The similarities between the two IPs are actually quite astonishing, and as Halo defined one generation, Destiny might define another.
Very big claim. But the beta I played was solid IMO. Fun squad gameplay that has a lot of potential if they make some necessary changes like better connectivity to other squads and some more customization options. I'm looking forward to it whether or not it is as big as Halo.
Halo will be this generation's Halo.
Beat me to it lol
He beat me to it too...Lmao. Destiny will be Destiny and Halo will always be Halo.
I say the same thing when sports fans compare players. Jordan is Jordan, Kobe is Kobe, LeBron is Lebron, Peyton is Peyton, Brady is Brady, etc and so on. Why pit them up against each other? Let them be exceptional in their own right. I for one can't recall anyone saying, "There are just too many great games to play! Seriously, slow it down!" I'm looking forward to Destiny a bit more than Halo but only because it's new. I like trying new. I want all these devs to dig deep and try to offer us as many new IPs as possible. Don't abandon sequels. If anything make them better than ever. I simply want more diversity, variety and these devs taken some serious chances.
Damn it...you beat me to it as well
Agreed. The only way destiny will dethrone halo will be if there was no more halos.
Halo has been dying the last three years.
Um... Halo has been dethroned long ago. Not sure how the IP sells now, but it hasn't sold its crazy numbers since Reach... And it's had 2 halo games released since then. I agree that halo will be this gen's halo. But Destiny... Man that Game, so much scope, so much addiction... I can't wait for September 9th.
I don't see why everyone freaks out about destiny. I played the beta and was a little let down. I expected something new and innovative and I don't really think destiny does anything groundbreaking. If I compare it to halo, it just comes up short. The basic gameplay is just not as good. There are not going to be a ton of missions or land to cover. Its like you mixed a little halo with a little borderlands. Halo's gameplay was better and borderland's leveling and looting was better. The game just comes up short. I will still get it because I was really looking forward to it and there is nothing else coming out that I want until october. Hopefully it will surprise me.
While there are similarities I think both of them are quite different. I do think however that more people will play Destiny on Xbox and that it has a more long term appeal. @Farma I hated the Borderlands loot system ever enemy you drop throws loot at you and there is nothing special about getting a new item and it doesn't take long before you find a new one and discard your previous one. IGN had two videos this week where they talk about raids and high level characters. Every equipment has a ton of upgrades to unlock and raiding from the video sounds great with no free Boss kills but actuall skill and teamwork required.
@objdadon its not dying if it keeps selling. @sevir how could the top selling xbox exclusive be dethroned long ago?...Please explain.
This Multiplatform garbage. Hell naaaaaa. Halo will be exclusive, play better & look better. Sounds like a Sony fan still looks for a halo killer. Won't ever happen.
I don't think that's what this article is implying. Lol If anything this article implies that just like the original Halo, which was huge at the time and evolved the FPS genre into the next generation of consoles. (Which is an opinion some have. I honestly never played the first Halo game so I can't say.) The article maker basically believes that Destiny is the Halo 1 of this generation. Now wether this is true remains to be seen.
Personally I can't see how people are trying to compare the people are arguing that Destiny will be as influential as Halo CE. Halo CE set the standard of how console FPS still work today. Destiny looks and plays like a hybrid of Halo and Borderlands. Destiny will be as influential as Titanfall.
Das- you can't be serious. Titianfall is pvp only and is very barebones. Destiny has an incredible amount of depth. And whys it hard to believe that the guys that MADE Halo could make another game just as influential? No matter what Halo going forward will always just be a shell of itself.
I got a PS4 first this Gen, been Halo fan since the beginning, did more than most by researching the lore about the Didact and the precursors and stuff after completing the game and such but after playing through Halo 4 I'm worried about the series even though whats been confirmed so far with the multiplayer is good. The Halo 4 Hype dropped almost as fast as the Titanfall Hype. The Population was decreasing so rapidly on the game that I thought that their was some sort of viral infection transmitted through the disk or something. These are things you cant deny and while I know the " A true fan and what not would still play it " I would of kept playing it, if it was as fun as the older Halos but it just wasnt for me.
