"According to a new report released by the Japanese Business Journal, there is infighting currently raging amongst the Nintendo upper management" -- Nintendo Enthusiast.
Iwata is not the best choice. Seriously this guy needs to go. Oh and the nonsense about him being a good prez just because he won't sell-out by putting Nintendo franchises on cellphones is nonsense. No sensible Nintendo fan would want that. Just because he knows that much, doesn't prove he's the best. I wish Nintendo could regain it's spirit for true domination again. I'm tired of Iwata's complacency. Finally, I think that giving the company to just any Yamouchi kin is not exactly smart, but there are plenty of capable chair members who could easily best Iwata.
Finally, I think that giving the company to just any Yamouchi kin is not exactly smart, but there are plenty of capable chair members who could easily best Iwata. - AND YOU KNOW THIS HOW? You're just talking out of your ass. You don't know how any of the other board members would run Nintendo better than Iwata. I bet you don't even know the other board members names without looking them up on Google.
Actually if u look through my comment history u will find that i've advocated for Tatsumi Kimishima for a long time. He was asigned as president of Nintendo of America during Nintendo's best years in America, and has a background in development/game management too. He is also a chair member. Just because YOU don't know of any other members doesn't mean they don't exist. Iwata's Nintendo is a far cry from Yamouchi's. But Kimishima's Nintendo was a huge part of mak8ng Yamouchi's Nintendo strong. Want the SNES and N64 type days back? Look towards Kimichima's. Not Iwata.
@DonDon "Just because YOU don't know of any other members doesn't mean they don't exist." I'm not even a Nintendo fan but I know who your talking about. I guess yellow isn't as big of a Nintendo fan that I thought he was. It isn't difficult to use google to look up the people who work in those companies. "Iwata's Nintendo is a far cry from Yamouchi's." Your talking about Hiroshi right? He was a brilliant man. May he rest in peace. :(
The fact that they don't put their very old games on mobile is really stupid imo. They could easily do that, and offer significant discount on their own platforms. So Pokemon Red on mobile for £4.99 (they would make millions off this and anybody with any common sense would know), and via virtual console on their own platforms for £2.50. That way they don't dilute the value of their own platforms in any way. Also they could make a rule like the game has be at least 10-15 years old before it appears on any other platform or even longer if they wanted. Sony could do the same, but a lot of their games are not old enough.
Like I said before fire Iwata save Nintendo! The company as a whole could be doing much better with someone who understands the market and isn't afraid of taking risks ;)
Lets say they opponents of Iwata won. And put games one cell phones. Why would I ever spend a couple hundred and buy a nintendo handheld if it is available on my high def cell phone, and I get new phones very often. Why would I for that matter get any nintendo machine if after putting games on cell phones, they take the next step, and decide to do the same with the consoles. No matter how you slice it if Microsoft did that they would have no incentive for me to buy a xbox one. Same with Sony why would I buy a ps4 if the games are available on pc? PS. Didn't sega get forced into putting games on other machines and there quality to a big drop! Especially the first 3 sonic the hedgehog games....ugh PS.. I would not buy a console just for the controller. #1.7
@theyellowflash30 Oooh you feeling crunchy now? DonDon set you straight!
This is nonsense. Iwata brought big success to Nintendo. There has not been 1 console, that has not become a huge success, other than the Wii U and if you guys think for a but, instead searchiing for reasons to hate, he had 1 bad year with the Wii U and is now recovering it. Why doesnt Sony put GoW and Tlou or MS Halo and Gears on smartphones? Do you guys have any idea how stupid this sounds? There handheld is a huge success and they sell games for a good price, why should they even think about making them for something else than their own console and selling them for $3? And then you guys forget, that not 1 console, that has been the first of a generation, really took off, until its competitors came by. Now it has not even been a year after the competitors came and nintendo is recovering. Nintendo has a solid list of AAA titles, that are coming soon. You guys really have no idea what you are talking about. Iwata makes that nintendo stays relevant, but of course, that is what most haters secretly want, not that nintendo improves in their situation, they want them to fail hard, so they can play Zelda on their console... Always hating on nintendo, but begging for their games to come to your console. How dumb is that?
