The PlayStation Now open beta begins tomorrow for North American PS4 owners, but there's still a ton of questions surrounding the rental streaming service. For starters, whatever happened to the Netflix-like subscription plan?
Which is why they turned down EA access. My guess anyways.
watch how many EA games won't appear on PS Now as a result.. :P
PSnow only allowed you to play Sony 1st party IPs
And I won't give a damn shadow clone if it happens. Though, it's kinda expected. EA pulled out all their games from Steam remember?
You do realise EA gets paid for being on PS Now. PS Now is being pushed to a lot of devices. For a money hungry company like EA, do you really expect them to make such a bold move (considering their service is only exclusive to the One). Be realistic
I wouldn't give a damn Rinnegan about that my man, EA+MS together are like Danzo and the Second Hokage wearing suits bro, some shady stuff.
then screw EA...theres nothing in there thats says, yea gimme, except for Mirrors edge. anyways im sure they're on that List for PS NOW
@kingtroy Where did you get that information at?
PS now is previous gen while EAs thing is only next gen, there is no reason why EA wouldn't allow games on PS now because none of the games they would have on PS now are games that they would have on their thing.
To be honest, there was a large contingent in the closed Beta that brought this idea up in the forums. We said that we wanted a subscription based service and it appears that Sony was listening. It is interesting that they announce this so close on the heels of the EA announcement, but I am pretty sure it has been bandied about long before this.
It's easy to say I won't miss them. Activision and EA are the worst publishers with the worst games. Activision has one star: blizzard, same with EA: bioware, besides that they are completely crap
@kingtroy Yeah, sure. That's why we saw Final Fantasy 13-2 and Saints Row 2 in the beta. Clearly, First Party only @Neonridr Your comment made me snicker :p But EA loves money and they will allow their games on PS Now :p
If what you say is true in terms of psnow (which I agree with), why did sony site ps+ as the excuse in their statement?
1. Because EA Access isn't a streaming service, so you can't compare it it PSNow. It's more akin to PS+. 2. The article has nothing to do with EA Access. PSNow is in its beta stage, and they haven't nailed down the payment options. 3. Just because there's an article about the possibility of a subscription-based option doesn't mean that it's a reason for turning down EA. They've stated precisely why they turned down EA's service - it doesn't offer very much value to Playstation gamers.
Cause PS+ is in more line with EA access. PS now is streaming service for a entire backlog of games, unlike EA access.
truefan1, kinda ironic how you blatantly hate Sony but always end up wasting your bubble in sony related articles, its almost like...you are in defensive mode....
to the best of my knowledge, EA Access is not a streaming service. It works more like something like Adobe Creative Cloud. You pay a subscription fee and in return you can download all the software to be run locally. When the app is launching it checks the server for your account status before letting the app actually execute.
Thanks that was a good read! I agree with the writer and Sony did seem bitter about it but I would understand Sony turning them down, with starting another subscription that cost them hundreds of millions I wouldn't want to introduce a 3rd sub. Before I got mine started.. So I don't think it had to do with "value"
How you know Sony turned Dow ea? What if ea turned them down?
its in the media that sony turned down EA because they thought it wasn't a good value for the platform.
Oh.. I must of missed that, have a link?
you bet :) http://www.forbes.com/sites...
^Actually they said it doesn't bring value to customers, not the platform.
Yup. I hope Sony continues with that plan to have a subscription service
This should have been the main option from the start.
Agreed. They should have a monthly plan for full access but Sony doesn't want to confuse people with PS+ subscription models. Instead they should be offering some form of a Platinum Plus model where you get everything PS+ gives you as well as PS Now for something like $99 a year or $14.99 a month. My guess is this will be a trial period first with the rentals to see how well it does and go from there.
Working? it's easy "hay you, with the glasses, add a subscription offer to PS Now NOW" How hard could it honestly be? This EA thing, do you stream the games or do you download them?
They need to make profit. Plus take into account that deals between third-parties that have to take place too. So it's not as easy as you expect.
you've clearly never worked for a major game studio. its not that easy to do anything. also, dude, sony is a console maker, not just a small game studio. theyve got a LOT of compliance testing, etc to go through to make any small move.
