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Jimquisition The Xbox One: A Lying Failure Machine

Piece by piece, everything that Microsoft intended the Xbox One to be has eroded away, revealing nothing but dishonesty and shortcomings beneath.

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All_Consoles1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

What a click bait article. I'm damn tired of these self proclaimed journalists fanboying it up. It's disgusting and the fact people publish this on n4g is the opposite of discerning

fonger081125d ago

Meh, it happens every gen (since online so-called journalism has taken off). Unfortnately the fanboy wars fuel these sites and their click bait opinion(s) and from the looks of forums there's no slowing that down. It is what it is I guess, I just don't see them stopping anytime soon unfortnately.

xHeavYx1125d ago

I'm tired of people calling other articles click bait just because the journalists have different opinions. It's like you can't criticize anything without being a hater or wanting clicks. He is basing the video on HIS opinion as someone who OWNS the machine

JeffGUNZ1125d ago

@ Heavey

It's fine if one doesn't prefer something, it's the maturity and professionalism that is lacking in this writing. Look at the title; The Xbox One; A Lying Failure Machine". Really? You think that is a professional writing a title like that? Did you even see what he said? I don't care if people don't like something, but if you're going to be taken serious in the field of writing, as minor as this guy is, you should try to show some maturity. He appears to be a little bias, don't you think?

Baka-akaB1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

I dunno , i dont find it less professional that the amount of fake politeness and beneolvent attitude toward publishers and constructors from other outlet and "journalists" .

MS has been caught lying and retreating on their policies multiples times now . So i'd rather have someone genuinely a fan and gamer , react even immaturely , over bland sterility and acceptance .

Gaming journalism was already making tons of excuses and defense article , back in the day the Drm was a serious thing . They only switched their agenda when they saw that no amount of PR bull was going to sway an overwhelmingly antagonist gaming community from all brands and sides involved .

He's volatile and rude , but hey that the way he's always been . You dont have to like him , but dont pretend it got anything to do with branding , and that now he should change his tune , because he's now crapping on the xbox one .

BlackTar1871125d ago

@jeffgunz

well was he bias last gen?

Last gen his opnion
360>>>>>>ps 3
this gen so far
ps4>>>>>xbox one.

Can he be bias with a track record like that or is he just calling it as he sees it from his own point of view?

Just cause he hates on one doesn't mean he's bias unless the people who loved him last gen for his pro 360 stance are willign to admit he was bias last gen?

uth111125d ago

I agree that "Lying failure" is excessively provocative to draw attention. And I say that as a PS4 fan.

Kayant1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

@JeffGUNZ
"It's fine if one doesn't prefer something, it's the maturity and professionalism that is lacking in this writing" - Right so what would you call it then based on the content in the video?

"He appears to be a little bias, don't you think?" Bias in what way? He has a style if you don't like it that's fine but what bias is being presented here exactly? He is calling out the promises that have been 180ed or axed by MS so far. Things that were presented as the core vision for XB1 at their reveal in May last year.

choujij1125d ago

As someone who's always supported every console (including Xbox 360 on launch day), I can certainly tell you not all negative opinions about Xbox stem from fanboyism.

darthv721125d ago

Its a catch 22. if a company stuck to their plan then they would be labeled unfriendly to the consumer regardless of how things turned out.

when a company changes due to consumer backlash, they are labeled as having no direction or backbone to stand up for their product or service.

its a lose - lose situation. It happens.

AngelicIceDiamond1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

What's disturbing is this is like 10th Xbox bash article.

The backtracks are annoying.

Lying about what exactly?

failure. Failure because its not selling as much as PS4? I'd say they're failing at delivering some its promises for sure.

Something that I also noticed people seem so caught up on other aspects of Xbox and almost COMPLETELY ignore the games. That very one thing that literally everyone has been asking for.

It seems as if they bash everything else besides the games MS has coming for it.

MS shutting down its Entertainment studio is a big headline and a disappointment. But notice how nobody who writes these articles quotes Nadella's reasoning.

