VideoGamer: "As The Last Of Us: Remastered arrives on PS4, people have started discussing whether Naughty Dog's masterpiece deserves the praise thrust upon it. VideoGamer.com looks at both sides. Warning: Spoilers."
Opinions vary but IMO yes. The game overall is a masterpiece.
Not the best because there's not "the best of all", but it is sure one of the best ever made. It's in my top 5
I agree, there can't be just one above everything else just like you can't call Return of the King "the best movie ever made" even though it's many people's favourite... opinions.. opinions..
People disagreeing, could you explain to me, how do you rate "the best game ever"? We can have the worlds fastest man in the Guinness World Records since it's measurable but we can't have "the best game in the world" because it's based too much on opinions...
Best game of last gen.. not ever but of last gen definitely
If we would name the best game of all time wouldnt it made sense to base our 'rating' when derived from traditional categories we know and trust to review games ? Graphics, Story, Gameplay, Fun Factor, Replayability, Production Values. Remember these ratings would represent what was possible at the time the game released! In the case of the TLoU, it would go like this for me >> 10+10+9+9+8+10 for an average of 9.3/10. Too put this in perspective my other best game of all time would be FF7 > 10,10,8 (the grinding was too much),9,9,10 for an average of 9.3/10 But I would give the edge to FF because it was a 30-40hr experience (minus the grinding)! Well thats my 2 cents! How would you rate TLoU? PS: I dint even think about it before I wrote this I just gave the marks as I was writing!
Is it the best game ever made? Since the answer is really just based on opinion it's hard to say it is. Is it the best overall reviewed game? Yes. Has it won the most awards? Yes. If you take a step back and look at the overall reaction to the game. I would say it is considered the best game ever made by most people.
See this is my point.. we all have different opinions on the graphics, gameplay, story etc. I for instance didn't enjoy the gameplay too much even though the story was amazing.. The whole "best game ever" turns instantly invalid when people can have different views. The ratings that games receive are also based on opinions and while they do have truth behind them, how do you really compare for example graphics between TLOU and lets say Journey? There is so much variety in games and peoples opinions that there simply cannot be "the best one" that everyone agrees with..
Depends on your taste really. It isn't in my top 5 overall, but I can see why people regard it as such.
I would say that TLOU is one of the best games ever made as opposed to the absolute best. However, no game comes close to telling a story as well as it did in terms of emotional attachment, character development, pacing, and mood. That's where it is second to none.
Absolutely one of the best games ever made nobody can say otherwise if they are a gamer instead of a fanboy. Best game ever made is different for everyone. Some people like fighting games more than anything else and to them streetfighter is the best game ever made.
I would probably go with Half-Life 2, but nevertheless TLOU is in the top 10 for me.
One of the best, wouldn't say best. I still love SOTC and ICO
No, it is not the best ever made. It is a good game though.
no, not even in the discussion for best game ever. i LOVED playing The Last of Us, but its main selling point was saying, "look, Hollywood, we can copy you in video game form!" i mean, it's cool to see cinematic games like that, especially when they're so well done, but the game did nothing to push gaming forward. the combat was nothing new, the gameplay in general was nothing new. was it bad gameplay? hell no. but it did nothing to push gaming forward. it was basically just, "let's pretend like we're a movie but we're not really a movie." guess what? movies, theatre, books, comics, etc can all have amazing characters, emotional moments, etc. this is nothing new. just because gaming finally joined the party doesn't mean this is all-time great. one of the guys in the article nailed it perfectly: "Whenever I talk about The Last of Us with friends, I notice a common theme: when people discuss their favourite, or standout moments, very few are actually tied to gameplay." to me, as awesome as The Last of Us was (and it really was a gem, no question), it did very little, if anything, to evolve gaming.
I dont know if The Last of Us is the best game ever made (that all depends on who youre asking), but no one can deny, it is definitely one of the best games of the last several years.
It may be my favorite game of last gen, but I don't think it is the best game ever made.
My vote for best game of last gen would be Oblivion. I could play that game over and over again.
Oh come on... give me a break. It is a great game, for sure, one of the best of last generation, yes, but the best of all time? You guys call yourself gamers, seems like you guys didnt play a lot of games then. I understand the hype around Sony, but this goes to far, to be honest.
TLOU is a very good game... but way overhyped by the gaming media and fanboys. Well, that's my opinion, and it's the one that counts.
TLOU is a very good game... but way underhyped by sites like polygon and hating fanboys, many of which never played it. Well, that's my opinion, and it's the one that counts.....smh
Look at titanfall for the definition of overhype. OT: I do think that the last of us as one of the best games not the best game.
Yes all those awards are clearly the result of a a vast gaming media conspiracy. smh OT - TLoU definitely deserves to be in the conversation but my personal Game of the Generation was Demon's Souls so TLoU can't be my Game of All Time.
