Submitted by Abriael 402d ago | opinion piece

Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 Should Not Be Compared: They’re Extremely Different Games

Comparing games can be fun, and there’s really nothing wrong with it when you pitch against one another two games (or two versions of the same game) that have enough in common to be actually comparable.

That's not the case with Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2. (Driveclub, Forza Horizon 2, PS4, Xbox One)

nicksetzer1  +   402d ago
Both look good, but to say you "can't compare them" is absolutely inept. Other than one being open world and one a circuit racer, I don't really see how they are "completely different." Both are aiming for a social racing experience. Just because one of them offers much more content doesn't make them completely different. I would say cod and battlefield are more different than these 2 games and they get compared all the time.

@abriel everything you can do in driveclub is available in horizon. If they are SOOO different why is that? Also, you are talking about "graphics" people are comparing gameplay and features ... whatever floats your boat though.

EDIT2: So, despite horizon offering ALL of the same things driveclub has, because forza horizon has a larger content and feature list they can't be compared? Isn't that the point of comparing games? The point of comparisons IS to look at differences in games, yet you claim games having differences makes them unable to be compared. Like I said BF has larger maps, ballistic physics, no killstreak rewards, slower movement speed, vehicles, etc. Yet it gets compared to COD (and fairly so) all the time.
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Abriael  +   402d ago
If you think two close level FPS are as comparable as two games one of which is open world and one is not, you're completely off mark.

Open world games are based on a completely different tech than closed level games, and require smaller assets for the hard disk to even keep up with rendering.

The faster you move in those games, the smaller the assets need to be, and the bigger the difference becomes.

"Other than one being open world and one a circuit racer, I don't really see how they are "completely different."

That's all the difference you need to set them completely apart.

@Edit: "everything you can do in driveclub is available in horizon."

That might be semi-true, but the other way around is undeniably false.
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Darkstares  +   402d ago
Here's the issue, many Playstation fans and Xbox fans for whatever stupid (silly, ignorant, you name it) reason don't get along. That's why we get these dumb arguments all the time flooding the forums.

We can enjoy two different musicians on two different recording labels but for some reason that logic doesn't apply to games. We can go and see two different movies from two different studios but that logic doesn't apply if two competing hardware devices are involved.

I am looking forward to both games, which often seems like I'm the minority on this site.
Me-Time  +   402d ago

Yes, there are people who hate one brand but love the other. But, that's not the point Abriael is trying to use in any way.
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vishmarx  +   402d ago
theyre perfectly comparable.
dont let the article fool you.
i get this argument for games like gta vs uncharted.where gta is loading 100 npcs 50 buildings 30 cars real time weather effects all at the same time while uncharted has the liberty of a predetermined route and hence can load far higher quality of assets in the same memory.

but here
both have the same number of onscreen cars.~
real time weather
no flyable planes(faster streaming needed)
and roughly the same amount of area loaded in the memory at an instance
the only difference i horizon streams a smaller area at an instance to compensate for the open world while driveclub loads a bigger are beforehand.

but the fact is dc blows horizon's graphics out of the water so much that we need such articles for damage control.
also im not talking content or fun.
by that logic forza 5 vs dc is a better comparison.

FYI IF I WERE TO PICK ONE ,ID PICK HORIZON IN A HEARTBEAT.loved horizon 1 more than any forza game, so you know im not biased.
i say just what i see.ive confused several DC screenshots for real pics
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Godmars290  +   402d ago
Let's see...

The PS/Xbox "war" first began when the PS2 handily outsold it's competition, which included first-time console maker MS. This likely inspired a more militant stance by Gates, included "indie" made fan videos about Sony going bankrupt when the PS3's price as announced, then went into overdrive, the levels we know now, because of RRoD. When people came into forums to troll and for help alike, only to be attacked.