lol Looks like you didn't read what I said. I never said Iwata was the best choice when I linked you the NeoGAF post. I said he wasn't as bad as you say he is and I still believe that. He's a heck of a lot better than any of the board members who want Nintendo to go mobile, that's for sure. An outcome like that would be terrible for everyone IMO. I would like Iwata to work closely with one of Nintendo's aspiring developers and help prep them and pass the torch. That way we can not only have new ideas, but Iwata can help guide that new blood into keeping Nintendo on a healthy path away from bad trends. I don't know much about Kimichima other than that his old position was replaced by Reggie so I can't say if he'd be a good choice. I still want to see Sakurai take the helm. He's clearly a leader with a smart head on his shoulders and he knows how to make games.
The thing with this source is they want him gone for that precise reason, because he wont put games on smartphones. If this is real, it is cause for concern even for Iwata detractors.
The post also says that they are frustrated at Iwata for not embracing the net so clearly Iwata is not imperfect, but I agree that if mobile games is the biggest reason then fans should be very concerned about them even more than Iwata. Despite whatever mistakes he makes he also does some good like how he treats the developers very well for the sake of company morale. Firing him could remove that benefit for the devs and the games can suffer as a result. I would rather not risk that when I've just gotten back into Nintendo games. Since Iwata can't be president forever I would hope that the next one takes his moral code and treats game developers with the most respect and importance.
I wish the translation could be confirmed before publishing it I would be very unhappy to see Old Nintendo games go to smartphones when we can t even get them on the e shop - Iwata should take heat for not having most of Nintendo s library up on the e shop - it would bring in revenue and even sell systems Nintendo has executed poorly under Iwata and they need to operate much better or thier situation will continue to get worse
I agree with Dunban67. Nintendo so far has done very poorly on the online dept, especially the eshop. Missing titles, not offering much select or picking wrong platform. I want see VC games, especially old SNES games go on the 3DS, not just on the WiiU. Nintendo's eshop is a far cry from Xbox or Playstation online stores. Of course I am not advocating Nintendo games on Smartphones. But their online policies are archaic at best compared to what Microsoft or Sony has. Especially when it comes to online purchases Should be tied to the account, not the machine. PERIOD. Also at this point, get rid of Region locking. Iwata has had his time, he was there for Nintendo during the time they needed him. But times have changed, the games market has too. For Nintendo to continue, it needs new leadership with new ways to lead the company...
@Dboy It is very strange why the VC is so barren. The Wii had NES, SNES, Genesis and N64 games at launch. Tbh that was a selling point of the original Wii to me (not a big Wii fan). I could play C64, Neo Geo, Turbo Grafx, etc. without owning the system.
@Concertoine I'm sure I've read somewhere recently that Sega are dragging their heels/don't want to put their old games on the Wii U eshop, which to me is just daft. Being able to play all my classic games from yesteryear without having to go into the Wii menu AND being able to use the gamepad is just too good of a prospect. The idea that Nintendo should put their games on smartphones though does not seem appealing at all and it doesn't seem like a good business move either, after all what reason would people have to buy Nintendos handheld consoles if the games are available on mobile devices? I'm pretty certain it's just one or two of the board members who keep bringing this up at Nintendo in the vain hope that someone will eventually agree with them, so I don't think it's something we need to worry about.