I really enjoyed the Last of us, I thought it was an amazing game. But the entire time playing it I couldn't shake the thought of how everyone says its the best game ever and "its more than a game, its an experience" and when you playing with those expectations you cant help but point out flaws. In the end I love it but I do think hype made me overly critical, and enjoy the experience less
"Yes all those awards are clearly the result of a a vast gaming media conspiracy. " Yeah well Titanfall's award at E3 were a conspiracy according to some -_-' But yeah, its silly. TLOU deserves its high scores in my opinion. A rare gem of an experience in terms of story telling and emotion in video games.
If you think it's fanboys that is hyping it, you're in for a world of hurt when reality sets in. It's being hyped by everyone including Xbox fans(which is a big reason why a lot of them switched to PS4 as well).
I understand the hype part. Not the media though. Friends kept telling me how awesome a game this was and their favorite game ever, I think that definitely ruined the experience for me. Now to clarify, I absolutely enjoyed this game and is deserving of it's awards and whatnot, just stating why it may not be one of my favorite games of all time. That would be a hard list to make regardless.
Yeah opinions vary and it's also based on preference. I'd never refer to "The Last of Us" as a Masterpiece in my mind though...And that's where are opinions vary heavily. It's a top 10 game for me... But it looks like the remastered edition fixed the Enemy AI detection bugs...But still couldn't fix the major issues with Companion AI. Things like predictable story(All inspiration was from Popular films) and cliche plot coupled with the Companion AI being atrociously bad...Hold this game back for me. And that wouldn't even bother me because I'm a fairly easy guy to please, it's just the BS Fanboy and Media hype that makes you ask "WTF drugs were you on when you played it?" TLOU is easily a 8.5/10 or even 9/10 for me. Since I'll be called a "Fanboy" my current most anticipated game is Quantum Break and yes I played TLOU Remastered and TLOU regular in multiple playthroughs so far. Everyone has an opinion.
"my current most anticipated game is Quantum Break" …and that's relevant to this article… how…? The way that sentence started it would have made sense if your most anticipated game was a PS4 title, but as it is the whole sentence was pointless. I agree about the companion AI, but I think it's really tough to find stories and plots that are very original.
Every thing you said was spot-on.
@Opie I agree with the companion AI, but you didn't have to bring in Quantum Break... Since we now very little about that game. Ontopic: The Last Of Us is a precious beautiful gem, a game wich we see once a generation.
I brought up Quantum break because I know people would call me a fanboy and I'm more neutral...And of all the things that's what people are pointing out? My most anticipated game is a Action Cinematic Story Driven game...So I like the style of genre that Naughty Dog does but the execution isn't the best. And I've read enough interviews and asked Remedy enough questions of my own to be VERY excited for Quantum Break... Doesn't matter what the public knows, it's about the track record and what specific info is given. @Mystic My most anticipated PS4 titles are Uncharted 4/No Mans Sky...Quantum Break has me way more pumped though...Simply stating that I own all platforms and shouldn't be called a fanboy. I don't think it's that tough to find an original idea. The Last of Us and Uncharted have very predictable plots... They just need better Writers, the writing in Naughty Dogs games is sub par at best. @Mr-Dude I always got to bring up my most anticipated game because N4Gs hype meters are so out of wack...The hype is in the wrong corner...Course I don't want people to hype up Quantum Break stupid amounts because that's what killed Watch Dogs/Titanfall for a lot of people and will kill Destiny.
TLOU is the best game ever created since Half-Life
I think it is the best in all the categories it applies in. Best stealth game (I LOVE MGS games but TLOU gives me a sense of accomplishment when I use stealth in the harder difficulties). Best storytelling/pacing Best Multiplayer Best graphics (for now, on both ps3 and ps4) great level design/use of terrain for battle etc. So it would be my favorite action/stealth AAA game. Best of... Stealth: TLOU Story: TLOU Multiplayer: TLOU Other games that are the best games ever (in own category): -Dark/Demons souls (rogue action) -Catherine (puzzle; original storytelling) -Persona 4 (best jrpg) -Dragon Age Origins (wrpg) -Metal Gear Online 2 (multiplayer from MGS 4--now defunct) -Super Smash Bros Brawl (fighting) -The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask (Roguelike adventure/rpg) -Castlevania SOTN (metroidvania genre) -Monster Hunter (best co-op) -Super Mario Galaxy (3d platforming) -Donkey Kong (where you used mario on old gameboy) (best 2d platforming) etc. These are what I call the best games (in my opinion). Many of which are on par with TLOU but are completely different genres. TLOU is the best at what it does do. Others are best at their own genre instead.
Dude I love The Last of US and all but the best multiplayer of all time???? TLOU's multiplayer was a pleasant surprise that it wasn't a useless cash in and instead maintained the spirit of campaigns' Joel vs. Hunter portions. Its a surprisingly deep, fun, and tactical multiplayer but it's no where near one of the best multiplayers ever.
Best multiplayer? You are off your tits on cocaine! Halo? COD? Dark/Demon Souls? Best stealth? MGS is miles better and so was Splinter cell, even go as far as to say Deus Ex, Dishonoured and Hitman had better just off the top of my head. Best story? No. Probably the best acting I've seen brought to mo-cap and pacing of a story but it's not like it was actually a better story than say KOTOR or Mass Effect for example. I think what makes a game great is a good blend of most categories but there's not a single game made that comes first in all of them, probably not even the majority.
