The recent confirmation of Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition brings up a number of serious questions.
Except that Sleeping Dogs is a bonafide classic.
i don't think it can or will benefit from the power of the new consoles maybe a better resolution and steady 60 frames but no better textures or better lightning but this is just me guessing.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I really loved Sleeping Dogs. I wasn't expecting anything going in, but after playing it I fell in love with the game. It was a fun game, with really good characters, voice acting, and a surprisingly good story. Sleeping Dogs was very well done and if this will make it possible for a sequel than I am all for it.
Did you play the PC version with the high res texture pack? They should be able to port the PC version mostly 1:1 to the PS4 and X1.
The terms Reboot, Remake, and Remaster are not properly used anymore. Sometimes it's just a polished port people.
Highly praised and classic are not the same. Sleeping Dogs is too new to be a classic. For a game to be considered a classic, it has to be atleast 2 gens old.
Tell that to naughty dog for the last of us. Possibly the most pointless so called remaster. The game isn't old at all. I say all remasters should start from Xbox/ps2/GameCube generation.
Honestly considering anything a classic is nothing but an opinion... I for one believe ( my fave game of all time btw ) is MGS on PS, but I know people who don't like MGS so it wouldn't even be close to a classic for them. It breaks down into categories just like music does, there's mainstream and there's underground etc. hell I mean there's people who are on the GOW article saying it sucks blah blah blah but to me I'm like you must be out yo damn mind if you think GOW sucks ( Kratos should rip their head from their shoulders lol ). Another factor that also plays into it is the non backwards compatibility issue for people like myself that traded their PS3 for a PS4. Not everybody has the money to keep all their systems or people just might not like to keep their old systems, who knows. Like I said though it's all opinion and in mine they should've made the consoles backwards compatible ( BTW I also know the reasons why they didn't ) but hey I can't have my way all the time and that's just life... ;)
The way that things are going this generation, I wouldn't be surprised to see HAZE remastered...
I'd settle for FUSE.
I'd prefer Fuse reverting back to Overstrike. That looked interesting, Fuse came looking dull, even with the cool weapons.
I sure as hell would. First off Free Radical would have to rise from the grave.
@NiteX: Crytek owns all of Free Rads IPs now.
@ Dasteru Ok, now that we've got that figured out, you can start sending Crytek e-mails demanding a remaster of Haze. @ ValKilmer You contact Insomniac, and take care of things on that end. Let's reconvene once the two of you have completed your tasks.
Only played Sleeping Dog demo but now having the chance to play the next gen version I'm look forward to it.But want to see classic like Jet Li: Rise to Honor or Chow Yun Fat: Stranglehold with better frame rate and graphics.
Sleeping dogs is made to look next gen
To some people Sleeping Dogs is they're favourite open world game of last gen. It was actually a great game, and much better than Watchdogs in the story and driving mechanics department.
If there's one game I really want HD Remastered from last gen, it's Red Dead Redemption and Revolver
While playing AC4 yesterday I was thinking the same thing.
Hell yeah, Red Dead Redemption deserves a next-gen release.
I honestly don't mind if it's a game which just came out last year, is a classic OR is a highly rated game which people want. Sleeping Dogs however is none of them. For me I would like to see Game from Last Year - Puppeteer since not many people got to play that. It went unnoticed in my opinion Classic - Max Payne and Max Payne 2 because I feel that Max Payne 3 was anything but a MP game and I want some MP goodness Highly Rated Game - Uncharted trilogy where Drakes Fortune looks good as Uncharted 3.
The only problem is that those selections are so opinionated that any game could fulfill them. Highly rated to me could be 80 or above, 90 to another, or 95 to another. Classic is any game that anyone grew up with, so obviously it's going to vary to pretty much every old game that had any sort of appeal. Game of last year- Let's remaster Ride to Hell because it came out last year, didn't it? Any game that came out a year before wouldn't be a bad thing to be remastered, right?
Highly rated...WHICH people want I said Classic...everyone can agree on some classic games. Highly rated, sought after ones. Game from last year would obviously be the good ones, not shitty ones like Ride to Hell. I think your looking into what I said above too much. Obviously I don't mean any old game willy nilly.