I think the reason for individual rentals is it is expensive to host all these different games if no one is playing them. Say you have Game A which is hugely popular and has thousands of people playing it. That covers the cost of hosting and makes a profit. Now Game B isn't popular, it gets a handful of users playing it now and then. Those users can't cover the cost of hosting and so Game B starts to lose the service money. As the provider you can decide Game B isn't worth the cost of hosting and remove it, replacing it with Game C which proves popular and covers the cost of hosting and makes a profit. A subscription service would provide a blanket and not really give a real indication of how popular one game is over another as users can log on to any Game (A,B or C) without any incurred cost and just give them a go.
Nice example sir or mam.
They could still see how popular titles are via how many plays the titles get (player counts and also how often people come back to them) and remove them where need be. The issue with subscription services is getting people to pay and keep on paying monthly. Requires far more planning than individual prices
It is a lot more complicated than that. First how much to charge that still remains profitable while attracting people to use the service is a balancing act that you can't get wrong. Then you have the resource allocation to manage the subscription service (from paying methods to dedicated team to make sure things don't go hay wire). Then you have to market the subscription service. Considering the service does the per title option as well it would take a lot of careful planning to make sure the end user isn't confused. Lots of things to do
I would of thought Sony would of all ready realized this, I assumed it was one of the first things they would of worked on "how much money can we make, is it worth investing in" It must be my black/white way of looking at things, I think everything's easy
@Vacancy. You actually download the games, and run them locally ...
Ah thank you
You download the games with EA Access, not stream them.
Figuring out royalty distribution with an unlimited subscription and getting publishers to agree to something takes a lot of time and negotiation, I would think. It's simple when it's just "so and so pays to access said game. Said game's publisher gets a cut."
Well I'll say the same thing I say when MS talks about cloud... Put-up or shut-up, I'll believe it when I see it. Anyways it's unlikely I'll get any service based on streaming. I find the lag to make the experience unplayable, especially anything that involves fine touch ex. aiming a cursor.
With EA Access, you download the game, not stream it. I agree though, my internet doesn't like streaming. Would that change your mind?
Well, not from EA no. But if Sony offered a pay one fee and I could play a selection of downloadable games I might bite. But that's pretty much what PS+ is. I would have preferred if MS had just gotten these games for there games with gold program instead of letting EA basically exclude there games from that service while letting EA charge there own fee. EA Access doesn't benefit the gamers as much as MS loyalists want to say it does, but they're not going to say anything bad about MS so... whatever.
Yeah, I'd play something like Doki Doki Universe if it meant getting to play it cheaper, but I wouldn't use a streaming service for shooters, action games, etc.
I'm lookin foward to the subscription prices. Please don't screw this up Sony!
unlimited streaming for $10. If they cant do like netflix don't want it. gamefly was $15 a month...this has no mail/shipping. get with it sony or continue to die a slow death. any more than $10 a month is a rip and they deserve to close their doors. They spent $360 million on gaikai,...lets see how serious they are. Judging by their current digital prices they still got their headz up their asses. I also hope there is less lag on psnow than there is on psn multiplayer. lol. bring on the disagrees and the butthurt comments.
My suggestion is to not rent any games and let's force sony to do a monthly or yearly subscription service
Sony dont even waste your time from the comments from your PS4 owners they dont want another subscription on top of PS+. Atleast thats all they were saying since the EA Access reveal. Damn i forgot everything Sony does it great and cant be wrong.. Now i wait for the hypocritical comments from PS4 owners.
With one bubble all you can do is wait lol...at least til the next article
They dont want another subscription like Playstation plus. Which is a better value...has all the same benefits and offers a wider variety of games across multiple platforms and publishers. No really hypocritical... Especially since PSNOW is a netflix like streaming service. While EA access is just like PSplus.
I would prefer not to have any subscription. You just pay for a game you want and thats that - no rental. When I first heard of Gaikai I knew it would be streaming but I thought we would just pay a reasonable price for a PS2, PS3 game to have it permanently. Rental sucks.
I'm pretty sure Gamestop and Amazon already offer that service...
To play a PS2 or PS3 game on your PS4 permanently?
