GearNuke "This article tries to settle if one of the platforms can be declared a winner or if both devices have their own pros and cons which cannot be provided by the counter-party."
I have a console (soon to be a second one) AND a PC. I love both (and imagine all three, pretty soon.) Why do these "journalists" not understand that?
I don't think you read the article, it wasn't much of a versus but instead was a guide or pros and cons, which in my opinion was the most well written and unbiased comparison ever :)
"I don't think you read the article" Have you read it? If so how can you say it's not much of a versus? The whole article is split into subcategories in which PC competes with consoles. At the end of every segment the author crowns a winner. That's pretty much the definition of "a versus". Most of those segments are stating very obvious points with a predictable outcome. Here are some examples: Non-Gaming Uses - Winner: PC Upgrades and Repairs - Winner: PC Mods and Tweaks - Winner: PC That's like saying: Car vs. Motorcycle: Bigger trunk - Winner: Car Having four wheels - Winner: Car Sleeping in/on it - Winner: Car
And you are correct, don't know what else to say I wrote it around 3 am :P it just didn't feel spiteful to me you know? Now that I read my comment I realize it had very little merit.
Agreed! I love the PC for great FPS experiences. But for most things, like platform, driving, sports games, I prefer the console. Don't get me wrong, FPS on console is a lot of fun to. This is just my preference.
Any specific reason? I'm not trying to bash your opinion or anything, I'm just curious. My PC is next to my TV so I can easily just plug it in (or use it as a secondary screen), lay down in my couch and use my controllers if I want to. I guess for some people that might not be as easy to set up though.
@GundalfDeGrej Sure. I feel like I have a lot better control in FPS games, with my PC. With that said, games like Skyrim play perfectly on the PC.., with no shortage of mods! Typically, I spend around $800 a year upgrading my PC. Because that's what I enjoy doing. However, for games like Metal Gear Solid, Fifa, Mortal Kombat, The Last of us, Gran Turismo etc.., I'll enjoy using a console far more. As a personal preference, I simply prefer using my computer for Dev work - as a habit. And my console for gaming and relaxation. Sure, there are tonnes of peripherals for the PC; but in my experience the games aren't always well tuned for 3rd party peripherals. I have 2 PCs, a Mac Pro and a steam account with literally 100's of games. But i'm enjoying the PS4 more than the PS3, even without the heavy hitting exclusives.
does it really matter if pc is stronger or not then consoles, how many times do we have to see articles like this, just play what you like consoles have to be cheap anyways history has shown us that being expensive always makes a console sale bad, it doesnt matter to me which way or the other just shutup about it
"Long story short, consoles and gaming PCs are different markets. Both these platforms attract different groups of people."
Well that isn't true in terms of gaming. There is a huge overlap in the console gamer and PC gamer markets. I call that overlapped segment "people that like playing games".
It's all about the games which PCs are always lacking! Consoles are for gaming, not computers!
LOL. Didn't you know that PCs have far more exclusives than consoles? Not that it matters in this pissing match, If whatever console you play on has the games you want and you get enjoyment out of it then so be it, that is up to you, just don't chastise, debase, slander, or live in ignorance about a platform you chose not to use.
The exclusives that PC has aren't really worth much. They just don't compete when it comes to exclusives you can get on Sony, nintendo or an Xbox. Unless you're living in the past, there's really no reason at all to use a PC for gaming these days! You might as well ditch your cell and stick with a pager then. Lol
321 games on PC, what effing retard put that info-graphic together! Even using something that stupid in a debate renders everything you say or type as invalid. I get that it shows more exclusives but it couldn't be more wrong. Good job failing. 321 titles might be just what Steam has on sale today.
@Wizard_King "Even using something that stupid in a debate renders everything you say or type as invalid. I get that it shows more exclusives but it couldn't be more wrong." Because if a debate opponent says "PC lacks games" and you show that in 2013 alone 321 games released on the platform that is somehow a fail? I don't understand your logic...