He did it to focus on gaming, core studio's and possibly even using the now defunct Entertainment studio into a AAA game studio. Nobody wants to talk about MS very healthy AAA games and better indies support. I thought it was about games?

People constantly magnify the negative aspects but completely ignore or choose not to talk about the games X1 has coming for it.

Every time these articles pop up I usually ignore them because I just think about how I'll be playing Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Quantum Break, Fable Legends, Halo 5, Gears 4, etc.

ZodTheRipper1125d ago

This is pure clickbait but you actually can't disagree with the facts that he brought up. Microsoft just continues what they did during the last decade, I still can't believe why so many people are falling into this.

Kayant1125d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond

"failure. Failure because its not selling as much as PS4? I'd say they're failing at delivering some its promises for sure. " - And when did he talk about that in the video exactly?

"Something that I also noticed people seem so caught up on other aspects of Xbox and almost COMPLETELY ignore the games. That very one thing that literally everyone has been asking for.
etc....
"
Right and you seem to forget the promise of XB1 being an "All in all-in-one entertainment system" where is that vision now exactly? So basically you don't watch the video and just go along to how he's supposedly just bashing the XB1 when in actuality he is talking about the failed promises and decisions that have been reversed. Yes it's about games, it is also about entertainment for the XB1 which was a premier selling point as seen from it's slogan and reveal which is now gone with the closure of the studio made for said vision.

You can't exactly measure what will happen with the supposed refocus on gaming statement. MS invested $1 billion in game development how much has been used is unknown, how this development will lead to better focus in games cannot really be measured because well for one you cannot tell what stuff announced in future is part of this renewed focus or prior investment. If they XB1 becomes like the X360 after a few years of strong support then you have your answer.

NatureOfLogic_1125d ago

I feel bad for the ones that bought Xbox One early or day one. They bought into MS vision of a console which has now been totally 180d. Now that Xbox One is just trying to be like PS4. I wonder how many Xbox One early buyers feel screwed and lied to by MS. After all, MS have told many lies yet still have mediocre sales and inferior third party games despite them saying things like "we'll never give up 30% power advantage to Sony" or "I can't wait for the truth to come out." Well the truth is here and PS4 is clearly more powerful as proven time and time again. How many people actually believed MS lies and bought Xbox One? There's no way MS can compete with Sony first party games and now with PS4 leading they can no longer afford third party exclusives like last gen. Xbox One is in a tough position, imo, It's very well deserved for MS extremely anti consumer drm, always connected and no used games attempt.

AngelicIceDiamond1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

@Kayant Yeah I was on edge after seeing http://n4g.com/news/1551882...

I thought it was just the usual Xbox bashing that goes on around here so I apologize for jumping the gun.

I should of expected more from Jim Sterling.

"Right and you seem to forget the promise of XB1 being an "All in all-in-one entertainment system" where is that vision now exactly?"

I just want it to focus on games. The All in one was interesting but they need to focus on the software at the end of the day. If not then why call it Xbox?

And yes the original slogan, marketing and selling point was the All In One I understand that. MS should of done a different approach instead.

I didn't watch the video I thought it was a usual bash article just like I stated above.

As for your last paragraph. I've debated that too many times.

Who knows, for the mean time I'll enjoy what's coming. If MS stays on track with the games like they are now I'll be a supporter. If they repeat the same mistake with 360 in favor of some of other quick buck gimmick then I'm out.

That's my stand.

Baka-akaB1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

"I feel bad for the ones that bought Xbox One early or day one. They bought into MS vision of a console which has now been totally 180d. "

Dont feel bad for all of us . I didnt put much stock into MS' claims , nor did i believe in the power of the clouds , stars and whatever .

I bought it solely to play the exclusive Xbox franchises i'm into , and potential new ones from a few studios .

That being said , even with a cynical outlook , and quite frankly no love at all for MS ... i was taken aback by how quickly they ditched Kinect and some other things .

I expected them to stand by Kinect , at least in a PR fashion , not by providing the "core game" kinect experience , some still hopelessly awaits . But by shouldering a cost they can absorb , and lower the price of the console to match the ps4 , while selling it WITH kinect .