I'll agree with you to an extent on MP. The multiplayer is way better than COD, Battlefield, Titanfall, or any other next gen game. It really feels like Socom II but with a different twist and wrapper. I'd put it up there with the greats like Socom because it takes skill and tactics not like most multiplayer games now days. Plus it's unique in how they did the challenges, survivors, etc.
^^^^ The guy isn't entitled to an opinion? If he feels it's the best multiplayer that's HIS opinion, no need to attack him.
When I play a game ... I want the best gameplay n controls first. Story and graphics come afterwards. Last of Us is one of the best cinamatic games of all time but its value lies heavily on its graphics and story. If you strip those things away ... its gameplay doesnt come close to best of all time. It is very good to maybe even great gameplay ... but nothing legendary or best of all time standards. I personally value gameplay too much to consider Last of Us as high as you do even if it is a great experience overall.
In terms of gameplay, it's pretty generic a basic. Games which innovate, such a portal hold far more interest tome personally. Graphics become outdated quickly. Gameplay lasts forever.
This is one of the best games out there, Yes. The best game ever? No. BUT of course opinions vary.
Who the hell is disagreeing with you to the tune of FORTY ONE? Salty X-tears are raining down on this article it seems.
IMO No. But it is a very, very good game. And, why am I seeing people getting disagrees for complimenting the game, but saying its not the best game ever made?
It's not the best game ever made unless you feel it is. Same as any game, I don't care how many awards have been awarded to a game either, it's all opinion. If you feel it is, then it is. If it's not it's not. The same goes for films and music, it's all opinion. It's one of the best games ever made, I think everyone can agree on that.
MetalGearSolid4 was the best game ever made.
Incredible AI Incredible Gameplay Incredible Story Incredible Acting Incredibly unique in many ways One of very few games that have an extreme amount of polish. For the type of game it is, it is the very best, my opinion.
A great game? Yes. The best game ever made? Possibly. For me the first uncharted and ocarina in time will always hold a special place in my gaming heart.
any1 else point me to a game that got 10/10 across the board? ah yes uncharted 2,but thats made by naughty dog aswell :)
its in my top 5 of all time for sure
It's in my top 5 as well, but definitely not number 1. And not worth the extra money for the remastered. Waiting for the last of us 2 instead.
@psychotic: how can a game you've never played on a system you've never owned/don't own be in your top 5?
It is extremely hard to say. A lot of games were incredible at their time but now they feel dated (so it is hard to go back and compare; avoiding the Rose tinted glasses effect). Though it is up there with my favourite games of all time
Yeah I reckon it is.
It's subjective. For me it's overrated as hell, hardly would call it a masterpiece. Personally, Journey and the Metal Gear Solid series are what I'd call "the best games ever made".
MGS1 and 3 were great, 2 had its moments, 4 was just.....very odd
Journey?! The glorified walking simulation? I had it preordered (was more impressed with free dynamic wallpaper than with game) and came away unimpressed. Loved TGC's Flower game though. But Journey as best game? No way. "Brothers" was a way better game than that and alot of people who played it think so--but unfortunately not many have played it despite it being offered on ps plus for free for a brief period.
I tried Journey and just could not get into it. I feel bad about it.
MGS was not overrated? I mean if it came out today with the same hype it did as the first, you'd have everyone saying it's overrated. It seems like when everyone likes a game someone has to say it's overrated.... Overrated means it got super high reviews but the majority of people did not agree with those reviews(Example: Titanfall). When the overwhelming majority agree with the reviews, it doesn't make it overrated because not everyone will like it. lol
No but it's close.
Not even top 20 of all time. Sorry, but it's really not.
U can't really call one game the best game of all time but in my opinion it is up their with the best games of all time but definitely the best in its genre. My favorite game of last gen & i loved uncharted 2, fallout 3, & mgs4 & mario galaxy.
Yeah I agree. There will never be the best ever game as not everyone will like it its down to the gamer playing to where it stands for them not what other people say just like most things in life. Its abit like saying who is the best football player to ever play football, Or what is the best ever car made. People will have their own opinions and views. One thing we can say is it was one of the highest rating games of last gen.
I would say it is the most significant game of the last console generation ... but definitely one of my all time favorita games
It's not the best, but it's on my top 10 list of one of the best games. Personally my best game is Bioshock 1.
Is there any way to block news articles of a particular game?
It's called ignoring the articles. You should try it sometime.
I know dude. So tired of seeing the front page filled with this game. It's a port of a last gen title but we're still seeing developer commentary on it as if they just created it. I love this game and do think it's in the top 5 all time but damn....TLoU remastered is still just a port and does not deserve all of this attention.
Why not? So what if it is a port? It's game play is the best this new gen so far and even has better graphics than some of this gens games.
Best you could probably do is look under a news tab thats unrelated to Playstation.
Better than nothing I guess.. thanks.