Since then console "discussions" seem to be based more on feelings, brand loyalty, from the Xbox side, while the PS side possesses a bit of reason.
BG11579  +   401d ago
Agreed. To me the only comparable game to FH2 is The Crew. Both are open world racers.
Darkstares  +   401d ago

"The PS/Xbox "war" first began when the PS2 handily outsold it's competition, which included first-time console maker MS. This likely inspired a more militant stance by Gates, included "indie" made fan videos about Sony going bankrupt when the PS3's price as announced, then went into overdrive, the levels we know now, because of RRoD. When people came into forums to troll and for help alike, only to be attacked."

A militant stance by Gates? Hilarious. These 'wars' have been going on for decades. Nintendo and Sega for example. Difference is we didn't have social media like we do today but it's still basically the same thing, it's just gotten more vulgar because instead of saying in person people hide behind their keyboards now so they will say more ignorant things.

The reason why it's become the XBox versus Playstation is because those are the most comparable consoles. Nintendo has basically gone their own direction ever since the N64 and since then Sega dropped out.

"Since then console "discussions" seem to be based more on feelings, brand loyalty, from the Xbox side, while the PS side possesses a bit of reason."

What an odd take on the situation. Brand loyalty doesn't side with the Xbox brand. In fact more people jumped ship from the XBox 360 to the PS4 than the other way around. Loyalty is also very obvious when it comes to key regions like Japan. In fact I'd go as far to suggest loyalty is what got the PS3 through the tough times early on.

As for reason that's all based on person to person. We have seen many people on here who show no signs of reason from all camps.

The fact is this is all just silly ways to pass the time and when it comes to Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 we see bias and loyalty from each side. Being reasonable would be open minded about both games, regardless of the platform they are on. Can you honestly tell me the Playstation fans are any more reasonable than the XBox fans when it comes to be open minded about both games? If you answer yes then it's crystal clear where your bias lies and all one has to do is look through your post history to come to that conclusion.
Dee_91  +   401d ago
Just because one is open world and the other isn't, doesn't mean you can't compare them.They are both car racing games.Some people can't grasp the concept of comparing similarities it seems..They aren't "extremely different games " at all.They are extremely similar aside from one being open world.
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telekineticmantis  +   402d ago
Driveclub will be the greatest racing game of all time.
It has to be. When a great game like Gran Turismo comes out, with ten times the amount of content then any other racer, Nascar, offroad, sport, kart racing, over 1000 cars, fun side modes, weather, night racing, and an amazing feature like vision gt, which could trump most racers by itself. And xbox fans and journalists ridicule it for not having enough graphically enhanced cars, and funny sounding motors..Well that means that none of that stuff matters... So i present to you Drive club, it has the bestest graphics, and great sounding motors you could shake a stick at.

If you disagree with that, then make a choice, the greatest graphics, or great content and gameplay.
Me-Time  +   402d ago
I agree, but only because I love GT and only like Forza (even though I hate T10).
Team_Litt  +   402d ago
Quantity may not necessarily = quality but that in no way means lack of content is the answer. You are being obtuse.
GT5 had 800 ps2 quality cars and a hair dryer for engine sounds, how can you sit there and justify that lack in quality?
incredibleMULK  +   402d ago
"Bestest graphics"?? How about "worstest" English?? Lol
telekineticmantis  +   402d ago
Team Litt
EXACTLY! Thank you! That's why I thank goodness, we now have Drive club. I mean GT was reaching 300 premiums, close to the max any other racer, and was literally a racer you could play for the rest of your life, it didnt have enough good graphics. I played countless hours of GT, it had some of the best controls, but once i saw Forza 5, and its whopping 14 tracks, i sold my PS3. I had to decide... Everything i want from a racer or new shinier cars, SOLD! I picked shiny. ;)
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telekineticmantis  +   402d ago
@Incredible Mulk
Yeah, there's thing in American english communication called sarcasm(dont worry, I struggle to grasp it‘s actual usefulness, myself ). You see sarcasm is a form of passive aggression, a facade put up to express the futility of the communicators opposing view. Funny thing, >aint it<(that last one was for your amusement, take that one with you, enjoy it for the rest of the day.;)
DOMination-  +   402d ago
DC only has 50 cars and a limit of six playersper club which is shoddy as hell.

