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Gamedaily: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Review - 8/10

Gamedaily writes: "Snake's swan song is a beautiful and intense tour de force, marred only by preachy dialogue and decent shooting.

Tactical Espionage Action arrives on PlayStation 3, courtesy of Konami's long-awaited Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, which brings an end to one of video game's most memorable characters, mercenary Solid Snake, who is a gray haired old man. An army of gorgeous cut scenes and a beautiful score highlight this memorable third person adventure, which ties up loose ends while weaving new characters and plot twists into the Metal Gear mythos. It's a long-winded tour of duty that, despite its somewhat bland gameplay, offers an unrivaled cinematic experience.

Snake's adventure begins in the war-torn Middle East, where he slithers through battles in search of his evil twin, the nefarious Liquid, who inhabits the body of MGS villain Revolver Ocelot. In order to kill him, Snake must sneak past or engage hundreds of foot soldiers, as well as vanquish expertly designed boss characters, including Vamp (from Metal Gear Solid 2) and the twisted Beauty and the Beast Corps, four terrifying ladies with signature abilities. He gets help from his friend and techo genius, Otacon, who provides Snake with advice and equipment, most notably the delightful OctoCamo, which changes color in real time and blends into the environment. Along the way, he runs into old friends, makes new ones and uncovers more plot twists than a daytime soap." (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, PS3) 8/10

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Mc187  +   2135d ago
I've said it before
If you don't like the game to begin with don't review it.
@ fork, pathetic failure the game is great I actually am playing and I don't play crap games except for a few drunken nights with Gears
your just pissed you weren't here in time to troll properly looks like you fail again (god 12 year olds are hilarious)
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fork_the_lad  +   2135d ago
I feel sorry for you guys

cuz websites and maguzunes like Gamestm and gamedaily love xbox. i like gamstm lot. I liek magazine

they have very little coverage of PS3 though
theKiller  +   2135d ago
sad try to damage this game
they should play more shooter games i think!! in fact they should only review shooting games!
BulletToothtony  +   2135d ago
They didn't like the shooting system... They said is not like other shooters...
i guess they didn't get the memo that mgs4 is not a shooter, it's a tactical game..

Everything that this guy said he didn't like.. it's what makes the mgs series so great.. and everything he didn't like it's what i absolutely love.. and every mgs fan as well...

It's extremely obvious that he had never played an mgs game before, but that's ok.. not everyone likes this style of game.. too bad they made him review the game and not someone who knew what tha hell is going on...

i think some reviewers were just in a rush to finish it so they can write the review and they simply don't enjoy the game.. i'm loving every minute of it and i already have 9 hours of gameplay.. don't have 1 complain so far..
Bladestar  +   2135d ago
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"If you don't like the game to begin with don't review it. " ehhh... come again!? If you like the game how can you give a fair review? If I like iron man the game does that mean it deserves a 10/10?

no... but seriously I know what you are saying... Metal Gear is metal gear... and on my book before Kojima started the whole console bashing it would be a 10/10... but if I would to review the game I would still give it a 9.5/10... the game itself deserves it.

But I still stick to what I said before... Metal Gear is not for everyone... for people that are not into cut-scenes and the type of gameplay that metal gear offers which is specific to metal gear fans this game is not good... which explain why the game never had a demographic like other games like GTA...

Sadly... Metal Gear will be reviewed for the masses since there is no such thing as Metal Gear fan review only...

I'll say, for Metal Gear fans this game gets a 10/10.
For non-metal gear fans a 7/10.
for people like me that are still angry at Kojima for being such a blu-ray leg humper and xbox 360 hater... a 9/10.
kingme71  +   2135d ago
BladeStar,
Which parts of the game did you like/not like and what act are you up to?
BulletToothtony  +   2135d ago
@ bladestar
hey dude did you end up buying a ps3? you said a few days ago you were thinking about it?? seems like you tried mgs4...

and i don't consider myself an mgs hardcore fan.. i actually picked up mgs2 about 8 months ago and i loved the game.. it's just a well made game...

and like you said, a 9.5 it's a pretty good score.. a well deserved score.. i think it's a 10 to an mgs fans, but to the general public.. i think a 9.3 - 9.5 it describes a good score for the game..

