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Global Hardware and Software weekly ending July 26th

PS4 tops hardware , Youkai Watch 2 Ganso/Honke (3DS) takes top spot for software .

PS4 111,822
3DS 109,745
WiiU 59,429
XOne 55,037
PS3 44,639
PSV 36,825
X360 30,214
Wii 8,164
PSP 6,007

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NatureOfLogic_1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

Xbox One is having trouble outselling WiiU. Not a good sign for Xbox or MS. If this continues, Xbox One may see a early death this gen. Also, keep in mind that Xbox One is the least wanted next gen console globally, even with VGChartz overtracking it while undertracking other consoles.

PS3 44,639
Xbox One 55,037

Xbox One is done globally.

Godmars2901142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

But will MS really invest in an XB2? Much less try to reset 8th gen if nor jump-start the 9th.

iamnsuperman1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

Microsoft are that type of company to reinvest in a product that didn't do well (even if it doesn't do anything for the wider company). Look at the first surface. That bombed hard (which, amongst other things, forced out the then CEO). Yet Microsoft are continuing the line making it even more niche than before (I really don't get their approach to the surface. They are trying to push an ecosystem with a niche product). The new CEO seems more Ballmer than fresh blood.

This is why, not matter what happens (though I am not saying it will be bad for the One), there will be another Xbox by Microsoft. I mean they haven't given up on bing at that holds about 19% of the market.

scotmacb1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

One thing is for sure MS will never sell a weaker machine again they will make sure its more powerful next time thats sony's fault for changing specs at the last minute lol i think its funny how everyone is saying death to x1 this is a long race and its still only the start anything can happen in 7-9yrs

BiggerBoss1141d ago

I doubt MS are going to drop out of the console race. They're not doing THAT bad. Even if they stay in third place, I believe they'll keep supporting the Xbox one until software sales start to decline, and then they'll try to jump start the next gen like they did with the 360 to get a jump start on Sony. I doubt they'll try to release new hardware before the 5 year mark, but this gen definitely won't last as long as the last.

Godmars2901141d ago

Considering the XB1's launch, if they do anything, you really think they're going to wait five years?

frostypants1141d ago

@BiggerBoss: The problem is that the bigger the disparity grows, the harder it will be for MS to secure exclusives.

BiggerBoss1141d ago

@frosty, yes that's true, but just because they get less exclusives doesn't mean they'll stop making consoles. Come on. Ps4 is gonna dominate this gen for sure, but that doesn't mean that Xbox is gonna be discontinued.

Chaoticmoon1141d ago

An early jump-start for gen 9 may come with backlash from the 5 million (or so?)xbone owners being dropped for a new console. People who buy consoles hope to get a certain lifespan out of them before the nextgen comes and especially with lastgen being so long that is what people come to expect. Also a brand new console would require a lot of R&D investments and I can see the shareholders not being a fan of that.

Godmars2901141d ago

@BiggerBoss:
MS's "problem" is that they have always been more about traffic than leading the pack. If that makes any sense.

I mean that while they want to present themselves as an industry leader, what they really want to be are middlemen. The guys everyone has to come to. Who have the hand in everything, and thus gets paid by everyone.

Windows is about being the OS everyone needs, and that business model applies to everything that they've done since: to be something everyone needs.

That someone else was there first, unlike DOS or Windows, is besides the point.

Tony-A1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

@Godmars

Exactly. Microsoft is primarily a software company and so they naturally think like a software company. I think that the XBO is suffering this generation because of that reason.

When selling proprietary hardware, you have to have your sights set to the leadership position, not necessarily to become "everybody's box". It sounds odd because, why wouldn't they want their box in every home? The thing about making and selling hardware is that you need to have a purpose.

There's an old saying that goes "if you attempt to be the jack of all trades, you tend to come off as an expert in nothing." They wanted to make a definitive console for everything you do in the living room, but it doesn't do anything particularly better than anything else. And if you were to ask MS what the hell the main point of the box is, they're response when they revealed it would've been "an everything box." It's only further damaged by the fact that it's now trying to be the best gaming console, but it's clearly not (specs wise).... so why would I buy it?

Sonys message was: "This is a PS4. The best place to play."

Nintendo's was: "This is Nintendo in HD. All your favorite classic franchises." It's niche but hey, there's a clear message.

MS had: "This is the XBO. It's a gaming console, but our main goal is TV!... but you can still play Halo!... and yes, you WILL want Kinect!... even though it was first meant for games, but is now mainly our version of Siri!"

With software, it's easy. Get yourself out there, on everything. With hardware, something has to sell it - what you choose to be good at will become your main demographic. Kinda explains why Windows is on almost every PC, yet they can barely make a dent in the smartphone market against Apple.

