New leaked PS4 model number suggests Sony is gearing up a 1TB SKU for this Fall.
Shoulda been 1TB from the start. 500GB is way too small when you're dealing with game installs that are 40GBs a game.
I'm sure Sony wanted to keep the price down as much as possible. I will say 400 dollar for 1TB storage would be one hell of a deal though. The question is how much will this be?
Probably $449.99 USD.
@SonyPS4 Most likely $399. 500GB Moves to $350. If they are really smart, the Destiny Bundles will be 1TB Models.
@Eonjay sounds about right. 399 1TB console would push even more units for PS4. But at the same time its sort of a shun to early PS4 adopters who spent 399 for less memory only to come out with a 400$ console with more memory. 399$ could happen but I'm seeing at least 50$ more bringing it up to 449$
I hope the Destiny bundle is 1TB, I got it pre-ordered
It'll be 400$. They've sold enough to found ways to cut the price of it. Also, TLOU Bundle is 450$ Canadian dollar, the same as an non bundled PS4. If you're close to the border, this might be interesting. Obviously, 500Gb isn't enough, altough you can easily manage your data and delete games you aren't playing. Re-installing games on the PS4 is significantly fast and only takes less than 30 seconds every time. Unlike the other 500Gb console. It takes less time installing TLOU one time on the PS4 than loading TLOU on PS3 every time. Save files stays on the console. And personally, I think going with 500Gb HDD was the best decision simply because if they had gone with 1Tb or 1.5Tb, they would have needed to cut down elsewhere, like on the power and performance of it.
The PS3's HDD got changed several times during the years from 20&60 GB earlier to 40 and then 80 and then 250 and then some with 320GB and the real difference in price was only the one with 12GB flash. The others didn't basically change in price. So I think it would be a safe bet that we'll see a $399 1TB model next year while they phase out 500GB models
It's probably going to be at least $500 I bet. The greed is real
1TB is too small, should be minimum 3. I have 6 in my pc alone, let alone the 96 in my server
Your PC DEFINITELY doesn't cost 399$. Console is a machine for a simple human who doesn't play 50 or 100 games every year, he buys a console to come home from work and sit with his friend and play FIFA for example. He doesn't need 2 or 4 TB storage.
@auto fire Thats good, but I thought the PS4 only supports hard drives with a 2.5in form factor, and I have yet to see any above 2tb. Unless this newer model PS4, can support both 2.5in and 3.5in size drives then go nuts, if not anything above 2tb is moot at this point.
1TB is starting to feel a little small, considering what I want to get down the road. I should have upgraded to a 2TB (though, this probably shouldn't have been a problem, if the system could stream from the BDs). I didn't anticipate the file sizes for games that I have the discs for, they are massive.
Go back to the forums Auto =P
96TB!!!! HOW MUCH PR0N DO YOU WATCH???
Oh you got a link to a site selling 3tb laptop drives. Because 3.5 inch drives aren't helpful for the ps4. 1 tb would have been more than enough for launch or the first yr, likely people will need 2-3 tbs to cover them for whole gen. Assuming they are going digital only, do not want to be frequently deleting and re-installing game data, or a big on the recording and streaming features.
Can you building a gaming PC that performs at the same level as PS4 for $400? I will wait for the answer.
It's an obvious move that has to happen. While 500 GB wasn't enough, the price of the PS4 made up for it. By the end of the generation, we'll look at 1TB to be a very small storage capacity, like 60GB is now for the launch PS3. I think that in a few years there will be PS4 and Xbox One SKUs with 10-20 TB. However, it's great that they made the process of upgrading the HDD very easy.
Sony did made it easy to upgrade HDD in both PS3 and PS4 by designing the console for that, SATA HDD, to just swap them, providing utilities to backup/restoring system data and so on without voiding warranty. Kutaragi said from the beginning that storage needs would increase as time goes, so no point shipping with built-in HDD, he was an engineer, genius and visionary. On the other hand the same can't be said about MSFT, X360 not possible, on X1 only if you are a tech nerd and are ok about voiding warranty.
Currently the largest hdds are 6 tbs, those are $300-400 atm, the consoles will likely never need 6tbs of storage space for games. Both consoles had a laughable amount of storage space at launch compared to pc hard drives. Short of extreme storage needs, businesses ect 10 to 20 tb drives seem like ridiculous overkill to me, but 15-20(whenever windows 95 came out) yrs ago i thought 6 gigabyte drives were huge so who knows.
