise their products well, guaranteed that the port wouldn't be gimped, and included special features, I think it could sell decently well. apologizing for Rayman Legends would also help, but they would never do that Though Ubisoft has been "Nintendo's biggest supporter", they've clearly been giving a half baked performance and are untrustworthy when it comes to their word. Sometimes I think they're as bad as EA.
So when you see the next Cod commercial and at the end it says Xbox, understand who paid for that advertisement and why it's up to Nintendo to promote games on their platform. As for special features, why would anyone go through the trouble of adding features to a platform where hard core games fail to sell? Again if Nintendo opened its wallet and spent some of those billions, you'd get more special features and games like Bayonetta 2. We've literally been having the same discussion on why 3rd party support is terrible on Nintendo home consoles for 20 years. You have to blame Nintendo sooner or later.
I am very much aware of Nintendo's faults, I'm sure most people are. But I will not agree that Nintendo should buy third party exclusives, as I feel such policies are despicable and only causes these companies to lose sight of the medium. Could Nintendo better promote themselves? obviously, but they shouldn't have to do it for another, perfectly capable company
See your last comment i didn't agree with but this one i do. Nintendo should either buy third party content, or buy studios to create a steadier stream of games. Either way they have to spend some money already.
It is not about buying 3rd parties . but at least making sure of their presence and cooperation . This is an issue Nintendo consoles had since ever since the n64 , with variation of scopes and magnitude each gen , obvious . Some were based on their different hardware and choices of game storage ... but a lot based upon Nintendo's dealings with publishers
So Ubi is as bad as EA, and in order to be "better" than EA, they have to abandon WiiU? just like EA. Nice logic bro
Actually, I think they're about the same (sales wise). However, Just Dance is cheaper to make, so they go with that.
Wii U has been a pretty bad failure so far. I hope they're working on a new console. but who knows, maybe smash and zelda can drive huge sales for it.
Where have you been son. Mario Kart 8 has boosted the sales of the console to a decent amount. Enough to not be considered 'doomed' anymore.
It's selling roughly the same amount as XB1 now. If wii U is doomed so is Xbox I guess. :P
i love the wii you wish it had more mature games
Yeah the Wii U single player games is where it's at. They need more action games definitely. Heck all that Hannah Montana crap on the Wii totally killed the Wii image and labeled it the girly system. Then N turns around and names it's successor the Wii U
It amazes me how Ubisoft is a absolute wizard when it comes to selling their games on other platforms. But when it comes to marketing games like Assassin's Creed on the Wii U, Ubisoft doesn't do ANYTHING.
I don't want no fucking just dance. If ubisoft stop making these crapy ass ports and start advertising the wii u version like they do xbox one and playstation 4, they likely see an increase in sales so til then stop making all these excuses.
People have to stop blaming 3rd party developers for lack of games on the Wii U. Ever since the Gamecube nintendo has decided to do their own thing by promoting gimmicks such as motion controls and the gamepad. They can't keep releasing a weaker system and expect these developers to cater to them.
Who making them? Third Parties. Who advertise them Third Party? Third Parties. Do they advertise the Nintendo version or offers information on it? Nope Do they mention it in Interviews? Only when Interviewers ask. It not Nintendo fault. Nintendo doesn't even get any big details on their versions unless it a something they put money that would benefit them.
I hate that he said it because it totally sucks for Wii U only owners. :/ However, he's running a business. You can't just make a game for a console when you know nobody will buy it on that console. He should have worded it differently. (Yes, I read the article to see what he actually said.)
Since he only has 1 bubble ill answer for him. Finally someone read the article and not just the comments.
glad they are committed on releasing the Wii U version, that is the version I will be getting. The gamepad seems perfect for it.
Lol they dont advertise the game for the Wii U, every single platform on the commercial included except the Wii U, yet its coming to the Wii U, this is what you call a stealth release, you cant expect your game to sell when you dont let everyone know on the said platform that its coming to their platform,. I remember when a multiplayer setting was also missing for Splinter cell blacklist. Remember when they delayed Rayman Legends on the Wii U just so they can come out on all platforms at the same time? Remember when Rayman Legends was supposed to be an exclusive? Remember how Rayman Legends still sold the most on the Wii U despite the fact having the smallest install base? Now we have watch dogs delayed ONLY on the Wii U, this is Ubisoft's fault for making the said owners wait, they delayed Rayman for the other consoles, shame they cant do it for the Wii U. They already ensured that the Wii U version of watch dogs will get crappy sells. They have no right to complain if it doesnt sell after doing that bullshit. Its sad that third parties treat Wii U owners like crap, yet they complain about their games not selling. Remember with what happened with the Wii? it had the biggest install base out of all and did have 3rd party support, but guess what? Most of the third party games were all trash or shovelware for that matter, sure there are gems hiding in that trash, but it doesnt change the fact how it had tons of unappealing games from third parties. Its like all they wanted was to make a quick buck out of Wii owners with giving them piss poor effort trash.