But it looks great other than that. I'm getting both.
Team_Litt  +   401d ago
Forza launched with 14 unique tracks and 53 variations of those tracks with p2p, reverse tracks, ect.
Drive club on the other hand will launch with 5 Locations. Each with 2 x P2P, 2 x RC & 1 x RT. All P2P & RC are playable backwards, whilst RTs have 3 variations.
Those 55 tracks you keep hearing about are actually track variations and reverse tracks.
MysticStrummer  +   402d ago
"Other than one being open world and one a circuit racer…"

That's a huge difference to me. Burnout Paradise was a good game, but I much preferred the older Burnouts on PS2. Open world is a very different style of game, whatever the genre.

"I would say cod and battlefield are more different than these 2 games and they get compared all the time."

Just because it happens doesn't mean it should happen.
Magicite  +   401d ago
I think u can compare the crew to forza horizon 2 and driveclub to project cars.
Back-to-Back  +   401d ago
You cant compare because of the fact that Driveclub is superior in every way. I am shocked people are excited for Flopza Horizon 2 after how terrible the first game was.
FanboyKilla  +   401d ago
if you compare them ones list is going to stop waaaaaaaaay shorter than the other. and we all know whos got the short end of the stick. thats why you are here right? when i found out dc was closed circuit i was out. hey doesn't ps plus get like 10 cars and 10 tracks for free? thats enough dc for me.

hey it may look better than horizon, but thats all you are going to get. thats their focus. not cars, not driving, not upgrades, not damage to cars, not customization, not racing, it looks pretty though. lol bet they wish they would have made that original release date now. oh yeah and it was free remember? then they hit ya with that premium shi*.

oh yeah lets compare the fact that horizon announced way after dc, but i have more info on horizon. if i was a betting man id say its already ova. just by the shakiness of dc development. lets be honest the graphics is all its got. have you seen anything different? all i hear sony fans say is it looks good. never it looks fun. good luck with that.

wtf is an arcade sim? i felt stupid just typing it. how can two words that mean the opposite of each other be used together. its not a sim. its arcade. the fact that is arcade stops it from being sim. you cant have your cake and eat it too.
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DevilOgreFish  +   401d ago
"Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 Should Not Be Compared: They’re Extremely Different Games"

no shit, Drive club is circuit racing and Horizon 2 is sandbox racing. horizon 2's map is also like 4 times bigger than the first game.
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XiSasukeUchiha  +   402d ago
One is open worlded the other is racing acrade sim, enough said!
Tibbers  +   402d ago
DriveClub and "arcade sim"? Don't make me laugh.
telekineticmantis  +   402d ago
Open world meaning what? Skyrim was garbage, so was twilight princess, so i have to understand why open world is such a key phrase for people. So open world._ meaning i get to cheat and cut across tracks, or meaning alternative shortcut routes, which we've seen in racers since the dawn of time?...
Salooh  +   402d ago
Both arcade lol ..
truefan1  +   402d ago
Being completely honest this sounds like some damage control because in terms of content and features it's no contest. Being slightly different hasn't stopped people from making comparisons before, hell it was so bad people compared Titanfall to infamous:ss. If Driveclub had more than graphics people would be comparing the two to no end. All in all people don't want to compare the two because FH2 sounds like a much more complete game.

