Star Ocean 4 to stay exclusive to 360? Highly doubtful

The announcement that Star Ocean may be exclusive to the 360 has started a firestorm. But is there really a chance that Star Ocean will stay exclusive to Microsoft's system?

[Drekken]

ahh a week of N4G:

A) XXX is being XXX
B) NO IT ISNT
A) XXX CONFIRMED!
B) NO IT ISNT
A) YES IT IS!
B) DEBUNKED, NEXT PLZ

This crap needs to end. Rumor one day, confirmed the next only to be debunked a week later. I wish this site would minumize speculation and stick to facts.

Fact: SE is releasing SO4 on 360 first. THATS IT. NOTHING more to report. Everyone needs to move on until SE announces otherwise.
Let the 360 have a bit of glory for a bit... john Doe bloggers all over will share their opinion, but IT ISNT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Genesis5]

In a nut shell. Not a chance!

[tplarkin7]

Its a jealous rant, not news.

[MADGameR]

Besides the last game sucked lol.....and even if this one is good, its still no challenge to Final Fantasy XIII

[theKiller]

they will miss out more than double sales!!
ps3 version will sell more than 360 version thats for sure!!

[cmrbe]

I seriously don't understand why people don't just take facts as is and move on. Seeing PS fans b*tch about this game and Square in general is really pathetic. I mean. It's like PS fans don't want Square to throw a bone to x360 fans at all. Sh*t. The mother of all JRPG is still PS exclusive and not just one but two and yet PS fans are still b*tching about a game most don't even think off when they think about JRPG.

[Fallen_Angel]

Some fanboys blog means nothing its not news. As for Star Ocean 4 selling more if it was on the ps3 ..........umm would this be the same way that GTA4 on the ps3 out sold 360 version 3-1 ?

[Koroshiya_Keefu]

I've got it on good authority from a SCEA employee friend, that it's a definite PS3 release. It's even been seen up and running on the PS3. Plain and simple.

[Fallen_Angel]

anyone can make a blog rantting about anythign I could make one about how MGS4 still be ported the to 360 and it still wouldnt be news. Even if it cam striagh from my brother , uncle's ,room mates dog who work as a lever designer on the game

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

http://messages.yahoo.co.jp...

its in japanese you need to translate it but it says that SO4 wont ever go to the ps3.

[Wildarmsjecht]

Eternal Sonata was exclusive, Bioshock as well, most likely Tales of Ves~. Considering these are japanese based companies that do want to push westward, they tend to cater to their homeland first. Logically, the 360 isn't a viable choice, but if it makes it seem as if they like the West alot with their games, they'll accpe the cash for timed exclusive and say it wont come out on the PS3 only to come out 6 months later. Ace Combat? [which I would love more screens of]

[Cartesian3D]

Capcom: DMC4 is PS3 exclusive!
Bioware: Bioshock wont be on PS3 EVAR!
EPIC: Gears of war ONLY ON 360!
eternal sonata is 360 exclusive !
etc..
do u want more? its about money.. Star ocean will be timed exclusive and sell like other JRPG (LO, ES.. )on 360 and then it will be on PS3 in the right time not same time as BIG ps3 exclusives..

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

so you rather speculate then hear something from someone in charge?

you make it seem like RPGs that arent the big 3 sell well. jrpgs in general sell average at best.

also bioware didnt make Bioshock.

[killedinaction9]

we aren't planning on releasing it for the PS3.

At the moment there is no release date for the PS3 version but, we will be listening to our customers opinions and needs for future software development.

[whoknew]

You also forgot the part where it says "but while we try to listen to our customers opinions and needs, sometimes we just can't please everyone, so do understand." ie. we know you're upset but please get over it Sony fanboys.

[CrazzyMan]

Answer is 0.

Which JRPG games stayed exclusive on x360 after 2,5 years? ONLY published by M$.

Star Ocean 4 is published by SQUARE.

[Fallen_Angel]

@Cartesian3D wow you are stupid. GoW is still a 360 exclusive. ES was only ported in japan its still exclusive to the 360 outside japan. Oh and bioware didnt make bioshock either. LO is 1st party MS game and will never be on the ps3 ...... Same with BD and Cry On btw

[m9105826]

Wrong my friend... GEARS is on the PC too, as is every other 360 game I ever wanted to play.

[Fallen_Angel]

pc isnt a console either dumbass and its still owned by ms so your stupid fanboy ass is still giving them money.

[m9105826]

Alright dumbass...

He said "ONLY ON 360" not "Console exclusive"... learn to read

Also, MS hasn't gotten a damn penny of my money for their "Games for Windows" crap. I'll never pay for a MS subsidised game again.

Nor will I pay for Windows.

And the PC isn't "owned by MS". Ever heard of Linux?

[Maverick_]

DUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. This game won't even break a million on the 360. No, It won't.

It's coming to the PS3.

[Shaka2K6]

The fact is SO4 should be PS3 exclusive, it will probably be on the xbug 180 with 585p@20fps graphics and in 10 different dvds.

[theKiller]

only if square enix looking for making huge losses this fiscal year!!
japan will not buy this game, it wont sell more than 100-200 thousand in japan! and the rest of the world it will sell around 500 thousand!!
so all in total 600-700 thousand!! well good luck square enix and hope for ur own sake that MS payed u very very well!!

