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Who Will Be The Second Place Console This Generation?

Depending on who you ask, the current generation first got underway when the Wii U launched in November of 2012, or else the race finally started when all the consoles came to market in November of 2013. Regardless of which date you choose to go by, one thing that’s clear is that even though this generation is just getting started, the Big Three have already sharply defined their respective positions for global sales. Sony has so far made few critical errors in terms of pricing and marketing, and they’re sitting in the #1 position both worldwide and in many of the bigger markets for games. Microsoft is sitting at #2 thanks to some serious PR, pricing and policy blunders leading up to launch that killed the momentum they were previously enjoying as America’s favourite console.

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Concertoine1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

I think MS has more potential than Nintendo. I mean the Wii U, even with a market much bigger now than 2001, is selling worse than the gamecube. Even then, MS' first console on the market beat the gamecube. However those two consoles are perfect examples of why "places" don't matter. The Xbox was a commercial failure and the Gamecube was a small success. These companies need to make money, and Nintendo has more potential to make profit because of the crazy dedication to their software, and the little to no loss on hardware.

The one thing Nintendo has over MS is the Japanese market but they don't care enough about consoles for it to matter. People act like the Wii U has been outselling it forever but it was only after the biggest exclusive for it this year.

I love the Wii U, though. I think it will be remembered fondly.

Ezz20131166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

All shall fall for the Mighty Ouya
http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/...

ape0071166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

edit : sorry guys i though the article was (who will be 3rd place)

Infamous2981166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

@Ezz2013 that gif was hilarious xD. Time to open my bubble wallet :).

InTheLab1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

God dude I hate to nitpick but the GC was a commercial and critical failure. Nintendo made no money off the GameCube for 3 years before they finally reduced cost enough to make money on each sold....which still wasn't enough to break even.

People continue to say that the GC and even the N64 were profitable and that is a flat out lie perpetuated by people who where not there to witness the nonstop price drops and stores with shelves filled with Cubes and 64's.

As for the topic, MS will catch the WiiU this year or early next. Unless Nintendo finds the casuals that won them last gen, they will pull up the rear and everyone will magically forget that the WiiU is losing Nintendo money and call it a success 10 years from now.

There's just too many games not coming to the WiiU for it to be anything but a secondary console with PC/ps4/XB1 the primary.

ABizzel11166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

I'd bet on XBO, but honestly it really depends on who drops their price first, or the lowest.

Nintendo needs to cut the price of the Wii U to $250 or less ($229) in March 2015 (American income tax season). Because I guarantee you MS is going to have a $349 XBO no later than April 2014 if their WW sales don't stay steady after their WW release.

If MS sees their numbers fall back down towards the 70k mark, that price cut is happening, and they're going to try and suck up all the income tax money, but if Nintendo gets it first then they're set for at least 1 more year ahead of the XBO.

However, it's inevitable. Nintendo's strongest market is Japan which is the smallest market of the big 3, and MS strongest market is NA which is the biggest of the big 3. The XBO has already outsold the Wii U in NA, and outsells it weekly by about 13k units, meanwhile the Wii U sales in Japan (8.5k) aren't enough to break even with the lead MS has in the US each week.

EU (the Wii U's worse performing region) has ironically been the Wii Us saving grace against the XBO. But when the XBO launches in more regions that sales cushion the Wii U has will likely be terminated.

So ultimately the XBO should take 2nd place, but Nintendo can put up a good fight if they're willing.

Concertoine1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

@InTheLab

Although i'd like to actually see ANY data regarding the profitability of the gamecube before i agree with you, my point still stands.

The Gamecube was MORE of a success than the Xbox, despite coming in "third place", because the Gamecube didn't lose the company anywhere near as much money as the original Xbox.

Also i'd gladly challenge you on the Xbone outselling the Wii U by end of this year or early next. I believe it will eventually catch up but Nintendo's holidays are always much better than MS'. The Wii U's second christmas almost outsold MS' first.

BullyMangler1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

hahahahaha haaaa!!!!! . .

If you guys seriously think that the console with the most (sales) is the one in the "lead" when it comes to G A M I N G then .

ahhhh! . ahhhhhh! haaa haaaa! haaaaaa haaaaaaa!!! . .

PS4 in the lead with the most sales.

wiiU in the lead with better higher quality, more CHALLENGING, more IMAGINATIVE more HARDCORE exclusives.

and neither Bayo, nor Zelda, nor Metroid for wiiU are even out yet, and already, already Nintendo DOMINATING the Gaming Culture ! .

ho ho .

choujij1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

Considering the Wii-U is currently in second and the rate they've been selling the last few months, Xbone will need to pick up steam in order to pass the Wii-U over the next couple of years. After all, didn't Wii-U just last month outsell Xbone world wide? You can't catch up unless you're selling more.