@OsirisBlack you are obviously trying to bait me, you know darn well DC does not have more cars.
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OsirisBlack  +   402d ago
Absolutely incorrect people dont want to compare the two because Drive Club visually spanks Forza and it also looks to be a much more complete game. The only real comparison you can do for the two is graphically we already know DC has more cars and more true tracks what does that leave?
MrKrispy  +   401d ago
LOL so 50 is greater than 200 how did you come to that conclusion
OsirisBlack  +   401d ago
Guess I should have put a /s at the end of this as it was sarcastic but guess it was not obvious enough.
SCW1982  +   402d ago
If you would read a lot of peoples impressions you would realize that driveclub has more going for it than just graphics. Game informer said when comparing the two that driveclubs handling felt better. But of course you being truefan love to neglect peoples preview impressions. Your a joke to gamers everywhere.
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MrSwankSinatra  +   402d ago
I guess forza 5 isn't a complete game when being compared to forza horizon 2 going by your logic.
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Abriael  +   402d ago
Love how you completely missed the point, truefan.
user7402931  +   402d ago
driveclub is a more complete game
timotim  +   401d ago
You cant be serious. More complete than Horizon 2? How? DriveClub to me is the exact opposite...its one of the most incomplete racers of the past decade. Its extremely predictable and does nothing remotely new in terms of pushing the genre forward.
Mkai28  +   401d ago
Let's see, DC to have 50+cars, reused tracks, and weather coming sometime after? Yeah, it looks real complete. You fanbums are the worst, all you look at is graphics and say, Forza Horizon 2 has 1000 clubs, customization with 3000 layers on each side, 200+ cars, 3 times bigger then it's predecessor but so what? DC has better GRAPHICS so it's just better.

It's like picking a model to a pretty woman, the model is the obvious choice on the outside appearance but she doesn't cook or clean and is stuck up. The average pretty woman cooks, cleans, and is fun to be with. You fanbums just worry about if DC will be the RYSE of racing!
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SG1_dapunisherX  +   402d ago
@turnfan when pplz on n4g was comparing tf and infamous sales shit was getting outta hand... I'm like woo both attract different audiences...
Xsilver  +   402d ago
then with your logic everyone should just buy GT6 since it's content galore and screw every other type of game gotcha see this is why you lost your pride.
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johndoe11211  +   402d ago
Again you make a comment that makes as much sense as making a kite out of concrete.

What exactly is a "complete" game? Because one game has less content than another that makes it incomplete? Was fallout 1 incomplete because fallout 3 had 100x more content? Was mortal combat 1 on the super nes incomplete because it only had quarter of the moves as mortal kombat 9. And i'm using games here that can be directly compared because they are of the same series.

Because these systems are new and the devs have not fully mastered them there has to be trade offs. Either you focus on gameplay and graphics or you focus on gameplay and content. Driveclub devs chose to focus on gameplay and graphics. In doing so they decided to have less content than a game like forza horizon 2 but that does not mean it is an incomplete game.

I'm sure given another year or so they probably would have been able to put in a lot more content but then the game would have to be delayed even further. FH2 is a very good looking game but don't fool yourself, it is no where in the same league graphically as driveclub.

More doesn't necessarily translate to better. Case in point COD. Black ops 2 and Ghosts had way more content, customizations and features than MW2, yet, MW2 is considered by most cod players to be the best, most fun cod ever. Any simple internet search on the hundreds of surveys done would show that.

This "more content" false argument that you and a lot of xbox supporters on this site try to use is a figment of your imaginations and is an irrelevant point when taking reality into consideration.
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WeAreLegion  +   402d ago
Even if Driveclub had one million cars, ten million tracks, and every feature you can possibly dream of, Truefan would find a way to say it sucks. This isn't about quality for him. It's about Xbox and Playstation. Stop comparing these games.
y7jzdgy  +   402d ago
Hmm.. seems like you're describing the average Sony fan.
WeAreLegion  +   402d ago
Fanboys, in general. They're all pretty bad, dude.
telekineticmantis  +   402d ago
Soooooo, great content equates to great game, so Gran Turismo is the greatest racing franchise of all time...Thank You! Its about time somebody admitted it.
Revengeance  +   402d ago
Then let's compare Forza 5 to GT6. Guess which one is the complete game? I'll give you a hint: it's the one that DOESN'T have a crowd full of stick people.
ziggurcat  +   402d ago
@ treufan:

"Being completely honest this sounds like some damage control because in terms of content and features it's no contest."

oh? so you've played, and have been able to delve deep into the content/features of both games?