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iamnsuperman1142d ago

Depends by what you mean as an early death. If it doesn't pick up Microsoft will not let it last as long as the 360 did but they are not going to abandon ship and start again any time before the 5 year mark. It will not go down well with investors, consumers and developers/publishers.

gfk3421142d ago

It seems that some of people commenting on this site were right. XONE is not competing with PS4, but rather with WiiU. Something must be done by Microsoft. For start they should lower the price so to correctly reflect the power difference. Also the price should reflect also the fact that Kinectless XONE doesn't have voice commands, while PS4 has this feature out of the box.

kenshiro1001141d ago

But didn't they have a pricecut before? They still didn't do any better.

The console needs true exclusives, not exclusives that go to the PC like a year later or some other console.

Halo and Gears isn't going to cut it anymore.

IrishSt0ner1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

Ever hear of confimration bias, this place is full of it?

Using the same BS stats site, the regions where X1 is available:

EUROPE/USA - Xbox One - 4.67 million
EUROPE/USA - Wii U - 4.45 million

So Xbox One has sold more in 9 months than the Wii U has in 1 year and 9 months.

Yet they're claiming Xbox One will finish behind it, really? /smh

Stealth disagree people, come on stand up and prove that wrong...

iamnsuperman1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

Those people claiming that are more looking at the pace the Xbox One is selling now and not how quickly it has sold since launch. Both the Wii U and One saw big demand the first couple of months but the demand soon diminished. So in a way they are, apparently, selling at roughly the same rate. That is what those people are talking about and it isn't such a ridiculous assumption to make (based of these figures)

I do feel Microsoft has wiggle room than Nintendo (Microsoft just needs to make more attractive games and build up a bigger catalogue, Nintendo has to do that and compensate for the lack of third party support and being new to the online scene) to improve those current sale trends

IrishSt0ner1141d ago

@iamnsuperman - 'apparently selling roughly at the same rate'... can't really use weekly sales to back that arguement up when Xbox has sold more (where available) in less than half the time. So, I'm saying what they're talking about is statistically wrong, I'll take objective reasoning over conjecture all day long.

Going by historic sales in another 9 months X1 will be double that of Wii U sales.

Unless Nintendo pulls out another 'Wii revolution' and beats both MS and Sony again I really don't see how it can be even considered to be competing with X1.

Really IMO, the only interesting battle is by how much PS outsells Xbox overall this generation.

MysticStrummer1141d ago

"can't really use weekly sales to back that arguement up when Xbox has sold more (where available) in less than half the time."

"Going by historic sales in another 9 months X1 will be double that of Wii U sales."

If by "historic sales" you mean overall total, you have to take into account that more than half of XB1's sales happened in 2013. That skews the overall number to make the console's performance look better than it is.

BiggerBoss1141d ago

You're disregarding the fact that over 3 million of those Xbox one sales were launch/2013 sales. If the Wii U managed to consistently keep outselling Xbox one, it could definitely keep Xbox one in third place. I doubt that will happen however, because Xbox one has greater appeal in America which is where the majority of sales will happen. It could definitely go either way though

iamnsuperman1141d ago

Like the other two mention, the Xbox numbes are skewed by that initial release. Same thing happened with the Nintendo numbers (They sold quite a lot by the end of the launch year). The weekly data helps as if Microsoft can't over take Wii U's sales it never will (as a total)

IrishSt0ner1141d ago

So Wii U sales aren't 'skewed' by it's own launch or subsquent good sales periods, how do you even justify that?

This is not rational guys, I'm really at a loss how these arguments are formulated, MS numbers are skewed but Nintendo's are not?

Basically what I'm hearing is Wii U beat X1 this week therefore 'if it continues' then X1 is in third place, but lets ignore past sales due to MS numbers being skewed and Nintendo's number are not.

That friends, is a perfect example of a straw man's argument.

I'm calling BS frankly, applying one weeks sales figures as a means to formulate an outcome completely ignoring past data trends is ludicrous, and most importantly wrong.

Ol_G1141d ago

yeah you're totally ignoring japan where the x1 isn't out and where it wouldn't sell if it was
the thing is Wii U is also selling in japan and x1 certainly isn't going to sell there and i have 2 previous gens to back that statement up
you're the one ignoring the japanese market that puts the Wii U far ahead of x1 only to make some kind of argument and for what ? is someone paying you for this do you have shares?

D-riders1141d ago

MS and nintendo are differnt one is a video game comspnay and the other is a software company. the game company has no choice but to keep rolling with it. Ms can t say were out of here

wolfcreek1141d ago

facts are facts the wiiu has sold almost 7 million to xbox 4.5. second xbox wont sell in asia and the wiiu is #1 in asia, Xbox will never catch wiiu. Nintendo is # 1 in first party games sells also

Boody-Bandit1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

@Irish

Currently the XBOX ONE is in 3rd place while being 2 million units behind to the 2nd place Wii U.

