Bungie told it's players to come out between 2-4 PM PST on Saturday and show its servers the true meaning of war. Now, Xbox's party and friends system has broke, and it looks like we've succeeded.
In addition to what the title say below is also affected. So PSN didn't crash even with many more users? "Xbox Live Core Services Limited" Signing into Xbox Live "7/26/2014 5:29:30 PM CST"
To be fair, more people use the party chat system on Xbox Live. There are a lot of silent lobbies when it comes to Playstation multiplayer games. Just sayin. @opproject I'm not damage controlling anything. Idk the exact cause of the crash, I was giving a reasonable guess as to why it could have happened. Or would you rather have me make a snark comment about Xbox live being unstable and PSN being better? I'd choose to be civil, thank you.
really? damage control just sayin, and weren't those xbots praising skype? lmao
When you use party chat, then it means that you have a private chat with your party! Of cource the lobbies are silent if everyone uses Party Chat.. You just proved that everyone on PS4 uses the Party Chat, since the lobbies are quiet. I use Party Chat all the time with my friends, instead of Game Chat.
@Rock Lee, I should have clarified, more lobbies are silent on PS because people don't use their headsets or they don't have one. More people use the party system on Xbox compared to Playstation, thus resulting in the crash, that was my original point.
Wait so you know there are more people using the party chat on xbl for this beta than there are for the ps4 based on what? Just so you know there is no proximity chat in destiny. Only fire squad and party chat. That's on both consoles. I don't know why you felt you had to give an excuse for xbl party chat breaking lol
Can't argue with that. I agree more people use chat on xbl than psn. Now if that would cause a crash? That's different
"There are a lot of silent lobbies when it comes to Playstation multiplayer games. Just saying." I've never noticed that at all, even on PS3 where no headset was included. Just saying. Voice chat causes problems for the infinite power of the Cloud, apparently. It is a beta though, after all.
"party chats" cant be "silent lobbies"
Party chat is broke in destiny unless you snap it you can not hear anyone! Just use the in game chat works perfect.
@Everyone I made a mistake with my wording. More people have headsets and use them on Xbox Live/ more people used the party system on Xbox Live during the Destiny Beta, THAT was my GUESS as to why it could have stressed their servers out. The "silent lobbies" was in regards to most PS users not having or using their headsets while they play their games. It's definitely more quiet when you play a PS online game compared to an XB online game. And it's funny, people would rather mock or use insults to get hollow agrees rather than come up with a logical alternative answer. @Thrust Doesn't mean people will use it. People need to calm down! it was a guess! lol
Played for a few hours today. Can confirm Destiny and Party Chat are working great on PS4. Hope XBL gets it crap together soon, so all Xbox players can not only sign in but get back on their party chat. After all, there isn't much beta time left.
Richard ps4 comes with headset!
O.O another lee
The party chat system is used just as much on psn as Xbox live.
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It took down Live! It's shocking that a game was able to crash the entire network.
Xbl party services is currently limited. So Bungie ALMOST took down XBL. Well the party chat is down. But everything else is fine though.
Let's be frank here, your damage controlling and its okay.
@Richard: Since every PS4 comes with a headset in the box, and there are more PS4s in the wild than there are XB1s, what you say doesn't seem likely. You're not pushing this as am educated guess. You're insisting on it, as if there could be no other explanation. But it's even more likely that PSN just isn't having problems. I can only guess you're basing your assumption of party chat use on the PS3, which wouldn't make sense for a multitude of reasons. The most important one there is that it's a different console, entirely. More important than that, though, is that you'd have no freaking clue how frequently party chat was being used in Destiny. Unless you were in a party, you wouldn't hear other people. If you weren't in a party, you'd hear nothing, voice wise. Unless you've got Sony or Bungie-provided numbers, toffee really got nothing. That's why people are "attacking" you.
@ RichardDawkins Please delete your account and try again. Seriously, you are clearly just a troll, and Richard Dawkins has done more in his lifetime than you could ever hope to do, please stop degrading his name by being a childish little prick who can't come up with a half decent user name that doesn't involve being a complete troll.
@Richard Dawkins Shut up and leave this site
I don't know about that especially with double the install base. Its just a beta though and I'm sure by launch it will be fine.