"If Driveclub had more than graphics people would be comparing the two to no end"

classic truefan downplay... DC visually spanks forza, so that's all DC has going for it... gotcha. as it's already been pointed out, DC could have had a million cars, 2 million tracks, and *still* be visually more impressive, you would have found a way to downplay DC (my guess is you'd pull the "bu-bu-but FH2 is open world" card).

"All in all people don't want to compare the two because FH2 sounds like a much more complete game."

"sounds like", but isn't because both are complete games. throwing more stuff into a game =/= it's more complete.
Ko_Uraki  +   402d ago
Driveclub is a fantastic graphical showcase and I will buy it, but Horizon 2 is my most awaited game.
CloudRap  +   402d ago
Driveclub seems to be the Titanfall of racing games. Yeah it looks great its just very barebones content wise.
Remy_Chaos  +   401d ago
There is truth to this but just as Titanfall, DriveClub should establish a solid foundation to build upon. Its up to the both developers but any sequel should be fantastic and content flooded.
patrik23  +   402d ago
according to truefan GRAN TURISMO is better than forza because it has more content
dragon82  +   402d ago
GT is better than Forza.
98xpresent  +   402d ago
GT cars sound like vacuums.
SoapShoes  +   402d ago
^ Not on my sound system it doesn't. Go into settings and set it to Large Theater for uncompressed audio with a 5.1 or 7.1 system and it sounds rather good, not perfect though. Also GT does a better job at making a cockpit sound like a cockpit rather than using the same sounds regardless of camera.

Either way that's just something people say because they know GT has superior physics and is a better sim. Forza has better customization though but don't get me wrong I like all sims it's just those arguments against GT are weak. Sure it needs improvement but there are areas Forza and other sims need improvement as well.
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SoapShoes  +   402d ago
@dragon82 - I agree, better physics, more realistic driving. Also it's great for gearheads like me, it has so many cool cars and lots that I never heard of. I like discovering new cars and I like that they don't only focus on exotic cars.
Tony-Red-Grave  +   402d ago
Next we'll compare apples snd oranges. Both are round (racers) but taste veeeeery different (open world vs closed circut). The point is driveclub and FH2 aim for slightly different audiences. If FH2 was Burnout paradise driveclub would be one the older closed circut burnout games*.

If anything i'd compare driveclub to the NFS games, not open world ones, since they aim for the exact same audience and both are simcade.

*incase i'm wrong about older burnouts not being open world please disregard said comparashion and replace it with NFS
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francknara6  +   402d ago
Comparing what is different has always been way more interesting than comparing what is the fucking same.
DivineCrusader  +   402d ago
You hit the nail on the head. Please marry me.

Seriously, arguing that comparisons are pointless because the products are different is ridiculous. Differences are in fact what makes them comparable in the first place.

That said, there is such a thing as an unfair comparison. What determines the legitimacy of the argument is the premise on which it is based.
Gameseeker_Frampt  +   402d ago
Ok, so we'll compare Driveclub to Forza 5. Will that make the author feel better?
NeoGamer232  +   402d ago
They are two very different types of racers optimized for two very different experiences.

Comparing GT to Forza is fair...

I think outside of graphics comparing Forza Horizon and DriveClub is fair as well. The issue comes comparing open world to closed environment games. You cannot compare GTA to a game like Wolfenstein New Order graphically. Closed environment graphics should always be better.
Gameseeker_Frampt  +   402d ago
I completely agree. I also think that it is perfectly fine to compare the graphics of the 2 games since that is a big part of what modern racing sims are all about.

The problem is that DualShockers' way of life has become comparing everything to everything. Heck, they have compared every version of the Destiny Beta, because apparently we as gamers cannot survive without knowing which Beta version looks the best. So for them to come out and tell us what we can and cannot compare is pretty insulting.

Driveclub is going to look better since Evolution Studios delayed the game a year to make it look better (the delay is not mentioned once in this article). Forza Horizon 2 is going to be more of a game that I like since I prefer open world games. And I am pretty sure that come release dates DualShockers will be comparing them.
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Tibbers  +   402d ago
Makes even less sense.
2cents  +   402d ago
It will definitely make Sony FB's feel better, fo sure.