@overlordror: It's difficult to disagree with you on that one but I think it's simply what AngelicIceDiamond has said. I wouldn't put any stock in these new model numbers as any indication that the PS4 is getting a HD upgrade. I'd say they're more about cutting costs and improving profits. That's not to say it's unreasonable to 'guess' there could be a price drop this Christmas though. I suppose the perfect scenario would be: Release the 1tb version at the current pricing and reduce the 500gb version for $50 less.
1TB is sufficient, 500gb is not.
"1TB is sufficient" Let's see if you can say that in two years! As i said, this generation will end with even 50TB HDD.
Needing 50 tbs now your just being ridiculous, i seriously doubt current hdd technology can scale that high. I'll be surprised if platter drives hit 20 tbs before getting either replaced entirely or altered to where they share barely any resemblance to it's predecessor.
That would be nice, as I'm most likely getting a PS4 at some point.
Who keeps 40 gigs of games all the time ?. I delete games after ive cleared them 100%. You never play many games at once... if its a multiplayer game you like you keep it. Thats simple. Ive deleted Ac4 black flag, knack, need for speed and infamous second son. Why keep those games when you have cleared them ??...
You make the most sense out of all the comments I read here.
40gb is like one and half games and if you download games having to delete them would be annoying. Having more space is never a problem.
me too. i finish a game i delete it,same with ps+ games,if there crap i just delete them. only games always on console i a shooter or and sports(for online element) it takes so short a time to install i dont know why u would need to keep them on. i have played every game on ps4 and my HD is not even half full.
I'd rather have a smaller hdd size, and upgrade it myself. It's much cheaper that way
It wouldn't be an issue if it has external hdd support of up to 16tb. sony need to do what is readily available on a competing console. The max of 2tb of internal hdd swapping is not a good option to many owners.
I am 1 of those people that dont delete any game at all because I dont always finish games straight away as I want them to last a long time.I also have a few games that I want to redownload that I cant because I dont have the space I dont mind having stock 500gb the same as X1 as long as I can do what I have done with X1 external 2tb.
Max isn't 2TB. There are just no 2.5" drives bigger than 2TB right now. However, one user has jerry-rigged a 3.5" 3TB drive, and the PS4 recognizes the space on it. http://community.us.playsta... The pic of it is about halfway down the page. Given that it can read the whole space of 3TB drives, the likelihood that it can read up to 16TB is probably there given how these things work. Only downside to this method is that since it uses a separate power supply, standby mode doesn't work, and of course you have a free-floating hard drive laying around. When HD manufacturers end up getting around to making 2.5" drives with more capacity, they should work fine. But will agree that having an external option would be nice.
to me i don't care either way. once i beat a game 100% then I'm done with it and it gets deleted. 500GB isn't enough if you don't complete games. i rarely replay games so no point wasting hard drive space.
Very likely. I remember when GAF user nktrnl rumored 7 months ago a Xbone SKU with 1TB in November this year. Time will tell anyway.
Just got my ps4 yesterday...oh well
Return it and wait for gamescom at the very least.
how can he return it if he opened it ? stupid trolls don't think.
It can be done. I have done it before. most stores have at least a 30 return policy on consoles.
You can just get a bigger HDD and replace the 500gb one. There are good prices on hybrid HDDs and the new model will most likely use a normal HDD.
Hard drives are so darn cheap nowadays it's hardly worth worrying about. I just brought a 2TB drive for $75, and it wasn't even on sale. In a couple years when you're likely to need to upgrade the prices will be even cheaper, with even larger drives available. If we're lucky, SSD will come down to a reasonable price.:)
Yessssss pls be $400
The HDD's are easy enough to change tho.
they need to get external hd support out soon
Ordered the Destiny ps4 bundle but I already bought a 2tb HDD to throw in there when it arrives.
1 TB should have been in all the consoles. You can get a HD with 1TB for damn near free anywhere. Especially with the all digital future these companies are pushing...2 TB should have been the standard. Just another reason to not buy a console day 1.
