VG247: Following talk that Microsoft is to announce two new major games in its E3 press conference, videogaming247 has learnt from trusted sources that the announcements are to be "interesting, partly spectacular and a bit desperate."
my guess is that it's the wii mote ripoff and the blu-ray drive. I wouldn't be surprised if they are able to buy more timed exclusives but I don't expect any major AAA titles.
Or a game? But It's too soon for anotehr Halo (or is it?) and Gears of War 2 is already on the horizon, so what are they actually going to do?
I agree, timed exclusives are one thing but paying for a triple-A exclusive title may be a little too much money! =) What the hell could it be - motion senseing? Whatever the case, I think beefing up their 2008 4th quarter line-up is a step in the right direction.
@fighter...you hv too many bubbles for being an ignorant fanboy. Its says games can't u read.
are you kidding me. if microsoft wanted to buy 30 AAA exclusives they could. if there willing to pay 30 billion for yahoo then they can definately buy a few games
30+ billion like it's nothing. @fighter they said games..buddy, read before you troll. Whats up with the title>?
this is the most bias article that i've ever read and ps3 fans that agree with it is just bias to.if ps3 fans admit the truth and check the facts before they agree that the 360 doesn't have any good games, then they will see that the 360 have some damn good exclusives that's comeing out in 2008. here are just some exclusives that's comeing out this year halo cronicles(not shure yet) infinity undiscovery halo wars ninja gaiden 2 gears of war 2 too human alan wake fable 2 lost odyssey two wrold pt2 splinter cell conviction huxly dead or alive 5 badjo koozt crash bandicut left for dead and they have some others to i think that the ps3 and 360 are both damn good consoles with good exclusives that's comeing out on them.ps3 fans wish that the ps3 had some exclusives that the 360 have and 360 fans wish that the 360 had some exclusives that the ps3 have.they have some fans from both system that will never say that the other system is good with good games because they are just bias and it's childish to act that way.the truth is that sony and microsoft doesn't give a sh*t about them all they care about is selling their consoles. all companies lie to sell product.when i hear some ps3 fans saying that sony doesn't lie and they care about them, it makes me laugh.they alway talk about microsoft and how the 360 breaks and i agree with that but to say that sony cares more about their customers then microsoft is laughable. when sony released the ps1 and 2 they both had a lot of problems with them, especially the ps2 with the drive they put in it.when you put a game in the ps2 it would say can't read disc even when it was a new system and after a few month it would say can't read disc %95 of the time. sony knew that something was wrong with the drive in the ps2 but lied and said that nothing was wrong with them because they didn't want to pay to fix them.it took a lawsuit for sony to finaly admit that the ps had defected drives in them and they knew it all alone but didn't want to pay for their mistakes and they got away with it.sony finally fixed the drives in the new systems that they released to sell but for people like me that went through 5 of them in about a year and a half was just stuck with them because sony didn't give us an extra couple of months on the warrinty.i'm not saying that microsoft does every thing better then sony because it's not true and vice versa but atleast microsoft gave everyone a 3 year warrinty when the 360 started haveing problems and unlike sony microsoft didn't have to get sued to fix it like sony did.sony and microsoft only cares about makeing money and like i said they will lie to do it as a matter of fact both companies did already. if people want to play all the great games that they have out they will need both systems.i tired of hearing fans from both systems saying that all the games sux on the other system because if the same games that they say sux was on the system that they have they would say that they are great games. like i said above i'm not picking any sides but when i hear a fan from one system claim something that's not true and i know it's not and i could find something to prove them wrong i'll post it.i've read where one ps3 fan said that the ps3 have more exclusives out on the ps3 then the 360 and it's wrong,i'm not saying that all the exclusives are better on the 360 but it has more exclusive for it then the ps3 have and here's the article i've found to prove him wrong i know every one will disagree with me especially ps3 fans but before they do i wish that they check their facts first because the fact is that sony was sued over the ps2 because of the defected drive and sony knew it but kept saying nothing was wrong with them and the 360 does have more exclusives then the ps3 and all they have to do is check up on it but i know that they want and just call me names and say i don't know what i'm talking about and if this article was vice versa the 360 fans would be calling me names just because i posted the facts. here's the article on who have more exclusives The investigatory-journalism notes that the Xbox 360 offers 48 exclusive games with the help of a one-year head start (48% of which are first-party), the PS3 has a total of 35 games (51% of which are first-party), and Wii represents with 40 titles (35% of which are first-party). Hit the read link for the full list of exclusives by console according to the games blog
They needed a loan to buy Yahoo. LOL. And why waste money buying games WHEN NO ONE BUYS YOUR CONSOLE. They aren't fanboys, and if the business isnt bringing in billions they waste billions just to buy AAA games no one will buy on their system anyways. Microsoft has lots of money, but their purpose for the Xbox including HD-DVD, digital downloads, and Live memberships have already been ruined this generation. Now they are in it just for face, and face is the videogame industry isnt worth billions.