Since the PS4 is the preferred platform for multi-plats, Xbone doesn't have nearly as much going for it this gen as opposed to last gen. So for second place I'd put my money on Nintendo, cause their exclusives stay put and don't end up on PC or other consoles.

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ape0071166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

yep xbox one almost reached the wiiu sales without its big guns(SM3DW and MK8) and without having an extra year to sell

i believe halo MCC will stir lots of sales

Insomnia_841166d ago

1.PS4
2.WiiU
3.Ouya
4.Vita
5.Xbox One

mrpsychoticstalker1166d ago

Hahahhahahahha only in your dreams. Lol

Fanci1166d ago

@Insomnia Hold it down on the fanboyism

greenlantern28141166d ago

Yes most likely MS. Nintendo could learn something from MS about marketing. Although Wii U could keep it interesting as they find a place as people's second console.

sAVAge_bEaST1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

please. NO.. I would sincerely hope that Nintendo takes no Pages, from the M$. Astro.Turfing/Marketing Ways.

just be your self.. Nintendo.

We remember our youth, and want to pass it on. 2 future youths... watch the sale's boost this holiday.

rainslacker1165d ago

I agree on the marketing, although I can say that Nintendo does have a couple of compelling games coming, namely X(or whatever it's called now), and I guess Bayonetta 2(less compelling) if they ever get around to releasing it. Then of course they have their staple franchises. A bit disappointed with the next Zelda game so far though.

One nice thing about Nintendo is they do make some games which break from the norm and sameness that we see on the other two.

I think Nintendo just set themselves up well to be a secondary console once someone chooses their primary, and they are doing a lot better now than I assumed they would.

greenlantern28141165d ago

@sAVAge_bEaST. I want Nintendo to be themselves to when it comes to making games however You cannot denie that MS markets there product better. The fact that XB1 has an advertising campaign and the
Wii U's is virtually non existent says I am right

k-dillinger1166d ago

i think its safe to say its gonna be Nintendo worldwide appeal opposed to Microsoft just america once the games like zelda and smash bros its pretty much over for xbone

Magicite1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

Probably NOT Playstation console.

But with current pace both xbox and wiiU might become worst selling consoles from their respectful owners.

assdan1166d ago

I'm pretty sure it's the xbox one.

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Ezz20131166d ago

I used Logic and analyze it with science
those will take the 1st and 2nd place

1.Ouya
2.Vita

DigitalRaptor1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

Not completely.

Realistically, the only things that will stir the Xbone above the Wii U are Halo and Gears. You're forgetting that Wii U is yet to release strong titles like Zelda, Smash Bros, and the plethora of Mario games that never fail to push their consoles.

Then again, MS has the huge third party multiplats and Nintendo don't, so that could be a factor. It could go either way.

BiggerBoss1166d ago

Nintendo would have to really step up its marketing for that to happen. MS goes hard on advertising and has a secure hold on the US market (compared to the Wii U of course). I think the Ps4 will be a good amount of marketshare ahead while the Xbox one and Wii U are much closer in sales, similar to the 6th generation

kickerz1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

Yup it goes
1. Xbox one
2. Wi U
3. PS4
And yes I've been to the future, so what I say is fact.

GT671166d ago

Happen to run into Doc. an Marty future boy?

kickerz1166d ago

Haha yup, I asked him why we havnt got hover boards yet in 2014, he said something happened to the space-time-continuum last time he traveled back in time. Couldn't give me details though.

ChickenOfTheCaveMan1166d ago

You should not have wasted your opportunity in the future by going there high as a kite. Easiest gen to predict.

1.PS4
2.X1
3.Wii U

And the gap between the positions will be large, biggest being between the X1 and Wii U.

lizard812881166d ago

That is what I would say. Nintendo has better exclusives, while the xbone's will just wind up on the PC. Then it just comes down to third parties, which you could just buy on the PS4.

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Metallox1167d ago (Edited 1167d ago )

Does it matter? Xbox One is selling enough to get the multiplats. Wii U on the other hand carries the horrible relationships that Nintendo has with other publishers and it's underpowered. But is starting to sell better, so perhaps it could get some third titles, and it's even more possible considering the fact that publishers are still making games for last gen.

I don't think we should look who finishes in second place, we should just expect good sales for all platforms so we can get more games.