Iwata is a better choice than the people who want him replaced would likely pick out, Don. Shareholders would try to force their hand into the selection process to get someone who WOULD force Nintendo into mobil/third party development to take Iwata's seat, and you know that it would ruin the company. If we're going to get a replacement for Iwata, it should be after Miyamoto-san has trained them in the ideals that have kept Nintendo from becoming a clone of their competitors. They can return to being competitive, but not by replacing Iwata with a phone lover. That's the plain truth of it.
nintendo need to stop experimenting and just make good games. nintendo need to stop trying to re-invent gaming and get back to doing what it does best-making classic games. they have WASTED the last ten years trying to reinvent the wheel. time to go back to basics, time to give us what we are crying out for- great games. nintendo went from a classic making machine to a hit and miss willy wonka style gimmick factory.
"they have WASTED the last ten years trying to reinvent the wheel. " Maybe that's what made their games so good?
@ChickeyCantor yes, nintendo have always been innovators, but they have lost their way now. i dont think anyone would mind them experimenting if it was just small projects, while they kept giving us the stone cold classics we are used to getting from them. instead they are doing it backwards, seemingly devoting the majority of the companies resources to producing and force-feeding us these stupid experimental games, while the proper games are in short supply and few and far between. its just not working. its a disaster.
No, they shouldn't stop experimenting. If no one do it, the only thing we'll be getting in the next consoles is better graphics, because Sony and Microsoft don't like to take risks. And if that happens, it's the same as upgrading a PC every few years.
Developer's shouldn't innovate for the sake of innovating. The PS4 was probably the LEAST innovative console of this generation and it's the biggest seller. It's selling because the competition innovated too much. It's a console, and a controller. No emphasis on a camera, motion control or tablet controller. I don't even want a PS4 and I can see that their lack of innovation is what's selling. Nintendo and M$ went too far with innovation. The tablet controller is great but not only is it unnecessary. It doesn't have games that utilize it to it's full potential. The kinect. Yeah, I never liked the kinect. Still not as functional as consumer's would like and I just don't like the idea of it.
Not only Iwata but also our current pizzaboy at NoA Reggie. Never liked him and I really don't see what good hes done. If anyone would want to enlighten me on what he has done I'll shut my mouth but I always kinda put him and Iwata together in ruining Nintendo.
He was one of the main reasons the Super Smash Bros. Invitational took place at this year's E3. *Drops mic.
The guy is basically the corporate face of Nintendo, even more so than Iwata. If the japanese weren't so stringent about their cultural integrity then I would call for Reggie to be the president of Nintendo; sadly, due to Japan's cultural bias, that'll never happen.
Without Reggie we wouldn't have gotten Xenoblade Chronicles in the west.
Why would I ever buy a nintendo handheld if it is available on my high def cell phone, and I get new phones very often. Why would I for that matter get an nintendo game are available if they after putting games on cell phones decide to do the same with consoles. No matter how you slice it if Microsoft did that they would have no incentive for me to buy a xbox one. Same with Sony why would I buy a ps4 if the games are available on a pc? PS I would not do it just for the controller.
can you play pokemon red on your 3ds? honest question .
@indyman77 Well you can't just put any game on a cellphone, because I don't care how cool your phone is, touchscreen will never be as good as a controller. I mean have you ever played mario on a touchscreen? so the games that you would play on cellphones are stuff that doesn't require a lot of quick movements, or quick buttons. which leaves what...pokemon? that's about it lol
Oh yeah? You party with the chair members? Go to their company BBq's? Attend birthday parties? Sit in on the meetings? Stfu your full of shit.
Did you even read the article or just respond to the headline like most people do? The reason they won't him out is because he won't put games on smart phones, not for anything you or most of these other posters are trying to bash him for.
Thank you! Your comment was spot on, I'm still confused on why Nintendo did not have their entire Virtual Console on the Wii U store from day one. I love my Wii U, but there needs to be a few franchises brought back. And at this point in its life I feel there should have been a few more key franchise either announced or already out like Viewtiful Joe or another Metroid. Something else than what we currently have. But I am starting to get excited, I feel Nintendo is turning a corner. I personally don't want Nintendo to change into a PS4 or Xbox One. I already own a PS4, I am still wanting that Nintendo innovation and variety they offer. I just would like bigger named franchise. They don't even have to be a full scale game. They could be a small arcade title for $15.