That is your opinion my opinion is Sleeping Dogs is a hit from last gen that got overlooked and just like your pick for Puppeteer.
Difference is Puppeteer only came out last year the same time as the PS4 came out. Sleeping Dogs has been out for a while so more people have had the chance to play it. That's why I chose Puppeteer, that and it did well with it's reception making it a solid choice to get a second shot.
@ foxtrot It really does not matter. You are simply stating your opinion on what games qualify to get remasters, whether it came out last year or 20 years ago is irrelevant. It all comes down to replaying or finally playing a game on current and relevant hardware something you can't do with Sleeping Dogs. This game gets another chance to get fans and I am for it because the game will have an opportunity to get a sequel and not only that a successful one
Your opinion is your own, but it routinely sucks. Who are you to decide what games fit those criteria for anyone but yourself? Maybe you didn't like Sleeping Dogs, but it has something of a cult classic status within the gaming community. Apparently, the demand was high enough to warrant a remaster. Whether you agree or not is extremely irrelevant.
I only came here to say that this title is totaly dumb and I am not going to read this article. the end .
This is hysterical.
I love how these people complaining act like it's some how a bad thing for these remastered games to exist. If you're not interested in it then don't buy it, simple as that.
People like to think these remasters take away too much resources and is the reason why all these big games take so long to make. They don't want to accept these big ambitious projects take a lot of time to make, devs and publishers have to keep their IPs alive and relevant as long as possible and same goes for their name, or else these big new sequels may not be the big success they were hoping for.
Who the hell cares. If you don't want it don't buy there is nothing wrong with giving people a new experience. Yes i know people i know it's not new but every year that goes by people buy into the consoles revolution, it can be just got old enough to get one or afford one. Giving someone all the options makes 100% of the people happy those who didn't get to play and want to get to experience the game in better quality and those who don't want it don't have to buy it. For those of you who think it takes away from the developers making new games why do u think they are all being made at the start of a new cycle not everyone has the ability to make a amazing game with new hardware right away so make a game you made before but better aka Halo 2, then you know what your working with and we get better games. How do we not benifit.
i love remasters/hd/definitive editions. i think everyone wins. its the game you love touched up to be prettier and for those who havent played the original they get the same experience plus some. for instance i havent played the last of us but when i pick it up i get the same experience plus improvements/dlc
Listen, no one person has the right to say what can or can not be remastered, every game serves a different purpose for each person, I find posts like this to be very selfish.
I actually don't mind remastered games. The price I think is what's turning people off. Charging full price for an old game doesn't seem right, even though devs have to put a lot of work into it. I wouldn't mind seeing a remastered God Of War series, similar to how XBOX is doing Halo.
Wasn't the GOW series remastered last gen?..
Must admit, I wouldn't want to re-visit already remastered games, I'd like Metal Gear Solid 4 to be given some of that treatment.. we never did get Metal Gear Solid 4: Substance!
Remaster dead space please
The first one hell yea! Remaster is a tricky thing.. IMO a remaster of a game like tlou that came out pretty quick needs a ton more content for many to justify it again, I have it again so don't flip on me. Now a remaster of halo.... The way ms is doing it is the ultimate remaster but then again a remaster of a game with a long history like halo shouldn't have a problem with over kill, in a good way obviously, with content that a new classic like tlou can't compete with IMO nd capitalized on the resolution and fps war.. I'm not saying tlou is a bad remaster at all... Just saying there are different levels of a remaster and the mcc remaster set the bar extremely high.. Again don't flip I'm not saying tlou is bad at all cause I love it but if you don't see the how high the bar has been set by mcc the. I don't know what to tell you other then I own both, well I have mcc paid off, and fully support both remastered with my money..
First of all remasters rarely cost 60 bucks and secondly nobody is forced to buy them. Sleeping Dogs is one of the games I bought on PC including all the DLC so I don't have to buy it. Many others didn't play it so if they want to play it on mext gen with better graphics compared to the last gen consoles why not offer it to them?
