The Playstation Now open beta started yesterday. A weird concept, because you have to pay to use it. So it’s less of a beta and more of a product you can buy that the company makes absolutely no assurances will work — Steam early access, anyone?
Fix it sony, fix it! Ò_Ó
Why can't they just dump this idea and focus on further improving PS+ instead? This whole thing feels like one huge over-priced-rental-based fiasco that Sony shouldn't have ever invested in. It's like some convoluted off-shoot of Gamefly and Blockbuster...
Because it is ideal way of doing what has been done in the mobile/tablet space. That market has low cost devices which are becoming increasingly more popular (especially with younger families). Gaming has the issue of if you buy something cheap it generally will look it. PS Now offer a possibly cheap way of attracting people to gaming as no device will be necessary except for your TV, current media device.... Remeber this is still early days and Sony has already expressed interest in brining it to Tvs... The big problem is the price (which is why I said possibly cheap). From what has been said publishers have control over the prices. What Sony needs to do is get that control back and implement a subscription based service. Otherwise the whole venture is pointless
Its not completely broken. The week option is actually cheaper than RedBox.
@superman & eonjay, So if PS now depends on the amount of contents it can provide, getting a subscription of let say $10/month (including about 100s of developers and Sony included), do you think they can make a profit? I haven't include in the cost for the virtual spaces, maintaining the contents, and the actual amount of developers (in the thousands as Sony claimed) yet. Do you think it is a viable option for everyone? Let take Netflix for example: They have to increase the fee to around $9/month and spend billion to create their own contents and you still get mostly old movies/shows? What are the reason for that?
@Baodeus And Netflix makes billions from Netflix (it is a powerful company). So I don't see your point. Sony makes its own content as well. Some of the content is old and some makes yo want to buy the fo) owing seasons why it works. So yearly releases could work in Now's favour. Remember this services isn't really for you nor I. It is for those, possibly, young families who don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a system their children might not even play That much. They could easily have a TV, laptop, ipad/tablet that works with PlayStation Now. Using what they have got to get them into gamimg. Also they have to pay if they are not using it (especially if Sony gets subscriptions in order)
I don't understand why Sony hasn't put at least one of their games up to play for free. This is something new, let us give it a try before you charge us. It wouldn't cost them anything to put Uncharted 1 up for a free test and it just might make people believers in game streaming. As it stands now it is just that expensive service we've never tried and probably won't ever if the pricing stands.
my guess is because they don't want a flood of people rushing in to try it, bringing the system to its knees
That kind of defeats the purpose of a beta then. What happens when they release new games and everyone wants to play that new game on the service? This is why Destiny was a proper beta. Telling everyone and their grandma to get on for two hours on one specific day. It destroyed the servers, but they learned what is needed for launch.
It isn't like they'll be offering free play time through the service, so they don't have to plan for that kind of capacity. If they have rushes when new games are made available, then the solution is to price accordingly- to keep the demand to levels where you don't ruin the gamers experience. I think that's why pricing hasn't been fully worked through. They need to find a pricing point where the servers don't go too idle or too over utilized.
Agreed. Even a 4 hour trial is fine. I just want to make sure things work well at the house before paying for it.
Or, all be it a little more sneaky, I can see them offering the first month or two free when you sign up (similar to what they did with music unlimited)
They have. Many of them in the beta were free. Now, any games you bought on PS3 are free to stream.
That doesn't help the people that moved from 360 to PS4. We don't have any games purchased. Let us try it for free!!!!!
It does help them though. The first part of my comment explained that.
I can't stream the ps now games that i already owned on ps3 for free. Are you 100% sure? Is it because i'm now on ps4's public beta and it can't recognize my ps3 digital library?
Yes, they know. Just keep tweeting them to let them know how you feel. Can't wait for the subscription details.