Nin definitely needs someone who's not afraid to put Nin brand games on the cellphones in a proper fashion, ands I'm all for getting rid of the puppet known as Iwata but to replace him with someone from the board? That doesn't sound any better either. This is the gaming company that had investors ask why they, Nin - a game maker, talks about videogames and stuff all the time instead of how they'll be making them money. Last thing we need is a clueless person running the company.
Bye bye Iwata, you won't be missed.
If he's gone Nintendo's going mobile which will suck. So right now I'd rather have Iwata than anyone else. If they can find a better president that also wants to stick to consoles then I'm all for it.
Just my personal opinion (and I love Nintendo). I think it just needs to be done and get it over with. I don't want Nintendo to go mobile, f*** that. But this dude will continue to drag the company down (let me rephrase that. They are not going to move forward/up). They just refuse to evolve at this point and just think that if they continue doing their own thing, s*** will just work itself out. You can disagree all you want, but the games would be better if they would just think outside the box, and just get with the program on certain issues. Their entire online infrastructure is a big example of what I'm getting at. Its why Splatoon won't reach its full potential, and that game looks like it has a lot going for it.
He's overseen 2 successful systems and pulled the Wiiu out of its slump plus he just got voted back to his position. He's not going anywhere and if there was a scheme to get rid of him he wouldn't have been voted back.
Sucessful to children and casuals. Not to most hardcore fans. Personally I feel like he has failed to hardcore gamers. Only Nintendo wing nuts like him no matter what he does. I really am tired of what he has done to Nintendo.
Adam Sessler said it best: http://m.youtube.com/watch?...
Success is still success and these so called "hardcore" who only play call of duty and want extreme and brutal violence says its not successful. Fact is the GameCube was great and the Wii and a lot of "hardcore" games. The cod kiddies can't accept the fact that just because something isn't photorealistic and choose yo be more artsy doesn't mean it only for kids. Do I not like something they've done? Of course. I never had a Wii because I didn't like the idea of motion control but still the Wii was a success and the wiiu is one too and a great system. No company is perfect but Nintendo always shows they can take a beating and still bounce back.
When did nintendo ever cater to "hardcore" gamers? Yeah back in the old president's days they made hardcore games like donkeykong jr and pokemon. (sarcasim)
"Sucessful to children and casuals. Not to most hardcore fans." And how do you think the PS2 managed to sell over 155 mil units? Casuals and children.
@epicgrinds don't underestimate old games. If you know nothing about them, don't talk about them. If hardcore for you means shooting, killing, graphics then, well, it's not even worth talking. But if you mean difficult (*hard(core)*) games, then the past is full of them. Including Nintendo's games.
JCNBA, you hit the nail on the head.
Ofcourse Hardcore gamers are only gamers that are playing Call of Duty, Moba games and only ZELDA if it has super Bro Gears of War like looks. The same people that attacked WindWaker and Skyward sword for their art style (Even though they are like a Ghibli Animation and the latter like an Impressionist painting come alive). But that is all KIDDY... and you can't be seen with that ofcourse or it will question your sexuality. And casual just means you have LESS TIME to play something, it doesn't mean you are not good at playing a game. But hey have fun in shouting "GET AWAY FROM ME YOU FILFTHY CASUAL!". As you'll ruin gaming with it and turn more and more people away from your consoles and PC's and towards mobile platforms. Games have been about having fun ever since gaming as a hobby was introduced centuries ago. No that is not Electronic gaming, that is just the latest incarnation. Stop trying to hog everything for yourself. @Summons: Gears of War is hardly photorealistic. But they do want Zelda games to have such a Beefcake Link with voice acting and other crap.
lol the wiiu never left a flump, it went from a poorly selling console to a poorly selling console, summon your whats wrong with nintendo, your just as delusional as iwata, when wiiu's average weekly sale is only 30k, thats BAD, when it can only depend on solely its exclusives, thats BAD. the ps4 weekly sales are over 90K, thats GOOD, there are numerous 3rd party devs and publishers that support the ps4, that too is GOOD,
It went from poorly selling with great games to selling well with a ton of great games and more on the horizon. Sales jumped up 600% with MK8 and hasn't dropped much since.
