Hardcore Gamer: They put in time making a product, giving you the definitive version of their game, and you will have to buy it to play it. That's just sort of how this works.
I already have the original on PC so I'm good with just that really... will wait for the next proper Metro.
Yeah why not just charge us for sequels instead of cashing in on remakes during a drought? This trend looks like there is no end in sight until 2015. This has to stop. 1080p and 60 fps won't make it play/look that much better if it is just a mere port.
These remakes are most likely going to fund the new Metro. I for one can't wait. My PC couldn't play the first one and I played the second on PS3. So I'm going to be able to play these how I wished I could have. Also though this will probably be my last remaster purchase for a while because of all the new games coming in Sept and on.
I bought 2033 redux as I think it will be worth it (half price since own them on Steam). However I didn't see the need of picking up LL again as already own all the DLC as well so it is mostly just for people that never played it yet (imo).
They have upgrades to LL also but 2033 is getting the biggest changes. If you were totally happy with your experience with LL though I can def see your reasoning for not rebuying. I am getting the physical Redux PS4 version so I can loan/trade with friends and family after I beat them. I have had interest in the series as a Fallout fan and this will be a great way to experience the two games in all their glory, polished and perfected. Been messing with LL since I got it through PS+ (was close to buying it new but was occupied with other games.) but decided to not finish it since the Redux announcement. Love trying to play non lethally against humans.
I like this because I didnt get to play the orriginals. So now I get to and remastered at that. So, hell yes they should charge for them. You think they just snapped their fingers and it was remastered. It takes a lot of work and the marketing and production of the game are labor intensive and takes time. All of those things cost money and they should be paid for their delivery. Simple as that. I will be buying this one for sure.
I haven't played any of these games either. As for the people who rant on about remakes being cash grabs and rip offs; I have truly come to believe that there are people who will complain about anything and if they can't find anything to complain about, they'll probably start arguing with themselves.
I'm with both of you guys. Remakes are great for people who didn't get a chance to play the original games on the system they came out on. I'm one of those that missed the last 2 to 3 years of last generation due to burn out. So these remakes of these great games I didn't get a chance to play, are like a brand-new title to me. On top of that, like a final generation, best of the best version of those games. I think the people that complain are under the impression that they are using valuable resources that could be spent bringing a brand-new game out... Instead of working on these remixes. But, they really aren't. They put a small team to the task of upgrading the visuals and getting everything running decent, while including DLC or anything else that was released post launch on the last gen system's. Giving people who didn't play it and fans of the original game, the best version of that classic title possible. I'm not really sure why this irritates some people so much. But, as you said, some people will complain about anything just to hear themselves complain and others will join them just to be part of the opposition. I cannot wait to see how good GTA V is.
LOL I agree. It is true that if there is nothing to complain about externally people will complain internally.
Also Metro 2033 never was released on PS3 so for people who own PS4 Metro 2033 would be the first time it was released on a Sony system.
You are right. If you played it already and not interested then don't bother with it just ignore it let those who haven't played it or enjoyed it enough to buy it again be happy with its remastered release
I've bought a few remakes. I think they're great. Obviously you can have too many. I think a lot of the complainers think they're being milked or something. Remakes you often get more than one game or 3 games in one plus any DLC (sometimes). People seem to want things for free or next to nothing. I don't have a big gaming budget and Plus has given me lots to play
Even though I have both Metro 2033 and Last Light I'll be buying the Redux just because they put a lot effort into it.
agree. no mater if you have the game or not, everybody should buy it because the effort put into it.
Really? If I already own the games.... I should buy the new ones just because they made them? What's the logic in that?
Same here.4A deserves it.
Even though i cant stand remasters. This and MCC are the only games id consider buying.
Not surprised that you'd slam TLOU for being a remaster but be excited for Halo.
But TLOUR doesn't add anything new on the table.Basically same graphical fidelity and game. You can't tell the same for Redux and MCC.
I didnt mention TLOU...by your logic im slamming GTAV as well.
So not mentioning every remake remaster is somehow slamming them?? He said what he wants to buy with HIS money. Sheesh I myself will be getting redux. Im on the fence about MCC. I played TLOU and IMO I feel TLOUR is just a better looking version of the same game I played on the Ps3. I never read once that they were tweaking the AI or anything else. It was just a visual upgrade. IMO I feel thats not enough for me to purchase a game I just got last year.
These remasters don't really bother me either. just because I may not be interested in rebuying a game I've already played doesn't mean that other people aren't interested in it. It'll only become a problem if/when it hold developers back from creating new games.
