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Submitted by Rashid Sayed 61d ago | news

PS4's GPU Is A Beast of A Processor, API Is Strong And Straight Forward

Sony have been secretive regarding the actual specifications of the PlayStation 4. There are many parameters that Sony haven't revealed publicly and it looks like that won't change in the future. (PS4)

JBSleek  +   61d ago
Definitely wouldn't call it a beast, a little hyperbole but it is a very capable processor.
Ezz2013  +   61d ago | Well said
i think it's pretty clear that they are talking about consoles
when they are saying Ps4 GPU is beast compared to the GPUs on other consoles

EDIT: @JBSleek
No, i think it's pretty clear they are talking about consoles only
since they can't say Ps4 GPU is a Beast if they were talking about consoles and PCs in general
it wouldn't even make sense
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JBSleek  +   61d ago
Even if that was the case calling the PS4 GPU a beast is still hyperbole. If he was referring to it's the best on consoles then clearly yes. But certainly wouldn't call it a beast.

Also not once in the article was there a comparison so I think it's a long shot saying it's pretty clear they were talking about consoles.
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johndoe11211  +   61d ago | Well said
@Ezz2013

Oh, don't worry, he is very aware of that, but if he was to say anything different i`t would go against his normal agenda of downplaying consoles as much as possible and painting the pc as the master race. He's very very subtle with it.

O.T.

After watching the first party games that have been released and will be releasing on the ps4 I highly doubt anyone will disagree that it is extremely capable and was very well designed. As far as consoles go, it is a beast.
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loulou  +   61d ago
Its one of gamingbolts wrote for n4g trash articles. A hyperbole title is to be expected...

Gamingbolt, dualshockers, gamepur and all the other hit leech bloggers should be banned!!

But then blogs4fanboys would actually have to have some real news..
elmaton98  +   61d ago
Shit, I like gaming on PC as I get a better quality in graphics but man is expensive. I just bought a 770 gtx and is still not enough to run watchdog on ultra, it is very unoptimized.
extermin8or  +   61d ago
Well arguably his statement could be talking in general but be refferring to the price bracket. Most likely he was just talking in console terms in the same way as I might say the cpu inside a galaxy s5 is a beast of a cpu-well in mobike terms the 2.5ghz quad core cpu's are some of the best however compare it to a pc or laptop cpu and its a different story...
Daniel_Potter  +   60d ago
I doubt you can call your GPU beast, when a mid range GPU that came out the same year can beat you (750)
Or when a 5 year old high end card beats you (480)
JBSleek  +   61d ago
Sigh... I made a simple true statement and people think I have other motives. I even said it's a capable processor.

@Utalkin2me

Absolutely false. I praise all systems and critique all systems. I'm sorry I'm not some monkey who supports everything Sony does but don't act like I don't critique Xbox One. Look at my comment history. I say everyone should own all consoles.

Also I never said the GPU isn't the strongest of the consoles... I simply said a low mid range card shouldn't be considered a beast. No matter if it's the strongest of the weak consoles.
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Utalkin2me  +   61d ago | Well said
Well considering you downplay in every Sony article and praise all Xbox1 articles. What are people suppose to think.

But anyways, the GPU is by far the strongest of the consoles.
funkybudda  +   61d ago
"beast" and "capable" is not exactly interchangeable in definition especially when referring to computer hardware performance. Nice try tho...
BVFTW  +   61d ago
The PS4 gpu is the best one among consoles and a very capable chip in general, but compared to some mid to high end dedicated hardware out there it is not a beast, not a slouch alas nothing out of the spectrum either. I agree with you JB on this hardware matter but you must know by now that some people are just on a crusade to downplay whatever platform they don't support and even though you are talking about hardware there will always come a brainwashed brand acolyte to talk you about a exclusive as the alpha and omega of gaming trying to downplay your opinion. The real alpha an omega in the "software" matter is to be able to enjoy a full dinner in my POV.
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MysticStrummer  +   61d ago | Well said
"Sigh... I made a simple true statement and people think I have other motives."

They probably recognized your name and know your pattern.

Just guessing.
disKinected  +   61d ago
@Utalkin2me

Well said mate. He wouldn't have talked like this if this would have been mentioned about xbox GPU.
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JackBNimble  +   61d ago
sinspirit

You didn't answer my question. "Where did John Carmack ever compare the ps4 gpu to the 7970?

Do you really believe that a gpu with 1.84 teraflops ,no matter how optimised it is, is comparable to one that is 3.79 teraflops?

