MWEB GameZone Writes: "The argument between which format dominates the video game industry was reignited last week here on GameZone. Is it PC or Console? PC was award the title. That conclusion is wrong."
Reading about this is starting to feel like a broken record. It's simply really, not one platform is the king, it's about player preference, and no one has to justify why they prefer console or PC, Xbox or PlayStation.
^^This^^ It all boils down to preference. What platform is 'king' depends on what experiences you value. All platforms offer their own unique experiences and it boils down to which one you prefer.
I agree!!! Some people prefer the low powered xbone, a mid powered ps4 or a high powered PC. I preferred the second 2 so I have a PS4 and a PC to give me the max personal gaming experience for me!
^^ And this, ladies and gentleman, sums up what's wrong with the gaming community.
Power has little to do with it DirtyRabbits its all about the games...
Well said, guys, well said. But I wonder if the author of this article is aware of a little known superpower many of us have: The Ability to own a Console AND a PC. And (rather a secondary superpower) the power to play games on (wait for it) BOTH!!!! Dun, Dun DUUUUUUNNNNNNH!!!!
I couldnt agree more, and you have put it right out there. I play on multi platforms, and I love each of them for very different reasons, or genre of games. I have said this many times, for me its the overall experience i gained. I enjoyed The Last of Us immensely, and if I had to buy a console to play it, i would have. I enjoyed CoD4MW(PC) so much that I have mirrored my love for it in every other FPS i have played on PC. I too am tired of the debate as to which is best, because at the end of the day, we will have an opinion (this is an opinion piece after all) about what we love best about the platform we love most.
A lot of people will tell you that it's the combination of their preferred console and a gaming PC that dominates. I see no flaw in that kind of logic as you get the best of both worlds.
I play all multiplayer games on console, unless they are PC exclusive. The built in mechanics for console makes it much easier to get into games together. Also, I'm comparatively better with a controller vs mouse. I would completely agree that it all comes down to preference. A lot might do it completely opposite of me
words of a true gamer.
Best part about these articles is that all of them are implying that real gamers only own one console and bash all the others. Lol if anyone considers themselves a "Real gamer" and only own one brand of console they're not very smart and I don't feel sorry for them.
Not everyone can afford everything. Most people have no alternative but to choose that which will suit their tastes best.
Work extra hours, that's what I did. Lucky though just have bills and no kids yet!
@ Dontoworrybehappy You answered your own question. If you were married with kids, how do you think your wife would react if she asked you to take your overtime to get diapers, formula, and other essentials and you came home with an additional console instead?
@DragonKnight But does that give you the right to bash the others? No, I acknowledge I could've worded my comment better but I think I did well in communicating that bashing other consoles because you only own one is annoying as sin and I hope that people would stop in the future.
PC is superior in hardware terms, but pretty much every multiplat title sells better on consoles.
That's because most don't appeal to PC goers.
Haha by that logic all the people arguing about PS4 having more power than the X1 have no grounds either.
Which is 100% the case, and is 100% true.
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Just because of the headline, it sounds so immature, who is king^^ I really cant take this article serious, because it sounds like it couldve been written by the biggest douche fanboy, not saying that it is, but the articles appeal got totally lost, by this headline^^
In the meantime author doesn't seem to acknowledge that if you have a PC right now then it's okay to wait a bit to jump on xbox one or ps4 right now. As of now there's very little must buy for. Even titanfall is on PC and right now the only games that really display the upgrade are mostly sports games which really isn't enough for me just yet. This article is also weak as heck. Basically saying consoles make more money for developers, which is debatable with advertising and overhead. Not to mention the BS statement making it seem like a 3000 graphics card is needed. A 150-200 card is more powerful than a ps4 and XB1. Ram's easy to match, you can also make a ps4 controller work on a pc. It's arguments just seems like carbon copy of the pc retorts for the last decade.
Cost is a big part of owning a console, so is convenience. The amount of troubleshooting you do for a console is far less. There is that.
Also Sony has some amazing AAA exclusives that I wouldn't want to miss out on.
Been a fan of some MS games also. Forza was a big attraction a while ago, but project cars looks like its worth it.
Sure. I mention Sony exclusives because there have been so many/more of them, and they are generally exclusive to PlayStation platforms. Many MS games are also available on PC so don't factor in to the console vs PC debate ;)
@2.1.2 The issue with that argument is that the best of MS's exclusives are exclusive to their consoles. Good luck playing Halo MCC/5, or Sunset Overdrive, or Scalebound, or Phantom Dust, or Crackdown, (etc.) on PC.