Better Becuase the prices are terrible. But me personally I won't pay for another subscription on top of PS+.
Just make it like Netflix. What about $15 bucks per month or $10 for Plus members.
Duh. This is why the EA thing is dumb to me. EA feels their games are worth 30 dollars alone and are probably being a hassle to get licensing for PS Now. Sony wants to keep the price low, so EA decided to venture off on their own. Good news, Sony has balls and said "nope" to letting EA do it on PlayStation so that they have a bargaining chip to put them in PS Now.
ea are like little babies when it doesn't go their way
Sony has the smartest gamers ever!!! They rent games for the same price as you can buy the game, I have a ps4, I'm not renting last couple of gen games in a $400 system that I bought for Next gen games,.. I can't get over the fact that if MS done this they would be the world worse company, but Sony does it and there gamers think they are God!!!!!...maybe we don't want Sony fans to buy X1 cause we will have to play with them online,.. Oh wait no worry they don't like the better deals lol
If you have a PS4 then the last bit of your post doesn't make sense as you refer to PS gamers as being on the opposite side from your self, refer to Xbox gamers as we, as in something you are part of.
You realize: 1) the prices in BETA are not final because they are "testing the waters" and ever since then the prices have gone nowhere but down...soooo that makes your first argument moot. On top of that we just heard of a subscription model....which means unlimited...so there goes your second point. also....did I mention WE STILL KNOW JACK ABOUT EITHER SERVICE AND THE PRICES AREN'T FINAL
The only way I'll really use PS Now is if there is a subscription model. Most I'll pay is $99/year.
I really want to see a $15-$20 monthly, stream all you want plan with maybe a 20% or so discount for Plus members. But with the pricing being crazy on PS Now beta as is I doubt that. I'm laughing at past me who hoped that Plus members would at least get to stream their old PS3 purchases on PS4 for free since they already bought them once (digitally I mean)
i feel like the xxsakukeguy and the naruto dude are just stuck in an Infinite Tsukuyomi where anything sony says they accept and don't question it.
Ps now is a over priced joke. Five hours for $5. This is going to fail. No over priced subscription is going to save this waste of time. You could save more money by buying a used psx and games then what would pay for this monstrosity of a service.
The beta goes live tomorrow for NA and even those prices haven't been announced yet, so I don't know where you're getting this nonsense from?
LOL using dated prices...
Maybe it's just me but I don't really fancy any of these PsNow, EA access services, not because it might not be decent but if they catch on is it going to start a trend of every major dev trying their hand at it. Next thing we know there are half a dozen different services each requiring a seperate subscription.
I want to see a yearly subscription model as well. $79 to $99 seems fair for access to the entire library of ps now software
Well basing on the yearly subscription of PS plus I suspect $59 to $69, $99 seems a bit to much but let's see what happens
How much would you pay each month for access to the entire Sony library?
This is a BETA!!!! Please NOTICE the email address for emailing concerns and the use of the words "TEST" & "BETA". Here is a copy of the email I received from Sony, hopefully it will shed a little light and stop the madness of unnecessary articles and pointless complaints. Hi Private Beta Testers, We just wanted to give you all a quick update on the next phases of PlayStation Now. As you may have heard, at our E3 Press Conference we announced that PlayStation Now will be moving into an Open Beta, first starting on PS4 system on July 31, 2014. We are excited to get PlayStation Now in the hands of all PS4 users - so there is a lot of excitement for July 31 to come around. If you didn't see our E3 trailer - take a look at it here. Now it's time for Private Beta news. On 6/18 you will have seen a title rotation which includes a fresh set of games as well as the introduction of a preliminary pricing test. Inside this first test, you will find a variety of rental prices and rental periods to choose from. These prices are ultimately decided on by the participating developers and publishers. Your feedback during this next phase of the Private Beta is extremely important, as we will be monitoring it closely. PS. If you have a rental period in progress for a game that just got rotated out: don't worry! You will still be able to access the rental up until the end of its rental duration by finding the game in your "My Games" section. Please give us your feedback in these Private Beta Forums or email us at [email protected] om and help shape the future of PlayStation Now Thanks, The PlayStation Now Team