[Snukadaman]

lets see mmgs4 numbers and find out huh....I highly doubt it..niche as jrpgs are...they might not even break 500K if its multiplatform.

[crazy25000]

=(

[crazy25000]

I'm a huge RPG fan and they need to start releasing more.

[fork_wii60fanboy]

if the ps3 cost $4.20 that wud increase my chance of buying it by the 3rd% this is just my personal thinking

in my pocket right now i have some money that i took from my local wishing well. Will save up till the day it cost $4.20 or wont buy 11111111

SO4 wont come PS3

[Drekken]

Well, you are missing out on a great machine. Great games, cool features, HD Movie player... I enjoy my purchase and dont regret it one bit.

MSG4 FTW!!!!

[Wise Rant Monkey]

<What does that have to do with SO4?)
<Go play with your wii)

[Kami]

you are back!?
werent you banmned or somethiing for being a dumbass

[SmokingMonkey]

he needs to save up for
LIVE subscripstions-$infinte amount
Batteries or Battery Pack-$19.99 at least
Wireless Network Adaptor-$99.99
360 cooling fan-$19.99 MUST HAVE ;)
Great games-$59.99 (9gb DVD =$59.99 50gb BLUray=$59.99)
120gb HD-$169.99 (less than 20gbHD fills up quick)
then
WiiFit -$89.99 (that should be fun)
Batteries or Battery pack-$19.99
2gb SD memorycard -$19.99 (Wii has 1/2gb hd)
Great Games -$49.99
Multiple controllers -$60 ($39.99 wiimote+ $19.99 nun-chuck)
(plus a second wheel, racket, etc. its made for multiple people to play in the same living room = everyone needs a wheel)+more batteries!
nice try and a nice 4:20 to you too

[CNIVEK]

...that timed exclusives are pointless. PS3 gamers are ALREADY used to waiting for their games...even if it's a 1st party title...so waiting another 6 months or a year for an "exclusive" title to come to their console, isn't a big deal.

They'd be better served spending their money on 1st party devs. I'm still pissed they missed out on Offset Software. Now that Intel owns them, the game will likely remain a CPU-selling PC exclusive, like Crysis. With the millions they've blown on timed exclusives, the GTA4 content, etc....they could have bought Remedy AND Offset Software. :o

[The Lazy One]

I do agree M$ should be spending a lot more money picking up new developers, but timed exclusives do make a difference.

The majority of people buying a game will buy it during it's first release. By the time it reaches its second there will already be new games that look and play better, and that version will more than likely fall to the wayside.

From a gamer point of view it doesn't make a huge issue because if you want it you will buy it for the platform you have. From a business point of view, they make a lot of casual gamer and spur of the moment sales off the first release.

[baum]

Down below, you say that people should post garbage in the open zone when you put garbage like "LOL PS3 USERS ARE USED TO WAITING FOR 1ST PARTY LOL". I am a PS3 and a 360 owner, and while I've been waiting for some games on my PS3, I've also been waiting for Alan Wake and Splinter Cell Conviction. I sure as hell waited a LOT for Duke Nukem, Too Human and Lost Odyssey. You know what else I had to wait for? Get a working Console and Hard Drive. I'm on my fourth 360; that's the amount of times Microsoft took to get it right since it seems to finally be working (though I'm afraid that next year when my warranty ends, I'll be console less).

The fact that you *hope* Microsoft buys other already existing studios instead of building and recruiting them from scratch just like they buy exclusives that people without a 360 want instead of producing new IP themselves just proves how much of a fanboy you are. I completely support Microsoft building MistWalker and their new canadian studios. I completely abhorred them buying Rare and Lionhead. They should make more games Like Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon instead of buying 3rd party titles like Star Ocean and GTAIV exclusive content.

BTW, last time I bother with you. <Ignore>

[poos3]

day 1 for me only possible on the 360.

[kewlkat007]

but if or if it does not, just buy the console to play the damn game.

[ErcsYou]

Im not going to wait for Star Ocean 4.... I'm still waiting for eternal Sonata... Sooner or later, i'm going to take the plunge and buy a 360

[SmokingMonkey]

don't fall into that 17% deep end of the pool! LOL j/k
i wanted to "jump in" too but looking at my wii's many layers of dust having a second console let alone a third for a few exclusives is looking expensive and way too time consuming.
needless to say i'm satisfied with my first choice.

[caffman]

my friends PS3 is collecting dust and he always uses his 360, as do I

[hunter21]

"I THINK" ms pay for timed exclusive for SO4 cause they having a hard time gaining sales in japan so by doing that people there will buy there console since SO4 will go on MS console first. but who knows. hopefully this will change. anyway im going to buy the game whichever console it will be realese.

[killedinaction9]

Whichever way, i'm just glad that MS hasn't given up on Japan.

By the way I live in Japan.

[meepmoopmeep]

Square in financial woes, bigger user base in JPN
= snowball chance in ...

[eagle21]

Japan is where this game will get the majority of sales. This game is not even coming to 2009, so it could be just all a "show" right now.

[The Lazy One]

You'd be surprised how well JRPGs sell in the west. The market for them here is a lot larger than anyone gives them credit for.