Well with Destiny playstation just got halo because it plays very similar and guess what? Made by the same developer
COD already "dethroned" Halo. Look at the numbers. And now Destiny will be this generations franchise. Halos dying, because it's creators have moved on to something better, and so should you.
Nope. The PvP is way too unbalanced and needs addressing before launch. I love the setting of Destiny and I'm very intrigued to see how Bungie handles the story. problem with games of this type where everyone is "the one" is that the story struggles to connect with the player and make you feel like you matter. I think we can all agree that Destiny is Halo. Or more, where Bungie would have taken Halo.
I thought it was unbalanced too until i learned how to play.
Why do you think it's unbalanced? From what I played it was fine once you learned the mechanics and realized that when someone had a super you had to play perfect.
PVP is pretty balanced considering all gun damage is equalized, what matters with the guns in the PVP in terms of how much damage you do is Impact.
It's not really any more or less unbalanced as PvP in MMOs. I played with a character that had pretty much the best gear possible for level 8. While there had been matches where I got my ass handed over it wasn't down to gear and just because the other person played better. The only one that can be unbalanced is the Iron Banner because all balancing is deactivate so that's like entering a Battleground in WoW eith max level. If your gear isn't up to the task you will get slaughtered. If your gear isn't great you shouldn't expect to kick ass and win by a landslide. In PvP like the Iron Banner in the Beta there shouldn't be really balancing of nerfing players with good equipment because people will most likely have to spend a lot of time to get the very good gear so why shpuld they get penalised and their gear turned useless they spent all that time to get? There will also be a lot of looking at stats, upgrades and skills to figure out what are the most usefull skills and stats for PvP and deciding what suits one the best. Do I want to get my super faster or do I rather wear something with more armor but less Intellect (I think that reduced the super cooldown)? I think that's quite cool. As a long time WoW player what I have seen in the Beta is right up my alley.
Destiny would be a great game in its own way =P.
No it will not! It doesn't have the personality halo has.
It has more! Xbox fans are still bitter about Bungie being multiplatform and partnering with Sony? Yeah.
Why would they be bitter when Microsoft allowed them to walk? Kept the franchise they love? And some of the top talent from Bungie? While also still being able to play Destiny. Serious question, why do you think it has more personality?
Ther isn't a charecter in the game that i see myself giving two [email protected]#ts about. Halo had chief,cortona,sgt. Johnson, halsey,kelly, etc..... who does Destiny have?
Destiny will never ever ever be as good as Halo. Haze was suppose to be like Halo...nope didn't work.
Lots of people never liked halo but like destiny so.... yeah.
Lots of people don't like Destiny, but like Halo. So what?
Well From my experience, it's doing things Halo will never be, and it's scale is larger than anything halo will be in its entire life.
Well its a completely different game so that a given! The problem is that there is to much of Halo in Destiny
@Shinrock... yes and is that a bad thing? I mean. LOOK who MADE Halo? 5 Halo Games came solo from the house that built it! while 3 came from a team assembled to take over the reigns. This hate for Destiny is unsound and silly especially when people say Destiny is Halo with MMO aspects. If you LOVE halo that much then the premise of DESTINY as so many coined it should be exciting. Especially for those Halo Vets that enjoyed Halo and Played destiny and says it feels like just more open and bigger. I'm confused. maybe its the alignment with Sony, maybe its the PS exclusive content... Either way complaining about it falls on deaf ears. Everyone who loved the beta are getting the game and that's a more than 90% of the beta players.
Lol Haze, been a while since Xbox fans had been bringing that one up to "prove" that nothing will ever be better than Halo. Halo 1 and 2 are great and amazing games. Halo 3 was a huge disappointment and highly overrated, ODST was so so and I didn't play Reach or 4 but my friends had not been too impressed with either of them. So I think it will depend on what Halo game you compare it to. Shouldn't be too hard to beat any Halo game post Halo 2.
