OnlySP: CD Projekt RED has issued a statement following the less then desirable reaction to the Xbox One version of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt obtaining some exclusive items in its version of the collectors edition.
How so? Microsoft has been promoting the game at every event, they're offering the game DRM free on PC and this is the first Witcher entry to even appear on a Playstation platform. These guys are some of the best and most sincere devs around and they're getting shit on for giving something back to the company that has promoted them the most? I understand the want for parity across platforms, but even so this doesn't warrant the comments that CD Projekt is getting one bit. Especially for their past history.
I completely agree....I really wish I had money to support these guys I would buy the collectors edition...they are a really good developer
"and they're getting shit on for giving something back to the company that has promoted them the most?" Yet they talk about treating all platforms equally? Come on, you can't say something like that and then do this, it's contradicting. It makes you look bad, so it's their fault at the end of the day. If Microsoft have been promoting this at all their gaming events then that's up to Microsoft, CD Projekt would still have a choice when it comes to their game on what to do with it. You should never have exclusive goodies in collectors editions when everyone is paying the same price for it. It's bad enough we've got to the point we're pre order or exclusive content in game is accepted, obviously we don't accept it as gamers but it still happens because that's what developers/publishers think.
-Foxtrot, From the things I've read, they're trying to make the same GAME experience. Nowhere did they ever say that Collector's Edition would be the exact same across all platforms. Plus, they have time to announce more stuff. People took that console parity to the extreme without going into specifics of what it actually meant to CD Projekt RED. They are a far cry from what we've come to expect from the normal developer or publisher nowadays. These little items in the Collector's Edition is being blown WAY out of porportion simply because it's coming to the Xbox platform. I own both consoles, I've got no bias towards either. Both sides of the spectrum have gotten their fair share of exclusive content over the years. No company is perfect, and if Microsoft has been promoting the game the most, I personally think it's fine that the XB1 version is getting a little something extra. Do I agree with it, not really, but I see why it's happening. And those fans that really want that Collector's Edition will still buy it either way. And there's CERTAINLY a better way to go about these things then what people are doing towards the developers. It's sick how people treat game developers for something like this.
I'm a PS4 owner and I see nothing wrong with this either. It only makes sense to give the company that promoted you on consoles a little something in return.
I don't get what the big deal is?? Has no effect on the actual game itself so freakin' relax. Not happy about the limited edition, then don't buy it. Simple.
So MS is paying the $$ to have a little something extra included in the box contents (not the game itself) and people are going bat crap crazy because they are not getting the same stuff in their preferred version. Actually...they are getting the same things. As it relates to the initial CE version. All 3 versions are getting the same game, the same statue, the same odds and ends. Its only the XB1 version that is getting a bonus gift from MICROSOFT...NOT CD Projekt. If collectors want to buy the XB1 version because of those extra trinkets, so be it. That doesnt mean that they cant buy the game itself for their preferred platform. In many cases that's what collectors do. They buy one for playing and one for displaying. No rule says the one for displaying MUST BE the same one for the preferred platform. It would not surprise me if the XB1 CE version sells more in spite of the low system sales. That would just prove the point of collectors buying it for all the stuff in the box more so than the game itself. It happens people...get over it.
Don't like it? Protest the game and don't buy it. Use the power of the purse.
Translation: Microsoft wrote a nice fat check. XBLSkull: Or just buy it used.
@tom...do people actually trade in their collectors editions complete? Or do you mean buy the collector edition (for the stuff) and then buy a used copy of just the game?
