Take this with a massive grain of salt but game enthusiasts have uncovered interesting findings.
Even though this is listed as a rumor, the title is very misleading and clearly a clickbait title
The codes are listed in Valve's New Dota 2 Workshop tools. It explicitly states using Xbox, Dedicated servers. I am not sure how this is misleading.
ekim - "edit: or these are all leftovers from Source 1 on Xbox360... Someone might check the respective files from S1?!" http://www.neogaf.com/forum... edit: Noticed this file is old as hell. sorry http://www.neogaf.com/forum... "I edited my post. I found that the file is old was already used in other games. fakeedit: hm... now that I compare them, they seem quite different." http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Server could be referring to the servers used for connecting to XBL. It's not like it would be using steam servers to setup/manage games on a closed platform. It's is a bit misleading because this rumor was made today there has been enough time to read the thread and see it's not actually what you're trying to suggest. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Link to reticle 15th picture - http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... @nicksetzer1 "Kayant those are completely different code, move on, your damage control knows no bounds. Not saying it is DEFINITELY happening, but that's why it is listed as a rumor." - Maybe you like to read the same thread this info is from and see that the reticle is the same from the orange box on x360, two it has been shown there is other bits of leftover code from source 1 elsewhere. But yh damage control in the face of evidence from the same source.... loool.
I understand what you are saying and it makes complete sense. Its just that over the years, people have basically regarded all Valve rumors with a huge grain of salt due to their incredible unreliability nature. Unrequited Valve rumors have reached legendary status. I don't think it is misleading at all, but we quite literally need an official statement from Gabe and nothing else will remove the skepticism that has become inherent with their properties. Its like the Source Engine 2 stories. It seems very likely that it may have been released, but it is equally as likely that it has not. So, you made the appropriate decision to list it as a Rumor. ... and given Kayant's revelations...
Kayant those are completely different code, move on, your damage control knows no bounds. Not saying it is DEFINITELYor even probably happening, but that's why it is listed as a rumor.
@Kayant First of all the rumor is not about the reticle. It's about Xbox references found in the Source 2 files. The user clearly states this: "Disclaimer: some of them are leftovers from S1 but majority of the references in the engine2.dll are new."
If true then thats a great snag for microsoft on paper.
Key word there guys is MAY. Won't happen unless Gabe fronts up the cash or the infrastructure.
It's not misleading Rashid, he only said it was misleading because he is a SONY FANBOY. Just look at his comment history, particular this comment lol.... Comment1: "I heard a rumour that valve and sony were working on something, tf2 for ps4 maybe? #2 52d ago by TheGreatGamer | View comment http://n4g.com/comments/red... hahaha! so because he heard a rumor 52 days ago that Valve was working with Sony, he made the first comment and stated this article was VERY MISLEADING. Comment2: SH will confirm it in due time young x1 fanboy but digital foundry have always been correct on this stuff and seeming as the trailer said 'Captured on xbox one it would be foolish to not realize it's going to be sub-1080p. #18.1.1 95d ago by TheGreatGamer | View comment http://n4g.com/comments/red... Like I said he prefers Sony, thus why he called your article Misleading.
Xbox servers are used for PC games aswell as xbox. This is probably coding ready for something similar.
Gaben hates MS...
how is it misleading? i read the article and didn't feel it misleading at all. at best lots of games are coming to xb1 and at worst only 1 is. either way it seems something valve is coming to xb1.
How is an article with "MAY" (twice at that) in the title be misleading ? Usually it's crap like "Valve Games Coming To Xbox One, Will Use Dedicated Servers " , and the truth hidden within the article
Not a misleading article in the least. A rather interesting one in my opinion. I think that as a console gamer, this is potentially very encouraging. I mean - MS is obviously opening up a little to allow things like the EA Access and now perhaps they're opening up to Valve. They had a good working relationship before perhaps they're working on making it even stronger? Perhaps you'll be able to access Steam titles as well? Good post.
Hit disagree but meant to agree ;) Maybe this will be shown at Gamescom MS has teased Big Suprises!
Poor guy didn't see the code for Source 2.
I dont care about anything but it being true. I can dream and hope cant i? Pleeease be true i miss valve.
If DOTA, TF2, etc come to xb1 that will be huge. Hope it's true, wouldn't mind playing those games.
Same as that, that would be one feature I would be very envious of, unlike that EA Access bs
TF2 was on last gen consoles
Not standalone, and not F2P so had a much smaller following. In fact, it was almost impossible to find a game. (Even at/near launch)
Only barely in the sense of scale and scope; however, TF2 on the 360 is alive and well. We refer to it as TF2 classic, or gamers without hats.
I'm sure there's tens of people logging into TF2 on the Xbox 360 every day.
@ nicksetzer1 Now FTP games are a big deal?
If true then Microsoft has swallowed all of there pride and struck a major deal with VALVE. This could be MASSIVE.
Valve aren't the kind of company to do exclusive deals, especially not for Xbone considering what kind of console the PS4 is. Andddddd turns out not to be true. Unsurprising.
@Raptor Its fine you flex the PS4 in all but if you flex that hard you may pull something. Either way MS has something brewing. First EA access now Steam is quite possibly involved some how with MS somehow. Gamescom is around the corner.
Also when I try to sign in to Steam, it asks whether if I want to sign in using my Playstation Account, so if this does happen, it would not be only Xbox One, but does not show evidence of PS4 afterall.