It's already better......
"Destiny will never ever ever be as good as Halo." No point in me buying it then. I've never understood why Halo was so big.
We hope. But this game is dry and a clone of so many elements taken from ,Halo, Bl2, Diablo.... The world has no character or soul like BL2 had. (Yes Im comparing them since they were highly influenced by it). The worlds are so static. Every fight feels like Im fighting simple AI bots in an old Unreal bot match. Straight boring and no challenge at all once you learn how easy it is to use obstacles to dodge return fire. The tower is just fluff to give you illusion that an instanced hub is a MMO. Everything it offers could've been done in a quick menu. The voice acting isn't good. Yes hes supposed to be a robot but its so bland( see BL2,Star Wars,Black Hole movie, hell anything with a robot). It's as if hes holding the script 3 inches from his face reading it off. The PVP matches were just copy past Halo 4 code. Very small and boring with serious imbalances. Worse than COD maps were you just do circles around the map shooting each other as you spawn in. I really hope pretty gun skins and playing barbie dress up are your thing because that's what they hoping keeps you paying and playing. My opinion of course. Its like TitanFall all over again. Everyone is super hyped and dead set that a devs previous game is enough to make this release even better. We saw how that went.
So much right on this comment! Well said. My biggest problem with the game design's strategy is its ultra generic MP. Why the F not do it into the "open" world?!?!?!
"The PVP matches were just copy past Halo 4 code" You crazy. "Every fight feels like I'm fighting simple AI bots in an old Unreal bot match." You must of been playing on the easiest difficulty because as you go up to harder difficulties the AI truly shines with the enemy AI assisting one another by distracting you so that others can flank behind you and stuff and honestly how did you go about testing the AI, did you just shoot willy nilly or did you fire , initiate confrontation and watched the AI's reaction to certain things. It honestly sounds more like your talking about Borderlands AI than Destinys. "Its like TitanFall all over again." This whole Hype thing is not new Halo 4 went through it before Titanfall and we all saw how that went. I know I sound like some defensive fanboy but its just maddening to see stuff like this I'm not fanboying I'm being realistic I'm worried about things with Destiny as well.
Lol. The naysayers are in the vocal minority! Destiny is fantastic in all its accounts and these guys hate to see that it's becoming this thing that'll shine on its merits of being completely socially integrated and deep and insanely bigger than anything Halo ever was. So let them talk. The vocal minority makes the most noise, while the quiet majority enjoys the experience. That's gaming in this day and age. Haters hate.
Cranking up the difficulty doesnt increase bot ai. More hitpoints/damage make no difference
Your opinion sucks.
As does your. Hell of a post to spend your single comment on.
Yea, I don't see it. Well made game but it doesn't have the PVP balance or "hook" that Halo does and I think the story (all 6 missions of it that I've played) are just story exposition while flying (i.e. loading) the mission, kill enemies, activiate ghost, walk to next spot, kill enemies, activate ghost with horde waves, mission over. I like Bungie a lot and Desitny is obviously well made but it's not for me while I can't wait to play Halo: Master Chief Collection and the Halo 5 beta later this year. They are two different games with similar shooting mechanics.
Because Halo was totally an MMO and multi-platform.
I think they're point was it was a sci-fi shooter with great shooting mechanics which is what Destiny is too from a high level view. Oh, and they're made by the same company. I get the high level comparisons with the same developer, etc. but it shouldn't be compared piece by piece since it is different enough.
Oh, I figured they actually had points behind it. I didn't really care much to check the article, mind you. Not necessarily because I wasn't interested, but because, being at work, it would be hard to sit down and actually get that time to do so right now. I just took issue with the title itself. It implies an almost direct comparison between the two, where something like, say, "Will Bungie's Destiny Meet Halo's Quality?" would be far more fitting, I feel.
yeah destiny is not an MMO. Everyone should stop calling it that.... this is just a game where you can play co-op with a lot of people... thats all
So, it serves both the "Massively-Multiplayer&qu ot; and "Online" elements needed to make it, well, an MMO. It's no different than Planetside being an MMO with just a bunch of people shooting each other. You don't need to have all of the regular MMO contrivances in order to fall under the classification what is actually an MMO.
then battlefield is an mmo because you can play with over 32 people in a single game. farmville is a freakin MMO then your arguing semantics. Yes, you can technically play at the same time as other people and yes it is online. That does not make it an MMO. There is a huge difference in an MMO and destiny.