@dawkins "or they don't have one" You do realize every PS4 comes with a headset, right?
Yeah, I met all my friends on PSN MP by jumping like crazy in front of them or shooting at their feet instead of killing them to show them I was a friend...that's how we comunicate on PSN. /s Anyway, I don't think servers are worse on XBL than PSN, only if they apply(without warning SONY/MSFT) some automatised stress test then we can compare.
This was true of PS3 chat systems. It's not true at all of PS4's party chat. PS4's party system is incredibly popular and streamlined. When you play in 64 player games of battlefield, almost everyone is in a party with pals. It's maybe slightly worse than the Xbox system.
Do you have proof of your claims? Do you have numbers of people that use headsets and don't?
Most of the people I was on with at the time of the test (2pm PT), were using mics. Don't know how that affects the server as the game is already designed to have multiple people using chat.
when you buy into the all mighty cloud this should not happen they whole cloud thing was a lie
@ RichardDawkins Let me tell you exactly why you're WRONG: - You can't cite "silent lobbies" as evidence for lower private Party Chat activity. I doesn't make sense. - Every PS4 comes with a headset and many PS3 owners are able to use previous headsets with it as well. What you said is nothing more than an assumption based on an older biased opinion by others. - Party Chat is free on PSN, so more people are likely to use it than on XBL. - There are millions more people who own a PS4 than an Xbox One. - And there are more people playing the Destiny Beta on PS4.
I give him credit for defending his troll comment but im still gonna nomomnom on you bubbles. It make more sense if Destiny had good proxy chat like MAG or Planetside 2 but it doesnt so people use party chat.
But but but teh xbl is better then psn cause it's more stable. /s I wonder if someone's gonna try and spin this. *looks at Richard Dawkins* "A" for effort buddy.
I only play on ps4a nd no one uses a mic. I feel wierd when I use mine because I'm the only one in the games that I play.
Strange wonder what problem is. I don't think the game is using dedicated azure servers. It does seem that other games are also affected and doesn't seem tied to preview program. If it is tied to the bungie beta of destiny it might be that there is a problem with some of the (friend list data) send between servers to and from at Microsoft. http://support.xbox.com/en-...
It's not. Activision servers.
I'm starting to wonder if you people know the reason for having a beta.
It's so that we all get to see whether the game works best on PSN or Live, right? ;^P
I had issues with the beta on my ps4.. was unable to find a match in the crucible. It would just say "searching for guardians..." and would be stuck at 1/12 players.. Also the tower was completely empty... no other players.. it was weird.. happened at about 2:15 PDT.. so most likely due to the flood of players. apparently the ps3 was affected... but I was also affected on the PS4... I signed off after about 15 minutes of trying to find a match.. so I can't say how long it was an issue. Edit: Sorry it was only the Iron Banner tourny that i couldnt access.. didnt try regular control matches..
People were praising XBL like digital marvel, while its a regular online service and really doesnt stand out. Even Blizzard with its humongous resources cant handle servers when new expansion launches.
Where did this happen? I'm in canada just got off from playing all day with friends in a party
Probably just in the US, i played all day yesterday and havent had issues
Xbox fans were bashing PlayStation fans , karma is one hell of a drug .
The crash was there and it was around 15 minutes no more. Do we need an article each time something is wrong with XBL for 5 mins? As for problems with party chat in destiny it has nothing to do with XBL but with Destiny itself. You just need to launch party app before launching Destiny and everything will be fine. Game chat from destiny is crap compared to xbox live group chat which has much higher quality and response time. This article makes people believe XBL was down for a long time. Another click bite to make ps hardcore fanboys have something to talk about. THe person who wrote the article has no idea what it's all about and makes two completely separate issues into one to make it more believable.
Sounds like your the only butt hurt fanboy Ballseye. What's wrong were you banned for the last week it's not like you not to be on here 24/7 spilling your hate about Sony Ps4.
My friends list and any social aspect was down until at least 2am est so it was much longer than 15 minutes. I even checked the site every half hour.