new game will be BigLittleAsteriod.. :)
what does being american have to do with anything related to this article... we may look dumb to you, but you just proved your about as smart as a shoe
@killax3563 - lol... funny you are trying to use examples like GTA4 DLC to prove microsoft failure yet it's not even out... or how you call Rare a failure... microsoft is using rare to capture a very difficult demographic.. the casual gamer.. that in case you didn't know Sony is yet to break... You are also speaking about microsoft which is very profitable... I don't even know why I am replying to someone that can't tell the difference between a software company and a car manufacturing company... microsoft had a game studio and was making PC games and gamepads and even contributing with the creation of other consoles like dreamcast... do your research boy before calling people stupid and not knowing these facts. Not to mention their involvement in the creation and ownership of 1 of the 2 biggest graphics/game SDK/API DirectX... Microsoft is being involved in the game industry for a long time.. creating tools for developers to make games and you are comparing them to Toyota? damn you think americans are dumb? I am not going to ask you where you from because you telling me your nationality would be an insult for your people and any school your probably attended... oh and about Iraq... don't blame americans for that when a handful of people made a decision... americans werent asked to vote to go to war. and when americans helped so many nations during the first and second world war no one was complaining... and at that point americans weren't that stupid ehh?
@pro3ta: b/c 'oh they have plenty of money' is the dumb response u get from us citizens. u guys always make the same mistake. always....u guys never learn. @bladestar: ms is profitable? yeah because they have a monopoly. doesn't take much brains to make money from a monopoly. your utility company is also very profitable...because they have a monopoly. oil companies are also very profitable b/c they have no competition....have u ever tried to put anything other than gasoline in ur car? u can't b/c there's no competition...no solar cars, no hydrogent cars, no ethanol cars (xcept for a handful).
ohh the monopoly argument again... cry me a river... that argument is old and dumb and proven not truth in so many cases... if microsoft is such of a monopoly explain: - Why firefox is now becoming the #1 browser? - Why MSN is not the #1 search engine... google is? - why Nintendo is selling more consoles than the xbox 360? - why Ipod is more successful than the Zune? The fact is that if any company.. non microsoft included makes a great product that apeal to the mass market people will use it... period.. Microsoft didn't put a gun on people's head to use windows or office or the xbox 360... there are always other alternatives like linux and MAC... they always being there... Microsoft won the browser war against netscape because it was better... and now microsoft is losing it to firefox because firefox are doing a good job... same goes with google... who's fault is that? I find it interesting that when microsoft comes with a product people are willing to pay... it's a monopoly but when another company does no one says anything... why is that? there is an alternative to every product you can think of.. just because I buy a Honda over Ford does not mean Honda has a monopoly... also just because a company has more resources than me and can make a better product does not mean that's a monopoly.
