The announcement that Star Ocean may be exclusive to the 360 has started a firestorm. But is there really a chance that Star Ocean will stay exclusive to Microsoft's system?
ahh a week of N4G: A) XXX is being XXX B) NO IT ISNT A) XXX CONFIRMED! B) NO IT ISNT A) YES IT IS! B) DEBUNKED, NEXT PLZ This crap needs to end. Rumor one day, confirmed the next only to be debunked a week later. I wish this site would minumize speculation and stick to facts. Fact: SE is releasing SO4 on 360 first. THATS IT. NOTHING more to report. Everyone needs to move on until SE announces otherwise. Let the 360 have a bit of glory for a bit... john Doe bloggers all over will share their opinion, but IT ISNT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In a nut shell. Not a chance!
Its a jealous rant, not news.
Besides the last game sucked lol.....and even if this one is good, its still no challenge to Final Fantasy XIII
they will miss out more than double sales!! ps3 version will sell more than 360 version thats for sure!!
I seriously don't understand why people don't just take facts as is and move on. Seeing PS fans b*tch about this game and Square in general is really pathetic. I mean. It's like PS fans don't want Square to throw a bone to x360 fans at all. Sh*t. The mother of all JRPG is still PS exclusive and not just one but two and yet PS fans are still b*tching about a game most don't even think off when they think about JRPG.
Some fanboys blog means nothing its not news. As for Star Ocean 4 selling more if it was on the ps3 ..........umm would this be the same way that GTA4 on the ps3 out sold 360 version 3-1 ?
I've got it on good authority from a SCEA employee friend, that it's a definite PS3 release. It's even been seen up and running on the PS3. Plain and simple.
anyone can make a blog rantting about anythign I could make one about how MGS4 still be ported the to 360 and it still wouldnt be news. Even if it cam striagh from my brother , uncle's ,room mates dog who work as a lever designer on the game
http://messages.yahoo.co.jp... its in japanese you need to translate it but it says that SO4 wont ever go to the ps3.
Eternal Sonata was exclusive, Bioshock as well, most likely Tales of Ves~. Considering these are japanese based companies that do want to push westward, they tend to cater to their homeland first. Logically, the 360 isn't a viable choice, but if it makes it seem as if they like the West alot with their games, they'll accpe the cash for timed exclusive and say it wont come out on the PS3 only to come out 6 months later. Ace Combat? [which I would love more screens of]
Capcom: DMC4 is PS3 exclusive! Bioware: Bioshock wont be on PS3 EVAR! EPIC: Gears of war ONLY ON 360! eternal sonata is 360 exclusive ! etc.. do u want more? its about money.. Star ocean will be timed exclusive and sell like other JRPG (LO, ES.. )on 360 and then it will be on PS3 in the right time not same time as BIG ps3 exclusives..
so you rather speculate then hear something from someone in charge? you make it seem like RPGs that arent the big 3 sell well. jrpgs in general sell average at best. also bioware didnt make Bioshock.
we aren't planning on releasing it for the PS3. At the moment there is no release date for the PS3 version but, we will be listening to our customers opinions and needs for future software development.
You also forgot the part where it says "but while we try to listen to our customers opinions and needs, sometimes we just can't please everyone, so do understand." ie. we know you're upset but please get over it Sony fanboys.
Answer is 0. Which JRPG games stayed exclusive on x360 after 2,5 years? ONLY published by M$. Star Ocean 4 is published by SQUARE.
@Cartesian3D wow you are stupid. GoW is still a 360 exclusive. ES was only ported in japan its still exclusive to the 360 outside japan. Oh and bioware didnt make bioshock either. LO is 1st party MS game and will never be on the ps3 ...... Same with BD and Cry On btw
Wrong my friend... GEARS is on the PC too, as is every other 360 game I ever wanted to play.
pc isnt a console either dumbass and its still owned by ms so your stupid fanboy ass is still giving them money.
Alright dumbass... He said "ONLY ON 360" not "Console exclusive"... learn to read Also, MS hasn't gotten a damn penny of my money for their "Games for Windows" crap. I'll never pay for a MS subsidised game again. Nor will I pay for Windows. And the PC isn't "owned by MS". Ever heard of Linux?
DUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. This game won't even break a million on the 360. No, It won't. It's coming to the PS3.
