The Xbox one and PS4 versions of Metro Redux go head to head against last gen in this Digital Foundry Analysis.
1080p, rock-solid 60fps, with those visuals. Seriously impressive stuff. I'm glad I didn't play the last-gen versions.
I laugh at those claiming these next gen consoles are no big leap. We had games that made last gen consoles drop to their knees and cry at sub 720p30fps resolutions. Now look at them. A full blown 1080p60fps without breaking a sweat.
With effects updates too ;)..... For the price they really are not bad machines.
And it's not as if it's some graphically-basic title, either. It's a very, very good looking game, especially out in the open areas. Which makes the 1080p 60fps more impressive.
Guys, no one noticed the new exclusive from Microsoft in that article ?! the new exclusive is .....912p Resolution ever heard of that Resolution before now ?
big leap from 2006 technology what do u expect but quite crap compared to mid/high end pcs
People who complain about 720p this gen need to realize just how many AAA games last gen were sub- hd
"but quite crap compared to mid/high end pcs" You mean those same PCs that also dropped to their knees and cried while trying to max out these games? ;)
"Keyword is last gen. This is next gen" actually it's current gen
@ Future_2015 Yeah, ok...."quite crap", whatever you say. Call me when you can build a PC for £350/ $400 (even cheaper elsewhere) that could run this game, with those visuals, at 1080p with a rock-solid 60fps. You PC elitists are hilarious. The PS4 can finally run games like this at 1080p 60fps, equivalent to 'high' settings on PC, but you still bash it and compare it to modern high-end PC's in order to maintain your feeling of superiority. Why don't you just give it the praise it deserves? You would need a much more powerful and much more expensive PC to run this game at the same settings as the PS4 with a rock-solid 60fps.
PS4 full native 1080p. Xbox One newly exclusive native 912p. Will Xbox One continue to struggle and have weird variable resolutions from 742p to 998p? 720p or 1080p. Lets keep it simple, no more upscaling from weird resolutions.
@Lukas_Japonicus To be fair, the the Metro series has been notorious for it's optimization. This is from a fair chunk of developers who made the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series which was also notorious for it's optimization problems, they're based in Ukraine where working conditions are less than satisfactory, frequent power outages, government snooping, freezing temperatures, no heating et cetera has followed with both games development. Metro Last: Light for the same reason was a behemoth of a game to run on a solid frame rate on PC. Make no mistake, if the original release was ported to current gen consoles it would be a train wreck just the same to run without stripping it down. The Redux release however appears to have given the series it's much needed optimization to run well on all platforms.
Great respect for 4A! They delivered a TRULY REMASTERED Metro games for PS4/Xbone/PC. And 2 games for only 50$. Take my money. Nice to see 1080p/rock solid 60fps on PS4. Metro 2033 are notorious for optimization on PC.
@CernaML Last Light wasn't actually that hard to run surprisingly on the PC (Original 2033 was a system hog) It only brought higher end set-up to their knee's when you enabled Nvidia Physx, Tessellation & SSAA 2+ but with those things off and the other settings on high the game ran and looked great, really impressed with 4A.
"PS4 hits its 60fps target at full 1080p, while Xbox One currently stands at a curious 912p native resolution - that would be something in the region of 1620x912 (assuming square pixels). The original plan for Xbox One was to ship at 900p, but the June XDK update (returning the Kinect GPU resources to developers) has allowed for a tiny resolution boost" Honestly, what's the benefit of even bothering to bring up the resolution by 12 horizontal pixels? That resolution isn't even going to scale well, is it? So much for the June SDK making games 1080p.
Making this monster run at 1080p 60fps is a big achievement. This game is a mammoth hog on PC. They've massively toned down the lighting, tessellation and Physx but even still it's running how it should be which makes me happy - 60fps! Lovely and for a $400 it's good value. The is a great game and way under appreciated. Enjoy it fellas
I played Last Light when I had gtx580 and it couldnt handle the game on max settings. Lol @ ''June XDK update (returning the Kinect GPU resources to developers) has allowed for a tiny resolution boost[12p]''
Lol your so full of it. I have 570's in SLI which is equivalent to a 580. Ran the game on max no problem. Just had to turn down the aa to 2xmsaa.
ps4 is not running this at max PC settings, "Some of the high-end options found on PC don't make their way across to the Redux - if tessellation is utilised, it's to nowhere near the same degree as the PC version for example, and extreme rendering options like super-sampling are obviously off the table too. "
@rip_cell You already know ps fanboys are not going to listen. In their world this game is maxed and performs better than anything on pc, even though it's missing features and that this upgraded version is on pc too with better performance and feature.