But M$ does have a monopoly on PC OS's. The competition they have is Linux, which is free and not particularily user friendly for the avg consumer, or Apple's OS, which you can't install on anything except a PC made by apple which is usually double the cost of a PC. So if you want a PC OS that is easy to use you have one option and that is Windows. Every PC manufacturer includes uses Windows and includes it in the cost of the PC. This is also by far their most profitable division.
can be installed on any PC you want.
But it really doesn't matter. You can't walk into ANY store and ask for a PC w/ a mac OS on it. I don't even know of any that have Linux on there. That means if you go buy a non-apple PC, M$ is getting some of that money because the OS is pre-installed on it. There's no choice in it, just like you can't choose who your power company is you can't choose an OS out of the box either. There's a word for that...
before you go spouting off a conviction on someone's intelligence, try and learn some grammar and debating skills...secondly, this isn't about nationality or some cultural pissing match. It's E3, calm down. I am American, I'm not dumb, I learn very well, and I buy whatever works well, regardless of global orgin. I feel 360 has an amazing lineup with some sketchy hardware, and the PS3 has awesome hardware and features with some killer apps and prospects as well, and the Wii has a novel idea and a few brilliant games. Between the two of 360 and PS3 though, I say flip a coin and enjoy the result, because there's no reason to reject a certain product due to it's manufacturer's base country, the same way I don't discriminate against a person just because they come from country X or Y.
a platform holder announcing two as yet unannounced games at a gaming convention?????? that's just the height of desperation! i cant believe a platform holder could act so desperately. announcing games at a game convention
halo kart master chief and fenix at the olympic games. seriously though i hope it's the fourth installment for halo franchise.
hah hah hah superb comment!!! My guess would be another FPS game.
just 2 and a half hours till i can pick up MGS4.
Halo Crossing? Halo Xtreme Volleyball: Do the Dew. Sponsored by Moutain Dew The Legend of Cortanna: A Data Stream to the Future? Perfect Dark Merc Party? Seriously though I'd like to see a Dead Rising 2 on both or either system.
HOw about MGS5, FF XXII, RidgeRacer 9 ? See how much sony can milk them as well
Team ICO is the only thign I trust, they won't milk, and they will just create stuff. E3 please brign info on ICO3!!! PLEASE!
Master Chief takes off his helmet and its Bruce Willis
Made my day. Thanks for that image. Halo The Movie: Die Hardest
I was thinking more about his astronaut suit in Armageddon.
I hope one of them is KI3. Man, that fighting game is gonna own.
FULGORE MUST RETURN!
100% agree, fulgore has to be my favorite character from any 1v1 fighter. i felt like he really was a complete killing machine. he had every move you could think of to make him practically untouchable, and he was so underrated. Once i started using him that was it, no one could touch me. what i would like is not a new ki, but an arcade perfect conversion. Not the Nes version.
I prefer Saberwulf or chief thunder :)
Cinder FTW! But seriously, more fighting games sould have blood and violence in them.
kudos ! Saber wolf was the only one i found to be a big threat to fulgore, he was the only you can sit and wait with. none else could do that.... if you know what i mean.
Orchid for me and Kim Wu from KI Gold.
I hate rare but that would be cool.
I am just going to ignore all the BS that you wrote. but for that last statement. Did you buy the Xbox??? Because that had to be the most durable systems ever.
Microsoft will never be desperate, if they ever get that desperation feeling then they will simply buy someone or something to take it away, my personal opinion is that the 2 secret games will be KI3 and dead rising 2
I'm sorry but where have you been these past few...20 years or so?They've been buying out their competition and any direct threat to their business for years and years now,heck,in 2008 alone we've seen them go after Yahoo! in what a lot of people consider a desperate attempt at slowing down Googles increasing momentum in the Search and Online Ad market. http://www.alleyinsider.com... Now back on topic;I think 1 of the 2 games will be a cross between 2...or 3 popular franchises,the other game I have no idea.
