Sony are working on a lot of new features but not all of them will come anytime soon. Also, there are no plans to release a windows phone app.
Whaaaaaaaaa? A man thought they'd be prioritizing charity causes why would Sony need money? Just fire more people Kaz then you don't need moneyz!
i think the first console that annouces mkv,dlnasupport will get a huge boost in sales ,so they should focus on whats gonnamake them money . if MShave full on dlna support(not the crap they have now) i want full file support with DTS etc then i will buy a xbone for that alone
I don't think so. The amount of devices every person has at home now that can do all of that stuff is quite high. Any semi modern HDTV playes video files directly or connects to other devices at home via WiFi for streaming content.
You're equating your own desire for mkv and dlna to being the desire the average person, indeed even most core gamers, have and you simply can't do that. These are gaming consoles, and before someone chimes in with "no they're not, blah blah blah features were advertised, blah blah blah multimedia," these consoles have always had the chief focus be on games and gaming. Multimedia features are NOT some standard that's been around forever on consoles that should be expected, they are a bonus meant to entice the lazy who continue to cry about space in their entertainment center into continuing to be lazy and pay money for convenience. I'm of the opinion that enough people have their consoles in the same room as their PCs or laptop and use those devices for their multimedia needs anyway because they perform those tasks far better than any console.
"i think the first console that annouces mkv,dlnasupport will get a huge boost in sales ,so they should focus on whats gonnamake them money . " Stopped reading there. No they won't.
To be fair the reason it hasn't been implemented is probably because they're both planning to do something special. With locally stored Music/video files... They will want to Snap, music, albums, Video files, folders, Repeat, Shuffle, skip, volume controls. Including a decent thought out interface with VLC library of codecs, EQ presets/manual would be amazing too. Then throw in auto-download officially signed artwork. Integration of server based storage in the home network, connecting to numerous tablet, PC, Mac, Android systems etc. Then we suddenly realise it's not as straightforward as you might first think. Smart glass integration to all of that... Although I love the traditional music players found in the 360 and PS3, I want to see new fluid feature sets, innovation, flawless integration and simplicity as a result of greater thought. I want MORE functionality and control then ever before. I imagine he who reveals first... will be out-done by the competition in the months following. DLNAsupport is such a vague title. Give us true media functionality
You would be surprised at how many ps4 fans believe sony is some sort of charity rather than a business.
Please provide one shred of proof that anyone believes Sony is a charity.
you shouldn't be surprised how many people actually take you seriously. :P
And I'm not surprised to find you in here, I'm sure you feel MS is some charity organization though! Lol WOW 4 other misguided and illinformed zealots agreed with your delusions. Lol
"You would be surprised at how many xbox fans believe MS is making a profit from there xbox division"
Sarcasm eludes you.
You would be surprised that some people think that building a great console and giving the customer what they want aren't mutually exclusive.
I would be surprised if you finally commented on Junes NPD results...
Weird that there's no Windows Phone app planned because Sony is going to be releasing a Windows Phone soon.
It makes sense not to waste resources developing for a smaller userbase but perhaps if Windows phones become more popular in the future then Sony may decide to make the app. I would still like Sony to continue to work on bringing the features they mentioned at launch though.
What makes sense for Sony is having a walled garden which explains why they positioned the music service first before allowing MP3 playback on the PS4. They want you to BUY content through THEIR devices. Sony's number one goal is to be profitable. The PS3 bled them money and they are not in a position financially to take those kinds of hits anymore.
Can't argue with that. Sony does need money, as do we all.
Ehh I had hopes for my windows phone welp.. thank God I have my Comcast mobile hotspot and my vita because without that well then i'd be a sad ps4 owner for sure... HAHAHA Gaming tens of miles away :D.
The app is for things no one uses. Millions have iPhones and PS4 and they aren't missing anything.