I'm not a fanboy, and i was expecting an awesome game.. i was pretty sure i was gonna be let down, and to my surprise my expectations were highly overpassed..

all the items, the weapon customization it just adds to the way you get immersed in the game.. and even if you don't like the style of gameplay people should still realize that the game is very well made, it has way more things than other games do.

they should at least have that into consideration, but when they go and give Grid a 9 and mgs4 an 8 that's also not right, (not saying that grid is a bad game) but come on, they have to realize that mgs4 it's a more complete game..
iHEARTboobs  +   2135d ago
Yeah i agree if you don't like these types of games or any other MGS games you shouldn't review it. That goes for all games. If you're not into the genre, you shouldn't be reviewing games from it. MGS isn't going to be for everyone. If you're not willing to put in the time, it's not for you.
XBOX 360  +   2135d ago
Hey look, Bladestar has a problem with Kojima like the PS3 over the 360, but has no problem with Itagaki hating the PS3.

Yet he claims to be a "Gamer" and "unbiased"

Hidden Fanboyism ftw.
Bladestar  +   2135d ago
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I didn't buy it... and not going to... I still want those NPD numbers to reflect my opinion about what Kojima did... I know I'm just one.. but not the only one.. but it does add up you know... Who knows maybe I will wait and buy a used one... ;) or borrow it from a friend.

Question for you... how does it feel that the most anticipated game on the PS3 is getting a 8's.. and to make things worst... that's not a mass market as you thought it was?

@XBOX 360 - says, the one with a RROD picture... mmm.. .anyways.. Itakari did not add PS3 bashing to his game.. he just had an opinion.. he does not have an agenda to bash other consoles... Kojima on the other hand added to this game which does not contribute to the game. How many times did kojima proved that he favores the PS3? did I have a problem with it? No.. but when a developer dirty their work with non-game related opinions... then their game becomes their opinion... so if I don't agree with their game/opinion then I just don't accept it/ buy it... simple as that... I would say the same if NG2 would say, "Did you know Sony sucks... loading please wait...".
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BulletToothtony  +   2135d ago
i don't know if you were asking me but i'll answer
well to be perfectly honest, if what they were saying was true, and i found the cutscenes to be painful... and the gameplay to be bad, and full of glitches and flaws i would be pretty pissed,

like i said up there everything that those 8* reviewers didn't like i loved so to me i can care less.. about 90% of reviews have given them 95% or higher so that says a lot.. i mean even halo3 got some 7/10 but that didn't stop people from enjoying it..

The truth is that mgs4 it's a good game, it's very enjoyable and it's the best single player game i've every played, multiplayer still goes to cod4.. still play it a lot..

and about not reaching the masses well i don't care about that, i think it's gonna sell some ps3's and i don't care if i was the only person who bought the game.. i love it and that's what matter to me the most..
OmegaKulu  +   2135d ago
@Bladestar
question, what does NPD numbers gota do with your personal opinion? If you actually want to play the games on there, NPD should mean nothing at all. NPD numbers are only for fanboys and investors.

So what MGS4 got a 8/10 scores? some people just dont like MGS, the install or the long videos.
At least it's better than a game being hyped so much that reviewers are obligated to give a game 10/10.(Halo3 was good but no way in hell it's better than COD4)
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ShAkKa  +   2135d ago
is not that they don`t like mgs,is that they hate the ps3 so all ps3 exclusives will get some bs reviews from that crappy website.
Ju  +   2135d ago
unrelated, but some say, according to May NPD# PS3 outsold the 360. What now B* ?
fork_the_lad  +   2135d ago
Gamedaily are own by same company that own this website

Future.us, future is an american comp and we amaerican love XBOX. no space for japanese consoles. Like the japanese say, american love shootign and killing and this game sucks cuz it has none of it

If 1 future website gives it an 8 than the rest give similiar score....