[eagle21]

But we are talking about Star Ocean (mostly japan sales) not Final Fantasy where everyone and "my momma" will buy it. :)

Star Ocean Breakdown:

Star Ocean: ....1996 Super Famicom (japan)
Star Ocean: The Second Story...1998 PlayStation 1 (japan) 1999 America
Star Ocean: Blue Sphere... 2001 Game Boy Color (japan) No america
Star Ocean: Till End of Time...2003 Playstation 2 (japan) 2004 NA/EU
Star Ocean: First Departure....2007 PSP (reamake of original SO)
Star Ocean : Second Evolution....4/3/2008 PSP (remake of second story)

Star Ocean: Last Hope..... 2009 (360) PS3? (I sure think so^^)

japan will be pissed at Square..lol...Japan gets most of the releases exclusive to the region on Sony and Nintendo platforms...

@bladestar below, if you think that PS3 will take years to catch 360, you are sniffing something. America is the only region left to "catch". 360 sells next to NOTHING in Japan. MGS4 out tommorow buddy...have fun :)

[juuken]

Like I said, MS made a mistake with this one. This game will come to the PS3 sooner or later. But for now, FFXIII/Versus news all the way for me.

[PoSTedUP]

only possible on the 360? : /

[BigKev45]

Who cares? Star Ocean sucks anyways.

[Pornlord]

Uhhh, did anyone read the article??? He brought up a VERY good point that from a business standpoint is UNDENIABLE.
He states: "Though, to think that Square would dangle this in front of their Japanese fans is ridiculous. By all means it would be a shot in the foot, as its hardcore fans would abandon the series altogether."

That is the best point I have heard made about this, and it's been obvious to me since they announced this. This is about Star Ocean, not the other games. I just can't see SE boning their fanbase when the average american (the market for 360) isn't going to get Star Ocean.

[Bladestar]

Did you know that the last metal gear sold only less than 840K copies in Japan? it sold most of it's copies in the US... mmmm.. so, if you logic is correct it was very stupid on Konami part to ignore the fact that they should release the game on a console that has the largest fanbase in the US... Japan is a dying hardware gamer region... they know that... they also express the need of expanding their demographics to other regions outside than Japan... well... how is ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 is king in the US is doing that? They can't rely on Japan only... I think they are already risking enough with releasing Final Fantasy XIII only on the PS3... should they put all their eggs on the PS3 and ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 more than double the PS3 installbase in america and other regions like UK?

at least the PS3 is getting SE biggest title.. final fantasy... and you want more? It would be very interesting if for some strange reason SO4 sells well on the xbox 360 on top of the money microsoft is paying them... cross your fingers and hope that these titles do not do well on the xbox 360 because if the xbox 360 is proven a profitable platform for JRPG makers to sell their games outside of Japan... you will see more games on the xbox 360... not to mention that games like Lost Odyssey sold very well without japan's help.

you should be happy... the money microsoft is paying is helping SE work on the already expensive to make Final Fantasy aside from the fact that it may not sell I much as they expected since the wii is taking over japan.. and the PS3 success is not nearly as much as the PS2 was.

[lonestarmt]

good points bladestar however your facts are wrong. 360 doesn't beat ps3 anymore in the UK. 360 is only beating PS3 1 to 1.4 basicilly now in the US. PS3 is making up a lot of ground and is the roll is only going to get bigger with MGS4 tomorrow. You need to get schooled on game sales in Japan. Super smash bros, monster hunter, dragon quest, crisis core all have sold millions in its first weeks of release.

[Bladestar]

I didn't say beat.. I say installbase ... you see the PS3 may sell 2-3K more than the xbox 360... but what about the already larger installbase? Do you know how many years it would take to catchup to the xbox 360 at the rate is selling? That's what I am talking about... installbase... that's important and many people seem to forget... the PS3 does not need to start selling more than the PS3.. but it needs to catchup...

[baum]

"Did you know that the last metal gear sold only less than 840K copies in Japan? it sold most of it's copies in the US... mmmm.. so, if you logic is correct it was very stupid on Konami part to ignore the fact that they should release the game on a console that has the largest fanbase in the US... Japan is a dying hardware gamer region... they know that... they also express the need of expanding their demographics to other regions outside than Japan... well... how is ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 is king in the US is doing that? They can't rely on Japan only... I think they are already risking enough with releasing Final Fantasy XIII only on the PS3... should they put all their eggs on the PS3 and ignoring the fact that the xbox 360 more than double the PS3 installbase in america and other regions like UK?"

blah blah blah, open zone is that way --------->

BTW, 360 is being outsold by PS3 everywhere, it's only a matter of time before 360 is 3rd place. Check your facts next time, pal.

[lonestarmt]

I was talking install base. PS3 is catching up. I don't see where you're going. lol. In fact considering that the 360 has a bigger base and the games blue dragon, ninja gaiden 2, katamari, lost odyssey, eternal sonata sold bad as they did is even more proof that japanese games usually under sell on the 360.

[JD_Shadow]

I know you can see why you have so many ignores. You not only have your logic and facts completely backwards, but you have your lips firmly planted on Bill Gates' ass so much they will have to be surgically removed.

By YOUR failed logic, we should have every single exclusive game be for the 360 only while the PS3 never gets any kind of savior whatsoever, regardless of anyone's wishes or what hardware specs are on said systems. By that alone, that is completely backwards, and screams of you being scared of just what MGS4 is going to do for the PS3.

You don't understand that the PS3 IS a part of the latest console war, and it IS allowed to have games, too, and for those games to be both exclusive AND awesome.

And, umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MGS4 supposed to be the game that gets that PS3 install base to the status quo and then some? From what I've seen (anyone visited Amazon.com within the past weekend), something tells me MS is going to be for one HUGE awakening. And, hate to break it to you, but...Hideo Kojima...well, he's...kinda Japanese, and lives in Japan? I figure I might break it to you since you think that developers can't think of their home country, too, and seem to know more about that country than any of us might.

But back to you, Bladestar, you get nearly ALL your facts wrong, you talk as if you know everything about everything and think that people will just believe you because it comes from your mouth, and you fail to see that there are other consoles on the market besides the 360, and developers ARE allowed to develop for them and they ARE allowed to help those that need the help. Maybe it would be best for you to, on some of these issues, to just keep your mouth shut.

[Bladestar]

Strange... you guys are saying I have my facts wrong... but I failed to see where you provide links to sources that prove that what I said was wrong...a you saying that Metal Gear snake eater sold more than 840K in japan? are you saying that the xbox 360 does not have a larger installbase in the US and the UK? are you saying that Metal Gear is not bigger in the UK and the US than in Japan? can you do the math? by how much is the PS3 beating the xbox 360 montly in the UK and how long it would take it to catchup to the xbox 360 at the rate is going? You sony leg humpers obviously do not like when people tell you facts that do not go with reality... but you are always welcome to prove me wrong... instead of trying to personally attack me and proving I am right... :)

[JD_Shadow]

"Strange... you guys are saying I have my facts wrong... but I failed to see where you provide links to sources that prove that what I said was wrong"

And...you DO?

"are you saying that the xbox 360 does not have a larger installbase in the US and the UK?"

No one said it didn't. You got the reason behind the disagrees all wrong. They're disagreeing to that because, by install base logic alone that YOU'RE trying to shove down throats here, MGS4 should be exclusive to the Wii right now.

"you saying that Metal Gear snake eater sold more than 840K in japan?"

You're the one making the claim it didn't.

"are you saying that Metal Gear is not bigger in the UK and the US than in Japan?"

No one said that. But it's not that out of the mainstream there, either.

"can you do the math?"

I thought you were teaching us. You know? Our math opposed to THE math?

"by how much is the PS3 beating the xbox 360 montly in the UK and how long it would take it to catchup to the xbox 360 at the rate is going?"

And what we're saying is that the PS3 install base will be alot bigger from MGS4. You'd see that if you bothered to actually READ what was said.

"You sony leg humpers obviously do not like when people tell you facts that do not go with reality"

Wait...so you are providing false facts, that are not reality? You just realize this NOW?

"but you are always welcome to prove me wrong"

Umm..we need no help in doing that. You do that very well yourself.

"... instead of trying to personally attack me and proving I am right... :)"

Because you certainly don't deserve it, right? Basically, we "personally attack you" because you ALWAYS get it backwards...basically put...well..

...you're a craphead!

[OmarJA]

2009

we got FF XIII & FF V XIII you can keep it xbots
it's still coming to the ps3 though .....

(Playing MGS4)

[rhood022]

The fact is that if it were 100% exclusive, both SE and MS (especially MS) would be touting it as such.

The language that SE uses is purposely vague, kind of like when Epic was asked about UT 3 for the 360.

So until either MS or SE comes out and says it is 100% exclusive, it is only a TIMED exclusive. It is as simple as that.

[whoknew]

It's vague only because they still want to hold the option to port it to PS3 in case it bombs. Not because they already have plans to.

[Aquanox]

Who said it was a full exclusive? The producers themselves said a PS3 version is in discussion, so there are high chances that it will be released on Sony's Console.

HOWEVER, what is 100% sure is that the game will be released on Xbox 360 FIRST, and Worldwide. What came as a blow is that rumors pointed out that it'd be the total opposite, but it just didn't happen.

Right now Microsoft is enjoying an excellent relationship with the biggest 3rd party publishers, and Square Enix has just joined the boat. Don't be surprised if FF XIII is also a timed exclusive for the PS3.

[rhood022]

i don't know about FFXIII being a timed exclusive. Look at how SE seems to be supporting the consoles, both home and portable.

Each one is getting at least one exclusive game, with the exception of the handhelds getting at least 2. Infinite Undiscovery being the one for the 360 and, presumably, FFXIII being the PS3's.

Now, I wouldn't discount FF versus XIII being multiplat, but a timed exclusive for the PS3. There does seem to be a logic to what SE is doing. Even if it isn't immediately apparent.

[juuken]

Um...no. Go check yo'self. FFXIII and Versus are running on a new engine called the 'white engine' if I am not mistaken. While it *might* be possible to port the game over to the 360, it's highly doubtful since that engine was probably designed for the PS3 from the start. And I wouldn't start assuming that MS has created a nice relationship with Square yet because if those games sell like crap on the 360...then I would say right now that MS made the biggest mistake in this console war.

FFXIII and Versus are still PS3 exclusive.
Keep dreaming.

edit: And yet again another phantom disagree. Woe is me.

[Maverick_]

Dream On BOT. You aren't touching Final Fantasy 13, except on your PS3 you will have in a year or two when it arrives :

Does it make you want to cry?

Guess what. I'll be playing Metal Gear Solid 4:GOP tonight and watching new footage for Resistance 2 tommorrow night...HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Try again, BOT. Analysts warn of "struggle" for Xbox brand = HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

http://www.ripten.com/2007/...

