"The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is a gorgeous looking game and CD Projekt are trying to deliver the same experience across the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One."
"We always want to provide the best possible experience to all our gamers regardless of the platform and so we are not aiming to develop special graphical features for any of them" This HAS to be the biggest PR BS contradicting statement I have ever seen from a developer. Did that guy think about what he was saying? How the hell do you deliver the best possible experience to every one by aiming for parity?. By his logic I hope the PC version does not look better than the console versions and they aim for parity across board.
It vexes me how CD Projekt went from standing against everything Microsoft stood to basically **** riding Microsoft this gen. BEFORE: -DRM is bad - We started GOG so PC users can have more options - We love PC - Push graphics spectrum! NOW: - DRM is good - options are bad - PC users can suck it - 1080p is a mythical resolution
agreed. this is bull. i admit i dont have a capable p so ill probably be playing this on ps4 but this isnt the cdpr i knew. theyre the ones who still roll out balancing mods and free dlc for witcher 2. and now theyre just busy praising drm and MS. you cant make the best possible version without using their special features. i have a feeling they might just end up gimping all version to xb1 level because MS isnt competent enough to make a good console but they have a lot of money
Lol what. CD & MS has always been on good terms. How you think witcher 2 came to the 360
Does this mean that because they received a backhander from Microsoft they are going to ensure graphical PARITY and claim they are being fair?
It's strange, Microsoft is showing off their game on every occasion so they somehow have to return this favour. Maybe it's really through console parity, who knows.
where did you get the DRM is good (game is DRM free)? they're still providing options (on GOG, Steam and both consoles), PC gamers are getting way better support than consoles in terms of FPS and Res (depends on your rig of course but i don't believe they're artifically gimping them), and not sure where the last part came from at all
Why argue with any of you? You all believe whatever you want to be true either way. Supporting evidence is easy to find no matter what side of the coin you're on. r9 290/290x are supreme beasts of a cards. Not to be compared to the ps4 or xbox gpu, in either graphical performance, or "compute" Im still new here, but I really hear some wacky stuff around these parts. I mean what on earth made you think that the ps4 gpu would come anywhere close to AMD's flagship card lineup? even if Cerny somehow shoehorned that into his speech...
DRM? You mean like what Sony does with PSNow?
If they get it up to 1080p on the Xbox I'll buy it on the X1, otherwise I'm gonna let my r9 290x tear this game a new one.
The DRM on PSNow is kind of how the whole service works. The entire game is processed by the servers otherwise the game wouldn't work at all on PSVita, PS4, PC, etc. It works just like OnLive, Netflix, Hulu, and any other media streaming equivalents. This is different from DRM in its conventional sense.
@SonyPS4, and don't forget that Steam is a form of DRM. It's just implemented so well that most people don't mind.
Microsoft are terrible. They are literally the illuminati of gaming.... oh bill gates started Xbox, Right? Hmm....
why would you hope for the PC version to be downgraded? Why would that satisfy you?
Are you serious???
i think you should read all words when reading. skipping two or three doesnt get the job done.
U are right. All dis readin and sarcasm and irony talk make no sense. My brain hurts too much to read dis stufff. U jus like me man. I don get dis crazy talks.
Why does the ps4 version getting downgraded to xbone satisfy you? So its not okay to console parity pc version, but its ok to gimp ps4?
I think you need to read what he wrote again :) he never stated that at all.
Lol you fanboys are going crazy.. don't buy the game then. @MightyNoX "DRM is good - options are bad - PC users can suck it - 1080p is a mythical resolution" and your Source for this BS is?
Lol. Totally agree. They are releasing it on GOG DRM free. But they will forget about it and down vote me just to make a point.
For anyone thinking the PS4 GPU is a R9 290 should really not comment on anything technical or hardware specific, NVIDIA GTX 750TI has beaten the PS4 in benchmark tests on a couple of games and that card is £100 on amazon, lastly if SONY were so proud of their hardware why don't they put a benchmark application on there like 3D mark 11 and show how good it is
Who the hell are you replying to and what the hell are you talking about????
"NVIDIA GTX 750TI has beaten the PS4 in benchmark tests on a couple of games" You do realize the GPU in PS4 is dedicated hardware which has nearly twice the efficiency of the same hardware in a PC.
LOL NVIDIA GTX 750TI is slower than PS4 gpu, stop spreading BS. 750 Ti Memory bandwidth- 86.4 GB/s...... PS4 176GB/s Rops - 16........PS4 32 1,728 GFLOPS.......PS4 1.84 TMU - 40........PS4 72 Pixel Rate 16.32 GPixel/s......PS4 25.6 Memory bus 128 bit......PS4 256 bit Shading Units 640 ....PS4 1152
first of all 750 ti is maxwell so its twice as effiecient as ps4. double the shading unit doesnt matter. so i can say ps4 is basically modified 7870 amd with the power of new r7 265 amd. and ps4 and xbox one will be outdated by next year as new gpu will start rolling.