Future owns

Gamdedaily 8
Games Tm 8
Eurogamer 8
Edge 8
Gamedaily 9

I fel sorry for PS3 fans that thought it was the best game ever. I would give it a 6.5 being gernous . I love Gamestm becuase they love xbox.
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LJWooly  +   2135d ago
Haha, that was unintentionally funny to read.
JackBauerIsHIGH  +   2135d ago
WTF Fork...
How can you even give any imput on this game considering you do not have a PS3? I though you bought one just to piss on it and then returned it shortly after?

Whatever you say champ...
BulletToothtony  +   2135d ago
about time this guy gets moved to the not too much common sense and trolling zone..
how many days does someone have to troll in order to get moved there??

i'll never understand the need to go troll, it's really sad, and it's obvious that is done out of jealousy... it's ok buddy.. keep telling yourself this game sucks so you can feel ok about your choice of console
Diselage  +   2135d ago
Future does not own this site, they do have investments but that in no way translates to ownership.
Syronicus  +   2134d ago
@ fork_the_lad
Why bother posting such flame bait? Does this make you feel better to flame in a thread where it is unnecessary to do so? Please, visit the Open Zone, your friends miss you there.
Spike47  +   2135d ago
Biased BS!!!
WOW seriously these guys have lost all their trust from me.

giving MGs4 an 8/10 is like saying " I am another immature xbox360 troll"
jessupj  +   2135d ago
Well there's goes another site on my 'has absolutely no credibilty' list. It's sad really, before this generation there wasn't really much bias in reviews. Now it seems like you have to swin through a sea of crap to find that one genuin, unbias fish.
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Silogon  +   2135d ago
Mgs4 doesn't have anything on One Life to Live, dare they compare to my day time soaps! Truth is, these shills are morons and will always be in the back of the line begging to grow an inch taller so they can ride the big kid rides by the time they reach the front of it.

P.S. I'd put Todd Manning up against Snake anyday, though. ;-)

Edit to the below: I don't know what's more pathetic, you for thinking I was serious or the fact that you think soap operas should induce such a rage that you'd ridicule someone over them.

Pretty damn sad.
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fork_the_lad  +   2135d ago
Soaps suck gay facker or you a girl?
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Shadow Man  +   2135d ago
Can somebody ban fork_the_lad he is being an aZZHOLE to everybody. I don't think he is a ps3or360 fan.

Get a life dude. and stop sending me PM with your other accounts
fork_the_lad  +   2135d ago
Im a nintendo fanboy motherfunky. Look at my jacet. It has Zelda on it111111111

And i not send u message. you are useless person. Why do you even wake up in the morning
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heyheyhey  +   2135d ago
for the last time

YOUR NOT FUNNY

EDIT: *sigh*

15 years of age?
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fork_the_lad  +   2135d ago
AND YOUR THE CUM YOUR MOTHER SHUD HAV SWALLOWED

Ask your mother what sex position makes the ugliest baby....

You should have been terminated at birth and thrown away. Like the doctor said when u wer born. "this cud get ugly"

edit: i was lying when i said am 15 or 16 or whatever i said
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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi  +   2135d ago
@fork_the_lad
'Ask your mother what sex position makes the ugliest baby....'???

Well your Mum said just look at your Photo!!! ;-D
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whoknew  +   2135d ago
the PS3 sucks because it has no games, the only good game is Genji, but even that's worse than Halo 3- MGS4 is toasted turd, lol 93 on meta what a flop jeez
IzKyD1331  +   2135d ago
@ fork the lad
your not cool so stop trying
riqued  +   2135d ago
The guy wants more shooting... This is a stealth game!!
Mc187  +   2135d ago
Exactly
this is stealth action not a shooter.
Rom828  +   2135d ago
Don't get bent over reviews...
Enjoy the ride!