Nomura says that with the help of the disc space on Blu-Ray and the Hard drive in each PS3, The evolution of Final Fantasy XII to XIII will be as big as the evolution of Final Fantasy VI to VII. He also says that Final Fantasy XIII will probably be the first game to use the full specifications of the Playstation 3. Another interesting thing he mentioned was that the airship present in Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be able to take part in airborne assaults over the world map. Hopefully we'll see that in action soon. Finally, Dengeki also asked him once again whether the games will be Playstation 3 exclusives which he replied to with "Of course".

Move along, BOTS.

[rhood022]

Actually, SE reworked their "white engine" a while back to the "crystal tools," a multiplatform engine. That is where the speculation that FF XIII was coming to the 360 originated from.

[juuken]

Oh, I see rhood022. You have a point there.
But let me add that I am still doubtful FFXIII and Versus are coming to the 360. These games were advertised all over Japan as PS3 exclusives, according to eagle there.

[eagle21]

Square already had a releationship with MS. Square put games on xbox 1 (Final Fantasy 11) and others, they all flopped. Square puts games on 360, they pretty much will not be strong sales.

Playstation 3 is where they will make a profit from this game or if you will, the interest for buying gamers will be greater. And that goes for all the other games from Square.

Do you think Japan is going to get a whole big 360 just to play SO4 in 2009, when FFXIII and VERSUS and 100 other Japan Centric RPG's will be released over there? Maybe 4,000 people.

Final Fantasy XIII already has PS3 commercials in Japan since November 2006. Sony even owns shares of Square-Enix! You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than to ever see FFXIII on a 360.

This is just more of a stepping stone for the future. A little push in the right direction. It will take a decade to break Japan. Sony and Nintendo are just too strong.

[power of Green]

Calm down you PS3 fanboys this news story if just wishful thinking and just an envyous rant.

I'm sure other PS3 fanboys will be posting more of these angry theory posts.

The ingame graphics are surely taking advantage of the 360's hardware you wouldn't wan't a port anyways wouldn't be the same game atleast visually.

[rhood022]

@ Juuken

It's cool bro. I was just theorizing that, based on how it seems SE is doing business with Nintendo, MS, and Sony, it wouldn't be surprised at more of their tertiary titles, i.e. offshoot or new franchise titles, to go multiplat.

[lsujester]

I think we'll be seeing me riding to work on a Chocobo before we see FF XIII on a 360.

[Aquanox]

Infinite Undiscovery has been published by Square Enix under unclear circumstances. The game was initially being published by Microsoft but afterwards, this changed. Probably in an agreement between MS and SE so take advantage of the Square Enix name in Japan, who knows.

My point is, it's not true that Square Enix is developing an exclusive for each console. Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean are being developed by Tri-Ace, and while it's certainly a good indicator that SE is supporting Microsoft's console it doesn't mean that SE will not make any extra effort in order to push their titles on the Xbox 360.

If we would be talking about Dragon Quest then it would make sense. Dragon Quest is the biggest RPG in Japan, much bigger than Final Fantasy (most people ignore this) but this game is currently scheduled for the Wii and it makes all sense since it's by far, the most popular console in Japan. However, Final Fantasy demography is radically different:

Roughly 52% of Final Fantasy XII sales were outside Japan (America + Europe) and 63% of Final Fantasy X copies were sold in those regions.

What does this mean? Clearly, Western audience is extremely important for the Final Fantasy franchise, and software wise, the Xbox 360 is currently dominating in this region. This is a fact that SE producers will have a really hard time ignoring when the balance is made. Lets not forget this is the most expensive generation for videogame producers.

This is probably why a harcore Playstation publication like www.ps3fanboy.com writes: "... the Final Fantasy XIII games are still exclusive on PS3... For now."

[baum]

FFXIII Timed? Stupid troll. FFXIII is IMPOSSIBLE on 360. DVD9 is too small and for 50GB to fit on that 7.5 Gig disc, you would need at least 7 discs, and that is assuming you do not need to repeat any information on any disc, and that the game won't be open world.

If the game is linear, 360 might get it, but it would be too many discs and perhaps not worth the effort of annoying consumers (my guess would be up to 10 discs), but if it's open World, then 360 is screwed, and it might be considering Squeenix wants to expand Westward and renovate the series.

Using discs is already annoying and last-gen, but using tons of discs and games smaller than 7.5Gigs is waaaay worse. Had Microsoft used HD-DVD for 360, both MGS4 and FFXIII would have made it to 360, and perhaps as timed exclusives, but Microsoft had to screw developers and gamers, so either truly epic games wouldn't make it to the 360, or if they are, they would be gimped like GTAIV. The only thing that could save Microsoft is game streaming, but that is probably too far away. If games were streamed at 100Mbps, then FFXIII might be possible on 360 (but when that is possible, the next consoles would be on the horizon).

Anyway, last time I bother with you, idiot. <Ignore>

[DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl]

im pretty sure sony would hand a blank check to square if they even hinted at putting ffXIII or versus on any other system since they are rethinking paying for exclusives.

[Wolfmoonstrike]

either way to me. If it comes out on X360 and not the PS3, then I'll just pick it up for the 360. I plan to get one when Fable 2 hits. It seems to be a couple years down the road so, I might not even pick it up unless I'm hurting for a RPG then.