@pocky This is so sad. These same guys attacking this dev and starting up petitions online always feel they are entitled to everything out there. Cd projekt imo shouldn't have to explain themselves&its same with Crystal Dynamics. Sony has done some exclusive deals too yet we didn't see xbox fans flaming and sending death threats to the developers..yet its same people who ordered toys r us to bring down ads promoting xbox one..its same users who have destiny dlc for a year, farcry4 exclusive share functionality and batmans scare scrow exclusive game modes (forever)yet they are here's complaining abt physical exclusiv content. Its really embarrasing to see grown dudes act so pathetic..you like it? Then go get it on xbox. The witcher2 was on 360 and MS is partnering with them now,what's so difficut to understand? “ If you still consider that adding two decks of Gwent cards and a map of the in-game world to the Xbox One CE equals us betraying our values and not fulfilling our promises, well, it does make us sad, but the final call is always yours to make.” The choice is yours to make just as CD has stated above.. If the extra content makes you so envious and filled with hate then don't buy the game at all or you could suck up your bias and buy it on Xbox one. Its easy as abc. @lawboy Its really shameful. Can't believe these guys actually had to make a statement. Wow.
I played the first witcher on pc and gave up an hour into the game and the same with the second witcher..This franchise is an acquired taste and I think a lot of people who didn't play the first two won't be bothered to play this especially those with a ps4!.
All 3rd party exclusives Content deals need to DIE and this goes to Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo
Games have Collector Editions all the time with no other way of getting the contents. World of Warcraft does this with every expansion and even at events for pets. I believe there is nothing wrong with what CD Projekt is doing.
By the words of CD Project Red, "We are treating all gamers equally," says CD Projekt Red co-founder Marcin Iwinski. "We'll not deliver exclusive content to any of the platforms, nor will we artificially delay release of the game on any of the platforms because somebody's paying us money for that. It's definitely against our values. We are not doing that." Article link : http://www.escapistmagazine... What a bunch of hypocrites. They are also forgetting that PC gamers have been supporting them from the beginning as well.
@christrules... "We are treating all gamers equally," yes in regards to the game itself. "We'll not deliver exclusive content to any of the platforms" yes, in regards to the game itself. "nor will we artificially delay release of the game on any of the platforms because somebody's paying us money for that." yes, the game is releasing at the same time on the respected platforms. "It's definitely against our values. We are not doing that." and so far they have stayed true to their words. There is the regular version for PC, PS4 and XB1. There is the CE version for PC, PS4 and XB1. MS has added in a bonus gift that they paid to have made specifically for the XB1 CE. Sony could have done the same but they didn't. CDPR are staying true to their words and the game will be released accordingly. If you want to complain, complain to the other platforms for not adding in something special at their own expense.
From the overblown responses here, im guessing im in the minority when I say this: Well, there is always a little envy there for the things I cant get. I say cant because im a ps gamer and cant / wont get 2 consoles. Thing is, I never really buy CEs because all I want is the game that will be the same. Now, if all you want is to collect, im under the impression that collectors buy 2 copies of these things: a regular and a collectors edition. Even for the die hard ps fans, you always just buy the xone CE if all you want is to "collect it". The game is the same. Isnt that what really matters?
@fox: Where were you when we all pay the same, but PS4 is getting digital goodies on Watchdogs, Street Fighter Collector's edition and a host of other games? We all pay the same right? Heck, in many instances not everyone get the same experience, after all we aren't getting the same resolution, and frame rate either. We all pay the same right?
I predict if microsoft can't start to pull closer to ps4 and gap continues to widen, then MS would really really need to play serious money for exclusives that will end up with weak sales at least in comparison to ps4. Then ps4 will be getting all the best stuff and i wonder if the general tone then will be all 3rd party exclusives must die. MS still haven't affected a franchise i truly care about. I think the throwing money at devs thing just rubs ppl the wrong way.
Sensitive whiny gamers out there. This is exactly why nobody takes gamers seriously. ITS A GAME.
Lately there have been daily articles containing a game developer's apology to certain kind of gamers. Literally all people do now is complain, no, they actually sulk like little kids. The more game players sulk, the less serious they will be taken when it comes to games having some sort of pull in the real world. Announcement Sulk Apology - in that order.
"These guys are some of the best and most sincere devs around and they're getting shit on for giving something back to the company that has promoted them the most?" Have you considered that, up until the Witcher 3, Sony weren't even given a chance to promote Witcher games? Rewarding a company for promoting you by granting its userbase exclusive content just because of said promotion just completely ignores the fact that you never gave the other company any chance to do the same. This is just part of the same exclusive content B.S. that people always flip flop on whenever it benefits them, forgetting that it benefits no one.