Speak for your self SpinalRemains138. I use the messaging system on my phone app a lot. Also every Wednesday when the store updates 9 times out of 10 am nowhere near my PS4 infact am usually out of the house. So I can have a peek what is new on the store. If there is a new demo or DLC or game on there I simply buy it and download it via my phone. So it is ready for me when I get back.
there not missing anything,the app is just a link to mobile site anyway,its the crappest app ever.
It is a link to the ps store yeah, but all the other stuff like watching videos, sending messages, viewing notifications and friends lists and trophys etc are all done in app... it's not that bad an app could do with some upgrades though.
Yeah, it works well enough for me. I can download the free PS+ games from work, which is all I ask.
If you actually had the app you would know that what you just said is a heaping pile of cow manure. The only thing that is a link is the psn store and live from playstation, everything else, notifications, messages, friends list, second screen feature, trophies, profile editing is done in app. No idea why you would make such a deceitful statement. Worse yet, people are agreeing with it.
@ramiuk1 Really? I find it very hard to believe you , that you have even used the App, at all. Because 1, that app. Is not just a link to a web page store. There is quite a bit more to the app. Than that.
to all my replies lol u find it hard to believe i have the app??? i have had a ps4 since launch day i love it. the app is crap and its as simple as that. its slow,clunky and just crap. yes obviouslt some things are done in app but poorly. when u compare it to other apps its very poor and needs a complete overhaul . maybe i dont wear tinted goggles and although my consoel of choice is ps4,they still need to up there game in many areas
This has absolutely nothing to do with tinted glasses. This has to do with your hypocritical and exceptionally deceptive statement that the app is a link to the mobile store. You lied, plain and simple. If you had said initially that the app needed some improvement because it had certain issues then that would have made sense, but you didn't. You painted the app to appear to be something it isn't and then you get defensive when people call you out on your BS. Your statement was false, no matter how you try to spin it. Your above comment made way more sense than the first one. I agree with the slow part but that doesn't make the app crap. It does exactly what it was designed to do but it does need some work in terms of responsiveness.
"Perhaps if Windows phones become more popular"...BWAH HA HA HA HA HA <gasp> HA HA HA How many years do we wait for THAT??? WP is an unmitigated disaster that BURIED Nokia! It has less than 3.5% market share worldwide and is LOSING ground to Android and iOS. It's no wonder Sony "has no plans"...they don't have plans to support the Palm Pre or Symbian either!
Sony has never been quite the software company like microsoft, so this makes sense.
Unless you count games as software.
and he's clearly not.
Sony has great First Party Studios that make some of the best games. When i spoke of software i was really meaning apps and os. Sony has improved on that front, just not as quickly and effectively as Microsoft.
Or apps as software, but I want to know what's Sony up to.
Why waste resurces on Windows for phones? May as well make a Symbian version!
If Sony want to make a quick buck, implement a name change system like XBL has had for years. Think, if that happened in the next update how many people would pay for a name change. All those people who picked ridiculous names when PS3 launched, all those people who are just bored after so many years...they'd make a fortune that day and lose absolutely nothing.
5$ each time you change it it increments 1$ man they'd make tons... but i'm keeping my name had it since Socom on ps2... EVERYONE KNOWS CHEF :d for well I am the original HAHAHAHAHA
Who buys a Windows phone, anyway? What possible reason could you have for buying one?
My reason was: I like it way more then iOS or Android devices. Most people hating on Windows Phones have never tried one and hate by default or because their friends do. Try one and you just might like it... well apart from the missing PS-app.
My Lumia 920 agrees with your reasoning. WP8.1 is a brilliant mobile OS.
I always wanted a phone with less available apps. Maybe you are right, I might love having less functionality with my phone!
That's just silly. I bet you have never checked wether your apps are available on WinPhone. I am missing exactly one app, the PlayStation-App. All other apps that I use are available. Sure some versions are not as good as their iOS/Android counterparts, but others are way better. Also talking about functionality, try beating Nokia-camera-quality on WinPhone. Sure we don't have 834 battery apps, maybe only 8, but guess what... I only need one.