@summons, the 600% figure was only for the UK and during the launch of MK8. I don't doubt the Wii U is selling better now, but it's definitely not selling 600% better on average
'Evergreen' games aren't there either.
@epicgrinds Definitely sarcasm! Final Fantasy was only on the SNES back in the day. The N64 had Goldeneye 007, Perfect Dark,Turok, 1080 Degrees Snowboarding, Wave Race 64, Excitebike 64, Blast Corps, Killer Instinct series, Star Fox, Wrestlemania 2000, Road Rash 64(fighting/racing game, Conker's Bad Fur Day. Not to mention the N64 had better graphics and played better on the N64 than it did on PS1. Southpark, Resident 2, WWF Attitude, Command & Conquer, Duke Nukem 64 were hardcore games to be had on the N64 instead of PS1.
I can understand why some investors want to get rid of Iwata. But Nintendo producing games for smartphones? Really? That I dont think will ever happen unless Nintendo releases their own smartphone.
Hopefully it has buttons if that happens. Putting Mario on buttonless phones is a terrible idea.
You just gave Nintendo a great idea. Coming in November 2014 the Nintendo Galaxy M. Lol Samsung might sue them tho.
it a rumor
One that I hope is true.
You want Nintendo to go smartphone?
We just want Nintemdo to do better that's all ;)
@ Tekoli: Hell no, not the smart phone crap. But yes to Iwata leaving. If Nintendo made their own phone then maybe (if it has buttons). But just because Iwata does not want phone games either doesn't mean he's the only one at Nintendo who stands firmly against mobile games. Genyo Takeda also stood firmly against mobile gaming for Nintendo too. Iwata isn't needed in order to prevent Nintendo from being on other systems.
They shouild have BEEN gotten rid of this guy. Reggie needs to take the big AXE, also...*smh* Look, Nintendo has an INCREDIBLY loyal fanbase, great. But even Ninty can't keep spamming the same Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Kirby BS to gamers. It just seems...*kiddy*, to me. I don't hate Nintendo, just that...with their style of gaming (which I like the fact that they don't try to compete with MS/SONY), they could do a HALO-style game with their own unique flair of graphics/personality. They could do their own Uncharted-style game, or a Streets of Rage-style game...all with Nintendo's *thing* added to them. They need leadership that's willing to think OUTSIDE of the Mario-box... :-/ By the way, that reminds me...where is 2014 remake of Blades of Steel? Pro Wrestling? Double Dribble? Bad News Baseball? Shadow of the Ninja? Weaponlord? Jackie Chan's Action KungFu? What have you been doing this whole time, Iwata/Reggie? You've been sitting your fat @$$es down somewhere, eating Kriby burgers, Link sausages, and Samus tacos...*smh*
You know that if they get rid of Iwata, you're basically gonna get Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Kirby BS on smartphones.... At least Iwata is trying some new things with Splatoon, Bayo2 and Devil's Third.
If Iwata were to be replaced', we do not know at all that his replacement would put Nintendo games on I pads- Everyone is acting as if it is automatic that the next guy would go mobile - that is simply not a guarantee - Many companies are finding out that mobile is not easy money
@ Dunban Apparently not enough of them are finding that out, because we've still got idiotic shareholders pounding on Iwata's metaphorical door, demanding that he go into mobile gaming with older titles, without realizing that Nintendo's older titles would quickly become buried and unprofitable by all of the shovelware that comes out on mobiles every single day. Not to mention control issues. Just face facts; firing Iwata is a bigger, and much more unnecessary, risk than keeping Iwata around until someone more appropriate can be found to be trained by the higher-ups for Iwata's eventual retirement.