@Wizard_King That "retard" (Metacritic) put that graph together lol http://www.metacritic.com/f... @Tekolie Bingo.
That's not true. The PC gets more games than any other platform. It gets 99% of the multiplats. It also gets many games that it shares with either the PS4 (Planetside 2, H1Z1, No Man's Sky, etc) or the XB1 (Titanfall, Ryse, Project Spark, etc). Not to mention all the pure PC exclusives not found on any other platform. There is no other single platform where you can enjoy MORE games than on the PC.
That's absolutely true. Today I was playing L4D2 with some old friends from Uni and then we switched to Titanfall. After that I played some Super Metroid while listening to a Podcast. I'm now about to play some Rocksmith 2014 to practice some Mastodon and later, I might play some Divinity Original Sin. All of that on a single platform. PC gaming is lovely.
And PC gamers don't have to pay for remakes! Was having a blast playing C&C Zero Hour with a bunch of user created maps I'd downloaded:)
That's not exactly true. The original RE is/was available on CD-ROM, but PC gamers will be purchasing the REmake.
My Steam library begs to differ.
@SnakePlissken Lol pc is lacking games here is a list of just exclusives for pc so just imagine what it is like with all the multiplatform games as well.I hope your scroll wheel on your mouse works well lol. https://docs.google.com/doc...
31 Nancy Drew games
You couldn't pay me to go back to PC! Those exclusives are no match at all compared to console exclusives! You are putting yourself on if you think otherwise. No need for a mouse, i use a MacBook. We can't all be stuck in the 90s! Lol
I think they're becoming the same thing now save the keyboard.
I have a keyboard and mouse since 2008 for my PS3 and now also PS4. It comes in handy for certain tasks and some games support it so it can be useful even while playing with a controller. Good example would be War Thunder, m/kb really helps with the cumbersome menus, chatting and such but couldn't imagine playing without a controller. But I do keep my keyboard next to me or on my lap as I binded commands I couldn't fit on my controller to the keyboard. Heck I can even use my tv remote or smart phone to go thru menus and run some things on my PS3. Wouldn't be surprised if these features and more become unified/standard for PS4 (like the app that is for PSN and expanding) and future Sony/PS offerings overall. Don't forget Sony is not only in the console realm but has branches that reach about everything including hardware and software/content wise across multiple levels movies, tv, music, games, etc...
and I am having a controller for my pc. Playing GTA or Dark Souls with keyboard and mouse would be like playing Starcraft II with a controller.
Im Pc gamer and I'm glad of that Pc returns to the throne:) sorry Ps4/XboxO guys but I know that this is a new reality for you, and you are not satisfied with it :)dont worry you still got some exlusive:D
The only issue with pc, is that very few games take advantage of the hardware most of us are running these next gen games on pcs with fairly old set ups, however we had to wait for consoles to catch up and start pushing graphics.
noone really cares though but pc gamers,I am more interested in games not hardware, pc gamers:look at our hardware,look at it, just asking for attention, its too bad none of these pc exclusives take advantage of the pcs hardware you brag and brag about but all you show is ports in higher res like crysis or metro or a modded game from 5 to 6 years ago
You must care just a little if you're in this section. How can you not see that the very few games take advantage of pc hardware, games like watch dogs, the new assassins creed as an example can be run on older pc hardware.
"all you show is ports in higher res like crysis or metro or a modded game from 5 to 6 years ago" Crysis was originally a PC exclusive and the 360/PS3 version don't use the same engine. http://i.imgur.com/5Wdj6r1.... How can you blame people for bragging about a modded older game when it looks like this? http://i.imgur.com/KjZTGLq.... http://i.imgur.com/9cDCTVo.... PS4/Xone fans brag about their good looking games so why can't PC guys?