Loool! This made my day! Another Xbot myth exposed that Live is better than PSN. Yes it was in the first years of last gen but Xbots were paying and PS3 owners weren't. Half as many people and the first test of the amazing Cloud and its gone disastrously wrong like everything else Microsoft have done in the past year. When will you Xdrones get it through your thick heads that MS not content with trying to ruin gaming have just told lie after lie? Even last month they dumped Kinect which they said they'd never do and which Xbots were saying is brilliant and totally makes the console, it would not be good without it, but as soon as it gets dumped its all "oh great decision Microsoft, its what was needed" now the sales will pick up lol. Constantly grasping at Stacked GPU, DX12, Tiled Resources, the Cloud etc straws. Wake up smell the coffee. Microsoft have always been a disgusting company, those of us old enough to remember knew and said when Microsoft entered Console gaming they would do this kind of stuff and true to form here we are. Look up the word "Deluded"
All that hatred from a small outage. Dreary me, this site brings out the worst of the kiddie warriors, that's for sure.
Its a game console and its a network disruption. Why take it so personal?You sound really bitter and childish..How old are you again?
You have issues if this made your day.
everyone's an engineer.
you need to get your facts right psn did go down
Oh boy Xbox live Party system crashing? and weeks ago Xbox Live core service was limited? I thought Xbox live was Perfection itself jk jk. That's surprising!
Better with the Beta than the final game.
Very true. The Beta factor has to be taken into consideration.
Oh, boy it's the schizophrenic psycho Naruto fan! The difference is this will more than likely be fixed by the end of the night.
And the curse of MS and Xb1 continues!When will it end?.I think Sony is using VOODOO against MS :P
Well PSN was down when the Destiny beta started for a while and it only took me around 6 hours to download Destiny on a 40Mbps connection. Both had their issues at some point.
Depends on where you live as to whether it was down as I had zero issues at that time(west coast here).
u need to change ur DNS to google or anything other then your internet provider as some have serious issues with psn on ps4, on ps3 i got full psn speed but on ps4 with my internet provider DNS its like 300kb/s top and 3mb/s with google DNS...
where the online superiority at? where the 300k dedicated servers at? where the cloud at? lmao PSN>XBL ALL DAY lmao xbl down wii u wii u wii u
which one went down for a month :) Sorry but until XBL goes down for an entire month or becomes unstable for more than a few hours, PSN will always have the title of worst online service between the two.
To be fair, its not like PSN just straight up broke for a whole month. They shut down psn due to the privacy intrusion it had from the hackers. Im glad they shut it down to fix the problem so it never happens again. It would be a different story if we were paying for mandatory online play back then but it was still free at that point. You know the saying, "you get what you pay for"
dude, psn never was DOWN A MONTH, PSN WAS HACKED 3 YEARS AGO, NOW IT'S 2014 AND SONY IS SPANKING THAT XBOX ASS
Ummm... http://www.engadget.com/200... http://www.examiner.com/art... "Xbox Live has been through this before as well, during holiday season no less! For nearly 2 weeks the Xbox Live outage raged on and, well, it seems like us gamers still haven't quite learned our lesson. I guess patience really is a virtue. If you thought a weekend was a long time to get a network rebuilt then perhaps you don't remember when Xbox Live was shut down simply from 'expansion pains'." Are you new to this debate? The noobs are the ones that seem to come up with idiotic comments like yours. Just two days ago someone wrote in a stream's chat "Sony is greedy, Microsoft is better." LOL Sad noob right there. 😂 Playstation is now superior to Xbox in every single way!
300k. dedicated servers for xbox one game version , this is a beta being run by Activision and bungie . Not MS so no servers till release.
The full game will still not be on MS servers. Thats only something that XBOX exclusive games get to use. Every 3rd party game will use their own servers. edit. Nope im wrong. MS made their azure servers open to every developer but its their choice to use them. But i doubt a developer sitting behind a publisher like activision will have the need to use them. I wouldnt be suprised if MS charges each developer to use their servers.
Nope it will stay the same. It's the same setup on all platforms - http://www.gameinformer.com... http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... "this is a beta being run by Activision and bungie . Not MS" - In the first place why would MS being running a beta for a game they are neither publishing or have a studio developing. It's not their property to do so.
Yup, beta and all MMO type games are running on game company's server but we're talking about party chat here which would be with MS's server.
It's not being ran on Xbox Live actual servers. Activision and Bungie. Just like EA have their own servers for their games..... Hmmm must be a fanboy