It's because Nintendo diehards won't buy it, they only buy the mario/Zelda/Kirby crap. They rebooted punch out and exitebike yet Nintendo fans did not favor to them like the others. A Nintendo flavored halo would be epic. Also these games didn't have the same level of excitement as the originals
This sounds like total bullshit. Iwata was just re-elected by the board of directors in June with a 3% increase in his performance rating. If the board of directors didn't want him, then they wouldn't have re-elected him let alone allow him to be promoted to the new CEO of Nintendo of America as of last year. The board of directors includes older members has Shigeru Miyamoto, Genyo Takeda and Tatsuki Kimishima. The former two are well known for embracing former President Yamauchi's company philosophy to differentiate itself from competitors. They feel the industry's obsession with hardware power leads to diminishing returns. By the way, 4 of the older directors retired and were replaced by younger members last year. Nintendo only occasionally publishes and/or develops mature IPs out of the acknowledgment that there is an audience for it within their customer base. Of course, their bread and butter is based on unadulterated franchises.
Right, creating systems that no one wants, and then the game devs at Ninty pulling a miracle and somehow getting people to want it again, like with 3ds and Nintendo Wii-U. Wouldn't the more impressive thing be to not drive the bus into the ditch in the first place? Just because he can call triple-A to tow them out of another disaster doesn't make him a good CEO. He seems like a nice enough guy, and I don't want him to be humiliated or anything, but goodness.
Games like Uncharted embody everything Nintendo does not like about the direction the industry is going in. It has concerns over diminishing returns and prioritizes gameplay, controls and level design over graphical fidelity, storytelling, cinematics and production values. Nintendo already has a shooter, it';s called Splatoon. It's an unconventional shooting title that defies genre tropes and even the target demographic shooters are made for. That is just the way Nintendo rolls. That's what they want to do. We'll have to just wait and see if they made the right call on it.
I gotta give it to Nintendo fans, I think they may have XBoxers beat as far as blind fandom. Wow, anyone who doesn't understand why people want Iwata out is on some koolaid forreal.
What do you mean? Just yesterday a bunch of the fans on N4G were disappointed about Hyrule Warriors having no online for the co-op mode. One person even went from being okay to not being okay with it. I'm not sure if I actually count as a Nintendo fan since Sony's my first choice, but I can say that I get why you and the other guys want to see Iwata replaced but I don't agree with it. Iwata does crappy stuff but I think he also offers some good stuff too. Let's be honest the Wii U's launch was totally botched by Iwata. But this year's Nintendo E3 conference was pretty awesome and that was Iwata too. If we're objective then we can point out how Iwata has good points and bad points too. Insulting the fans is not a good argument IMO. edit Those apologies were from last year and E3 was this year. Wii U is also selling a little better too and actually outsold Xbox One a couple of weeks. I'm confused by one thing in your comment though. Why would Iwata lie about not attending the biggest video game convention of the year? Doesn't seem like there is very much to gain. He was still a part of the video presentation where he beat up Reggie to show off Smash and Amiibo.
Look up everything Iwata has said over the past year, it's all either apologies, rationalization, or godawful ideas. Also, if he was really sick, fine, but I have my doubts about him getting sick before e3. I think they just don't want him opening his mouth publicly until Nintendo gets off life support. @SpiralTear - I don't think the cellphone idea is good either. I think it's possible for there to be a good CEO that doesn't agree with that, or Iwata's "Please don't make us compete with our competitors!! I'm scaarrred" tactics. Also, long before cellphones were desperately brought up, people were calling for his resignation for WiiU's horrible performance until then
Yep, they turn a blind eye when the man does mistakes so they shrug it off. Also any sort of criticism towards Nintendo is automatically seen as hatred or trolling in their eyes. ;)