[heyheyhey]

MS pays for timed exclusivity, Square says "we don't know about a PS3 version" as extra marketing so that SO fans buy a 360 to be on the safe side

nuff said- it would be crazy for Square not to release SO on the Playstation platform from whence it came

[Mwaan]

Square Enix wants to keep both Microsoft and Sony happy. Sony wants to keep Final Fantasy at all costs and Microsoft wants it's own exclusive, proven series. I think anything could happen at this point. E3 should be interesting...

[v1c1ous]

1) MS needs to have a presence in japan regardless of how well they are selling. this is just another way to keep them in the limelight. they HAVE to do this, it's a matter of principles, and to at least have japanese developers producing games for their system. what doesn't sell in japan will be made up for in the west, but they still need to keep jpn companies making games for it

2) squeenix needs money...bad. and apparently, sony isn't bringing up the goods unless the words "final" and "fantasy" are involved. so squeenix, who's in a bit of a cash bind, wants to make a lil money on the side. nothing wrong with that. they are a company, and companies run on money. so MS pays for a timed exclusive, PS3 owners are still getting it, and nothing of value is lost.

that and SE can't turn a blind eye to all multiplatform games selling a gajillion copies.

so MS and SE scratch each other's back, and sony fans still get to enjoy it later on down the road.

ALSO, Lame article is Lame

[Swiftfox]

I am not so sure that Xbox 360 owners WANT JRPG's on the console. JRPG's before on the console have been met with little or no responce with the Xbox 360 audiance in the West OR Japan.

Keeping that in mind, wouldn't a co-release be more logical if the objective is money?

[v1c1ous]

360 owners don't want jrpgs?

then i guess PS owners don't want FPS, meaning killzone2 is just a sidejob for them.

[power of Green]

I see we're at the *ME TOO* stage already.

*Shock
*Dissbelief
*Anger
*Attack
*Me TOO.... already here woW

[Wildarmsjecht]

With a track record dating back to Bioshock, Ace Combat, Eternal Sonata, with rumors of Tales of Ves and quite a few others, it's really not that shocking. Timed exclusive is timed exclusive. Money makes 3rd party happy. I just want to know if all this money hatting is written down on their financial sheet to show a loss or gain.. hmnmmm...

[juuken]

Oh dear God, not you again.
You're like a really bad nightmare. :[

[PSMonster21]

Lets go POG, du du dududu!!! Your the man.

[thehitman]

I dont doubt that 360 will get some timed exclusives out of Square. Most of their good devs are stuck on the ps3 with ff13 and versus. After those 2 hit they will probably announce ps3 versions of the 360 rpgs that they are going to make.

[power of Green]

Will FF13 stay exclusive to PS3? if folks are so sure SO4 is going to PS3?.

PS3 will get it in 2010 2011? assuming its really going to PS3 lol.

[rhood022]

The difference is that SE has left no doubt that FF XIII is PS3 exclusive, at least the main game. Go back to any of the interviews concerning the game and its explicitly stated as such.

Now with SO, there is no such guarantee. If it were 100% exclusive, both MS and SE would say so. As neither is saying anything, it's easy to speculate that is only a timed exclusive.

[power of Green]

What difference? So4 will do good in Japan and FF13 will do good in the west. FF can sell in the west.

[rhood022]

This has nothing to do with where and how well it sells. You seemed to have missed the point entirely.

My answer was directed specifically at your assertion that just because people are sure that SO is going to the PS3 that it does not mean that FF XIII will stay exclusive.

The fact is that while FF XIII was confirmed 100% exclusive for the PS3, SO4 was not. This means that it is more probable that it will go to the PS3 than FF going to the 360.

Comprendes?

[pwnmaster3000]

SO4 its not gonna do good in japan if its 360.

it will be horrible. look at LO and Blue dragon

FF13 its never going to the 360 maybe like 2 years later but i highly doupt it.

they will have to downgrade them by alot to just so it can play it in the 360

POG ur like the most retarted person here u make xbots look stupid.

every time xbots jump around and celebrate wen they c a news about FF going to the 360, but it always get shutdown.then u guys say "so we go LO and Blue Dragon"

hahahahahahah pathetic

[baum]

"assuming its really going to PS3 lol. "

That "lol" in the end where you attempt to make us think you laugh actually reflects fanboy insecurity. You're the stupidest fanboy on the site, even more than Nasim and Mart. <Ignore>

[PSMonster21]

You tell em POG, your my hero. Get em where it hurts...oy.

[rev20]

Couldnt care less aslong as Final Fantasy is still on the ps3.

[MrWonderful]

its a win win situation for sony as they hold a large chunk of stock in squareenix. M$ pays for timed exclusive money goes in sonys pocket. then later they get the game and more money goes to sony.

[The Gaming priest]

As for my PS3 i gonna play Mgs4 and wait to see what gets announced at E3 and then make a decision on whether to keep it this year.

I dont want to wait i want games this year.

When is lbp and white knight chronicles coming out?

i mean no release date has been mentioned and with killzone 2 being delayed already who knows what will happen.

Right now ive gotta say apart from mgs4 im feeling like i backed the wrong horse and with £300 riding on it i aint taking any risks.

I could of played some great games this year and last if id held out on buying my PS3 with Gt prologue. Big mistake.