"You do realize the GPU in PS4 is dedicated hardware which has nearly twice the efficiency of the same hardware in a PC." Can i ask why you think that? http://i.imgur.com/mTsV9W6.... @Unarmed_Civilian https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Guys, don't worry it's just the idiot of Future.
Why dont you build a PC for $400 that can beat PS4, in fact, there are units being sold for $369 on ebay from various reputed sellers. So let see what you can come up with a PC that can perform equal or better to PS4.
I thought PS4 was around a 760 (1.8tf) and X bone was 750ti (1.3tf). Regardless I agree with your point (albeit unspoken), even if CD PROJECT used every ounce of power the PS4 has, it would be barely noticeable vs the Xbone, and a good PC would kill them both (although still not enough of a difference to make a real meaningful impact on gameplay).
452 dollar pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r... it will play battlefield 4 at 1080p ultra 50fps and other multiplatform games better than both the consoles https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Unarmed_Civilian- Enjoy... http://n4g.com/news/1461003... Oh... one HUGE factor you forget to consider is core clock speed. The 750ti can easily run at 1,300mhz. The PS4's gpu only runs at 800mhz. That's more than 60% more MHZ.
@ the infected, yes that I called optimization, But optimization doesn't mean what it used to, before xoneps4 there was unique hardware to learn. Now it's just typical PC hardware. now optimization pretty much means if a dev wants to get 1080 60 they can adjust the settings. PC gamers have optimization too, if my game isn't running at 60fps I turn the settings down.
@ ravensly You forgot the operating system, and no that pc would be lucky to run a few games at the same standard as the consoles.
@Unarmed_Civilian Linus suggest judging the graphics card only by it's benchmarks, not by stats http://www.youtube.com/watc...
@raven 4 gigs of ram 2 gb video card. No operating system. Are you for real with this?
consoles use only 4.5gb ram and you can add another 2gb ram if you want so 6gbram.as for the operating system you can have linux or the backup of windows 7 cd which i have. mikey what 2gb video card.2gb is more than enough for 1080p gaming unless you use heavy anti aliasing and other effects. a r9 270 can play watch dogs at high at 1080p 40fps even though its optimization is shit
@ravensly : No keyboard/mouse, no gamepad, no OS, price too high. Try again
it is BS. i want my PS4 to be used of every power it has. why buy a new console if developers don't want to push the console to its limit ? greedy ass MS spoiling the current gen for everyone whether your a PC gamer, PS4 gamer and Xbox gamer. they intentionally made a underpowered console to cut costs when its not like they are having cash problems. how embarrassing for MS that its games and console are worse than Sony who are bleeding money like its going out of fashion. MS are a disease that is ruining the fun for everyone.
Also, all the money MS is spending now to make up for the underpowered xbox, could have been spent on producing an xbox one with much better specs. :( Which most likely I would have purchased instead of sitting this one out for a while.
All we can hope for now is that the XB1 version is great because that's the version the PS4 gamers are going to get. What a pity 'some' developers are not prepared to take advantage of that 40% extra horse power. Microsoft's whole strategy this generation is going to be: 'If you can't beat them, hold them back.' It won't work though because as the install base of the PS4 grows much bigger and the gap grows bigger too, the money required to influence parity will increase exponentially. In the short term, the PS4 will be held back for 'some' games, but in the long term the differences will become ever more apparent and go beyond simple resolution and framerate.
40% extra horsepower....don't think so.. more like 20%. Another person thinking ps4 is a supercomputer.
No, another person who follows the news and doesn't visit MisterXmedia. I could have said 50% but I don't agree with that.
I'm reconsidering buying this game. I have never played a Witcher game before, but this one looked really interesting...but I can't stand when developers "aim for parity". Just make the game the best for each system you're developing for...if not, you're not getting my dollars. Period.
These guys make PC games, and the PC game will be far and away the best version. As for his comment, I think they said exactly what a smart marketing person would say. They could have flat out said "PS4 and Xbone don't have the power to run the game with anti-aliasing or details anywhere close to the PC version. You console fanboys need to realize they're made with two year old mobile technology". Fyi... he was talking about parity between consoles. Not PC and consoles.
Yep they would of burned him at the stake. If you show console only gamers how big the difference between console and pcs they will shun you. They would downplay it and say it sucks.
I agree completely. I love CD Project Red, I do. But there is definitely an affinity towards MS. So, to provide the best possible gameplay to everyone, you would build and use every tool that each platform has at its disposal. Thus, PC at ultra settings would look and run best. Then, the PS4 and finally xbone. Does this alter gameplay? No. But you don't build a game at the lowest common denominator to make the most ppl happy.
Actually, considering the install bases of the 3 platforms, by aiming for parity on the xbone it's pissing a large majority of the fanbase off. I know the n4g comment section is by no means scientific, but you can see roughly 9/10 comments are blasting CDproject for this, and rightly so.
Lol.. remember both console are rocking old tech for the the most part, if cdp added msaa both systems would average around 20 fps lol, I would hope you'd prefer stable frame rate before eye candy.Beside cdp started on pc way before porting to consoles so dont get piss over something you cant control, like always cdp will make witcher 3 the definitive version on PC hate all you wont, because its not going to change the facts lol
Your name seems to be a true representation of what is really between your ears. Obviously what I stated went clear over your head.