@ Foxtrot I've seen you on every article about this so I got these for you http://www.maxconsole.com/m...
I posted this on the articles page and it was deleted, so I re posted on his page and now I am posting here. Pre order items are free and it's up to the individual weather or where they want to get them. Exclusive DLC is almost always timed and every platform gets eventually and in most cases for free. Collectors edition of games are very expensive and most people that buy them buy them for the physical items. They are charging every one the same Price Of $149.99 but two platforms , the PC and Playstaion 4, are not getting the Extra 5 to 10 dollars worth of content. Like I said it's not like time exclusive DLC where every one gets it eventually, people who buy the PC version do not get the addition content sent to them six moth down the road. This whole deal seams kinda stupid to me, it's not going to sell more consoles , they don't even make that many of them. Most of time they end not selling them all and a couple months later can be found for considerably less than retail. I have gotten most of my collectors editions for much less than retail. plus The Witcher 2 CE had poor packaging and many people ended up with broken statues( go the the games forums and you will see for yourself). This move only gains them something with Xbox fanboys, I can't see it making much difference in console sales or game sales. The ones that defend this deal with Cdproject and Microsoft are many of the same people that bitch to no end about Destiny (Bunji) deal with PS4. The difference is that they are not excluded from the game by the deal and they will eventually get the Exclusive DLC. With The Witcher 2 PC and PS4 gamers will never get the extra content in the CE and have to pay the same price. With the New Tomb raider game people are being excluded, people that bought the game at a higher rate than on the console that has exclusivity. plus Pc and Playstion are the platforms the game is more associated with.
Yep, hypocrites. Such hate against Microsoft. Unbelievable. Everything that Microsoft does, people start complaining and bit**ing. If Sony does the same thing, everything good... but when it's Microsoft... all hell breaks loose. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be part of this gaming world. Everyone thinks we are crybaby's, always moaning about something. CD Projekt RED are great developers that deserve our support. As for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, PC version for me without a doubt. EDIT: @PockyKing Yep. Nintendo paid for Bayonetta 2 development, and there were still people complaining that it's not multiplatform. * shakes head *
There's always a group that's not happy about something that's exclusive though. Bayonetta 2 ring any bells?
What about when Xbox fanboys were moaning about how bungie betrayed them, and how the season pass should be cheaper on Xbox? Fanboys exist on both sides and complaining definitely exists on both sides. I personally don't find this particular issue that bad. I'd rather Xbox get some trading cards than exclusive dlc any day
You damn right its a problem. CD were the ones who promised no special favors. We see it all the time but if you say you are different, be different.We have Microsoft to thank for injecting cash into everything like its the answer to everthing. But CD was right, the final decision is in our hands.
I don't care about Microsoft or what big red did in the past, this is about people being ok with inequality from a dev that apparently used to have a better reputation. From their excuse this just seems to be a lazy way to get more publicity, they should've just stuck to making great games and thinking up better ways to market them. They should stop with this 'political BS' and just man up and do it the right way. Even a journey of 1,000 miles begins with the first step (in the wrong direction, and at the end you have EA ;).
@Eonjay No. CDPR meant the game. Just because you and a few others (that evidently care more about junk than the actual game) took it to mean every single thing the same, is on you.
People hate MS for many reasons. CD Projekt Red is like the opposite of MS in terms of the way the do business. Also, when speaking to customers, MS speaks BS & CD Projekt shoots it straight. In these terms, they are polar opposite.
I'm not in the group that has a hate boner for Microsoft. I own a PS4, and while I'd be happy about getting content like this for no extra price, I'd still be kinda angry if Sony got the exclusive extras. It's not fair to anybody. I don't care if you ditch the extra goodies for free and make it $20 more expensive, but for every platform. Give everybody the option.