The fact is SO4 should be PS3 exclusive, it will probably be on the xbug 180 with [email protected] graphics and in 10 different dvds.
only if square enix looking for making huge losses this fiscal year!! japan will not buy this game, it wont sell more than 100-200 thousand in japan! and the rest of the world it will sell around 500 thousand!! so all in total 600-700 thousand!! well good luck square enix and hope for ur own sake that MS payed u very very well!!
lets see mmgs4 numbers and find out huh....I highly doubt it..niche as jrpgs are...they might not even break 500K if its multiplatform.
I'm a huge RPG fan and they need to start releasing more.
if the ps3 cost $4.20 that wud increase my chance of buying it by the 3rd% this is just my personal thinking in my pocket right now i have some money that i took from my local wishing well. Will save up till the day it cost $4.20 or wont buy 11111111 SO4 wont come PS3
Well, you are missing out on a great machine. Great games, cool features, HD Movie player... I enjoy my purchase and dont regret it one bit. MSG4 FTW!!!!
<What does that have to do with SO4?) <Go play with your wii)
you are back!? werent you banmned or somethiing for being a dumbass
he needs to save up for LIVE subscripstions-$infinte amount Batteries or Battery Pack-$19.99 at least Wireless Network Adaptor-$99.99 360 cooling fan-$19.99 MUST HAVE ;) Great games-$59.99 (9gb DVD =$59.99 50gb BLUray=$59.99) 120gb HD-$169.99 (less than 20gbHD fills up quick) then WiiFit -$89.99 (that should be fun) Batteries or Battery pack-$19.99 2gb SD memorycard -$19.99 (Wii has 1/2gb hd) Great Games -$49.99 Multiple controllers -$60 ($39.99 wiimote+ $19.99 nun-chuck) (plus a second wheel, racket, etc. its made for multiple people to play in the same living room = everyone needs a wheel)+more batteries! nice try and a nice 4:20 to you too
...that timed exclusives are pointless. PS3 gamers are ALREADY used to waiting for their games...even if it's a 1st party title...so waiting another 6 months or a year for an "exclusive" title to come to their console, isn't a big deal. They'd be better served spending their money on 1st party devs. I'm still pissed they missed out on Offset Software. Now that Intel owns them, the game will likely remain a CPU-selling PC exclusive, like Crysis. With the millions they've blown on timed exclusives, the GTA4 content, etc....they could have bought Remedy AND Offset Software. :o
I do agree M$ should be spending a lot more money picking up new developers, but timed exclusives do make a difference. The majority of people buying a game will buy it during it's first release. By the time it reaches its second there will already be new games that look and play better, and that version will more than likely fall to the wayside. From a gamer point of view it doesn't make a huge issue because if you want it you will buy it for the platform you have. From a business point of view, they make a lot of casual gamer and spur of the moment sales off the first release.
Down below, you say that people should post garbage in the open zone when you put garbage like "LOL PS3 USERS ARE USED TO WAITING FOR 1ST PARTY LOL". I am a PS3 and a 360 owner, and while I've been waiting for some games on my PS3, I've also been waiting for Alan Wake and Splinter Cell Conviction. I sure as hell waited a LOT for Duke Nukem, Too Human and Lost Odyssey. You know what else I had to wait for? Get a working Console and Hard Drive. I'm on my fourth 360; that's the amount of times Microsoft took to get it right since it seems to finally be working (though I'm afraid that next year when my warranty ends, I'll be console less). The fact that you *hope* Microsoft buys other already existing studios instead of building and recruiting them from scratch just like they buy exclusives that people without a 360 want instead of producing new IP themselves just proves how much of a fanboy you are. I completely support Microsoft building MistWalker and their new canadian studios. I completely abhorred them buying Rare and Lionhead. They should make more games Like Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon instead of buying 3rd party titles like Star Ocean and GTAIV exclusive content. BTW, last time I bother with you. <Ignore>
day 1 for me only possible on the 360.
but if or if it does not, just buy the console to play the damn game.
Im not going to wait for Star Ocean 4.... I'm still waiting for eternal Sonata... Sooner or later, i'm going to take the plunge and buy a 360
don't fall into that 17% deep end of the pool! LOL j/k i wanted to "jump in" too but looking at my wii's many layers of dust having a second console let alone a third for a few exclusives is looking expensive and way too time consuming. needless to say i'm satisfied with my first choice.
my friends PS3 is collecting dust and he always uses his 360, as do I
"I THINK" ms pay for timed exclusive for SO4 cause they having a hard time gaining sales in japan so by doing that people there will buy there console since SO4 will go on MS console first. but who knows. hopefully this will change. anyway im going to buy the game whichever console it will be realese.