Bored of AC anyway. They will have over saturated the market with it after these next 2 release. Both companies are to blame but the Rayman and Watch Dogs b.s. scams are hard to ignore. If Ubisoft wants some retarded revenge against Nintendo for not promoting their games or handing them enough money, don't take it out on us. But gratz on the crown of so far this years most disappointing game.
Personally don't need no multiplats on my wiiu (at least if they are not enhanced by good use of the gamepad). What I like to see are more exclusive/tailored games for the Wii U from third partys. Make a second Zombie U, Ubisoft. Or be bold and try something new and creative on the system.
Zombi U was something new and creative, I think. Very so. :P
Since when did Ubisoft speak for all Wii U owners? While A lot of their mature games didn't sell amazing on wii u they made a profit off them, and I for one feel cheated that I can't complete my assassins creed experience. I'm no made of money and I won't buy a console for one game, but I loved AC 3 and 4 but now I can't play assassins creed anymore. I'm actually really annoyed about that. And yes, I actually do believe nintendo is cheap as hell when it comes to marketing. They should advertise their third party games, when some nintendo fan sees them advertising A third party they think, oh cool, maybe I'll check that game out. There are ninty fans who always say third party games suck (Which I don't believe at all) and that leads others to think the same thing. Nintendo does need to advertise a hell of a lot more.
i understand your point but ...Nintendo can say the same thing to Ubisoft and say why dont you advertise your games for the wii u so that the wii u base can increase with your advertisement so that in the future your games can sell more ...what im trying to say is its not Nintendo job to advertise for ubisoft for their games just like its not ubisoft job to make Nintendo base increase by promoting their games for wii u .... both companies are responsible for their own product and should take equal risks in promoting their products ...just saying
I see what you're saying, and yes it really isn't much nintendo's fault, I mean I don't usually see xbox one or ps4 exclusively market 3rd party multiplats, it is just the fact that a lot of wiiu owners aren't interested in assassins creed or splinter cell and similar. I wish they would give it a chance though, cause now the ones that do love third party games are missing out on a lot of great games.
If I remember correctly... AC didn't really get much DLC on Wii U - not to mention the framerate was lower than it was on other systems, and that's with BOTH games. Let's also remember the fact that AC is a series that has JUST started coming to Nintendo home systems; the Wii didn't get any AC games. The DS did, though.
Hey, Guillemot! Rather than "going by what you see" and just ASSUMING Wii U gamers don't want any games at all from you, why don't you, you know, TRY *** ASKING US WHAT WE WANT?! You've made so many mistakes with your games, and we KNOW that you COULD be making great, original games that WOULD appeal to the fanbase more than just a watered-down port, but you haven't even taken the time to ASK us what kinds of games we'd like to see from you! And now you're b*tching that you don't sell, despite all of that?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Get some damned customer feedback instead of going with a knee-jerk reaction based on sales! Try putting forth the effort required to match the expectations of a different fanbase rather than feeding them lesser experiences time and time again! Put up a poll asking us what kinds of games we'd like to see you develop, or if you're too lazy to do that then ask NINTENDO to put up a damned poll about it! Go to conventions and have interviews with websites, that are filled with fans of the Wii U, and get their opinions on what kinds of concepts you could be putting into some new games that would attract the audience! But don't be a damned quitter the moment your watered-down multiplat ports don't sell to players that EXPECT BETTER OF YOU. There's a fanbase on the Wii U that CLOSELY RIVALS THE XB-ONE IN NUMBERS, just WAITING for you to do something truly IMPRESSIVE that would make us sit up and take notice of you in a big way! You could be selling games to all three consoles instead of just two, but you're not making the effort to find out WHAT WOULD SELL to the players of this new system, and are instead going with watered-down ports! Get your head in the GAME, man! We'd GLADLY open up our wallets for you if you'd just start showing you actually CARED, by showing some damned concern regarding what kinds of games we'd love to see you making for the system!