They have always been Microsoft fanboys so no they are not hypocrites. I would not be surprised if the game have some issues on ps4. (Mark my words)
When, and if, you grow up, you'll realize there's a thing in the grown up world called business. Do you think they are MS fanboys because they didn't release TW2 on PS3? They said they maybe wouldn't even be able to run the game on PS3. Remember: they had no experience with consoles and even the experienced devs complained about its complexity. Also it was MS who made a deal with them. Chances are Somy didn't try hard enough. I feel actually relieved that they decided to release TW3 on PS4. And now they're feeding from the fanboyism because they made a deal (probably) with MS to put something more on their version of the CE? Damn. Some people can have a really narrow mind...
I think the reason why people are calling CDPR hypocrites is because they said in May no exclusive content on ANY platform. "WE ARE TREATING ALL GAMERS EQUALLY" Marcin Iwinski said. My how the mighty have fallen. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Only 2 months later, now theirs exclusive XBO content. It's sad how they quickly changed their position.
They always been PC oriented. The first Witcher is a PC-only game and the PC platform came DRM free with the Witcher 2. Red Project created GOG.com: a website advocates DRM free PC games and releases every game on that website DRM free.
I'm certainly glad your comment does not represent me as a PS4 owner.
The sad thing is that people are actually defending this crap. Were basically paying more for less and yet people can't wrap their heads around the logic of that. Pretty sad. OT: And to all the people that try to argue the same thing with DLC. You all know for a fact that 99.9% of time all DLC eventually makes it way to other platforms. There have only been a few exceptions like the Dead Rising 2 case west or case zero DLC. Also another thing to add if people here are not into buying CE's then you have no business commenting on something that doesn't affect you. Take it how you want to take it, but it's the truth.
Im still waiting for those joker challenge levels from Batman AA on ps3 to make their way to the 360 version. So far.....nothing. Looks like i found the .1% example you mentioned.
You know what's being defended here, RELEASING COMPLETE SOFTWARE. You know, the actual game, the thing those of us with more sense than money will end up getting. If the price of keeping the consoles from slicing up games and dividing among several sources, is those few willing to spend $150 on a game missing out on a piece of cloth and a deck of cards, so be it. Most of us want the actual game and not a bunch of over priced shelf junk. What's sad is after all the support CDPR has shown to their customers in the past, that they get trashed over something so utterly stupid as a piece of cloth and some cards. And yes, it is stupid. Its not a second statue, bigger statue, or a sword, no, its a piece of cloth and a card game. That's not just sad, its pathetic really. You can always just walk away. Like they said, you think they wronged you? Then by all means move right the hell along. But that won't happen, that's the truth.
I agree with your stance on PS owners paying more for less, so those with a problem should just hold onto there hard earned money and wait for a price drop. If you feel missing out on a map and some cards is a big deal (and I get the argument) just wait for it to drop to $39 or $29 and pick it up then. If you really want to get over on the developer, just buy it used. You get the game and the developer gets nothing. That could get your point across, without spilling vile and nasty remarks to the team making the game.
what are you even ranting about? Do u actually think these trinkets are made at CD:PR?... Really... What does pack'ins funded by MS have to do with a game. U think CD:PR, actually took development staff and assigned them to the "Trinkets and Charms" division... U just posted a rant about nothing.
What about Sony with the destiny exclusive dlc? Grow up.
The difference is Bungie has never made a statement like CD:PR did when it comes to everything being the same on all platforms.
Damn, you sony fanboys are the worst. You work hard to make every dev hate you.
don't generalize. i couldn't care less about a deck of cards and a map.
Makes sense the comments section needs to match it.
Get the game on the XBox and trade it in for the PS version. Easy peasy.