F it i wanna play Me,lo,BD,eternal sonata and so4/iu.

where are the dam rpgs SONY?

[KillaManiac]

Little Big Planet is later this year. You should keep your PS3 just for that game alone. It is gunna be revolutionary in console games!

I can't wait to be the Lizard and Killzone costumes!
Just watching any LBP makes me wanna give out a HUGE smile of happyness.

[Pornlord]

That's the thing, RPG's are just not the American gaming trend anyway. Aside from FFXIII, not one of these titles will make anywhere near the impact everyone is acting like they will.

[PoSTedUP]

MS has alot of money, but it will never effect sony. they can try, but in reality, this is sonys land. microsoft seems like it has the wrong game plan imo. nothing they have done recently has taken effect on anything they were hoping it would have.

[The Gaming priest]

Who also was dissapointed with GTprologue?

WHat can i say guess we can play blu rays casino royale FTW. :) :/ :| :[ :(

e3 better rock my socks off as a PS3 owner!!!

[rev20]

Not me GT5:P did exactly what they said it would.

Every important game ive wanted so far is either exclusive on ps3 or runs fine i dont see what everyone is complaining about.

RPG's take ages to develop jst because of the sheer size of the games everyone is so impatient, im pretty confident the wait for the ps3 ones will be worth it.

While im waiting im sat playing MGS4 what were we all complaining about again ;)

[DJtyler]

I agree. 2008 was supposed to be the year of the PS3. Now with God of War 3, FFXIII, Killzone 2, Infamous, as well as countless others not releasing this year PS3 owners are left with almost no quality exclusives. Looks like better luck next year. Again...

[lonestarmt]

this is silly. PS3 is still having a great year. Stop trying to hide the steam the ps3 is getting. Its still going to have white knight story, valkire chronicles, disegea 3, fall of man 2, little big planet, and HELLO MGS4 which comes out tommorrow. Hey, I'm mad at sony for not coming out with JRPGs fast enough, but I rather them take time on them and not have them rushed and be less impressive. GEEZ it only "maybe" lost star ocean 4 for a limited time and people on here are acting like its the end for sony. How soon people forget about MGS4. lol Calm down people. lol

[The Gaming priest]

SONY PS3 owners

Anyone else feel this way?

Getaway/8 days have been cancelled/delayed what the f next.

[KillaManiac]

Could honestly care less about 8 days..as we knew jack squat about it. Getaway is a downer, but as long as it didn't involve MGS4,FF13,FF13V,LBP....I am good to go!

[pwnmaster3000]

star ocean its gonna be timed exclusive.
why would they work hard and use hella money one a junk console and wen comes out it will sell like shiit...u kno wat scratch that it will sell worst then shiit.

if square aiming to go bankrupt then this the right thing to do, but if they want cash they need to go to the ps3.

which they will go to.

no one wants the 360 in japan look wat happen to the 2 FF killers LO sold in japan badly and look at blue dragon.

M$ reminds me of paris hilton there stupid people who throws money around to get wat they want

[Wildarmsjecht]

Thats hot.

Shudder..I feel so dirty now...gonna shower.

[juuken]

Oh no you didn'...
*feels dirty too and takes a shower as well*
I cannot STAND her. She gets away with too much sh*t these days.

[pwnmaster3000]

but M$ really is like Paris Hilton arnt they
they think there hella better then others
stupid people
and throwing around money to get wat eva they want and doesnt give a shiit how much it will cost

[Elginer]

One thing I just wanted to touch on though no one gives a damn is the whole "This won't sell in Japan" idea. Guess what folks, not much is selling there besides non-games and Wii stuff. Sure the PSP has it's one and only must have title "Monster Hunter" but besides that software sales for that system are kind of bleh. Japan today is not the gaming epic center it once was, I know it's hard to accept; now dry those nostalgic gaming tears. It's not all doom and gloom, it's simply that the gaming culture in Japan is not what it once was, the West is now where gaming is going. Japanese developers are catching on to this (Capcom is laughing to the bank) and Square-Enix is simply seeing that even if the install base for the PS3 is slowly gaining momentum, the one aspect that really matters to them; being software sales are not. On the other hand 360 owners seem to be gluttons for any sort of gaming they can find. Who can blame Square for simply seeing that and trying to make a buck. Sadly this whole affair has been a blip on the internets and not an all out meltdown. I await some Final Fantasy related game announcement making it's way to the 360 to incite a riot.

The developers are not making games for the hell of it, this a business; and one that needs to make an actual profit. The gaming consumer does not begin and end with Japan. Which is why more and more developers are spreading out their games; it's all so they can make a profit. System exclusives at least third party wise are going to be a rarity, people need to accept that. Timed exclusives are the new exclusive.

[lonestarmt]

haha I wouldn't say gluttons for any sort of gaming they can find. Thats why eternal sonata and beautiful katamari sold like crap, blue dragon and lost odyssey underperformed. Thats why ninja gaiden 2 and ace combat 4 had less than expected sales? 360 games get great sales, but don't pretend that japanese games sell well at all on the system.

[kewlkat007]

Capcom is one company that woke up and smelled the coffee and realized there are bigger emerging markets. remember they were the first so strip the PS of the DMC exclusivity.(First outcry of whiners this gen)

Now square and others are like "Wait a fn minute" and slowly realizing...