So it doesn't matter when the Wii U or X1 were released. The Wii U is current ahead of the X1 and outpacing it week after week worldwide. That's it, full stop, end of story. It's really that simple.

They have 2 million+ units to make up and currently are being outsold by the 2nd place competitor. Again, it really is that simple.

lpfm1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

@Irish

I will "draw" for you.

"if x > y and a > b, then x + na > y + nb"

x = number of wii u sold, life
y = number xbone sold, life

a = number of wii u sold per week
b = number of xbone sold per week

n = number of weeks

You got it?

harrisk9541141d ago

The difference between XB1 and WiiU sales/projections is that the XB1 came out of the gate at launch and sold a lot of units. Since then, the XB1 has been selling very lackluster and not moving units even with "heavy hitters" such as Titanfall, the "hype" coming out of E3 and the unbundling of Kinect. It is still being outsold by a considerable margin by PS4, even in the U.S., XB's home turf.

The WiiU, by comparison, sold lackluster coming out of the gate at launch, marred by a lack of games and customer confusion over what it was compared to the Wii. The WiiU is no gaining momentum, "system sellers" are being released and Nintendo's E3 direct created a lot of buzz.

In other words, the XB1 and WiiU, at this point, appear to be on reverse trajectories of each other.

GordonKnight1141d ago

Nintendo is NOT in competition with the X1. They are in different categories. The X1 & PS4 copy each other and Nintendo. Nintendo is in its own world which works for them. All three of have evolved gaming for the better. So why hate on one of them?

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XStation1141d ago

There's over 300 million people in the U.S alone and millions everywhere else...over a billion in China. You think the Xbox One is done globally when the generation just started? Come on now.

frostypants1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

They've been on the market long enough to get a viable sample size. Basic statistical reasoning says that there's no reason to believe that this trend will ever change.

plasticidolatry1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

Xbox will never catch up to PS4 in global sales. It's a weak brand outside of the US and UK, and it can't even take those two countries.

PS4 will likely outsell Xbox in China, like every other country on the planet.

Master-H1141d ago

Exactly, also not taking into account the multiple billion inhabitants of planet Neptune, who are major supports of the xbone brand..

TekoIie1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

@ArgumentumAdPopulum

So when the Xbox One is still here after 2 years (for arguments sake) should I assume that its dead or that you were overexaggerating?

Im sorry but we heard this with the Wii U and it was in a far worse situation. Hell with 3rd party it's still in a worse situation but somehow not dead...

These numbers are not by any means great, but they're also not bad.

GribbleGrunger1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

Why do we keep getting numbers a week old when VGC is always a week behind too. These numbers are now nearly two weeks old. Here are the new numbers with TLOU sales. 2nd August:

PS4: 181,841
XB1: 53,927

TLOUR: 293,141 (US). Who was it that said this game wouldn't sell well and wouldn't sell consoles?

And the newly adjusted figures, in line with official numbers are:

PS4: 9.3m
XB1: 5m

Note: They still haven't adjusted the PS4 up for Germany.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

Here are the adjustments for this week 'added' to the adjustments from previous week:

PS4 UP 346.534
3DS UP 96.538
WIIU UP 89.567
Xbox One UP 29.237
PS3 UP 400.450
PSVita UP 31.944
Xbox360 UP 496.139
WII UP 5.789
PSP UP 6.007

Clarence1141d ago

Great job sir. The gap keeps getting larger. It's definitely evident that M$ DRM, Internet check in policies, weaker hardware have cost them this gen.

AWBrawler1141d ago

at this rate Wii U has a better chance of catching PS4 than XBox One. I doubt it will, but it clearly has the better chance

Magicite1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

Besides Minecraft (damn, those legs) xbox is out of software charts.

PS4 won USA both in hardware and software sales now.

TLOU Re: did really well.

FITgamer1141d ago

Numbers for August 2nd more than 3:1 in PS4 favor.

GribbleGrunger1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

There's still a 30,000 PS4 adjustment for Germany missing.

DJustinUNCHAIND1141d ago

You all said the same thing about the Wii U.

reaperofsouls1141d ago

vgchartz has just update for the 2nd of august have a look! ps4 9.3 m xbone 5 wiiu 6.9

AWBrawler1141d ago

yep It'll be pretty dang funny if after smash bros Wii U starts battling with PS4 numbers every week the way its doing with XBox One now.

harrisk9541141d ago

Does anyone know when the official NPD numbers come out this month?