Comparing a rushed launch racer on a lower speced console with a nearly 1 year delayed racer on a higher speced console.

Totally Fair.
Spotie  +   401d ago
Why would that make Sony fanboys feel better? If anything, they already claimed victory by comparing GT6 to Forza 5.

Fans of Sony are pretty secure in their belief that Drive Club is- or will be- a standout title. It's the Xbox fans/fanboys that are looking for redemption with Horizon 2.

Ironically, they don't seem to realize their attempts to bash DC only make the very last Forza look that much worse. See above for examples.
2cents  +   401d ago
Sarcasm my friend.

Not many sharp tools in this box judging by the disagrees to my original post.

read my post below for my actual opinion
KwietStorm  +   402d ago
Of course they're very different, but console wars.
typittt69  +   402d ago
That's why i'm getting both.
system22  +   402d ago
Yup. That's what I've been saying. Having the best of both worlds doesn't suck.
system22  +   402d ago
F'n finally. I've been saying the exact same thing. Naturally I get 5000 disagrees because it's n4g so the ps4 is just that amazing despite facts. Now. Someone write an article explaining the difference between sim and arcade racers and why sims are usually pared back a bit graphically in comparison. I'll give you a hint... It comes down to sims using lots of processing to calculate actual real physics models, not just canned "feels good for the game" arcade physics.
2cents  +   402d ago
Even logic and Facts will not stop the inevitable.

Do driveclub and Horizon2 look good, yes.

Will gamers enjoy them, yes.

Will fanboys waste their time arguing over which is better instead of actually playing them, yes.

Will gamers have the last laugh? Yes.

Fanboys Suck Balls
weirdo  +   402d ago
here's a thought, if you own a ps4 then get driveclub. if you own an xbox, get forza!
GearSkiN  +   401d ago
I own both, both of my consoles win!
DoubleM70  +   401d ago
Hell yes. You win Dude :)
system22  +   401d ago
Jihaad_cpt  +   399d ago
Your wallet loses
MorePowerOfGreen  +   402d ago
In Forza Horizon you can turn on full damage and SIM handling. You can also change parts which affect how the cars perform. And yes it's open world multi player.

It's like comparing Destiny to Doom.
Big-finger  +   402d ago
Driveclub makes forza looks like a last gen game. Proof here:

And please enlighten me how the gameplay in forza is supposed to be better?
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LAWSON72  +   401d ago
Drivatars=more next gen then better visuals. If MS can push that kind of feature to like the next Gears or something it would be incredible.
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timotim  +   401d ago
DC looks VERY good indeed. But understand that Horizon 2 is the much more ambitious title. Open world, Drivatars, better physics calculations, more customizations...it makes DC look like last-gen in terms of feature set, modes and pushing the genre.
Fluchtpunkt  +   401d ago
@ big finger

wow...so u played them both?
Or are you just judging the games bc of youtube and hearing-saying?

Just wait till u can play them both....
Sm00thNinja  +   401d ago
This is off topic but does anyone miss FULL AUTO? That game was BOSS
GearSkiN  +   401d ago
This site need to start banning people that just troll the other console...
iamgoatman  +   401d ago
They haven't bothered banning people for years, why would they start now? Most of N4G's ad money probably comes from the trolls.
Broburger  +   401d ago
fanboyism is a disease
bleedsoe9mm  +   401d ago
from some of these comments pretty sure its a mental illness
Goku781  +   401d ago
The biggest down fall on Horizon 2 is its on Xbox One so it kinda starts with a handicap.
objdadon  +   401d ago
Driveclub is in a class of its own anyway. Nothing compares!
oODEADPOOLOo  +   401d ago
Gets too nitpicky when you cant even compare games in the same genre anymore. I still do it for myself and for friends, but that's mainly for comparing value when I have to make decision between one over another.
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dota2champion  +   401d ago
It's a racing game. they play exactly the same, nothing different about them.
Max-Zorin  +   401d ago
Fanboys be like "the tires look more realistic on this screen compared to the other".

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