This is a pretty hilarious response "we bend over backwards to give you the most beefed up editions of our games (be it standard or Collector’s)" Or collectors? Isn't that why people are complaining? It's the whole point of this so obviously you haven't if one edition is more beefed up then the other "and we deliver the same game, regardless of platform or version you buy" We're not talking about the game though, this is about the contents of a collectors edition. "Funnily enough, we did not notice any heated comments on the pre-order specials." Gamers are ALWAYS ticked off with that sort of thing. The majority of us hate pre order stuff to begin with so I don't see why your trying to say there's no "heated comments" when there is, it's just more accepted now since nothing is done about it. "Why are we doing this? We need the support of partners to make our game visible worldwide" ....IT'S THE WITCHER, I think it's pretty well known to gamers worldwide now. I mean it's up to the third game now. It's also based on a book which had it's own exposure, so you don't just have gamers you always have book fans aswell I like how they think they've done nothing wrong when they have, do they think we are stupid. They are trying to spin this around and make it about the games content when it's not about that at all. No one is judging the games content or the game it's self, there's no complaints there from any of us. Fact is you're expecting PS4 and PC owners to pay MORE for their version with LESS STUFF INCLUDED, then you have to cheek to talk about how you don't get involved in exclusive stuff because you want to treat us all "equal". Two points that totally go against each other. As I've said when it's pre order DLC or exclusive DLC to a specific platform eventually EVERY GAMER can get that DLC. Like how the Destiny PS4 DLC will come to the Xbox One and the Evolve DLC will come to the PS4 for example With collectors editions contents you can't add them in later can you, once you pay for it and it ships that's it, you get what your given. If you want the extra stuff and it's available online somewhere then you have to pay extra, meaning PS4/PC players would be paying even more for less. I seriously don't understand how some people can't wrap there heads around this.
Or xbox owners get more value for the same price. This doesnt mean that pc and ps4 has less value. (Think about it) Its logical that ms get this edition if they had an agreement. Xbox gets couple of things extra and ms advertises witcher for "free". My xbox higlighted the witcher tremendously the past months. Its called business. And if gamers dont buy or curse at cdprojekt for somthing that doesnt have to do with the game itself, then those people cant call them self gamers. Such hatred for so small thing. Woow.
"Or xbox owners get more value for the same price. This doesnt mean that pc and ps4 has less value. (Think about it)" Then PS4/PC gamers are getting less value, call it what you like but you can view it either way. They will see it as more value the other side will see it as less value. Every person here who either views it that way, are calling people babies/entitled OR saying they don't care are mostly getting it for the Xbox One anyway so this doesn't both them, to them it's more value. "Its logical that ms get this edition if they had an agreement. Xbox gets couple of things extra and ms advertises witcher for "free" So let me get this straight, it's totally fine for a developer to do exclusive collectors edition content yet exclusive DLC is bad. It's the same thing, except like I said about DLC would come to other consoles eventually, it doesn't work with physical content. "And if gamers dont buy or curse at cdprojekt for somthing that doesnt have to do with the game itself, then those people cant call them self gamers." Oh look at that, someone who seems to know what "makes a gamer". It's about right and wrong, the game will be good yes but it dosen't give them the excuse to do this, big thing or small thing. Like I've said before if you aren't a collector and don't like collectors editions then you won't give a shit...but some people like myself do like collecting these things and as a fan of the series I want to get the most for my money....I just want to do that on my system of choice. "Such hatred for so small thing. Woow" No...you just don't care. Your one of these people where if it doesn't affect you in anyway you don't care but god forbid if something else did you'd want everyone to jump on board. Since most people see collectors editions as a waste of money I get that but maybe you should try seeing it on the other side of the fence once and a while.
-Foxtrot So, you totally looked over this part of their statement. "We are also providing special pre-order items for certain retailers around the world, including Witcher comic books, posters, steel books or medallions. Funnily enough, we did not notice any heated comments on the pre-order specials." According to your logic, I should feel cheated because I'm not getting ALL of that stuff with MY pre-order of the game? Even though it's the same Standard, Limited or Collector's Edition? Sorry, but you again, are making this situation "important" because it's Xbox vs PC vs PS4. It's painfully obvious.
Meh these two worthless extras mean nothing to me as I still plan on buying the PS4 version. As long as my gaming experience isn't compromised I could give two ish about this stupid deal.