No, I mostly like the PC for the breadth of games it offers and the fact that it is backwards compatible. The better graphics it offers are just a very nice plus. And many games do in fact take advantage of the performance that PCs offer. This is a misconception even among some PC gamers. Running games with better graphics (textures, post fx quality, shadow quality, etc) along with much better and more demanding forms of anti-aliasing, higher resolutions and, in many cases, at double the framerate, requires a HUGE amount of extra rendering performance from the hardware. If every game was pushing high end PCs to the very max in terms of the core graphical elements there would be no performance left over and the game's fidelity and framerate would suffer. The gulf in power between consoles and PCs IS being utilized by running higher quality assets and effects, better shadow quality, additional graphical techniques not found in the console versions, more advanced anti-aliasing, higher display resolutions and framerates double or more that of the console versions.
Sorry to break it to ya, but uhh PS4 and XboxOne are running and looking the same as any high end PC! Not to mention, I rather have quality games over a bunch of shitty weak PC exclusives!!!! You need to just come to terms that PC has taken a back seat to consoles. It's just a fact, check the stats if you don't believe me. Some of you PC kids are just too predictable. Stick with popping zits and reading the latest issue of PC gaming nerd!
Sorry to break it to you, but you're blind in your one good f***ing eye...
"The Ultimate Showdown" Isn't anyone getting tired of these articles? In my experience the ones fighting the pissing match are self entitled spoiled teenagers suffering from a case of Post-purchase rationalization or the endowment effect.
Just for the reader's entertainment, PC wins the showdown for me. Virtually every next-gen game is out on PC with the exception of Playstation exclusives. You gotta love it though, as Titanfall and Ryse: Son of Rome are PC titles, and then there are the PC exclusives like StarCraft, League of Legends, Age of Empires, DOTA2, WoW, ARMA and many others. But then again, Sony makes some great PC games like Planetside 2, EverQuest, Free Realms, DC Universe Online and the soon to be released H1Z1.
The fact of the matter is you need both a PS4 and a PC to play most of the latest and greatest games. (Or to play the console version because the PC port is balls) I excluded Xbox One because it has nothing that interests me, your mileage may vary.
When people say a PC game is a bad port they very very rarely mean it is worse than the console version. The fact that a game could and should be better really doesn't mean it is worse than the console version. There is a huge margin between "as good as it should be" and "the same as the console version", and the bad ones generally still sit somewhere in that gap.
There is no showdown. PC wins. Why even try to deny it? I have my PS4 for the MGS series, the surprise releases, the ND games. I'll have maybe 10 games by the time I'm done. My Steam list is just...insane. I have far too many games.
Exactly, most of these console-only gamers just don't have a clue about what it's like to use Steam, and Origin is becoming pretty good too. I mean it's practically like owning a console, only with better prices, better graphics options, and the option to use native controller support in 90% of the games released these days. Not only that, I will continue to have access to all of my old games no matter how many console generations go by. On top of it all, my GTX 780 will last way longer than either of these two next gen consoles, and it will outlast them while pushing far better graphics capabilities.
You PC gamers just don't get it do you? How much did your rig cost? How long did it take you to set up? I'm seriously asking. I ask because I love how you all keep talking about graphical superiority, but you always forget to mention cost and ease of use.
He mostly talks about games but he tries to downplay what he said by saying we only care about gfx. Gfx is just icing on the cake to us pc gamers support the most games. And we don't abandon games just because something Shiney came out. Look at the support for games that would have been shunned or would of been over looked on consoles. I love how when a console fanboys have no rebuttal they just go off the deep in like. Major glitching out
Yep. My GTX 680 4GB STILL maxes out anything that been released for *snicker* "next-gen" consoles, and with better framerates too!
The only ultimate showdown we need is this: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
PC as my main platform. Eventually all the consoles for their exclusives, buying them slowly over the generation based on library. That's my way of things. I would never trade PC as my main platform.
"Even though the title reads as PC vs “Consoles” but most of the arguments will be supplemented by Sony’s PlayStaion and Microsoft’s Xbox. I apologize to the Wii users but Nintendo takes a back seat because, let’s be honest, I don’t feel it beats the PS or Xbox in anyway, other than casual gaming, and here we are more interested in the hardcore gaming." Lol, what a victim. Nintendo has some of the games that differentiate console gaming most from pc gaming. Just not considering it because the author doesn't like the Wii U is stupid.