Nothing will ever be Halo. Destiny can be one of the big new franchises of the gen but it is no Halo.
Ha ha ha a ha ha wooooooooooow that was funny I pissed my pants from laughing so hard.they may have been made by the same developers but seriously doubt lighting will strike twice in their favor. But still worth a laugh to even think so.
I'm not sure if all the detractors here are implying that the game won't be the next Halo because it's a completely different type of game and probably won't change the console FPS landscape, or if they are referring to sales. Destiny WILL outsell Halo, by a wide margin, since it's on multiple consoles. Whether or not it has long legs and even more successful future releases will be determined by it's quality and reception at release, but it will sell a ton in the first few days at least. I think a better argument would be to say that Destiny will be this generations Call of Duty. I'm not saying it will be, but the argument could be made. CoD:AW comes out just a couple months after it, and will probably outsell it because of multi-console, cross generational noteriety. The big question will be if CoD outsells Destiny on the PS4 and XBO. Anyway, people need to be less defensive about their games. Halo isn't sacred, it's a video game franchise. There WILL be plenty of people who prefer Destiny over Halo, simply due to the nature of the games being different in many ways. Also, both games (Destiny and Halo 5) will be on XBox-only gamer's system of choice, so there is no reason to choose. To me, I am looking forward to Destiny a lot more than Halo 5. Halo 4 was definitely the weakest of the Halo games, and I don't think Bungie not being the developer is a small reason why. I have stunted expectations for Halo 5, and see no reason to think it will be a landmark quality title. Destiny, on the other hand, is something new, and is a passion project for the company that created all the best Halo's. The beta was a lot of fun, but I've played in WAY too many limited betas to make a final game assumption based on it, one way or the other (open beta's where the entire game is given are usually good indicators of what the final game will be, usually from MMOs). I'll play both games, then I will decide if Bungie made a new franchise that I will care about further in the future and if Halo has become a franchise that I care less about than I once did.
Halo 4 was DEFINITELY NOT the weakest Halo
Only one I will concede is ODST, but that is hard to count as part of the main franchise with 1-3 and Reach, considering it was more of a side-game that turned into a major release.
Your right Halo SA was lol
It is in my book, I used to be able to play the older ones for hours without having friends or anything on just playing alone enjoying it, with Halo 4 I could barely even stomach an hour with or without friends, COD was even more enjoyable to me at that point which was incredibly saddening.
After playing the hell out of the beta for Destiny i can say with all my gaming heart these 2 games are completely different lol. I dont even know how people compare the 2, Halo has one of the best all time stories ever in video games, while Destiny doesnt have much of a story its more based on MMO type levels that give you missions. Halo has probably the best multiplayer PVP ever in gaming in a FPS, its just perfect, the Destiny PVP is insanely unbalanced. Destiny is made by bungie and is Scifi thats pretty much the only reason why people are saying its like Halo and we all know it.
Could not have said it better myself. I always say nothing is like Halo and once Destiny comes out that claim of mine still stands. It still blows my mind people are calling this a bigger and better Halo when they have hardly anything in common. It makes me question if all these people have actually thoroughly played Halo let alone the Destiny beta.
LOL o no it won't
Halo will not be as big as destiny because it multiplat. I think halo was great but it should have gotten left in last gen
Halo has many great years ahead. Great universe, great characters, great soundtrack.... I haven't played Reach or halo4, but I m looking for the MCC big time.both will do great, but I think halo will edge out destiny.
Thats stupid son. Halo will be this gens Halo.
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