Vegamyster1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

The Xbox One isn't on a path right now to outsell the Wii-U at this point, the reason the Xbox One is getting multiplats is because that specific audience who came from the 360/PS3 buys 3rd party games, the Wii never got into that install base since it was aimed at a different market. If Nintendo had gone after that audience and had better relations with 3rd parties then they'd be getting those games on the Wii-U. Thing is Nintendo doesn't seem to care at this point and they need to improve those relations and their online infrastructure, hardware doesn't really have anything to do with it since the weaker 360/PS3 are getting 3rd party games that the Wii-U isn't.

Dunban671165d ago

Eventually XB1 will outsell the Wii u and in the end it will not be close

Both consoles have struggled so far but XB1 has 3rd party support and an exec team that has already shown they wil not sit back and do little or nothing while their sales don t meet expectations - Nintendo did very little until the latest e3 to help their cause and even then they addressed issues that should have been addressed at launch or close - once the games start rolling in for XB1 and PS4 they will both see a consistent increase in sales

stuna11167d ago

The one people buy second!/s

Pinkdolphinyfg1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

Funnily enough people are already declaring a winner this early even though the ps3 had an even bumpier start than the xbox one last gen and still managed to close the gap. I mean look at the ps3 in 2008. They had lost Final Fantasy and Gta as an exclusive, price was insane, other than mgs4 they had no big exclusives whereas Xbox had hits like Halo 3 and gears of war, money hatted the Cod 4 beta which was a surprise hit, party chat was a big feature, developers across the board hated the cell etc. Yet both consoles ended up selling 80 million with only a 1-2 million difference.

sashimi1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

Huge difference is Xbox brand is simply not as strong as the Playstation brand. Ps3 had EU & JPN, X1 does not. Its already lagging behind in its major territory which are US & UK. 360 had most of the superior multiplats advantage which X1 does not. PS3 first/2nd party paved the way, MS simply does not have the internal studios to carry Xbox like Sony did with the PS3.

I wouldn't expect much from tier 2 countries, they are tier 2 for a reason. If X1 couldn't even beat PS4 in the US where it sold the lion's share of the sales are we suppose to expect the rest of the world to carry the sales of such a American centric consoles?

some people may say its too early yet look at the WiiU. Beside X1's launch sales its been selling pretty poorly post launch.

I mean sure X1 can always turn around and sell better but from this point in time all signs point to PS4 being the console leader.

OrangePowerz1166d ago

While Sony recovered from a poor start despit the one uear head start the 360 had they didn't actually get that far ahead. Also realistically speaking the 80 million 360 unit's don't really reflect the numbers of users. A lot of people bought a new one when their original 360 died before MS extended the warrenty or traded up later when they introduced the model that had an HDMI port because the first model didn't have one. While it might look like MS did great the Xbox brand isn't that hugely popular.

Also MS only had the US and UK market while Sony had the others. Right now MS doesn't even have those and even if they regain the lead there that won't be enough as we have seen in the past and it's not likely that they get any of the Sony strongholds.

Dunban671165d ago

Xbox sold more software than the ps3 last generation and if you include digital sales they almost surely sold more software than the Wii last gen- so to say their sales numbers weren't t as legit as Sony s or Nintendos is not backed up by any real evidence

I only own Nintendo consoles but depending on the metrics used, the Xbox easily makes a case as last generations winner - considering it was only their 2nd generation they have been impresive up to their 3rd generation were they squandered a ton of their progress they had made w Don Matricks huge destruction of brand and value

DigitalRaptor1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

PlayStation is the stronger global brand. The PS3 caught up cause it was always going to. It came out 1 year (1.5 years in Europe) after the Xbox 360, which got an 8 million unit lead in that time. Had both consoles released simultanously, PS3 would be leading by approximately 10 million units.

Consider that the PS3 was last-gen's whipping boy for so long with all the disadvantages under the sun:
- $600
- awkward and unclear marketing
- barebones online network
- the "no games" stigma
- inferior multiplats
- hard to develop for
- gaming media 'doom and gloom'
- losing NPD monthly

Sony tripped on their own arrogance last-gen, and that was Microsoft's ONE-AND-ONLY chance to trump the PS3, and they failed. PS4 is market leader and has every advantage that X360 had last gen, and none of the disadantages to go with it. Xbox is the weaker global brand, and Xbone has less games, less power, less value, less potential to offer new experiences (VR) and less good will with gamers and developers.

I'm a bit tired of people considering that Xbone has a chance to surpass the PS4, especially after all the latest news. It won't and never will outsell a Sony console in a generation. PlayStation is close to where it was in PS2 era, and you don't surpass a console like that. Just a reality check.