This game is for the hardcore MGS fans. Reviews are opinions, nothing more.

I personally would NOT care if the reviews were low. I will still enjoy this game for many, many hours.

"Evil is powerful. But courage is Solid!"
VirusE  +   2135d ago
Well said ROM
Ninja-Sama  +   2135d ago
Check out the Game Informer review instead...
Its much better. Dont give these Gamedaily noobs ne hits.
IzKyD1331  +   2135d ago
gamedaily, you just lost ALL your credibility......
fork_the_lad  +   2135d ago
Not to me they havnt
VirusE  +   2135d ago
Yeah i know it’s crazy! Having a different opinion from the rest of the heard is intolerable. Eff personal preference everyone should like only what people who only own ps3s like. I hate single system owners and i hope you all die for ruining this site and for ruining gaming in general.
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LJWooly  +   2135d ago
While I welcome difference of opinion, were you being serious on that last sentence, VirusE? I couldn't really tell...
Azures  +   2135d ago
Virus is a fanboy about hating on fanboys. Its an ironic existence lol.
VirusE  +   2135d ago
Azures check my profile dumb dumb. I own both, wanna see a picture? What is your 360 tag and PSN tags?

If you dont own both and are bash the one you dont own you are hardly objective.

LJWooly
The multi system owners are not a problem on this site or on gaming forums in general. Its the guys with one system that cause all the issues. I wasn't being serious with my comment but i am getting tired of singles system owners under the age of 24 as they are burden on the rest of us.
kingme71  +   2135d ago
Unfortunately, Fork The Lad ran out of bubbles.

"I fel sorry for PS3 fans that thought it was the best game ever. I would give it a 6.5 being gernous"

Maybe we can be gernous and give him some more.
Polluted  +   2135d ago
Jeez, sorry Virus for not having $700 to spend on a 360 and a wii. Guess we can't be friends... :-(
Azures  +   2135d ago
Virus i didn't call you biased, I said you're a fanboy on hating fanboys. All of them.

Please read with comprehension.
LJWooly  +   2135d ago
Well, if you think that people are a problem when they don't have the means to own more than one system, you ceratinly are misinformed, and somewhat of a problem yourself.

By the way, owning more than one system does not instantly clear you of fanboy status. TheMART owns, and thouroughly enjoys, a PSP. Does that mean he loves Sony and Microsoft equally? No, of course it doesn't, and to assume that would be nothing short of stupid.
jessupj  +   2135d ago
A review is a diffrent kind of opinion. The reviewer is suppose to be objective and unbias, even if he doesn't like that type of game. He is suppose to give us his opinion based on the facts he has, not based on his stupid fanboyish state of mind. So please don't go on about 'I didn't know it was a crime to have a different opinion to the rest of the world'. It's ok to have a different opinion, just be objective and open minded about it.
Xi  +   2135d ago
damage control much?
it's just a review.

And People that don't like the game should get the chance to review it, just as much as those that love the series. I mean they did the same thing with Halo 3.

If every game was reviewed by people who only like the franchise, every game would score 9-10 all the time.
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juuken  +   2135d ago
...They better have a good reason why they gave this game an 8/10.
edit: *reads review* They're full of it. Plain and simple. Now, if you'll excuse me Gamedaily, I have a MGS4 guide to look through before I get to play this masterpiece.
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Skaterboy Tell Em  +   2135d ago
MGS4 gets an 8/10 but yet two of the most overhyped/overrated games in the history of videogames (GTA4,halo 3) get higher scores.... Ridiculous!
Xi  +   2135d ago
maybe...
that tells you something about mgs4.

