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Submitted by matgrowcott 37d ago | news

Metro Developers Explain why Redux isn't a free Upgrade

Metro 2033 and Metro: Last Light are being re-released on PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC later this year, and while owners of the original titles on Steam are getting a 50% discount on the upgrade, some members of Valve's community are angry that they're not going to get the improved versions for absolutely nothing. The developers, 4A Games, have taken some time to explain just why that is, and it goes far beyond the "don't be greedy" that it could have been. (Metro Redux, PC)

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Scark92  +   37d ago
Out of all the remasters, this seems like the most impressive.
Pintheshadows  +   37d ago
Agreed, they have gone above and beyond. The fact they have transplanted Last Light's improved mechanics into 2033 is testament to 4A's dedication.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   37d ago
Agreed.
1nsomniac  +   37d ago
Most definitely, this is what all remakes were like back in the day before all these developers started getting overly greedy & lazy!!

It's nice to see a developer with a bit more to them than just shipping a simple copy & paste port job. Spending their time improving it rather than spending all their time & resources with pure bs & marketing crap.
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MasterCornholio  +   37d ago
And the price for them is fantastic. I'm definitely picking this one up.
ghostface9  +   37d ago
I would have to say second behind halo master chief collection but this is a really good one too most of the other remasters have been updated graphics and fps and thats it
stutfly  +   37d ago
I think it is a close second to Halo: the Master chief Collection. But still a very good remastered collection.
Hellsvacancy  +   37d ago
They get a 50% discount and they STILL complain? "DON'T PLAY IT THEN YOU BUNCH OF WHINNEY IDIOTS" would be my response
iNFAMOUZ1  +   37d ago
Keep calm and serve your self a bowl full of chillios
Hellsvacancy  +   37d ago
Funny but NO

I bought The Last Of Us and all the old Hitman games, does that mean I can demand the releases for free? the PC folks are not special
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KonsoruMasuta  +   37d ago
Work was actually done on this release. These aren't minor changes.

There is no reason for people to expect it for free.
Volkama  +   37d ago
The reason is cd projekt red, aka the patron saints of respecting gamers.

4A are doing ok by me. I will buy the 2033 redux as that looks to be fine value. The last light not so much, but as I only paid about £2 for the original I may pick up the redux for the sake of supporting the dev.
ninjahunter  +   37d ago
Haha, and what makes it even funnier is HellsVacancy with the first response proving the point.
SuperBlur  +   37d ago
Speaking from a PC player perspective, I cant get behind this . They took a year to do it for Ps4 , Xbox 1 and again on PC , i'll let you do the math on how much "hard work" they really put into this one for the asking price, they could of easily given it free of charge to those who bought the game prior to X date to avoid abuse.

"Here buy the same game again with updated graphics and bug fixed for 50%OFF If you own the "beta" version already"

w/e
GearSkiN  +   37d ago
I appreciate the team for explaining about the remastered
x_RadicalAura_x  +   37d ago
Simple: Because it wasn't free for them to remaster it for the PS4 and Xbox One.
Qrphe  +   37d ago
Because it took work to get done

Some people are just way too entitled
Volkama  +   37d ago
The complaints are over the last light, for which the PC version is pretty much the same as the existing release.

I can understand the feeling that the upgrade should get a bigger discount than 2033 as it offers so much less. But $12.49 is hardly an act of greed or evil, and as the dev says you can just opt not to buy it.
Darkwatchman  +   37d ago
What a genuine response. I'm beginning to respect these guys.
SuperBlur  +   36d ago
Would you respect Naughty Dogs if they had re-released The Last Of Us on PS3 with improved textures and bug fixes that the other version didnt ?
Darkwatchman  +   36d ago
what
SuperBlur  +   36d ago
If you bought a game on a console for the full retail price and a year or so later the same game was to be released on the very same console with improved texture and bug fix , would you sincerely respect that? or would you feel it should be part of a free update? You basically paid full price to beta test the game so they could sell you the full experience later.

I can understand the need for money when bringing a game to a different platform , you need to pay the royalty fee each console ask for but on pc, on steam especially .. you dont have to pay Valve jack poop to patch your game
Hazmat13  +   37d ago
we'll seeing how the remade metro 2033 with the new engine and also added more thing in both games this is well worth the price.
ShaqSoda  +   37d ago
Should I get this or the upcoming diablo game? I haven't played any of them before.
Skate-AK  +   37d ago
Both if you can. They are not like each other at all. I am getting both.
stripe814  +   37d ago
i never played this so i find this one new for me
tigertron  +   37d ago
Seems like a good answer. It seems like the most impressive remaster to date and the fact that they even offered Steam users 50% off is surprising. We didn't get any discounts for Tomb Raider or TLOU.
Darkwatchman  +   37d ago
Actually, for The Last of Us, trading in your ps3 copy at gamestop would get you the remaster at half the price
SuperBlur  +   36d ago
You went from a console to another , it is expected to have to buy again unless said console has BC..
ramiuk1  +   37d ago
pc owners moaning about paying £10-12 for a game and DLC lol.
typical
Volkama  +   37d ago
Console owners not moaning that they pay $60 per retail game lol. Mugs.
ramiuk1  +   37d ago
i never moan about game price ,i just either buy on release or not buy.
and i never paid full price for a game even on release.
i just preordered redux for ps4 for £16 delivered
Seafort  +   37d ago
It's £16.98 on steam with 50% off if you already own both games.

I should know I bought it last night :)

I'm happy to support 4A Games.
brich233  +   37d ago
I'm pretty sure it wasnt free for the deveopers to remaster everything.
andydalum  +   37d ago
I don't understand it Halo MCC my most anticipated collection is receiving praise and rightly so, the next best remaster that has been announced in quality is this and people are complaining about money off what the hell is wrong with you people.
The_Eternal_one  +   37d ago
Looking forward to this since I never played them. I was gonna play the version we got from ps+ but I rather play this.
lemoncake  +   37d ago
From what we have seen so far it looks like they have put a lot of work into it, it goes well beyond just a high res texture pack and some buffed up effects and shadows.
Volkama  +   37d ago
Totally true of all versions of 2033, and totally true of the console versions of last light.

The complaints from steam users are about the PC last light redux, which has seen far less changed from the original but which still costs a bit.

Note I am not one of the complainers myself. Just explaining what is actually being said by the people that are.
Dirtnapstor  +   37d ago
This remastering of 2033 looks incredible. I'm sure LL will turn heads also.
I just don't get it...anyone with a lick of sense knows upgrades like this come at a cost. I'm sure if nothing had been said about LL, steam users would have been silent right?
Quit squawking, and pretend it never happened, just continue to stroke your keys.
miguelr23  +   37d ago
While i love TLoU i wont buy the remastered version just because it looks better

4A Games actually improved their games and its sad not all developers do that they just "milk" us with HD versions of their games...

i will buy this and from what i've seen in the trailer its easily the best "remastered"
SilentNegotiator  +   37d ago
Because they did additional work and don't feel a need to give it away for free.
ninjahunter  +   37d ago
I think its arguable that last light should not cost as much as it does for such a limited change, metro 2033 on the other hand probably took quite a few hours to get done.
1886afc  +   37d ago
not complaining, paid $5 each on pc
nchizimbi  +   37d ago
I respect 4K Games' statement
I can't complain over the upgrade being a "pay" than "free" product to my being an already excisting Metro customer.

I bought both 2033 and Last Light over Steam, shortly before the announcement of Redux. I'm still yet to play the originals due to "life" LOL. When the announcement came days later after I bought the originals, I wished I'd waited, but there's no way knowing these things. I'll still play through the originals and buy the remaster later on.

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