I somehow managed to never play them and gladely take the remaster for the Metro games.
nobodys whinning, the only ones whinning are kids, and the only dum***ses listening to them are people looking for an excuse to write a shi*** article like this one just to annoy the f*** out of every one on this site
I had Metro 2033 on 360 but never got that far into it. I regretted that later when I played Last Light and missed bits of the story, and had to just follow along the best I could. I thing I'll be getting this one to have them both together, as well as having them improved graphically. Not only that but the first game has been upgraded with all the features from the 2nd game like improved AI, stealth mechanics and weapon handling all the DLC and its cheap too. Sounds like a good deal to me.
What you stated is what has me interested. "Not only that but the first game has been upgraded with all the features from the 2nd game like improved AI, stealth mechanics and weapon handling all the DLC and its cheap too. Sounds like a good deal to me. " They didnt just go in and up the Resolution and FPS. From then 4 minute video they put more into it then that....and thats why im buying it. I feel a remake that doesnt try and improve the gameplay/AI/story etc is a waste. Take TOmb Raider for example. I played it on the 360. Got it for X1 (rented) didnt get to far in it. It was basically the same game..with shinier paint. (now for those who havent played ...I say get it. Very solid game!) Plus they are two very high rated games for current gen for $25 each!!!! Never played 2033 and only played Last Light for a short time. So I look forward to games like this when it starts to get cold on the east coast.
I would be more supportive of remakes if they didn't outnumber the new, original games.
Never played it. I may pick it up. Reminds me of fallout.
It's not the idea, it's the price. When we got 3 or more games in HD (that required a lot more than simply re-rendering a game) we were paying 40 bucks AT MOST to get them. Then we hit a drought, see these "super HD" releases coming that really are not that big of a leap AT ALL still cost 50-60 dollars? How does that make sense? I played Tomb Raider, TLoU, and so on and if you didn't already own these games, it's great. Those that already own it hardly see a difference. If you are a frame rate scrub, then by all means, it means the world to you.
Imagine if when you upgraded your PC you had to pay extra to increase the settings on games you already own. That's what these rereleases are. If you are buying it for the first time then sure. But if you are paying 50 or 40$ to pretty much increase the settings on a game you already own you deserve to get slapped.
I would agree in some case (TOmb Raider, TLOU) as far as price is concerned. But in this case its $49 for two full fledged titles with the DLC. Upgraded visuals. Upgraded AI. Upgraded look to the oxygen mask counter thing lol. Thats $25 each for two SOLID single player games. That were highly rated upon release. And like someone else pointed out 2033 was never on the PS3 so there alot of gamers who NEVER played a METRO game.
This generation is going to give a whole new meaning to cash grabs, and the poison has already started flowing.
So true. Developers crying that its so hard to make a game at 1080p and that you can't just flip a 60fps switch when putting a game on new hardware. yet if upgraded my PC the only thing I would need to do to play any of my games at 60fps 1080p on my new hardware would be go into settings, tick 1080p and tick lock frame rate at 60. Lol just like flipping a switch.
4A seems to be getting in the habit of more and more cash grabs. They make good games, but im throwing them in with naughty dog, their not to be trusted to not drain their committed fans dry.
Remasters are fine in my eyes. The game came out, sold a few, and quickly went to the Steam sale/bargain bin. Why shouldn't these devs have another shot at placing their games in the spotlight? There hasn't been a remaster yet that wasn't originally a fantastic game. I for one fully support this.
"Stop whining" Couldn't have said it better myself.
Metro Redux represents everything RIGHT about proper HD remakes. Its not just pretty and faster. Its been worked on from the ground up, and you get two games for less than the price of one. Just look at the vid here: http://youtu.be/IZwVvl71JnM The Last of Us, Tomb Raider - Both ripped off their fan base. Plain and simple. MGS did the same with that 2 hour demo for $40, then $30 now $20 (when it should be free). Metro is a lesser known series so gamers think they can crap all over it and say "well I can hold out", "I can wait", "why are they doing this?" Fact is they are offering a fantastic deal for those that don't have a high end PC, and even those may want to consider because significant changes have occurred down to the game engine level and play mechanics. NO OTHER HD REMAKE has done that. In fact the same ol bugs and new ones have been reported in The Last of Us. That's proof that not even a pass was attempted to fix the issues. This was resting on their servers. Now you think about that.
TLOU I played and what made me NOT want the remaster was the fact its JUST a visual upgrade. I was waiting to read something regarding the AI or somethig in regards to the enemie seeing Elie. Nope...all the touted was the upgrade in visuals. And having the same bugs and minor issues...WOW really?? So they didnt bother trying to ..I dont know do more then up the resolution/FPS. Cash Grab??
I never played the Metro games last gen, so Redux will be a completely fresh experience for me. I'm definitely picking it up.
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