edit,

All I'm saying is that maybe you shouldn't compare the game to gta4 and halo3. Maybe those games have something that mgs4 doesn't or vice versa. Maybe they are just as deserving as the scores they got as the scores mgs is getting.
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Azures  +   2135d ago
the 10s and 9.5s tell us something too, and so far their are way more of them.
Bladestar  +   2135d ago
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It's not ridiculous... which games are over hyped depends who you ask...
It's not how good a game is within a very specific demographic but the ability of a game to capture a larger demographic... I am not sure why many of you thought that everyone was going to received metal gear with 10/10 and open arms when none of the previous metal gears did... NOT EVERYONE LIKE METAL GEAR... but the people that play metal gear love it. FPS like Halo tend to be played an accepted by a larger demographics since it point and shoot... just like COD, battle field, resistance... regardless of how well the game is made... it's like American football... that does well in the US but poorly in Japan...

I said it before and I will say it again.. if you though that Metal Gear was going to be the PS3's Halo or Gears.. you were in for a surprise... I personally feel that the game deserves a 9-10/10.. but I have friends that hate metal gear and would give the game a 5/10... and would never play it...
Azures  +   2135d ago
But why is Halo touted as a 10?

Is a 10 thats only popular in America better than a 9.3 popular worldwide?
Xi  +   2135d ago
maybe
halo really did deserve the 10's it got. I sure thought it was worth the 10's.
ip-student  +   2135d ago
Halo was a 7 -
for the single player (but pretty tough if you ramped up the difficult). But the multiplayer made it a 10 - it was a blast. Of course, if you don't like multiplayer then Halo was a 7. Same with MGS4 - if you don't like cut scenes and losing control, then MGS4 is at most an 8 (you would just play the first part and then walk away).
wallace1000  +   2135d ago
@ Azures
Why do you think halo 3 is only popular in the US? It sold very well here in Canada and i have played with lots of people online outside the US. The majority of my friends are actually Canadian, American, and British.
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Azures  +   2135d ago
Wasn't this review published like a week ago? Why is it showing up here now? I've seen in on Gamerankings for a while now.

Answers please.
heyheyhey  +   2135d ago
lol your too late to stop MGS4 with your crappy, biased review

everyone who's played it has loved it- hard luck

maybe you can try and give your 6/10 for God of War3 or something before the game comes out?
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wangdiddy82  +   2135d ago
like i said before
only people who will hate on this game is people who honestly never liked metal gear. And if you dont like metal gear than i dont see how you can call yourself a true gamer or a game reviewer at that.. This game is definitely one of the best games ever made..

People who gave halo3 or gta4 a 10 should lose there reviewing privilages.. I hate how all these medicore and storyless games get so many good reviews while great games with awesome stories (uncharted) get medicore reviews.. anyway My friend last night who is all about halo and gears and 360 said he is buying a ps3 now after he saw me playing this game this morning after we picked it up from gamestop. this game is unreal and the story is unreal.. and im only on act 1 still.. lol

I mean in all honestly how can someone give halo 3 a 10???? cod4 has a better multi player and halo3 was just plain cheesy compared to halo 1 and 2. And how can you give gta4 a perfect 10 when the game gets so boring after awhile you just dont want to play it anymore?

Game reviewers are the devil and i honestly dont know what they think in there little brains when they review some games..
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Killzownz84  +   2135d ago
8 is actually accurate..
I know you guys are really going to hate me, let me start by saying that im a PS3 supporter until the end and I love my PS3 and think its currently the best console.. BUT i have to say that when I got home and played MGS4 I did have the somewhat same disappointed feeling I had when I played GTA IV.. I just dont know what it is, back in the day i was obsessed with both the GTA and MGS franchise but now they just dont do much for me anymore.. I mean MGS4 is a great game no doubt but compared to other games this gen, I think it is a solid 8.5 game.