@TheRedButterfly: The games you are talking about are not even out so how can they be the best MS has? Traditionally MS exclusives have often been available on PC also, see Gears, Halo, et al. Crackdown doesn't count as it was lame, though the new one could be good on XB1. My argument stands as it is clear that PS has had many more quality exclusives and they they are mainly only available on the PS platforms ;)
That comment and line of reasoning can be applied to just about any console in history though. So why is it that "gamers" (if we can really call some that) can't just get along & play on their toy of choice without worrying about what the hell everyone else iis playing on & why/how much this toy sold this month or whatever stupidity is constantly being argued over? Because if we did, there wouldn't even be a need or place for articles like the ones that have been popping up like pus filled boils around here & the web.
@fleecejohnson75 I agree with you. Nice to hear a voice of reason. The articles ARE stupid as are the arguments. I generally avoid them, yet somehow here I find myself commenting on one? Guess I should get back to playing Abe new 'n' tasty instead of wasting time here. Happy gaming ;)
Convenience? IS this a real argument? I would expect that you have some sort of education and common sense. It's not that hard.
Convienience is most certainly an argument. There's a large segment of the community that would rather not be bother with keeping up with PC hardware specs, or arranging their entertainment system to work with their computer. They just want the plug and play consoles provide.
Consoles aren't plug and play anymore... You have to update so much now and even update controllers now. Gone are the days that consoles are simply plug and play with no issues. But if you want convenience over robust features and quality then by all means do you thing.
Why is that not a good argument? Isn't this the main reason behind Razer's Project Christine?
@JBSleek: The PS4 and Xbox One update in the background for a lot more than the Xbox 360 or PS3 (especially the PS3) did, so yeah the consoles maintain the plug and play edge. Even factoring in the updates, the difference is still in favor of consoles against PC which still requires more work. Education and common sense don't eliminate everything.
@JBSleek Updates are no where near as inconvenient as some of the things you have to put up with on PC. And, GASP, PC games often need updates to continue to play online, too. Plus, you need to update your drivers every time a new game comes out, especially if you have the "wrong" brand of GPU for that particular title. You need to fiddle with the graphics options, as opposed to consoles, where the game is already optimized. Some games run like crap that shouldn't, no matter what you do with the graphics settings, while other much more demanding games run infinitely better. You deal with cheaters 10 times as often on PC, even on the most moderated games. Consoles are MUCH more convenient than PC.
convenience is a much bigger factor than you realize
Consoles are more convenient but update on PC have been installing and game saves syncing for the longest just because just started seeing it by having to pay doesn't mean its new
PCs have some advantages over Consoles and Consoles have some advantages over PC, below are some unbiased opinions and facts comparing the most relevant differences. The cost of gaming on PC vs Console is basically on par over the span of a couple years give or take, generally more expensive hardware for PCs and more expensive software + monthly fees on Consoles. 3rd party games that are available across all systems are potentially the best on PC. Consoles are far more convenient and streamlined in many ways but you are able to do more things on a PC. PCs have far more variety for controller options (can be a pain to setup) whereas Console games are tailored to work perfectly with there respective controllers (again convenience;) Most PC games can be modded. Local multiplayer is generally much better on Consoles. In regards to online gaming Consoles have parity which is a huge plus but there can be higher player counts on PC which is also a huge plus. If sports games are your thing don't bother with PC, if strategy games are your thing PC is the way to go. PCs are backwards compatible all the way to the inception of gaming and are able to emulate basically every platform except the most recent. Exclusives are the biggest factor in determing which system you will likely own and Wii U, PS4, Xone and PC all have amazing exclusives. (Everybody Wins :) In conclusion the most relevant factor seperating Consoles and PCs seems to be Convienence Vs Openendness...
That's a big, overlooked factor right there. When we're talking value, how much is your gaming time worth? When I used to game on the PC, I spent hours upgrading my hardware, configuring, running updates, configuring controllers, installing, troubleshooting, upgrading drivers...it just seemed never-ending. My gaming time is limited now and when I've got a half hour or hour every couple of days where I can sit down and game, I don't want to spend one second messing around, I want to jump in and game. Even though consoles have updates as well, more often than not I can ignore the updates and still play the game without (or, with PSN+, know that the updates will just self install later). That, to me, makes consoles a greater value to me because they don't require the time commitment in order to play games on the best possible settings for your hardware. But that's me. When I was younger and had nothing but time, I had no problem upgrading my system, overclocking, pushing the hardware. It was a hobby itself. If that's part of the PC appeal for your, more power to you. But it isn't for everyone. I hear PC gamers often saying things like "The reason you don't game on PC is you can't AFFORD it." Well, no...no I can and did for a number of years. I don't game on PC because I choose not to, not that I'm somehow unable to pull it off. And ultimately, it's about the games. For me, PC games simply don't have much appeal to me. Most games I want to play are console exclusives, and for those that aren't the added resolution and framerates just isn't worth the effort involved in PC gaming for me. PC gamers are an easily riled lot and seem like they feel they're constantly under attack...but I have nothing against them. Enjoy your hobby how you want and I'll do the same. It's like sitting down arguing between cars or trucks. No need for pointless arguments.