PS4 is a powerful console but lets not kid ourselves here. These claims are just as bad as the XO and the power of the cloud or dx12.

EDIT: oops ... commented in the wrong spot.
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nycgamer4ever  +   61d ago
@JBSleek

You MUST know by now that no one cares or asked for your always one sided negative opinions so why do you keep offering it up?

Do YOU own all consoles? Cause if not just saying "everyone should own all consoles" is just a copout and excuse to try and look unbiased when you offer up your often times biased opinions.

Maybe if you weren't negative all the time and sounding like a hater maybe people would take your comments more seriously
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ShinMaster  +   61d ago
It's not even low-mid range.

I think your motives have been pretty clear every time you pop up in an article discussing graphics and consoles.
Kavorklestein  +   60d ago
@nycgamer4ever
Maybe because nobody has to agree or disagree with what he says, for him to have the right to say it?

Most people sound like haters when they are talking about a console that is NOT their console of choice, including PS4 owners. It's just the way it is.

The key to being non biased is giving credit where it is due, whether or NOT you have a preference, and JBSleek DID that. He almost always does that.

This article is not un-warranted, the PS4 is great machine, but so are the other consoles, and so are pcs. Not worshiping a certain console/PC and sucking it's dick doesn't automatically discredit or invalidate people's knowledge, opinions or preferences. TBH, It seems like Nintendo and Microsoft fans have that rule of thumb understood, it's Sony fans, however, who typically have no humility, and split hairs, change subjects, digress, shift goal posts, underrate the competition, even though they just BARELY got done being the underdog with the PS3.
It's time that we as a whole had constructive debates about possibilities or things we are excited for, it's time to stop debating who's console has more potential power.
It's common knowledge, and regardless of performance, people will always have their preferences.

It seem to me, that people of all fanboy factions have accepted that the PS4 is the fastest console right now.

NOW it's time for the Sony fanboy faction to ACCEPT that some people STILL don't care.

Disagreeing with opinions that are pro Xbox, just BECAUSE they are pro Xbox is stupid.

Disagreeing with opinions JUST because they are Pro Sony is also stupid.

Take the time to see where somebody is coming from, and then, if people are saying things like "Xbox is da faztezt" then go ahead and disagree. But unless it's stated as a fact, and unless it's not accurate, there is no reason to disagree in most cases.

I mean, yeah people are free to click whatever they want, and disagree with whatever they want, but it's getting a little too bitchy at this point. When you see a comment in almost every single article, every single day, that says:

"I have a PS4, and an Xbox one, and I still like my Xbox one." with 250 disagrees, OR

"I have an xbox one, and I plan on getting a PS4" with 1,127 disagrees, that's just a glimpse at the maturity levels of people on this site.

I mean, yeah, let's talk, let's all debate, let's weigh out pro's and con's but let's not be so arrogant that unless people think like we do, or play what we play, or like what we like, that they deserve some kind of reprimand.

In Fact, if people attack like rabid dogs when there is no reason for it, THAT is when people deserve reprimand or a "internet flogging"

Let's all just grow up, ESPECIALLY if we intend on attracting fellow gamers to our console of choice.
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tee_bag242  +   60d ago
Your only allows to advocate PS4 here, not all console.
PS4.. yes yes it's a supercomputer. Easily capable of 1080p 60fps.
TheTwelve  +   61d ago | Funny
Apparently, the word "beast" is copyrighted by PC owners. I didn't know that.
Imalwaysright  +   61d ago
PS4 is outperformed by a GTX 480 which is a 4 year old card. If "beast" is the word used to describe PS4 GPU, what word should be used to describe the Titan, GTX 780TI or the R9 290x?
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dboyman  +   61d ago
@Imalwaysright Superbeast?!
sinspirit  +   61d ago | Interesting
@Imalwaysright

Wrong. The PS4 GPU has a low level API, less bloated OS, and the one set of specifications for developers to optimize for.

John Carmack, a legend in the first person video game genre, says that the performance is potentially double of what a PC equivalent would be.

https://twitter.com/ID_AA_C...

So, basically he says the PS4 is high end, comparable to a 7970. Of course it will take experience to get that performance out of it. Don't forget that the RAM is completely video graphics focused, and is great for graphic quality and framerate performance.
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JackBNimble  +   61d ago
sinspirit

"So, basically he says the PS4 is high end, comparable to a 7970".

Oh really? Where did he ever compare the ps4 gpu to the 7970? That's one of the top high end gpu's from amd. The best you can say is it's comparable to the 7850 (which isn't bad at all IMO) not even close to the 7970.
sinspirit  +   61d ago
@JackBNimble

Did you read ANY of my comment or John Carmacks comment?