You ran the game at max settings, but with certain settings not at max. Are you sure that you get the whole "max settings" thing?
Anit-aliasing is usually considered separately. Nobody expects to have to ruan a game a 8x SSAA or something ridiculous like that in order to say you have, for all intents and purposes, maxed the game.
@starchild, that's what PC Mustard Race likes to argue about, when the article's main comparison is really between the PS4 vs. Xbox One.
Were getting spoiled with these remasters. Keep em coming. Never play a Metro game but have this preorder, cant wait.
I barely see any major difference to be honest, looks more like a PS3 port running at 1080p / 60fps and not a pc port running at very high. [email protected] Comparison .png http://saved.im/mty4ndg5cjm... http://saved.im/mty4ndkwzzr... http://saved.im/mty4ndkwewm... ... didnt they delay this, from early 2014 or late 2013 to summer 2014? Kinda a ripoff to me, 40€ for a 1080p boost-upgade?
Lmao. *Wants to make a point* *Uses YT screen-grabs* Smh....
lol the highly prasised June sdk update let them go from 900p to 912p. #XBOXFail
The graphical differences in last light are miniscule because of how recent it is. Metro 2033 has had a LOT changed and I wish the submitter would embed that video as well.
Actually the graphical differences in Last light between last gen and PC is massive. The PC version was beautiful, and I don't expect next gen to reach Last Light on Max settings (Requires a Titan model GPU) But I do expect a noticeable difference when you play both games side by side, than again their team wasn't good at optimization. And Metro 2033 was another poorly optimized game. So the differences between last gen consoles and maxed out PC are massive, which is why it's expected for this game to look good on X1/PS4. But if they just cut the FPS (It doesn't need 60 FPS...) they could've done a bit better at getting it close to PC.
this is one of the very rare games that I'd like to buy despite having a metacritic rating less than 85.Only thing that worries me though is the replay value.
You rely on the opinions of others to make an objective decision about what games you play? I never understood why people let Reviewers be judge jury. Sure Metacritic is an accumulation of multiple reviews but there are some heavily underrated games that you may enjoy because you LOVE that idea of game. For example...If you were a metal head and you didn't play Brutal legend because it's Metacritic was 82, you missed out... If you like an amazing Psycho thriller experience, and you didn't play Alan Wake because it's Metacritic was 83. Got to ignore Metacritic, unless you're on the fence about a game. If it's the first thing you go to, then you'll be missing out on a lot of great experiences.
Withdrawing from the bubble bank now... Well said sir ;)
I agree with you. Reviews can be useful but you really cannot go by score. At the very least, read several reviews from trusted sources to find out what exactly bought the score down. Some games almost sound like 9's when reading the review, but some minor issues build up or maybe there is just a bad ending etc. Doesn't mean the game isn't awesome, it just means they have to be fair and take off points for things. Also, watch gameplay. I mean if a game seems like something you don't normally like, and it reviews poorly, then ok. But don't just look at a number and turn down a game.
I agree 100% I have owned a xbox one since it came out and i am not disappointed like alot seem to be. Games like Ryse and Forza 5 have kept me entertained along with titanfall and the multiplats i have. Ryse is horrible says everyone BUT me and titanfall i will never play call of duty again now i can't play without wall running and being able to go anywhere on the map not just look at the things.
wait you only buy games that have 85 metacritic rating or more?! i feel sorry for you
We are all our own best reviewers but I do understand that spending money will nilly isn't feasible for all especially with the cost of living nowadays. Relying on reviews for guidance isn't strange or uncommon. Having a meta bar isn't silly either. You may miss a lot of experiences but that's your prerogative. We've all enjoyed games others have shitted on or hated games most people or reviewers love. . It's how it goes guess
your comment makes no sense to me.