Red, I see your point, but how much would you pay for such a console? After all, the platform holder like Sony needs to factor in costs or risk selling at a loss for each one right? Then consider the economy as a whole too. The PS4 as it is now, has great value and thus why it is selling so well at $399. It wouldn't sell as well at $449 or $499. $299 or $399 has always been the sweet spot for consumers in terms of buying a new console. 500GB is enough for me now, simply because I have not yet filled it up (even with all the free games and Digital games I have bought) but when it does, I would rather have the option to buy bigger sizes at damn near free like you said.
plus you have the option to delete for some space, and return to that content when you get a bigger hard drive. if you have a PS4 right now, no need to do something drastic until next summer at best.
These companies buy parts in huge bulk and because of this they get special deals and discounts. Not to mention costs of a 1TB HD are extremely low. I really doubt that Sony would have to jack up the price of the PS4 substantially to cover the cost of a bigger HD. 500 is big enough for now but with all the plans Sony has for their system for the future 500 will not be nearly as big. 1TB should have been the standard, for anyone with a 500 gig they will have to upgrade on their own. And if i'm not mistaken the minute you replace your HD you void your PS4 warranty. If this is true then that sux for any 1st time buyers.
@Gangsta When the PS4 released, and was first being manufactured, a 1TB drive was close to $100. a 500GB drive would run you about $60. Both on the cheapest end of the spectrum. The price difference today is about $20 between the two. Sony and MS may be getting discounts, but that $40 extra would still be there for them, which would only drive the costs up for the end user.
That's cool. $450 seems like the sweetspot
It'll be $400. The cost of 500GB and 1TB are not wildly different and it was reported recently that Sony has already reduced manufacturing costs of PS4s. Another reason to keep it at $400 is to checkmate the XBox One's inevitable price drop.
That would be awesome at $400 to those that are on the fence, but have yet to purchase a PS4. They can however, reduce the cost of manufacturing on the PS4, provide the 1TB SKU for a little more and increase their profits for each one sold.
this will be priced $400 guaranteed..$450 for canada
What is the biggest size HDD the PS4 can take?
2TB....until they learn to make larger HDD's in such a compact space...
However big you can find a SATA HDD in. At this point, I don't see them above 2Tb
It's unknown. 2TB is the largest you can buy at the moment to actually put inside the machine. However, another user jerry-rigged an external solution with a 3TB drive and it worked. http://community.us.playsta... Pic is about halfway down. If it can recognize a 3TB drive, then it can go up to 16TB. When that size becomes available to purchase however is anyone's guess.
I dont think we will see it until they could cut costs of each console enough to sell it at 400, and still make profit. And maybe drop the price of the 500gb? I see it happenimg late next year.
U can get a 2 TB replacement HD for $100
should've been 1TB to begin with and offered a 2TB as a later model. My 1.5TB in the ps3 and 2TB in the PS4 don't cost a lot. A 1TB practically costs the same as a 500GB..
you can go on amazon and get a ps4 below 400 bucks
soon see at gamescom on Tuesday :D my ps4 has a 2TB in it any way
The price difference between the two is so miniscule that the only viable options are probably $450 new SKU or flat out replace the 500GB model at $400. IMO both systems should have more than 500GB. It would be great if by time I bought one the HDD was larger and as for my Xbone I will probably just use an external HDD. Those who actually think the system is getting a price cut must live in a fairy tale land where a best selling system in high demand is dropped in price to be sold for a loss.
Xbox one has external option though
"as for my Xbone I will probably just use an external HDD" Reading... What a wonder
might see a big game bundle (knack , KZ and an other) at $399 with 500gb , and the base 1tb model with no games at 399$ , good way to dump old stock while the transition to the 1tb model .
I would just replace it for an Larger SSD? Best thing I have done on my X1 was adding an external SSD, games load much faster! Everyone who got hybrids drive's for their PS4 will tell you the same, much better, plus the 1Tb model will probably be HDD anyways.
Hybrids aren't initially faster. But, once you get that data on there, it is a difference. Don't know if I am willing to pay the price difference right now for a few extra seconds. But, there is a difference for sure.
If it does happen then I'm guessing that the 1TB SKU will be 399$ and they will clear the stock of the 500GB SKU by dropping it to 350$. Sony can afford this easily with the way the PS4 is selling.
I will probably upgrade my launch Sony PS4's HDD sometime next year when all the games start releasing. I don't even do digital and I'm down to like 190GB