Again, im not saying this because im a fanboy that hates the PS3, I love the PS3 very much but MGS and GTA Just doesnt do it for me anymore.
Azures  +   2135d ago
Please provide proof of what games this gen it doesn't stack up with, because you'd be hard pressed to find any.
AwRy108  +   2135d ago
GameDaily Is Biased
I've seen quite a few articles from GameDaily.com, and 99% of them make it obvious that the site is heavily biased towards the XBox 360.
Pp p  +   2135d ago
About time someones given a decent score
Irishrocket69  +   2135d ago
Expect
many more like this now that people are allowed to review it!
ICUP  +   2135d ago
I just got my copy today, installing right now. ^__^
rosebowl23  +   2135d ago
And of course this review is going to go right up on metacritic while all the other 10/10 and 9.5/10 reviews that have been out for days still havn't been added.

I think it's messeed up that these damn magazines are hating on the PS3 so much. It's obvious by now that there is something going on. When all the same reviewers that gave Halo 3 a perfect 10 give MGS4 8s... that's when you know something is up.
wangdiddy82  +   2135d ago
the gave ng2 a 9
so there saying ninja gaiden 2 is better than mgs4.. lol ok that just shows you these guys dont know what a good game is
BlueBadger  +   2135d ago
I read the review a bit., but knew I would laugh because.....
"Snake's swan song is a beautiful and intense tour de force, marred only by preachy dialogue and decent shooting."

First of all.....does this person even know what is a "tour de force"? Ugh. It can't be a tour de force if it's "marred" by certain stand out characteristics. A tour de force doesn't get an "8/10".

Also, as someone pointed out, what the hell is "decent shooting" have to do with MGS4? Really? That might be an issue with some people (people who I would question why they're playing this game), but then again, u dont necessarily have to be SHOOTING any one person, much less engaging in all out warfare.

Really, I would really want to someday see a copy of the rubric these people score by. Seriously, I think most numbers are some guess-timation of where they think it deserves.
Peow  +   2135d ago
This game deserves a 15.
This is my first MGS(Getting the Essential Collection soon) and I must say it's just.... awesome! It.. it.. I can't believe how awesome it is. I'm only through act 2 and I can't get enough of it. The controls take a little getting used to since I'm used to COD4 but once you get used to them it's fun.

This game deserves well over an 8/10
Azures  +   2135d ago
This is getting ugly, and it really shows how detrimental this site (N4G) can become.

I'm gonna go play MGS4, have fun arguing.
Monty_The_Great  +   2135d ago
bu..bu..bu..but M$ paid them off to give MGS4 a bad score. I hate how when a game gets a freakin 8 out of 10 its considered bad. Geez, get over yourselves, not every game you think is great is great. Reviews are one person's opinion on that particular game. Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one.
Coke-a-Cola  +   2135d ago
I will try not to be disappointed by some of these low scores ..........
I am only 7 hours into this game and i suppose I could change my mind by the end but so far it is the Most sensual drama i have ever witnessed .

Everyone is so different .
tk  +   2135d ago
Latest MGS4 Review
2/10
The physics of the driving is not to the standard of Forza. Really bad. We give it a 2.
TL24  +   2135d ago
Right....
These guys are a joke... I guess they didn't know that MGS4 isn't a shoorter! Fawkin idiots... Besides that I just bought the game but i'm still at work, so when i get home it's MGS4 time for me!
pumpkinpunker  +   2135d ago
Excessive cut-scenes are a valid complaint
It is completely silly to have a long cutscene then a 15 second section where you actually do something and then another long cut scene. It's like they knew people would complain about 90 minute cut scenes so they interspersed brief action sequences. I am sure originally these brief action sequences were not in the game and they just put them there to avoid the, "OMG!11! 90 minute cutscene WTF?/?" reaction.
PoSTedUP  +   2135d ago
if a game like this drops below an 9.0, then you automatically know something is up. people are getting sick of sony coming in first every generation. their trying to give the 360 more credit. who cares what critics say. ps3 games rarely get good scores from major reviewers/review sites. just play the games, its obviously really really good no matter what an old mature knowing nothing about video games critic has to say.
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