Most of the time,yes but I do some research before purchasing that's why I said rarely. it's that I don't want to be a collector this gen like last gen.I spent over $1200 on games that I am selling now.I don't want to spend a fortune with this gen.Proof of that is that I haven't bought any game yet on my ps4 except my bundled game and flower which I bought with the $10 voucher that came with the console.Also not to mention Ps plus,that service saved me a lot.
Dat 912p!!!! I am pumped! Gonna go out and buy the XB1 version and play it in glorious pixel bursting 912p on my Plasma 2day !!!!!!! These resolutions for the Bone are becoming more and more intriguing. 792p? 912? Possibly 882p on new COD later this year. Pretty freaking sweet!!! All kidding aside at least they got this to 900p - nice to see them use the 10% reserve to bump the rez and help the framerate. Da Bone Train yo!!!!!!!!
Well to be fair, 1080 is deff what you would hope for. But honestly the diff sure isnt that serious on my 42 inch screen. I have even gotten to play some games on both my ps4 and xb1 and it never really blew my mind. If you have an xb1 only, or simply want to get this game on x1, then it is nothing to get all that upset over. But again, to be fair, yes, 1080 is obviously better.
This is a must buy for me and the price is great €39 for two games.
Dear Mr X, MrCTeam, Mr X Media etc etc, all your internet names. DX12 gave XBOX One an extra 12P 900P+12P =912P Sincerely, those who arent your disciples.
DX12 isn't fully released yet, surely you mean the 10% kinect reserve being released. If you're going to mock at least try get it right
Considering Mr X diciples are expecting a 2nd GPU to unlock. . . you should realize you have a higher chance of drawing blood from a stone than to expect a massive difference in Xbone performance. It still is a 7790 - 2 CUs. So, a 10% boost in performance got them 12 lines. Sounds bad regardless.
Didn't people say that by removing the reserve for Kinect the Xbox One would be able to play all games in 1080P? And in this case your saying that it only increased the resolution to 912P. So what's going on here? I'm really confused because I swore they announced a 900P resolution for this game in the beginning and I thought removing Kinect would give the Xbox One a lot more power like with Destiny going from 900P to 1080P.
Can we cross off the next "secret sauce" on those viral images of "things to save Xbone" now?
day one buy for sure for my PS4, no need to mess around with configurations files, patches, install issues, update drivers issues, unoptimized headaches, waiting for a mod to fix it (lol true fact) Yes this is what I was expecting from my PS4 full HD , great frame rate right out of the box.
"Yes this is what I was expecting from my PS4 full HD" Stop trolling, because we damn sure didn't get that from Watch Dogs.
yes a couple games are below 1080p most are 1080p so which one would you expect ??? Ill give you a hint 1080p, so what masterfox wasnt trolling at all he was just stating his expectations of THE most powerful console ever made so far.
These are 2 games no serious FPS fan should miss.
Amazing job by 4A developers not just gfx but all the new features added.
10% kinectless ;)
More remakes. New games please. If I wanted last gen games at a higher resolution I'd just play then on my PC.
Looking forward to this in two weeks.
So this is the "big" resolution/ performance boost given by the 10% reserved GPU? 12p?!!! And screen tearing?!! They should have kept the 10% GPU as reserved for Kinect and implement interesting features in the game. IMO it was a bad decision to free the 10% GPU, instead of using it for game features. This would have been the only chance for XBOX ONE.
Yet you don't mention the screen tearing they noticed in the FMV cinematics on ps4
My comment has nothing to do with the graphics/ performance differences between ps4 & done. My comment is about the 10% benefits after releasing the reserved GPU resources.
To answer your comment, the screen tearing in the FMV cinematics should not be a hardware performance issue, but merely a software bug which will be patched.
912p for xbone LOL what a massive fail of a next gen console.
+ 12p for a last gen game??? Buahahhahahahahhahahahajajajaj a!
Lots of trolling going on here as expected from N4G.
looks fun for a shooter but something in the visual style is way off.
I see the children are out in force today .
In MS defense about the res. The dev could have put the power to other uses instead of RES.
Will buy the Redux someday. already bought both for pc and got last light with ps+ for ps3 so it can wait a little. but this seem like a good remaster/collection deal and my pc have crapped out on me, so cant finish last light on there yet. Laptop... never again... Besides my ps4 needs more games. 2033 with last light engine and gameplay, both games in solid 1080p60fps??? http://img.pandawhale.com/p...
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