I work for a well known car manufacturer based in the UK, we are currently running a trial with around 50 windows phones and Surface tablets spread among the engineers and I.T staff. so far, all i have received is constant moaning about the poor U.I and and lack of features. They all want iPhones and Ipads.
@ SniperControl Of course you will hear that. Because it's change, and change is bad. People generally don't like being forced to re-learn how to interact with their information and applications.
Reason 1, cortana using the power of BING( yes, THE POWAH OF BING!) to help you place sports bets and make you rich so you can buy a real phone like a samsung or something. Theres a reason :P /s (just a lil joke, please don't hurt me, internet.)
@WeAreLegion Because the Nokia phones are great and WP8.1 is fantastic. Of the 4 different phone operating systems I have owned and used over the years, it's the only one I have really loved. In fact, every person I know who has spent any good measure of time with it has agreed that it's just a slick, beautifully simple little OS. And if you look at the market trends, a lot of people are buying Windows Phones these days. You really ought to try to set your prejudice aside for a moment.
Never had a Windows phone, but I've had a couple of Nokia phones and in my experience they aren't great. The only reason I got the second one was because of a deal they had going at the time… plus the Nokia rep was in the store and she was hot. Yeah… I'm weak.
The ladies. They get you every time. I can't speak to your experience with the Nokia phones - the Nokia 928 is actually my first one. I was basing my larger hardware generalization off of what I've seen by way of tech reviews and those of my friends who have other models. Obviously, I could be wrong on the "great" assessment, but they're shooting a fairly high percentage from what I've seen.
Nokia 3210 lads, lets be honest. Best phone ever made. Just for having Snake alone. I miss when phones were sturdy and didn't break from a slight breeze :(
I love it how people think that less apps available for a certain phone means the phone sucks. Who cares how many millions of apps are available for ios or android, the real fact is you end up downloading 10-30 apps tops that you will actually use more than a few times and that's it. The other 'millions' are worthless. Then again, I'm not app-happy like some.
I'm in the same boat with you. However, there is some merit to the criticism. For instance, I hate the fact that I own a Sony ActionCam (their GoPro equivalent). I bought the higher-end version that comes with a WiFi feature that allows your to use your phone as a viewing screen and remote (through a Sony app). This was a fantastic little feature when I had an Android phone, but I was monumentally bummed when I upgraded to my Windows Phone only to find that there was no such app on the marketplace (thanks, Sony). A second example is my wife. As a doctor, she practically breathes through her phone some days. There are some very critical medical applications such as Epocrates, which she absolutely must have access to in order to work efficiently. Sadly, the most important ones are only available on iOS and Android. Things like that can be deal-breakers for some people. So I understand the criticism coming from that direction.
Um...I have one. Switched over from ios two years back. I'm sticking with it because it's simple, has a clean interface, it's easy-to-use, is fast, I love the polycarb hardware design on my lumia 920, and the purview camera is brilliant.
Sony HAVE to work on features that they promised as launch features or features that missed launch so we were told they were working on them to release ASAP! - These are features that made them the money they have already had from it's customers. At this stage it's clear that these were either not yet worked on at all or they have but Sony feels no need to release them until the competition is closer. Either situation of that argument is extremely disheartening but how can we complain when fanboys are so loud at praising there beloved companies & blindly ignoring anything they don't agree with or makes their unaffiliated company look bad!?
what features are missing? im actually asking because indont know. only feature i think that is missing from announced specs is suspend/resume, partial downloads to allow you to play game before download finished. these 2 are the big ones and like you said were promised features and should be sorted out asap. mp3/dlna/3d support wasnt announced i think, people just presumed that sony will have these basic(?) features from the get go. fanboys are praising their prefered consoles too much though, especially sony. it is disheartening and sony should try better, but seeing as how sony likes to add features slowly i dont think we would get these until next year.