GordonKnight1141d ago

Lets just hope Microsoft doesn't purchase Sony. As Sony's other departments are gushing red ink.

harrisk9541141d ago

WTF? Are you making a joke or just trolling? I can't tell, although I would probably go with the latter.

kenshiro1001141d ago

Okay Mr. Investor, we believe you. Sony is totally going down under. Stick a fork in it, they're done./s

If I had a nickel for every time you so called investors claim that Sony's sinking faster than the Titanic, I'd be rich.

You guys are so full of it.

TheRedButterfly1141d ago

Xbox One hasn't even launched globally sooooo.......

rainslacker1141d ago

Technically, neither has PS4.

carlord1141d ago

Xbox one have not been launched in scandinavia yet, the release date is september 5.
I am getting the xbox day one in sept 5 and so will thousends of other scandinavians do. So look at vgchartz week 37 on europe.
(Scandinavia is not in the prior 1 list on Ms, maby they dont like polar bears ;)

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DeadlyOreo1142d ago

I know these numbers aren't official or anything, but if Xbox One numbers are anywhere close to those numbers Microsoft are in a lot of trouble.

S2Killinit1142d ago

wow, PS4 more than doubled xbone numbers. MS antics finally caught up to them.

Spotie1142d ago

It's not that the antics caught up. It's that the numbers did. After all, this is VGChartz. It's the last place the numbers would start showing the truth.

It was a little slow in the making, but these are the sorts of numbers that should be expected when you do what Microsoft did or tried to do. Not all of us gamers are quick to forgive.

S2Killinit1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

while the fumbles of launching xbone are definitely hurting them, i believe that the main reason why Playstation is outselling them is because of MS's strategy in the previous generations. Namely, their lack of support for gaming in the second half of their console's lifespans. Each generation MS buys exclusives at the beginning of the generation (Gears/Titanfall), then slows down once the gamers adopt their console. MS moves on to casuals, and just rehashes the few heavy hitters gaining big sales numbers because the core gamers are hungry. Sony consoles by contrast keep churning out exclusives, and new IP's throughout each generation and beyond the release of next generation hardware.

As for the "antics" though, I was also referring to MS's advertising strategies. I feel (and this is my opinion) that MS has a tendency to focus their advertising efforts in negative advertising for the opposition. For example, about this same time, last gen, there were news articles about how the Playstation 3 "didn't have games". This time around PS4 has more games, and yet there are cries about how the games are "all indie". Both statements are incorrect of course, and yet the articles keep churning out. It is my opinion that this is MS money at work.This is in line with MS's advertising against other competition like Apple. If true, I have to say that I prefer companies that rely on positive advertising about their own products only and leave the competition to do what they do.

zagambe1141d ago

S2Killinit certainly agree on MS advertising tactics part. They really do Anti advertisements to the competition. Like they did against apple's iPad and Google's Gmail products.

rainslacker1141d ago

I think assuming MS is pushing this "PS4 is mostly indies" thing is more the biased media and forum fan boys than MS astro-turfing to try and make it into something.

Don't get me wrong, it certainly is a pervasive argument, but seems like a console war argument, and it obviously hasn't affected sales negatively for Sony.

If anything, Sony has embraced this whole indie thing by saying, "Hey, look at all these great indie games" at the same time they're showing exciting new AAA IP's and old favorites. Sony is basically just showing that their console is about games, and that's why I believe they are having so much success.

You really only have to look on the shelf at GameStop to see that the PS4 actually has just as many, if not more games right now, and quite a few of those would obviously be appealing to a perspective buyer. For the hardcore buyers, they already know the truth, and they either already made their decision, or they won't let this tired argument influence their decision anyways.

TheFallenAngel1141d ago

Or maybe it has nothing to do with ms tactics but with playstation being a better brand.

S2Killinit1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

Although its not evident from my comment, i completely agree with you.

iceman061141d ago

I think it's a combination of everything that you and S2Killinit have said. Add to that, the initial price disparity. We have to remember that there is a group of gamers that aren't dedicated to exclusives. Really, they just want to play sports games and CoD as cheaply as possible. PS4 presented this option, with arguable better performance, right from the start. Add to that the fact that PS3 outpaced MS from the get go, even at a significantly higher price, last gen. (which is how they were able to pull even, despite a year head start) Let's not forget the ill will garnered by MS at the beginning of this gen. MS dug themselves a hole and now they have an uphill battle in front of them.

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ltachiUchiha1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

I know vgchartz always undertracks ps4 sales and overtracks xb1 sales but even with the same price & cheaper xb1, it still aint budging ps4 sales. I believe the ps4 has sold way more with the TLOU Remastered bundle.