It changes little for me , i'll just keep playing the XB1 franchises that interest me . Their image just got even worse , as far as i'm concerned , that is all .

Eonjay1125d ago

He ripped into the Microsoft. But he was right.
Why should they be applauded for trying to unscrew up what they screwed up. Furthermore, they never admitted to being wrong or lying about not being able to remove Kinect, or that Kinect was here to stay, or DRM is irreversible, or that their system was underpowered. They never came clean on anything.

People, very simply, get tired of feeling like they are being lied to, deceived or condescended to (See Angry Joe's interview for what is perhaps the most dismissive condescending response ever from official PR rep.)

gaffyh1125d ago

He's basically just saying what everyone is thinking, but what every journalist is actually afraid to say because they will look biased.

xilx1125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

@Angelic

"Failure" is used in the video in relation to not living up to its suite of features from the console's initial reveal. It's in no way talked about in terms of sales, just the things that never came to be or features/policies that were changed. There was a vision MS had for the console before they revealed it to the public, and they failed to achieve that vision because they had to keep changing things due to a negative response from the consumers.

The "lying" aspect in the video comes from talk about things like kinect being an integral (the word he used in the video several times) or essential (the word MS has used a bunch) part of the xbox one.

TheSoundDefense1124d ago

@JeffGUNZ

When they give an article an angry, inflammatory title (even if they believe it wholeheartedly), the opponents dismiss it because "nobody rude or inflammatory can be taken seriously/only biased people have strong opinions about things." If they gave a neutral or low-key title, the opponents would dismiss it by ignoring it entirely, because it's much easier to do. There's nothing this man could have done to make you actually consider what he had to say. Your mind was made up long before the video was made.

Enigma_20991124d ago

@Eonjay

No one cares. Simply because by proving his point, he s*** all over their precious XBox One. They don't care that he has a valid criticism. They care about that.

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DragonKnight1125d ago

Didn't watch the video did you? Jim presents CONSUMER based opinions, not fanboy based opinions.

Godmars2901125d ago

No, sounded like mostly his own opinion.

This I say while admitting that it sounds very much like my own.

DragonKnight1125d ago

Is Jim not a consumer like anyone else?

Prime1571125d ago (Edited 1125d ago )

Well, he expressed opinions that sounded like consumer opinions, not fanboy opinions, yes. However, I think it was more like frustrated concerns. Concerns that Godmars290 also has ("This I say while admitting that it sounds very much like my own.").

Microsoft's PR is one of the best, and many people buy into it, and that's a lot of what the video was talking about. Like the fact that we applaud their unscrewing ups while not saying, "Sorry, we were wrong." It just goes to show that the underlying problem(s) still exist.

That's why you have to vote with your money... Here's looking at EA next.

GameSpawn1124d ago

I love Jim and Yahtzee from Escapist. Both of them (aside from their entertaining accents) say what we are all thinking. Yes, they have an opinion sometimes, but they are very clear when they are stating an opinion and a fact.

For this one video, Jim stated MANY facts concerning the Xbox One. When you consider everything Microsoft wanted the Xbox One to be originally to what it is now it is by all sense of the term a failure. Not one single "feature" of the original Xbox One vision remains intact. Microsoft has been forced to backpedal on every single vision they had planned.

Jim was quick to admit the need for the Xbox One in the market for the competition (competition is healthy in any market) and he hopes that for the developers' sake (those having games releasing soon) that the Xbox One rebounds.

I'm sorry if anyone is unwilling to listen to Jim all the way through and would rather stick their fingers in their ears and bury their heads in the sand and continue to think Microsoft and the Xbox brand are infallible. No human being or human creation is infallible. The Xbox One still has some strengths left as long as Microsoft can concentrate on making appealing games for everyone and concentrate less on trying to one up Sony (which is a one sided fist fight with Microsoft being the boxer with no arms).

Also people need to remember (aka forgive, but not forget) what Microsoft ATTEMPTED to do to them. You can STILL support Microsoft and the Xbox brand (hell if it has the games you like, more power to you), but don't let Microsoft walk all over you. Don't have blind faith in anything, let alone a freaking gaming console.