Good article. Though generalised at times it hits the key points. I like the reassertion how... by looking at present day PC games... you can expect to see that quality on console in a few years. Are they using raytracing algorithms on PC games 2014?
100% PC I will always get it on PC if available. Ps3 served me well and i still use often, right now Ps4 is taking some of my time. Xbo down the road for my Halo fix i am so pumped for Halo5. My vita get seldom uses. haven't turned on my 360 since Forza horizon(awesome game). But this pissing contest is getting annoying. Pc is by far where its at. Just complement it ( like i do ) with some side of console :)
I prefer consoles because of ease of use, plus my PC is ancient, lookin forward to playing Stronghold Crusader 2 tho, even on 800x600 resolution if i have to lol
Why do people write articles like this? PC is in a league all by its self..... And console vs console is all so stupid .... Because it comes down to preference , on what games you want to play .... If you have PC, and all the console you be a very happy gamer... Why have we become such assholes about this .. Instead of sticking together as gamers . And just talk about what really matters ... The GAMES!!!!!
Two different beasts.
Console gamer: "wow! Look at the beautiful graphics in tlou" PC gamer: "look at the beautiful graphics " insert pc game here" it looks so good" Console gamer: "shut up nobody cares about graphics, it's all about gameplay"
Ha yeah That's very true. I've been playing TLOU remastered & although a fantastic game I'd love to play it on PC to ramp up the textures & add some much needed AA.
Pc gamer: my machine produces better graphics Console gamer: ya, but how much did it cost and how long did it take you to set it up? Pc gamer: ... The PC Elitists just can't figure it out can they? They'll talk about superior graphics, but always ALWAYS fail to mention how much time and money was invested into their rigs. They'll also always fail to mention the fact that the majority of pc gamers don't have high-end pcs. So I ask all of you PC gamers the same question I always ask. How much did your system cost, and how long did it take for you to set it up?
$1500-1600, somewhere in that range. Took me about maybe two or so hours to build and install the OS, drivers, and personal file transfers. I've probably spent less than $500 on games thanks to steam sales making back the cost over a year and a half later. The benefits of an upfront investment. http://www.mysteamgauge.com... Why does it matter how many PC gamers don't have high-end PCs? That doesn't affect anyone that do.
Well, considering you can build a PC that performs better than current gen consoles for less than $400... And if you really don't care about graphics, you can get one for less than that, maybe even just a few hundred. With PCs it's all about the freedom to spend as much as you want for the power you need
@major_Glitch: You sound like someone who is bitter about something. It's not always and only about graphics. PC is an open platform. Form it's hardware to it's software, it's my choice what gets in and what not. And that is something I greatly appreciate. Regarding your question: The latest one I made for my brother was around 1200 Euros with use top tier components. Assembly was around 2 hrs and installation to the point that everything is exactly as I want it to be takes around 4 hrs (of which btw 3 1/2 hrs is updating the OS). The truth is building a PC has become so easy and convenient, it really makes fun. The next one I am planning for late 2015/early 2016 (as soon as skylake i7 K-models are available on the market) with a budget of around 1600 Euros.
@major PC gamer: I'm always next gen Console gamer: I'll be next gen in about 8 years Seriously though, building pc's is a hobby for me I upgrade almost every year. Yes it's expensive, but if you can afford it what's the problem? Also like pussi said you don't have to go high end. @deusex my next build will be soon I hope. Mini itx Haswell-e and 880ti assuming they release it early 2015. With the inwin 901 case
PCs are more about freedom to do what you want. Consoles are made for the casual market so they are made to be as simple as possible. PCs are the way to go if you're able to work and pay a little more (or if you don't want to pay more you might want to build one or get some lower end one) but if you want to simply buy a box that plays games, you get a console. Nothing wrong with either option, they're just for different marker.
Quality over quantity.
The entire concept of a fixed spec device in competition with a platform that is fluid and ever evolving is beyond stupid.
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