I call smart business tactics. Just because a person or a company does what is within their control to keep ahead of the competition, doesn't mean they're desperate, it means they're smart enough to realized that being a name brand only goes so far. Microsoft, from what I've seen recently, it isn't about talk, it's about action, and I can definitely respect that.
An over-priced "console" that looks like an old dell modem a 1.6 in 10 chance a brand new one will overheat and fry on you.(RROD) If the system is knockd over,tiled it'll sound like a chainsaw and sratch the disc,dont belive me? try it.. Then there's the disc jamming problem,non self-loading drive People calling Microsoft saying there XBL download content went missing.And they were told to just buy it again. People's freind/message's dissapering on XBL And seriously,name ONE console EVER where gamers have to wrap towels around it? maybe if M$ spent all that money on a reliable peice of hardware instead of bribes and viral marketing tactics,i MIGHT consider buying it.
That landed them in hot water with the United States Government? http://valleywag.com/392558... http://www.theinquirer.net/... http://www.informationarbit... http://www.thebizofcoding.c... http://www.time.com/time/bu... http://www.downloadsquad.co... http://www.forbes.com/2008/... http://www.informationweek.... http://www.crn.com/software... http://www.businessweek.com... http://www.bloggingstocks.c... Don't shoot the messenger.
Staying ahead of your competition is one thing. Buying them up and being the only one out there is another. (Referring to the os on pc's thing) No one likes EA having no competition on the football gaming front. It brings down the lvl. of quality. Better said you don't inovate and try better and new techniques when your the only one doing something.
"f the system is knockd over,tiled it'll sound like a chainsaw and sratch the disc,dont belive me? try it.." yes... this phenomenon is exclusive to the 360. /sarcasm If you're so confident in that statement take your PS3 with MGS4 inside and knock it around.
I'm still trying to figure out how something could be spectacular and desperate at the same time lol. In past experiences if anything truely desperate turned out to be spectacular it was sort of a lucky thing. But hey, I was happy with the line up before now so anything new and possibly "spectacular" is great. Not that i can really afford much more after buying my new samsung 40 inch. I guess M$ will own my soul soon enough ; ) (And only kinda in a fanboy way lol)
Pick just 2: Steel Battalion Viewtiful Joe Shenmue: Trilogy Duke Nukem: (place title here) MGS4.5 FF(cough...## who cares?) Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena Panzer Draggoon: Rebirth Alan Wake
Steel Battalion Lost Vikings
I do not understand why so much hate for Microsoft. Every time something happens in the game industry with Microsoft all I see is “ooo I bet they paid a lot of money for this and for that.” But when Sony has to announce something it is because they are Sony and not because they have money. This is a business people and it is not Microsoft’s fault they have money to burn and others do not. I am new to this site and in the past few days all I have read is people going back and fourth about my system is better then yours. My question is will it matter who is in First, Second or even third place this Gen. To me I would have to say no as I will still get great games from the Big Three. I will be picking up MGS4 today and I can not wait for GeoW 2. I do not see Microsoft’s announcement as desperate but more as “Hey more games to play later on this year.” When Sony is ready to announce their games at E3 I will also be up front and ready to play as I am a Gamer and I plays games not systems.
Welcome to N4G. There are logical, intelligent people here that actually work in the industry but they are often drowned out by the Sony and MS haters. All I can say is use your report button, the bubble system and maintain a level head and hopefully we'll see this site return to it's roots as "News for Gamers" and not "News for Fanboys to Kick and Scream About". OT I agree with your argument. Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are all in business and any fanboy who thinks they exist merely to please them is a sad individual lacking meaning in their lives. They exist first and foremost for money, if great games are a result of that, regardless of platform, that is good for gamers. :)
man a cookie!!