Now this goes to anyone (PC-fan, Xbox-fan, Nintendo-fan, or PlayStation-fan), if your choice of console has the games and value to keep you satisfied, then that is all you need -- you do not need to (or should) dictate to others what or why they should own your console of choice. You can tell them why you made your choice, but should also respect their own opinions and choice as well. Remember you can be a fan instead of a fanboy. :)

DragonKnight1124d ago

@GameSpawn: Exactly this. +Bubbles.

I would also like to point out that people don't want to see the fact that Jim stated that he has hopes for the Xbox One's success, and that he's happy that it's now in a better position to compete, but his problem was that MS' original vision was stupid and that it's their own fault that they had to backpeddle, and that he's NOT going to applaud them for finally doing what makes sense and what they should have done from the start.

That's the right attitude. For him, it means that he's going to be extra cautious when it comes to Microsoft's products. It doesn't mean he'll be boycotting them and is telling everyone else to do the same.

Godmars2901124d ago

@Prime157:
While MS's PR might be "the best" the issue is what they try to sell. That with Kinect it was all about "potential" which never manifested as much as it was insisted. Likewise the original DRM policies where more about benefiting MS than the consumer, would and will take years to properly implement, and MS couldn't both see the mistake they were making and the burden they expected people to accept.

baodeus1124d ago

@dragonknight and others

go watch Jim other videos like "always DRM is dumb dumb dumb" or "Xbox one and the end of ownership", what are the things he is complaining about?

1. FORCED kinect (that he doesn't want)
2. He want console to focus on games only, not on other entertainment like TV and such.
3. DRM is dumb (only profit publisher and gamespot, and connection issues)

so now MS reverse all of that:
1. Kinect is optional
2. Gutted the entertainment department (tv exclusive contents) and focus on games instead
3. DRM was dead long before the console was release (24 hrs is dumb, but something like Steam would have work better)

so essentially, MS reverse everything JIM was complaining about and up in arms, with a knife in his hand no less, now he is bi#tchin that they fail to keep their original visions and lies? What does he wants exactly?

You guys don't think JIM has contradicting opinions? For a journalist who contradicting him self, complains about a product, and when they fix it, he complains about why they fixing it, can you really take him seriously?

Perhaps you are right dragonknight when you said Jim represent consumers, particularly consumer on this site, because you guys, just like JIM, don't really know what you want do you?

With that said, I give you guys credit for CONSISTENTLY nurturing hypocrisy and hates on this site. At least you guys are consistent at something, i can't argue with that. It is kinda sad to see n4g thrive on hatred.

anyone want to debate further, you are welcome too. We can debate all day long.

GameSpawn1124d ago (Edited 1124d ago )

@baodeus You completely missed Jim's point. He's not complaining that they left all that stuff out and being hypocritical. He's making a point that from the standpoint that Microsoft had to sacrifice every bit of its original vision (which he still didn't agree with) makes the console a failure - these are facts. The complaint is that Microsoft is not fessing up to those failures and lies and are sweeping it under the rug and Microsoft are touting themselves as heroes -- they are not.

Can Microsoft console still do well? Yes and Jim hopes it does for the sake of the game developers making promising games for it.

Also, you can't complain about Jim's earlier videos (made before Microsoft's reversal announcements) and twist his words around and hold them against him because again those comments about Microsoft's controversial policies were made before Microsoft completely backed out of them.

Take the blinders off. It's all good and well to support a company and it's decisions, just don't do it blindly.

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johndoe112111125d ago

Funny, I've seen a ton of articles by this guy on N4G and never before has he been considered a fanboy "self proclaimed journalist". But I guess it's fitting now that he is criticizing the xbox one right?

thorstein1125d ago

Wrong. He was constantly called out when he was on Destructoid. Just because he moved sites doesn't make him less of a sentationalist.

And if you think I am a fanboy, check my comments back to 2007. Nary a pro xbox comment.

All_Consoles1125d ago

Look at my picture, why would you think what console he's criticizing matters