I don't think it matters Devs can make whatever remasters they want, no one is forced to buy any of them Unless devs are literally not making new games in order to remaster their old ones (which isn't happening) all the announced remasters shouldn't be upsetting people as much as they are
Remaster shenmue 1&2. End of story.
That would be amazing. Touch up the models, textures, lighting, etc, slap some heavy duty AA on, then run the games in 1080p.
I have both for my DC and play them from time to time and would love a remaster. They would need more than just a touch up though, but a complete rework would be needed. By todays standards the models, animations, lighting and texturing aren't great so all of that would need to be redone fully. Nowadays textures are greated in very high resolutions and afterwards downscaled, I don't think that was the case back in those days. On top of that the geometry should be redone because it's all very blocky. Plus the audio would need to be recorded again most likely because again by today's standards the audio quality isn't acceptable. It is possible that they have higher quality audio files. And the controls need to be redone because they are horrible. While I would love a remaster it would be mean a huge amount of work. Just doing somewhat better textures and upscalling it to 1080p wouldn't do the series justice.
remake or reimagine. whatever it is called. remaster would be pointless.
How about a HD remake of Onimusha or bushido blade or something? Sleeping Dogs looks good enough as it is, as did The Last of Us, and Tomb Raider. I think these devs are just trying to milk now.
disagreed, saw the pc version and consoles just looked terrible. didnt stop me from playing it though. actually would probably be a bigger jump compared to tlou.
I don't know man, I have Sleeping Dogs on PC and it looks fantastic to me. Graphically it's on par with Watch Dogs. Not sure how much worse the console versions looked but I think this is just a big waste of time. I'd rather them work on a sequel instead.
sequel would be better. however it only takes a few people to port this, probably would have nothing new when compared to the pc so it should be even easier. this game went through development hell, not sure how much S-E paid and i wonder if united front team made any money. so a chance of sequel maybe very low. this rerelease is probably just to get nack some cash they lost. console version looked very average, not much going on in the crowd tbh and since its set in HK it should have double or triple the amount of people atleast. the pc version seemed to have a lot more people walking around (from what i saw)
Now that you mention it, this game probably would benefit from a re-release. It really is an amazing game and deserves more attention than it's received. It sorta reminds me of Shenmue with a GTA twist.
No. I think HD Remasters should be reserved for great games that didn't sell as well as they should have. Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs, Beyond: Two Souls, Heavy Rain, etc, are all great candidates for HD Remasters.
what this author doesnt seem to understand is that ps3 and 360 was very far behind towards the end of the generation. sleeping dogs on pc was another beast with more things on screen. smoother fps. dmc with 60fps looked amazing. alos author seems to want every game ported apart from those 2 :|
Why not a remake of even super Nintendo games like super punch out with ranked duels, chrono trigger with live co op, remake of the original silent hill and silent hill 2, and change the gameplay a little and have the pyramid head come out more often...
I'd like them to start looking further back then simply last gen. The differences between last gen and current gen are arguably negligible. This is mostly because improvements in graphical technology have slowed to a crawl. This means that the leap from DX9/OGL 2 level graphics to DX11/OGL 4 is more like a short hop. But go back to the PS2 or PS1/XBOX era and there are a wealth of classic titles that are crying out to be remastered and would be a real example of how much remastering can truly benefit older games.
People think that in order for something to be remastered it has to be pretty old, the age has nothing to do with it. Remastering is all about enhancing the original regardless of age
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Monkey island special editions were great remasters, I will happily take more of those type of games redone.
SE got a lot of gems to bring to the HD era Parasite Eve Soul Reaver-Blood Omen FF 6,7,8,9.
Considering they've done tomb raider, hitman, and now thief games I really would like to see a Soul Reaver. That game was so great IMO. Of course the FF games would be awesome too
I'd rather developers release remasters then dlc's but that's just me. Let these guys release what they want and if you like it, then buy it.
HD Remasters of Destroy All Humans 1 & 2 please. :)
People rewarding them for this should be put in a cage, seriously. It's just making the industry worse than it already is.
AMEN! at least 10 yrs old too!
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