Anybody reading your comments would think that you have a personal stake in this thats why your so angry or is it simply because xbox is getting something
I swear why does everyone on this site try to use the same excuse "Oh, it's because it's xbox and everyone just hates microsoft," get over yourself......
@MrSwankSinatra u get over yourself, its completely true, the complaints are ridiculous in this instance.
If you have no intention on buying the CE version of this game...just stop. It isnt like you are on some crusade for gaming equality. If you are planning on getting the CE game then get the XB1 version to collect and then buy the regular one to play for your platform of choice. MS paid for this. Sony could do the same thing if the consumers demand it. So go tell sony you want a cloth map and cards in their version and see if sony responds in kind.
Still waiting for that Arkham Asylum content that fancied the PS3.
And I would totally sympathize if Xone owners were getting like a sword or a life size statue of Geralt. Nope, its just a cloth map and some cards. And that's your problem. See, you're right that most think CEs are junk, but in this case its not even the main junk that's changed, its the even more worthless side junk. Yea, I get you can't ever get it again, and I don't care. If that's what CDPR had to do to keep MS at bay, fine, I want the game minus having to buy the rest of it.
Like I said above, if this is that big of an issue ( I get the argument and understand the rage) just buy it at a price drop or buy the game used. Yea it sucks, but there is not a whole lot that's going to change about it. As a customer you should speak with your wallet. If enough people do it the point may get across to them ( don't hold your breath on that), if you buy someone else's second hand you get the game without giving money to the developer (personally I think this is terrible, but would get your point across). There are other options, your voice has been heard they have responded now speak with your wallet.
"Everyone knows TW, they don't need more publicity" or something like that: So... Since we all, avid readers/writers, know everything about this game, they don't need more marketing? Do you know that the world outside is made from people actually different than you? People that don't breathe games and can't name one game releasing this year. Tomorrow I'll talk to a friend who own a PS4, had PS3 etc. I'm pretty sure he doesn't know about The Witcher. A work mate (will get a PS4 soon) got crazy when he saw TW3 in the E3 confs. He didnt know about it before. Mind blowing to you, it seems... Yes, CDPR wants to sell their game to everyone, not only to us. Oh, and hey, welcome to the real world. PS: I don't believe I had to explain this... It feels like talking to a kid.
Where was your outrage when Playstation owners get more value via digital content on the games that others pay the same price for? No, no, no, this is MS here we are talking about! It doesn't benefit me, so now I will whine and cry injustice to ME!!!
"....IT'S THE WITCHER, I think it's pretty well known to gamers worldwide now. I mean it's up to the third game now. It's also based on a book which had it's own exposure, so you don't just have gamers you always have book fans aswell" Quite the assumption, especially for PS only gamers who have bought exactly zero copies of the franchise. Of course you're only making this assumption in order to strengthen your argument against MS's continuing support of CDPR and The Witcher franchise but I'm just letting you know it's a weak and transparent attempt. You've been all up in these comments writing tomes of outrage. Maybe it's time to go play a video game.
I love how every dev has to explain why Xbox is getting something extra as if they are on trial or being questioned by the police.
Is it wrong for fans that own other consoles/PC to get shafted? Regardles of how big or small the pre-orders are.. We are sitll paying the same price but getting less.. So obviously people would be ticked about that..
Is it wrong for fans that own the Xbox One to get more for the same price? If you really want this "stuff" that bad then buy the Xbox One version of the game. People act like this is the first time in the history of video games that this has happened. Why is it such a big deal when the Xbox gets something more than the other systems?
I see this as similar to Batman Arkham series, exclusive stuff for the PS version, its also the same price as the xbox and pc version and i haven't seen people go up in arms about it in the past and i'd argue the exclusive stuff probably costed more cash because you know a few devs had to work on it vs a clothed map and a deck of cards which probably go for 5$
Don't forget watch dogs and destiny.. two of the biggest hyped games of the last year.. Its only bad when they don't get it.. Would a thought that was obvious by now lol