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Submitted by jelani435 376d ago | opinion piece

The Underwhelming Evolution of Paper Mario

Nintendo has a fine tuned process when it comes to developing their pre-existing franchises. Watching a Nintendo franchise through the years is like watching a child star grow up. You don’t have any control over the situation, yet you find yourself hoping they don’t destroy themselves. New Super Mario Bros grew up to be a wildly popular and entertaining performer that I’m slightly tired of seeing so often, while Metroid was a beloved entertainer until he mysteriously went missing four years ago. Bear with me with this analogy here, but the Mario and Luigi, and the Paper Mario Series are like two fraternal twins who try a little too hard to be different by developing unnecessary traits in an attempt to distinguish oneself. Over the past decade, the Mario and Luigi series appears that it has found it’s niche in the market, while Paper Mario’s recent added features such as stickers detract from what originally made the series great.

This article talks about the de-evolution of paper... (3DS, Next-Gen, Paper Mario, Retro, Wii, Wii U)

Starbucks_Fan  +   376d ago
I wonder if we will ever see a game as good as Thousand Year Door :/
Kevlar009  +   376d ago
There are games, but no Mario RPG has come close since (though I really enjoyed Bowser Inside Story).

Nintendo's doing like what they did with Star Fox, trying to reinvent a series that was was still high quality and fresh that didn't need reinventing.

The recent Paper Mario games rely a little too much on gimmicks I don't feel transition well after a few hours, eventually you want to go back to the original format
Pisque  +   376d ago
Good question. But no.
youndamie  +   376d ago
My favorite GameCube game, even better then Smash Bros Melee.
linkenski  +   375d ago
I also wonder if Zelda will ever be as good as it was before TP anytime soon again :/
ExiledBlitz  +   374d ago
Did you play A Link Between Worlds? It's my favorite Zelda since OOT and Link's Awakening.
Metallox  +   376d ago
The Thousand Year Door is a masterpiece and for me the most solid game that the GameCube has to offer. Not many games in the console had that charming storyline, memorable characters, amazing gameplay and even very good visuals. And if you played it as a kid, it's a huge plus. The most enjoyable RPG I have ever played on a Nintendo console. Such a shame not many people often take it seriously because it features elements of the Mario franchise.

A few years later Super Paper Mario came out, but its focus on platforming really underwhelmed me. It's not that I disliked it, it's very good, but you know, I prefer the RPG essence.

And then Sticker Star came out... I don't really like this game at all. It's the same argument of Super Mario games but just with stickers. Come on. For that I have the real Mario games. The combat is bad and the puzzles feel uninspired.

I hope Intelligent Systems takes back the real feeling of Paper Mario for Wii U, if they ever make a game for it.
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Concertoine  +   376d ago
Sticker Star is crap.

I think one of the biggest problems with that game aside from the totally bonkers combat, is that they gave Bowser NO DIALOGUE. He was the funniest character in all the Mario rpg's, and they took all that out and just made him silent. Then they replaced the interesting stories of Super Paper Mario and TYD with "oooh there's a festival but bowser crashes it" for the millionth time. Gee, how thrilling.

I heard they did it because Miyamoto wanted it to be more like the platformers. Don't get me wrong, i love Miyamoto but devs need to learn when to tell him he's being an idiot. Like when Dinosaur Planet became a Star Fox game.

A classic Paper Mario game in 1080p that's actually an RPG, though? I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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LOL_WUT  +   376d ago
Paper Mario for the N64 is my favorite I liked everything about it I can't express how badly I would like to play it again or a newer sequel. ;)
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   376d ago
Thousand year door is my favorite MArio and Gamecube game. Really hope we see a return to that style.
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Nerdmaster  +   376d ago
I sold my Super Paper Mario copy without finishing it, and I only played Sticker Star for a few hours. I guess this franchise is over for me.
jelani435  +   375d ago
lol
Armadilo21  +   375d ago
The Underwhelming Evolution of Mario in General like it's 2014 and we still Mario just jumping, like seriously what Mario can't do anything else ?
johny5  +   375d ago
Nothing's able to replace Mario RPG Legend of the Seven Stars. Still the best Mario RPG till this date, and I believe being a prototype to Final Fantasy 7 has something to do with it?
Lighter9  +   375d ago
Well, now that Nintendo has patched things up with Square, (and has had it patched for awhile) they should get crackin on Super Mario RPG already!
Genova84  +   375d ago
Posted my comment before I saw yours. So true. It's probably in the top 10, or at least 20 RPGs of all time.
Nerdmaster  +   375d ago
Mario & Luigi series is so much better than Super Mario RPG...
jelani435  +   375d ago
Should I get Thousand Year Door or the original console or just wait for an HD Remake?
IonDestroy  +   375d ago
I wouldn't really hold my breath for an hd remake. It MIGHT happen but tbh this is a game that still looks gorgeous to this day (I was just playing it yesterday on an HDTV and it still looks really good). There's a lot of copies of the game floating around on ebay and flea markets (IIRC it had both a players choice reprint and was bundled with the gamecube towards the end of its life), I'm sure you can find one for a reasonable price (maybe under 10 bucks). Best of luck to you, and I hope you enjoy the game as much as I did :)
Genova84  +   375d ago
Super Mario RPG was amazing and all Mario RPGs since haven't lived up to it.
IonDestroy  +   375d ago
2005 was such a magical time to be a kid for me, I played Superstar Saga and The Thousand Year Door together. Both excellent games and they're probably the ones that I replay the most. Sometimes I wish I could go back to those days, when Nintendo wasn't afraid of taking risks. Both games were funny, and I mean really funny. I think the best comparison of the Mario games of the past with the ones of today is Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2. Galaxy 2 had tight gameplay and lots of challenge to have fun with, but for some reason it was so... Clean and sterile compared to 1. Nintendo seems to be going in the other direction now with their recent games, so I hope that they can bring back the soul that made these two so great.

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