[Obama]

Of course it's going to be timed, since it's going to sell like crap on the 360. Even with the highly marketed LO the sales couldn't reach 1 million. I am just goint to wait for the superior ps3 version.

[Peow]

Wasn't star ocean 1 on the DC? If i remember correctly, didn't the main character have blue hair or something? x.x It's been a long time. I mostly remember MDK2 Armageddon. That game was fun. The farting aliens while you played as the 4 armed dog was the best. RUnning around with 2 mini guns was so fun.

[andron]

They would have said so by now...

Also it would be foolish to not go multi platform to maximize profit.

[kewlkat007]

final Fantasy series..

[hfaze]

Sony would be foolish not to out-bid Microsoft on Final Fantasy. That will be a big system seller...

Just like MGS4 (midnight launch, here I come) ;-)

[andron]

That it's generally not worth spending money on exclusives...

[baum]

Not bloody likely!

[ceedubya9]

If you want to play it, you'll wait for its possible PS3 release or just play it on 360 when it releases. Its only been a few days and this whole Square/Microsoft/RPG stuff has gotten old. Let's just be happy that we'll have another possible RPG on the way.

Oh, and MGS4 is very near. Let's chear up people!

[Spydiggity]

who cares

[vilmer]

Let's stop worrying about a game that isn't coming out for another year, and enjoy the gaming masterpiece that will release it's juices onto the world on the 'morrow.

[hfaze]

I'm going to be a walking zombie tomorrow at work... Getting MGS4 at 12:01am and probably playing 'till 4am... :-)

[Homicide]

POG has no weiner. Poor kid.

[power of Green]

Look at all these angry losers in here why don't you type out some more bullshit as this fool did creating this BS Article. I see 5 peoples comments and the rest are blank lol.

Had to put that "baum" nut on ignor too jesus take your meds sheeesh. If you can't stand or handle the 360 news stay the fuc out of all related posts Hot DAM. lol

[PSMonster21]

Ya POG, thats what I want to hear. I am your #1 fan.

[baum]

He calls *everyone else* a loser. I tell you that I put you on ignore because you're a dumb fanboy so the best you can tell everyone else (as if anyone cared?) is how you put me on ignore; thanks for wasting my time, next time I'll be sure not to press the "Show" button. How funny, POG says I should calm down and stop hating on 360. Just because I own fanboys on this part of the site it doesn't mean I hate 360 or PS3 like this guy thinks, I just love to own fanboys.

The funniest thing is (Worth lots of your "lol"), you tell me I need meds, but have you seen your posts? (No need to answer that, it's a rhetorical question, just in case you don't know). I guess you think you're normal and *not* a loser, but if that makes you happy be my guest.

Note to everyone: Just put this guy on ignore. If you do, he'll come back with another nickname, but you'll ignore it again. Eventually this 10 year old will go away. People, stop feeding this moron. He says he has everyone on ignore, forgetting most people on the site don't even see his posts. So he is pretty much isolating himself, doing the job for us anyway.

[caffman]

stop baiting the trolls. They are getting their knickers in a twist when I thought they would be playing MGS4. Oh and for the record, I could've bought at least 30 copies this morning where I live in the UK (and our town isn't that big) where as you couldn't find a copy of Halo 3 and GTA4 on the 360 for love nor money for at least the first week!

[Aclay]

There's no way in hell Star Ocean 4 is staying a 360 Exclusive and it will come out on the Playstation 3 without a doubt.

The majority of people that have played the Star Ocean games have been on the Playstation consoles, so it would really be dumb to just release Star Ocean 4 just on the 360. Western RPG's tend to sell better on the Xbox 360.

RPG's like Star Ocean 4 really isn't a type of RPG for the 360 audience to be honest and I don't think that Star Ocean 4 will sell well on the Xbox 360. JRPG's are best suited for the Playstation 3, Nintendo DS, PSP, and Wii.

[PoSTedUP]

he amuses me sometimes with the crazy BS he comes up with.

i just point and laugh : ]

he's just a fanboy that's missing out on alot of good games, and i somewhat feel sorry for him.

suck's to be a fanboy : ]

play games.

[Says you]

Only for (timed exclusive) considering there afraid to pay billions of dollars to get one exclusive on there system.

[Silvia007]

I don't care about exclusive's at all. I own both systems. Why limit yourselves people!

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

Most likely timed exclusive. The game is releasing in 2009 with a year exclusive on that it will be on the ps3 sometime in 2010.

[DFresh]

Yeah this game will stay exclusive like (Cough) Bioshock (Cough) Mass Effect (Cough) Gears of War 3.
It'll look better on the PS3.
360 is only worshipped in America and the rest of the world is PS3.
It would be stupid to make this game exclusive when the rest of the world is all about PS3 and the fact that the PS3 is guaranteed to last 10 years unlike the 360.
I'm just saying look at what's happened so far then look what will happen this year and beyond.
Everybody is going to be looking at PS3 and totally forget the 360.

[caffman]

where the ps3 is still behind the 360

[tojfs7931]

a timed exclusive, then yes it is staying on the 360. Get over it.

[caffman]

but I would LOVE kingdom hearts on the 360!

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

I think all these RPGs (Role Playing Games) being exclusive on the XBOX 360 is an experiment. To see if there is a potiential market for that platform but I really do think the DVD space puts limitation on RPGs. RPGs are about finding and exploring so with gamers today demanding more, it might be a challenge.