Speculation from review: Whine, Complain but then states "Because this is a “beta,” we don’t assume that any of these price points are permanent" Fact from Sony Email: These PRICES are ultimately decided on by the PARTICIPATING DEVELOPERS and PUBLISHERS. Your FEEDBACK during this next phase of the Beta is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, as we will be monitoring it closely. Solution: Email us at [email protected] om and help SHAPE the future of PLAYSTATION NOW. *** I apologize for the caps but those are the important points that keep being overlooked***
If Sony cannot contain publishers greed and own expectations from a service for their own idea and agenda for a product platform then that's THEIR problem to deal with, not yours, mine or anyone else's. The consumer shouldn't have to say that these prices aren't feasible for the long term, they have the guys in suits to work that one out. The official PS forums AND large sites like IGN and even N4G spoke volumes about the pricing structure even before it was open to the general public and they did dick all about it then either. Sony know the solution but its whether or not they can achieve that solution is another thing.
Actually they DO need customer feedback. These "suits" have been rich a long time and don't feel the squeeze of economic inflation like we do. So they think we are made of money. They have no clue what it's like to still be poor/middle class. We have to tell them. And if they don't listen, we vote with our dollars. THEN the suits will have their own economic crisis to deal with.
There is no concrete one says all. Sony and any given publisher have a relationship. This is a collaboration where sacrifices and accommodations are made for one another, or no one benefits. They work with another and compromise is paramount. The idea that a publisher will tell SONY to go to hell and they're not wavering from their price standpoint, is wrong. If SONY nudges for reduction in price due to backlash, it is listened to. Let alone the fact that SONY themselves publish numerous titles within the service.
The price model will change. Why? Because nobody is gonna rent MGS4 for 30 days for $5.99 when they can buy it for $5 The pricing is horrendous and it will be a massive failure if they decide not to listen to practically everyone that looks at it. Sony can't be that stupid to proceed with PSNow in an era where unlimited access on a subscription model is how digital content works (see massive success of Netflix)
Why can't we just pay to have the game permanently? Why do we have to rent it? Seems stupid to pay a large fee just to rent a game that we might want to hold onto and not rush. I would prefer a PS2 / PS3 emulation service.
Because it is physically impossible. PS4 is not backward compatible. That's the main reason. As a result, you can stream the game, not play it off of your PS4. A download is useless if you cannot play the game.
What I mean is - why can't we stream a game permanently so it's like we own it? The rental scheme sounds so over priced.
IMO, that was one of the design flaws with the current-gen systems, the PS4 and XBone. No backwards compatibility is a negative in my book, as a gamer who cares more about his collection than about all the social media bells and whistles that they tossed in instead. Yeah, it would make the system cost a bit more, but I love my games. My collection is worth that extra cost. I want a newer system that will last longer to continue playing my games on, instead of having to keep two or more generations of console nearby and constantly swapping cords around just to access my full library of physical games. I'm also not fond of multiplayer being tied to PS+, but that's a separate gripe...
Shame on Sony for this - ms gaining ground day by day
THey need this tech to work because they don't want to make another console. They believe this tech is the future of Gaming . THe ridiculous pricing models are there because they want to to soon release PS4 games this way also. Its the death of the game shop and SOny will control the entire eco system .
You mean they'll try. I doubt Sony will ever influence Nintendo to do the same, though I don't know if Microsoft would avoid it after what they tried to do with the XBone initially being so bad...
Drop the low end and the high end and this seems really good. The 4 hour price is ridiculous, and the 90 day price is ridiculous, but everything in between seems pretty good.
pretty whack prices not interested at all in PS now if prices stay the same PS now will fail but they said subscription is coming so that is good
Seriously, people is making this a bigger issue than what it is. The only price that's not reasonable in the service is the 4hr rentals. Other than that it's all good. They have some games that cost the same as their 90-day rental price but Sony is kind enough to put the price of the games and rentals all in the same screen for you to conpare or decide wether you want to buy it or rent it, up to each individual.
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