Excellent points and examples Darkride you basically summed up why Console gaming is awesomely convenient compared to PC gaming its more focused on just getting you in the game...
Eh, cost isn't really a factor. If a gaming PC is your platform of choice you get cheaper games, no online subscription fee. Sure most people opt for PCs that are more expensive than a console, but you dont need to to have a good experience (AND NO you wont need to upgrade every year or even two, or 3,4... Can we let that myth die?). Just do some research instead of parroting what the ignorant internet masses spew, then make your decision. You want to game on a console? Cool that is your choice to make, but don't justify it based soley on misinformation and mistruths - (That is the #1 reason why most PC gamers get really irritated with Console gamers).
Even though the pc market made more money than consoles last year?
I not sure thats true. Can you cite a source, please?
I think he's referring to this one which was posted here a few days back. http://www.forbes.com/sites...
That statement comes with a HUGE asterisk. The PC market has a lot more pay to win games, microtransactions, and other nickel and dime schemes than consoles have. Consoles have their own of course, but they are eclipsed by the numbers that are representative of the PC market. Simply going by broad revenue will likely remain in the PC market's favour for a long time until consoles start ramping up their own schemes.
In terms of software pc have the advange to gain more money than in consoles. The price tag of console software may be higher, but unlike pc, console software can be giving, borrowed and sold to others. When you buy a game for a PC, the game is restrained go that PC.
@Future_2015 How exactly can you get those numbers? the majority of pc's sold are not used for gaming...
pcs are pcs in the end of the day
No graphics card = no games = NOT A GAMING MACHINE Did someone not tell you this is a gaming site? My mobile has more power than most of those word processing and power point presentation crap :P
@djplonker: All PCs have some kind of graphics hardware. All of them. All of them can be used for gaming, the power is irrelevant compared to the use. I have a piece o' crap laptop that can emulate PS1 games pretty well. If I decided to play every single PS1 game I could get my hands on on my laptop, it's then essentially a low end gaming PC.
Those 'numbers' are for JUST the PC gaming hardware market. not the whole PC market mind you.
PC hardware generated more revenue... By nature of it costing more to buy PC hardware. This doesn't really suggest which mode of play is more popular. It just supports what we already knew, PC games spend more on gaming hardware.
That's an often overlooked aspect of this debate. Player and install base makes a big difference. Who cares how many PCs are sold - how many players are there?
Yes this is true. The PC industry brings in more revenue than the console industry. However, as you mentioned this is largely because PC's enjoy spending big bucks on their PC's http://www.forbes.com/sites... That's the article.
different folks, different strokes.
Software piracy is the only thing holding PC gaming back.. Which is why sales always favor the consoles on the big mulitplatform titles.. publishers follow the money as well and that's why they sometimes favor console over PC.. Eg Red Dead redemption Gta 4/5 etc etc
No, it's just most PC goers aren't interested in those types of games; besides that, the advent of Steam has heavily deterred piracy.
It's true, the steps you have to do to get a pirated game to work + that whole world is filled with virus and malware, makes it not worth it. Steam has made PC gaming so much simpler
@andibandit: Umm, it's painfully easy to pirate most games, and going to thepiratebay has mostly clean returns. Example: Say I wanted to pirate Skyrim. I could go to thepiratebay right now and download the Legendary Edition complete with all DLC and the High Res textures and not need Steam to play it. If I wanted to use mods, there's a cracked version of the Nexus Mod Manager on the site too. It requires nothing more than installing the game and the only thing you're missing out on is updates (which get uploaded to the site anyway) and Steam support, which you won't need if you know how to look for answers or ask questions in the right places. Very few games require a lot of work to pirate.
DragonKnight's speaking from experience here.
That and how many times have you read... "I'll just wait for a Steam sale". I'd think twice about launching a game on PC or at least delay it a year like GTA does
Are you kidding me? Developers wait with baited breath for steam sales just like we do. Those steam sales bring in most of the revenue for Developers. There was an article about a dev's profit increasing 5 fold (or something like that) due to a steam sale.
I built my PC rig from scratch last year. And it took me 2 months to figure out how easy it was to pirate PC games. Heck, I didnt even need to spend $100 on purchasing the windows OS. Steam sales are fine and I admit that they're quite awesome but these games dont drop in price as everyone thinks they do. You'll wait an upwards of a year for a newly released games to hit $30-$40..
haha so that justifies theft?
Not if you know where to look. Greenmangaming, Good old games, Amazon, Humble bundle, etc. I have spent less than 30 on almost every AAA game purchase I have made in the past 2 years.
LOL PC nobleman = amazing hygiene????