Hold on . Not that i disagree , and dont think Ubi made some major blunder with the Wii U ...But you guys still forget how much effort they poured into the Wii , even supporting ultimately failling new ips like Red Steel , when most 3rd parties gave up . And they still launched the new console with Zombie U , even if obviously they let pure cynicism take them over . The AC ports wasnt bad at all . it was missing dlcs wich people usually complain about anyway , but most of all was just a game those interested got elsewhere already
That's kind of what I was pointing out in my post, my friend; they were just relying on what sells elsewhere instead of making an effort to cater to what they >have< to know is an entirely different fanbase by now. It's like trying to sell a steak to a vegetarian; it's insultingly clear that the seller doesn't have any clue what kind of product they need to present in order to garner the attention and sales they want out of their target audience. Ubisoft needs to change what they're trying to sell, if they want profit from all three current-gen home consoles instead of just two. I actually like Zombie U, but even I have to admit that it's got some serious flaws that a sequel could have fixed. But they've given up on that before it could even GET a sequel. The AC ports were poorly optimized, as well; lower framerates were a consistent theme, and the delays and cut content didn't help issues any. Their Wii efforts were better than their Wii U efforts thus far, overall, and that's really saying something, because we KNOW they can do better than that. At this point, I gotta say that I put more trust in Platinum Games than I do in Ubisoft. If Nintendo fans pushed hard enough, we might be able to get a Madworld sequel on the Wii U, or maybe even a Bayonetta-type deal with the Vanquish series.[sequel comes to the Wii U alongside the first one, all on Nintendo's dime] Platinum is probably one of Nintendo's brightest stars right now; certainly more-so than Ubisoft.
I find it dubious , and wishful thinking to chalk it up to some better taste or standards from the owners . Plenty of the owners already got another system that cover those needs while enjoying the WIi U's own ecosystem . In those cases , in the hypothetical event you'd get say a popular fps franchise releasing at the same time everywhere and with at least an equally good version , with already an ecosystem of online friends already gravitating toward one particular platform ... you're not going to ditch it and go solo , in honor of supporting the game on wii u . Nor will some people give up on their dlcs , and game scores and achievements
Yes but not everyone has more than one console, I bought my WiiU because I wanted Zelda, Smashbros, Mariokart, Star fox, maybe a new metroid, AND because it had assassins creed. I considered a ps4 or Xbone but ultimately decided in a wiiU for nintendo's exclusives and because I saw it had all the big third party games. Putting two games of AC then just leaving us in the dust just because it wasn't a runaway success on the platform is just plain dumb. That was all before I really realized that gaming is really just a business and only thing the companies really care about is the $$. they don't seem to give a damn about their customers. Shoot I need more bubbles haha
Thing is ... platinum can afford those games "flopping" . They are funded by Nintendo , wich is probably happy to take the hit for the sake of a diverse and more attractive portfollio . Actual Publisher can't afford that and will stay in their comfort zone , when they feel the base got its set of quirks and stuff that wont sell there . Look at Capcom , they've got no issue releasing a proven commodity on Nintendo consoles such as Monster Hunter , but you wont see any venture from them like Zakand wiki , nor will you see their other franchise like Street Fighter or Dead Rising , or Dragon Dogma and other stuff on Wii U
I've owned a Wii U since launch and maybe played 7 times with it... Sure hope it turns around soon, just waiting for Bayonetta 2 to turn this baby on again.
I own pretty much Ever game from ubisoft on wii u. Except just dance.
I'm not surprised. AC4 was rubbish. Pretty but rubbish. I got more of a challenge getting up in the morning.
well i am a Wii U owner and have no more interested in the Assassin's Creed series and just most ubisoft games aside from maybe the new far cry and rainbow 6
So basically what he's saying is "we screwed you over in the past by delaying certain games for no good reason, our launch title (zombleu) was a glitch fest and the other AC we released was boring as all hell but it's all everyone else's fault that they didn't sell well". I haven't looked it up I a while but last time I checked Just Dance wasn't a big seller either.
I bought both Assassin's Creed games on the Wii U, and haven't bought any Just Dance games. I guess me, and most of my friends list must be in the minority.
Yeah it's nothing to do with all them wii u owners you shafted around launch with their exclusive game that went multi format and instead of just releasing for wii u and letting them have it a few months early you delayed it so it could be ported to every console under the sun... Do one, I'll buy blag flag but it'll be for ps4 once this years new (2) iterations arrive, full price for an Ubisoft game, no ta. They shafted wii u I swerve them better stuff being made elsewhere anyway. They should have dropped assassins from current gen and had a year off or just gone next gen but nah, churn churn churn show me the money.
I find it funny Ubisoft is still trying to make themselves look good. 1. Raymon Got delayed for no reason 2. Assasins Creed games don't get publicity or any push until the game is released oh yeah no DLC. While people judge Wii U fans unfairly think about this when you get a game ported that has been out for a year to 3 years and it's glitchy with low frame rate, no DLC, Graphics aren't more polished, Missing content. You got to be out of your mind if you think I am spending 60 bucks on that mess. Then You give us a game where the thought was good but it wasn't carried out right because the game was another game. Oh Wii U owners don't buy the dance games Wii owners do. I will continue to support a developer that gives me good games.
' it's glitchy with low frame rate, no DLC, Graphics aren't more polished' That would be the fault of the hardware. Instead of blaming the devs, how about you ask Nintendo why they insist on releasing consoles with some of the weakest hardware imaginable.
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