Like you said, the biggest one there I would say is the suspend/resume after they made such a big deal about the console being built around it & then even a year later it's not even implemented yet. That raises big suspicions with me & it should do even with the fanboys as well. Even if it's a feature you don't care about at all. For a company to pre-sell you a console & live on stage in front of millions state that the console was designed around a feature like this but then after the console is built & sold never to then include that feature only indicates 1 thing. The other features like MP3 playback etc I think even with them it's fair enough to assume that something that simple (& yes it really is that simple, take a look at the development speed of mini android pcs & their development teams that are in singular figures instead of sonys multimillion dollar r&d teams of hundreds) they should be added by now. It's clear at the moment that Sony are riding their success. Unfortunately for the customer it's now after we've already given our money away to them that we have to wait until they can be arsed to fulfil their end of the agreement. With the success of the PS4 & their recent comments it's going to be likely another year before they consider working on anything.
Sony games do have partial download and play I was able to download ShadowFall single and multiplayer separately, even then it wasn't long before I could play the first few missions in SP. Same with Knack I had the rest of the game downloading whilst I played the first chapter. I don't think 3rd party games do it, actually I know Fifa 14 does as you play a full 12 minute match whilst it downloads. So the feature is there it's up to developers to do it or for Sony to make it a standard.
@Mr writer The shadowfall just seemed like 2 separate downloads. Can't comment on the other games though. I was hoping it would be for most games and that you click on one download. After a whole it would tell you that you can start game.
Again it can be done but developers chose not to. So yeah that's one thing off your list.
Whoever wrote this just wanna get paid.
Then wheres the Psn name change feature?? Charge $5-10 for it.. Cha-Ching!!!
hopefully they bring the feature where after an update your ps4 can actually read a game disk :-/ SONY SORT OUT THE UPDATE never mind anyone with this issue just turn ps4 on to stand by and back on seems to have done the trick
lol, what a stupid fault. does that happen everytime you update? you see anyone else online with this fault? maybe you should post the fault on the sony forums. im trying to think back and i think my disk icon doesnt always load. i have lots of digital content so i dont really notice.
I'm pretty sure it don't as i vaguely remember doing an update before and going straight into ufc (disk). i did try another disk also and still didn't read it when i selected the game it just said no disk inserted .i did message sony but the old faithful turning it off and on again seemed to have done the trick lol
Surely that's a hardware issue rather than a software issue?
ahhh that is why they don't care about Vita that much anymore... it just didn't print money without them spending mmore work and money in their device... The same probably will happen to Morpheus... if it doesn't sell with the money (and games) they spent in at launch, they will drop support for it sooner or later.
No doubt the Internet will be angry that Sony wants to make money! I mean, gaming is a right! Right?
Ofcourse the internet will be mad, because they changed the slogan to "for the gamer...As long as we make money" now? Seriously though they are a company that needs to make money this should not be shocking to anybody.
a few things i want sony to add is suspend/resume, partial downloads to start game sooner, remote play stability. my vita remote play is not stable enough, sometimes playing through lan will disconnect. also remote play from wifi is not that great, not sure if its my wifi from vita side though. also i like a feature to turn off my ps4 if my remoteplay fails to load. its annoying when im away for a while and my remote play fails and then my ps4 is switched on until i come back home. is there a way to have ps4 go standby after a while of inactivity? also do something with games list, its annoying scrolling through a long list of digitals. ps+ is giving us 2 games a month now aswell, that means we are getting another 24 games in the next year. im sure everyone is going to think its too packed soon.
I fully agree with your last issue...the games list. They have the library there. Why not allow us to stick games that we aren't currently playing in there? That way, you know where it is when you need it and it doesn't take too long to scroll across the menu for the games that you are currently playing more. That wouldn't be too difficult and shouldn't require some HUGE change in the total UI.
I love reading the reactions to this, did anybody read the article? The very first paragraph says: A supposedly verified Sony employee has revealed the reason why there is a delay in releasing new features for the PlayStation 4. The Sony employee who goes by the handle IWorkForSony revealed on Reddit that they are working on those features first which makes them money. And all these defensive and attacking statements over a article based on rumors from Reddit with a handle of IWorkForSony.