@ super Thanks and I look forward to seeing how this whole thing turns out.
but everything and anything related to MS on this site, is either 1.Conspiracy 2.Money was payed upfront/involved 3.Ridiculed or downplayed/They are desperate. 4.I didn't like it or was excited anyways. 5.These "game" is or them "games" are better, (Game list Comparisons) 6.If all rational fails, uh-no here comes the infamous "RROD" Anyhow that's how it goes on here. If this was an announcement for a secret sony game, I'm sure you would see awesome responses as to what games "maybe". But get used to it buddy....
In many ways I agree with you mate - theres certainly too much company loyalty on display in here and not enough pure game love! But with regard to the specifics of MS 'buying' something, that's almost forgivable, as the company has a history of simply buying its way into any market it wants and then using its considerable muscle to destroy any competition. Its the reason they have lost so many anti-trust law suits in the U.S. Asia and Europe. Anyone who knows about coorporate history knows that MS are more guilty of this than any other company, so though it fuels stupid assertions and fan boy stpidity, its not difficult to see where it comes from! :) As for what this article refers to - it must be the motion controller. I KNOW it exists, and there was completely playable stuff for it at the end of last year, so it must be launched soon. Videogaming 247 are not at all critical of MS (indeed, I think they are often extrememly supportive), so they would not describe anything else other than the motion add on as 'desperate'.
I have noticed recently that there is a slow influx of true gamers or at least logically minded people that are starting to come to this site. Hopefully their voice is not drowned out by the fanboy rhetoric. Great post my friend. A lot of things that go on about this site makes you question if these fanboys have stock interest in these companies, then i would understand their fanaticism, but unfortunately from some of the responses you can see that they are just mere children that enjoy themselves in a pissing contest. But there are some good people on here who are truly capable of great discussions, don't let the fanboys frustrate you, it'll soon get easy for you to drown them out and find some truly respectable people to have discussions with on this site. As far as the title is concerned, i don't understand why they would say that. I mean i thought the 360 was doing well, still selling the most games, and is #2 worldwide. Second place does not seem that bad when you are #1 in selling games, and as we all know, the profit is in the game sales and it makes developers want to bring games to your system. MS is doing great this time around, and they keep making it hard for me to save money. I don't know how people can say MS and desperate in the same sentence. It's like anything good they do, some of these sites put a negative spin on it. I guess it's just for hits, because las time i checked, it was cool to hate "MS".
'Welcome to n4g'? No welcome to the internet....welcome to reality. why so much hate for MS? because MS behaves in an anti-competitive manner...which has been proven in court time and time again.
who's in Denial.... name one company that doesn't the same things MS has done. I'm not condoning it, but every company wants to make a profit, and would try to shut down their competition. You are the one oblivious to reality. So it's not O.K. for MS to do it, but it's o.k. for other companies because they are not as big as MS. Please, you wanna take that hypocritical nonsense elsewhere. Did MS hurt you in some way, were you one of the owners of a company they bought out or just beat with maybe a superior product. You hate a corporation for what, doing what corporations do. They are in the business to make money, no one thinks of them to be honest, they are worse than lawyers, now that's a heavy burden to bare. Since you have so much hate for MS, why not direct that hate and anger for corporate practices at something more damaging like "Healthcare companies" they need more heat on them. So, i guess you must hate At&t also. They were found to be creating a monopoly and where ordered to break up. No company is honest or needs your adoration, they all have done underhanded things, it's just that the really big named ones make the press, who's in "Denial" again. Oh and if you haven't noticed, this is about MS and "gaming", take your corporate hate rhetoric somewhere people might want to hear about it. As you can already see from your previous posts, the comments you are spouting aren't welcomed here. We, who like gaming, want to know and speculate what MS is bringing at E3, you on the other hand want to ruin our enjoyment in the discussion of "Gaming". So go somewhere, just not here.