Actually its the other way around, even if cdp made witcher 3 to both console capabilities lol how much better do you think ps4 version would be compared to xbox one a few frames more with eye candy that you could barely tell the difference, doesn't matter to me cause im getting the definitive version and I will be playing it at 60fps to bad you cant say the same hahaha.
So in other words PS4 version dumbed down as MS asked them too with probably a bag of money they tried using to get consol exclusivity like with Tombraider. Horray MS yet again holding multiplats back because they released a weaker piece of hardware. And people wonder why I hate MS as a gamer. Hmm I wonder why??? I highly doubt this will effect the PC version but if it did oh boy, people think PS4 fans were pissed at the Tombraider deal well wait for PC fans with this.
How about make the game the best you can on each platform? Stupid parity is all it is! Guess well all be playing the Xbox One version no matter what platform we play on. /s
You do realize that both the PS4 and Xbox One are the equivalent of low range PCs right? There is no parity, neither console gets any special graphic fx that take a much stronger GPU/CPU to achieve.
You do realise that PS4 gpu is 50% stronger than X1 gpu , and that ps4 has the compute power of r9 290. Mark Cerny wanted a high compute power in PS4 ,so development of that was applied to r9 290 also.
For Christ's sake don't you people think before you write?
@Unarmed_Civilian That is BS. There are benchmarks that prove the PS4 is not 50% more powerful. Sure its more powerful, but not that much powerful.
How stupid of you bringing bechmarks statement to say that the ps4 isnt 50% more powerfull. It is and its a fact just do the math. The benchmarks depend of games and engines optimizations for example it can achieve 30% more performance in one game and 55% in other
@Lennoxb63 "@Unarmed_Civilian That is BS. There are benchmarks that prove the PS4 is not 50% more powerful. Sure its more powerful, but not that much powerful." "PS4′S GPU ABSOLUTELY SMOKES XBOX ONE IN WCCF BENCHMARK" http://blogjob.com/oneangry...
@Unarmed_Civilian Stop spreading lies and propaganda. The GPU in PS4 is nowhere near the R9 290 specs. It's more equivalent to a R9 270. Both PS4 GPU and R9 270 have 20 Compute Units. Either way I'm getting it on my PC. I've supported CDPR since The Witcher and I'm not going to stop now.
@seafort Time for some reading boy. http://gamenmotion.blogspot... I wasn't talking GFlops, seems to me you don't understand what you read.
@Unarmed_Civilian You have to be kidding me and the for the people that agreed with you are just as silly to think ps4 has a gpu equivalent as an r290, whatever you and the folks that agreed with you are smoking im making sure I stay clear of it lol.Ps4 gpu is is equivalent to a hd 7850/7870 with better optimization for console lol r290 gtfh
@brainfart "@Unarmed_Civilian You have to be kidding me and the for the people that agreed with you are just as silly to think ps4 has a gpu equivalent as an r290, whatever you and the folks that agreed with you are smoking im making sure I stay clear of it lol.Ps4 gpu is is equivalent to a hd 7850/7870 with better optimization for console lol r290 gtfh" Do you know the difference between Gflops and Compute? Dont embarrass yourself
Holy shit, PS4 fans thinking their GPU is as good as a 290 is one of the funniest things I have read on this site to date. Delusional is an understatement. You seriously think that because both have 8 ACE's they are somehow the same? That's like saying a 1ghz quad core CPU is the same as a 5ghz CPU because they have the same amount of cores... As someone who owns a R9 290 and a PS4 I can tell you this; my GPU blows the absolute shit out of the PS4, which is what you would expect since it was nearly the same price just for the GPU as my PS4 was at launch.
@Unarmed_Civilian "Mark Cerny wanted a high compute power in PS4 ,so development of that was applied to r9 290 also." Why bother mentioning the R9 290 when the PS4's performance comes no where close to it? Just because they share 8 Asynchronous Compute Engines doesn't mean nothing, actual performance in games does. http://www.hardwareheaven.c... http://blogs-images.forbes.... https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Stop telling bulls"it. PS4 owners will get the game, Xbox One owners will get the game, PC owners will get the game. PC version will look better but not significantly, what is more: Witcher will look better on $400 PS4 than on 400$ PC. Stop crying, be glad that you will be able to buy the game at all, while Nintendo owners won't.
Way to miss the entire point.
I agree with you. Max out each version of the game and don't aim for parity. If someone bought an expensive gaming PC they deserve the best experience. If someone bought the most powerful next gen console they deserve the best experience on consoles. But for gods sake don't dumb down the experience for those people just so the weakest console is on par with the most powerful platform. This goes for all developers.
No one is going to spend extra time with a box to max out that system. Devs spend the same exact time with each system to get it up to snuff. This myth that devs can push significantly better graphics while coding for 2 platforms simultaneously is ridiculous. The people that say " don't aim for PARITY!!!" don't understand game development.