Oh man… yeah I completed forgot about that whole Steamworks integration with PSN. Valve had issues with the PS3 in many regards, and as Sony's online network and developer tools got better, so did Valve's attitude towards that system, so much so that they included a free Steam code for Portal 2 in every PS3 box, and had Steamworks integration with the PS3 version. My point really, is that PS4, to the average consumer and the discerning gamer, is in the exact position the 360 was last gen. PS4 stands for an approachable, easy to develop for platform with a brilliant online structure. Valve will not shun that, particularly if it's the console making the most money for the large publishers. Call that "flexing" - I call it being realistic. We always hear rumours from enthusiastic gamers about what is coming for Xbone, and then it ends up either being untrue, or nothing particularly game-changing. Of course they have something brewing, but it's not exclusive deals with a company like Valve, and Steamworks on a console is nothing new and nothing that Valve would deny integrating with PSN.
I gots my pinch of salt in me's hands... But this is a very interesting discovery... Maybe this is why MS isn't in a rush and trying to step on Valve/Steams toes on the pc front
I seriously doubt this means anything. This kind of thing has happened several times in the past where someone discovers something that means nothing.
That's why I'm still pinching this salt :p
If the X1 could double as a Steam Box.. that would be awesome!
Even if it just does the streaming activity, that is quite plausible and quite interesting. The steam in-home streaming works very well. My gaming PC is connected to the same TV as my xbox, so not that useful to me personally. Much rather see something of steam's marketplace come to the system, or some of valve's games.
Either option is an interesting proposition. Same as you, my pc is connected to the TV too but I'm liking having options.
Bring Team fortress 2 please :) I love that game.
This could be huge if true.
I would love for this to be true it would be quite an interesting move for Microsoft to make.
Soooo ... Half Life 3 Confirmed :-)
Well MS always had Valve games since the 360 i dont think see how they wouldnt this gen
Half-Life 2 released on the original Xbox in 2005 as well.
If that's true that will be huge deal for everyone. However it will still be limited version because of the Microsoft policies.
@sho0ok y u gotta be so negative?
Sorry didn't mean to. But what I meant is MS has some policies such as, use their Live network because it's more secure and stable. To me that's not negative, it's actually the other way around. Other things such as achievements, update policies and parity. All will benefit Xbox rather than hurt it.
Phil Spencer does love himself some DOTA!
Doing further investigation led to this: Read an article from Feb 26th about Dean Hall (DayZ Creator) saying interesting things coming to Xbox One. Could it be streaming steam games? Sorry can't post links, but look it up on google.
Gamescon is right around the corner. cannot wait
If he was referring to MS's presentation there...he got the name right.
This, this, all makes sense now...I saw a rumor a while back about Microsoft partnering with Steam or something. This is why all their games been going to PC, it's a conspiracy! I'm jk though...but who knows?
If Steam came to Xbox One I would explode.
So would your Xbox xD jk
You people are truly grasping at straws here. Source is and will be a multiplatform engine. Of course there's going to be references to console hardware throughout the files, that's just the way things work. No, these are not indications that TF2 or DOTA2 are coming to consoles. Why would Valve release either of those games now, when they're still pulling millions of people to their own online service every day.
Well they need some hope to grasp on, I don't mind letting them have it. lol
No one is grasping other than people tracking and trolling XB1 24/7 grasping at its destruction. " I don't mind letting them have it. lol" Are you in charge of the way consumers feel about XB1? Get a life LOL
Gabe has put Microsoft through some shit the last few years. We all know he's an ex microsoft guy. If and only if Phill could pull this off then It may open the fluid gates for the x1. As I have been saying all along, since e3 2013 the moment microsoft stepped of the stage it's been nothing but good news month after month. Microsoft seems to have finally taken off those Nutt huggers they so firmly had strapped to there sack. As a fan of gaming I really hope that something special comes out of this.
But the Xbox One goes against everything Valve has worked for over the years...
i think the only way microsoft can get these games either way is pretty much to comply with what valve wants, like partially bringing steam support to the console, sorta like how PS3 supported it with Portal 2. the same goes with sony, but i think sony would be the ones that can be ok with it.
Steam on psi match made in heaven
This is a wait and see if it happens type of thing.
Gaben isn't on the best terms with Microsoft. This would be surprising.
Agreed... but could some of MS's changes both to Windows and leadership be mending things? I haven't seen Gabe spewing Anti MS sentiment of late but that could just be coincidental.
Interesting. I am wondering if MS's recent changes on how Window 8 interface is working along with changes at leadership may be repairing some of the lost love. Gabe certainly was on the war path of anti MS just a few years back.
Gabe's "Beef" is with how Windows works for a gaming rig, he just doesn't like it. I can't really see how the "new" windows 8 does anything that interest Gabe from a game dev perspective... dude loves Linux!!!
Gabes beef with Microsoft pretty much stemmed from windows 8 initially only having the tiled interface that excluded any outside storefronts. So steam basically was getting kicked to the curb on any Windows machine. But now that Microsoft has gone back and is creating windows 8 to be much more desktop friendly I am guessing Gabe and valve May also be reversing a little bit on their anger since Linux still is dwarfed by Windows as an operating system.
Why is this a surprise? It's as if Valve has never released a game on consoles before... straws... people be grasping. This will some how lead to a Half Life 3 rumor, I guarantee it!!!
Well I guess it's not coming to the PS4 since it doesn't represent any value to it's gamers....and Sony cares about gamers.
I MAY die in a car wreck tomorrow. This article MAY make that ironic.