Whichever way, i'm just glad that MS hasn't given up on Japan. By the way I live in Japan.
Square in financial woes, bigger user base in JPN = snowball chance in ...
Japan is where this game will get the majority of sales. This game is not even coming to 2009, so it could be just all a "show" right now.
You'd be surprised how well JRPGs sell in the west. The market for them here is a lot larger than anyone gives them credit for.
But we are talking about Star Ocean (mostly japan sales) not Final Fantasy where everyone and "my momma" will buy it. :) Star Ocean Breakdown: Star Ocean: ....1996 Super Famicom (japan) Star Ocean: The Second Story...1998 PlayStation 1 (japan) 1999 America Star Ocean: Blue Sphere... 2001 Game Boy Color (japan) No america Star Ocean: Till End of Time...2003 Playstation 2 (japan) 2004 NA/EU Star Ocean: First Departure....2007 PSP (reamake of original SO) Star Ocean : Second Evolution....4/3/2008 PSP (remake of second story) Star Ocean: Last Hope..... 2009 (360) PS3? (I sure think so^^) japan will be pissed at Square..lol...Japan gets most of the releases exclusive to the region on Sony and Nintendo platforms... @bladestar below, if you think that PS3 will take years to catch 360, you are sniffing something. America is the only region left to "catch". 360 sells next to NOTHING in Japan. MGS4 out tommorow buddy...have fun :)
Like I said, MS made a mistake with this one. This game will come to the PS3 sooner or later. But for now, FFXIII/Versus news all the way for me.
only possible on the 360? : /
Who cares? Star Ocean sucks anyways.
Uhhh, did anyone read the article??? He brought up a VERY good point that from a business standpoint is UNDENIABLE. He states: "Though, to think that Square would dangle this in front of their Japanese fans is ridiculous. By all means it would be a shot in the foot, as its hardcore fans would abandon the series altogether." That is the best point I have heard made about this, and it's been obvious to me since they announced this. This is about Star Ocean, not the other games. I just can't see SE boning their fanbase when the average american (the market for 360) isn't going to get Star Ocean.
Did you know that the last metal gear sold only less than 840K copies in Japan? it sold most of it's copies in the US... mmmm.. so, if you logic is correct it was very stupid on Konami part to ignore the fact that they should release the game on a console that has the largest fanbase in the US... Japan is a dying hardware gamer region... they know that... they also express the need of expanding their demographics to other regions outside than Japan... well... how is ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 is king in the US is doing that? They can't rely on Japan only... I think they are already risking enough with releasing Final Fantasy XIII only on the PS3... should they put all their eggs on the PS3 and ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 more than double the PS3 installbase in america and other regions like UK? at least the PS3 is getting SE biggest title.. final fantasy... and you want more? It would be very interesting if for some strange reason SO4 sells well on the xbox 360 on top of the money microsoft is paying them... cross your fingers and hope that these titles do not do well on the xbox 360 because if the xbox 360 is proven a profitable platform for JRPG makers to sell their games outside of Japan... you will see more games on the xbox 360... not to mention that games like Lost Odyssey sold very well without japan's help. you should be happy... the money microsoft is paying is helping SE work on the already expensive to make Final Fantasy aside from the fact that it may not sell I much as they expected since the wii is taking over japan.. and the PS3 success is not nearly as much as the PS2 was.
good points bladestar however your facts are wrong. 360 doesn't beat ps3 anymore in the UK. 360 is only beating PS3 1 to 1.4 basicilly now in the US. PS3 is making up a lot of ground and is the roll is only going to get bigger with MGS4 tomorrow. You need to get schooled on game sales in Japan. Super smash bros, monster hunter, dragon quest, crisis core all have sold millions in its first weeks of release.
I didn't say beat.. I say installbase ... you see the PS3 may sell 2-3K more than the xbox 360... but what about the already larger installbase? Do you know how many years it would take to catchup to the xbox 360 at the rate is selling? That's what I am talking about... installbase... that's important and many people seem to forget... the PS3 does not need to start selling more than the PS3.. but it needs to catchup...