If Microsoft wants to spend money to invest in a game so that they can provide a better experience for their customers (though it is something they make money on) where is the problem with that? It is well within their power, and honestly, they'd be stupid not to try and provide a better experience than the competition, because if they didn't, they would be indistinguishable. Honestly, Microsoft being willing to pay for exclusives and putting lots of money into first party development makes them a great gaming company. Their customers have invested in them, so they reinvest in the customers hoping to continue the circle and make more money which they can use to make their lineup even greater. When Sony came out and claimed that they would never pay for exclusives, it really only showed how stuck up they were. Instead of "we'll spend money to make the experience for our customers better" we get the "meh, we're better than Microsoft, we're too good for developers."
You are on the wrong site if you want unbaised, logical & analytical viewpoints. Great place for some gaming news & alot of rumors, speculation, & occasional FUD. Bad place for intelligent conversation. I mostly read the comments & laugh.
You are my favorite new N4G poster. You always have a level head and an open mind. Bubbles for you 4-eva!
I totally agree! When I hear that their "could" be a couple more 360 exclusives I basically jump up and down with joy... Same as I did a week or so ago when I heard their are a coupld up-coming major hitters coming for the PS3... I quess the ones that hate,are the 1 console owners? The ones that cannot afford another console? They hate the thought of missing out,so they knock other consoles. Could the games be Alan Wake and Castle Wolfenstien? Or perhaps an all new IP? Can't wait to find out...
Yeah it took me a couple of months of adding people to my ignore list before reading comments became bearable. After a while you dont know what half of the people are talking about but most of the trolls get drowned out its a give and take type of deal.
I doubt Microsoft would sound desperate. They pay good money for reps who could sound confident no matter what they're telling you. I'm looking foward to E3, but judging by the last few E3s, they'll probably just tell us more about the games we already know about, announce a couple of small new titles, run of some sales and download figures and finish up with gameplay footage of Gears 2, which would be welcomed but wouldn't show much. I want to see some Fable 2 and Gears 2 gameplay, though, i'm particularly interested in Fable 2. Co-op just sounds brill.
Halo Beach Volleyball? We Sports Too (packaged with Wiimote clone) ????
Something with their new (rumored) motion controller
I almost guarantee it'll be the official unveiling of the motion controller (Newton?). I'm thinking a price cut ($50) as well.
The source says the titles are focused at a MS perceived shortfall in Q4 this year for the "core" market. Looking at Sony's announced E3 list, I'm guessing that refers to Resistance 2 and Motorstorm 2 because MS doesn't have any first party FPS or Racer announced that could compete. So based on MGS history FPS/Shooter: Halo Chronicles, Huxley, Brute Force 2, Conker, Perfect Dark, "Newton" shooter. Racer: Forza 3, PGR 5, an unnamed Turn 10 project. I know Lips, Ninja Blade and Scene It 2 all mysteriously disappeared from their recent showcase, but I would certainly laugh if Scene It 2 was to be unveiled as a "big" title. My money for spectacular is still on Alan Wake, Forza 3 or Halo Chronicles. Interesting goes to the "Newton" controller, Rare's involvement and any titles. And a bit desperate would have to be "Newton" casual titles or a B-grade FPS. Only five weeks to go... Personally Alan Wake and Forza 3 would do me plenty. :)
This is pure speculation and wishfull thinking on ny part but you know that techland have been very quite this year on Warhound and as of last year they did not have a publisher for the game on the 360. What if Microsoft publishes the title?They could show it at E3 and could release it as a sort of Killzone 2 rival for spring next year.It really looked promising from a technicall and graphics stand point. But as i said it's pure speculation.
@green That's another title I hadn't thought of! But to be honest I like the fact MS is stretching beyond the FPS and into other genres. This year's lineup is incredibly broad compared to previous years (only one shooter!) and when you take in the third party exclusives the amount of Strategy, Adventure and RPG titles is very impressive. If they release the Newton with a games pack, and announce Alan Wake and Forza 3 it'll be a perfectly balanced portfolio for Q4. Halo: Chronicles, which has been ramping up development the last three months would be icing on a very tasty cake. :)