"Did you know that the last metal gear sold only less than 840K copies in Japan? it sold most of it's copies in the US... mmmm.. so, if you logic is correct it was very stupid on Konami part to ignore the fact that they should release the game on a console that has the largest fanbase in the US... Japan is a dying hardware gamer region... they know that... they also express the need of expanding their demographics to other regions outside than Japan... well... how is ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 is king in the US is doing that? They can't rely on Japan only... I think they are already risking enough with releasing Final Fantasy XIII only on the PS3... should they put all their eggs on the PS3 and ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 more than double the PS3 installbase in america and other regions like UK?" blah blah blah, open zone is that way ---------> BTW, 360 is being outsold by PS3 everywhere, it's only a matter of time before 360 is 3rd place. Check your facts next time, pal.
I was talking install base. PS3 is catching up. I don't see where you're going. lol. In fact considering that the 360 has a bigger base and the games blue dragon, ninja gaiden 2, katamari, lost odyssey, eternal sonata sold bad as they did is even more proof that japanese games usually under sell on the 360.
I know you can see why you have so many ignores. You not only have your logic and facts completely backwards, but you have your lips firmly planted on Bill Gates' ass so much they will have to be surgically removed. By YOUR failed logic, we should have every single exclusive game be for the 360 only while the PS3 never gets any kind of savior whatsoever, regardless of anyone's wishes or what hardware specs are on said systems. By that alone, that is completely backwards, and screams of you being scared of just what MGS4 is going to do for the PS3. You don't understand that the PS3 IS a part of the latest console war, and it IS allowed to have games, too, and for those games to be both exclusive AND awesome. And, umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MGS4 supposed to be the game that gets that PS3 install base to the status quo and then some? From what I've seen (anyone visited Amazon.com within the past weekend), something tells me MS is going to be for one HUGE awakening. And, hate to break it to you, but...Hideo Kojima...well, he's...kinda Japanese, and lives in Japan? I figure I might break it to you since you think that developers can't think of their home country, too, and seem to know more about that country than any of us might. But back to you, Bladestar, you get nearly ALL your facts wrong, you talk as if you know everything about everything and think that people will just believe you because it comes from your mouth, and you fail to see that there are other consoles on the market besides the 360, and developers ARE allowed to develop for them and they ARE allowed to help those that need the help. Maybe it would be best for you to, on some of these issues, to just keep your mouth shut.
Strange... you guys are saying I have my facts wrong... but I failed to see where you provide links to sources that prove that what I said was wrong...a you saying that Metal Gear snake eater sold more than 840K in japan? are you saying that the xbox 360 does not have a larger installbase in the US and the UK? are you saying that Metal Gear is not bigger in the UK and the US than in Japan? can you do the math? by how much is the PS3 beating the xbox 360 montly in the UK and how long it would take it to catchup to the xbox 360 at the rate is going? You sony leg humpers obviously do not like when people tell you facts that do not go with reality... but you are always welcome to prove me wrong... instead of trying to personally attack me and proving I am right... :)
"Strange... you guys are saying I have my facts wrong... but I failed to see where you provide links to sources that prove that what I said was wrong" And...you DO? "are you saying that the xbox 360 does not have a larger installbase in the US and the UK?" No one said it didn't. You got the reason behind the disagrees all wrong. They're disagreeing to that because, by install base logic alone that YOU'RE trying to shove down throats here, MGS4 should be exclusive to the Wii right now. "you saying that Metal Gear snake eater sold more than 840K in japan?" You're the one making the claim it didn't. "are you saying that Metal Gear is not bigger in the UK and the US than in Japan?" No one said that. But it's not that out of the mainstream there, either. "can you do the math?" I thought you were teaching us. You know? Our math opposed to THE math? "by how much is the PS3 beating the xbox 360 montly in the UK and how long it would take it to catchup to the xbox 360 at the rate is going?" And what we're saying is that the PS3 install base will be alot bigger from MGS4. You'd see that if you bothered to actually READ what was said. "You sony leg humpers obviously do not like when people tell you facts that do not go with reality" Wait...so you are providing false facts, that are not reality? You just realize this NOW? "but you are always welcome to prove me wrong" Umm..we need no help in doing that. You do that very well yourself. "... instead of trying to personally attack me and proving I am right... :)" Because you certainly don't deserve it, right? Basically, we "personally attack you" because you ALWAYS get it backwards...basically put...well.. ...you're a craphead!
2009 we got FF XIII & FF V XIII you can keep it xbots it's still coming to the ps3 though ..... (Playing MGS4)
The fact is that if it were 100% exclusive, both SE and MS (especially MS) would be touting it as such. The language that SE uses is purposely vague, kind of like when Epic was asked about UT 3 for the 360. So until either MS or SE comes out and says it is 100% exclusive, it is only a TIMED exclusive. It is as simple as that.
It's vague only because they still want to hold the option to port it to PS3 in case it bombs. Not because they already have plans to.
Who said it was a full exclusive? The producers themselves said a PS3 version is in discussion, so there are high chances that it will be released on Sony's Console. HOWEVER, what is 100% sure is that the game will be released on Xbox 360 FIRST, and Worldwide. What came as a blow is that rumors pointed out that it'd be the total opposite, but it just didn't happen. Right now Microsoft is enjoying an excellent relationship with the biggest 3rd party publishers, and Square Enix has just joined the boat. Don't be surprised if FF XIII is also a timed exclusive for the PS3.
i don't know about FFXIII being a timed exclusive. Look at how SE seems to be supporting the consoles, both home and portable. Each one is getting at least one exclusive game, with the exception of the handhelds getting at least 2. Infinite Undiscovery being the one for the 360 and, presumably, FFXIII being the PS3's. Now, I wouldn't discount FF versus XIII being multiplat, but a timed exclusive for the PS3. There does seem to be a logic to what SE is doing. Even if it isn't immediately apparent.
Um...no. Go check yo'self. FFXIII and Versus are running on a new engine called the 'white engine' if I am not mistaken. While it *might* be possible to port the game over to the 360, it's highly doubtful since that engine was probably designed for the PS3 from the start. And I wouldn't start assuming that MS has created a nice relationship with Square yet because if those games sell like crap on the 360...then I would say right now that MS made the biggest mistake in this console war. FFXIII and Versus are still PS3 exclusive. Keep dreaming. edit: And yet again another phantom disagree. Woe is me.
Dream On BOT. You aren't touching Final Fantasy 13, except on your PS3 you will have in a year or two when it arrives : Does it make you want to cry? Guess what. I'll be playing Metal Gear Solid 4:GOP tonight and watching new footage for Resistance 2 tommorrow night...HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH Try again, BOT. Analysts warn of "struggle" for Xbox brand = HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHHA http://www.ripten.com/2007/... Nomura says that with the help of the disc space on Blu-Ray and the Hard drive in each PS3, The evolution of Final Fantasy XII to XIII will be as big as the evolution of Final Fantasy VI to VII. He also says that Final Fantasy XIII will probably be the first game to use the full specifications of the Playstation 3. Another interesting thing he mentioned was that the airship present in Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be able to take part in airborne assaults over the world map. Hopefully we'll see that in action soon. Finally, Dengeki also asked him once again whether the games will be Playstation 3 exclusives which he replied to with "Of course". Move along, BOTS.
Actually, SE reworked their "white engine" a while back to the "crystal tools," a multiplatform engine. That is where the speculation that FF XIII was coming to the 360 originated from.
Oh, I see rhood022. You have a point there. But let me add that I am still doubtful FFXIII and Versus are coming to the 360. These games were advertised all over Japan as PS3 exclusives, according to eagle there.
Square already had a releationship with MS. Square put games on xbox 1 (Final Fantasy 11) and others, they all flopped. Square puts games on 360, they pretty much will not be strong sales. Playstation 3 is where they will make a profit from this game or if you will, the interest for buying gamers will be greater. And that goes for all the other games from Square. Do you think Japan is going to get a whole big 360 just to play SO4 in 2009, when FFXIII and VERSUS and 100 other Japan Centric RPG's will be released over there? Maybe 4,000 people. Final Fantasy XIII already has PS3 commercials in Japan since November 2006. Sony even owns shares of Square-Enix! You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than to ever see FFXIII on a 360. This is just more of a stepping stone for the future. A little push in the right direction. It will take a decade to break Japan. Sony and Nintendo are just too strong.
Calm down you PS3 fanboys this news story if just wishful thinking and just an envyous rant. I'm sure other PS3 fanboys will be posting more of these angry theory posts. The ingame graphics are surely taking advantage of the 360's hardware you wouldn't wan't a port anyways wouldn't be the same game atleast visually.
@ Juuken It's cool bro. I was just theorizing that, based on how it seems SE is doing business with Nintendo, MS, and Sony, it wouldn't be surprised at more of their tertiary titles, i.e. offshoot or new franchise titles, to go multiplat.
I think we'll be seeing me riding to work on a Chocobo before we see FF XIII on a 360.