The PS4 GPU is 1.84 teraflops, directly compared to a 7850. But, because of the capabilities of actually getting more out of the hardware because of optimization and low level API you can get essentially twice the performance of the PC equivalent, in other words, the PC equivalent in teraflop performance needs to be twice that teraflop performance in order to be comparable to the console equivalent in terms of realistic potential.

This doesn't mean that the PS4 GPU actually gets twice the reported teraflops. This means what it can actually deliver in a real world demonstration is far more than the PC equivalent and is roughly comparable to what a 7970 can actually do in games for PC.
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uth11  +   61d ago
@sinspirit

That's what the PC types never grasp- How much the performance of the PC is held back by Windows, high-level API abstraction and hardware fragmentation. That limits the amount of optimization developers can do.

Consoles will outperform PCs in the same hardware class
JackBNimble  +   61d ago
uth11

You're correct when you say "Consoles will outperform PCs in the same hardware class".

The PS4 how ever, is not in the same class as the 7970, it is in the same class as the 7850 which it may or may not out preform that. I would like to see some bench marks to prove these claims.

sinspirit
"This doesn't mean that the PS4 GPU actually gets twice the reported teraflops. This means what it can actually deliver in a real world demonstration is far more than the PC equivalent and is roughly comparable to what a 7970 can actually do in games for PC".

You contradict yourself with this statement.
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Imalwaysright  +   61d ago
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nycgamer4ever  +   61d ago
@imalwayswrong

Show us a game on pc running on the GTX480 that looks better than Driveclub, The Order and Uncharted and infamous SS.

I want receipts bro!

Do you guys play games or just play gpus?
starchild  +   60d ago
Both my GTX 770 and HD 7950 outperform my PS4 in multiplatform games and neither of them are double the performance of the PS4's GPU. These are real-world results, not hypothetical estimations.
sinspirit  +   60d ago
@JackBNimble

No. You just don't know what you're talking about.

TFlop performance is a cards max potential. They don't measure this on Windows, so it's not like TFlop performance is accurately measured on the OS that is holding the cards back. While a 7970 on a PC won't get near it's max performance, the PS4 GPU will. When John Carmack, extremely smarter than you, says the PS4 GPU essentially gets twice the performance of the PC hardware equivalent, it's more accurate to say that the PC hardward equivalent merely gets half its potential performance.

@Imalwaysright

That video is Linus' piss poorest video. I love the guy and I follow videos every time he posts one but that video was extremely not thought out. Watch Dogs is a terrible port on PC, and they assumed this didn't mean laziness on consoles, while PS4 has substantially better looking games running better already on the hardware than Watchdogs.

@starchild

And, those multiplatform games don't even run on the console as well as the PC equivalents. The 6870 I used to have could play BF3 on max settings at 1600x900, that's only because I didn't have a 1080p screen. I see videos of others playing it at 1080p no problem. You can't just compare multiplatform games right away, considering how some actually are performing worse than a PC hardware equivalent right now, and exclusives look miles better and perform better and are better representations of console performance.
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Mithan  +   61d ago
He was referring to consoles. We all know the gpu is weak when compared to a PC, but it is the best available for consoles.
dmitrijs88  +   61d ago
for a console its beastly.
showtimefolks  +   60d ago
i am glad i is because xbox one is having issues achieving 1080P/60FPS on a HD collection(metro redux)

also its funny when someone is talking about ps4's gpu yet pc gamers coming in claiming their PC's are better. This is a console article, talking about consoles.
TheSaint  +   60d ago
Get over it and go back to playing your PC.
LightDiego  +   60d ago
This guy again, lmao, get a life!
Keep your PC agenda to you.
mixolydian_id  +   60d ago
It's great they managed to sit semi capable GPU and CPU's on the same chip. Even if at a low clocking speed.

SOC's have come a long way. I guess the most limiting factor is that they were being used primarily for phones and tablets where battery life was an issue.

I still wish it was a bit more straightforward getting accurate benchmarks for both consoles. API's allow for better use of the tools available and the more streamlined these are in future, the better overall games will be released.

I wonder when the next cloud reveal will be available and whether game methodology like Titanfall/Crackdown will be able to be incorporated onto PS4 too?

Does anyone know if PSN uses dedicated servers in games like BF4?
XtraTrstrL  +   60d ago
Well, to be fair, it does have a few advancements over PCs right now. It is using GDDR5 ram unified for the APU, rather than DDR3 + GDDR5 only for GPU. Once devs start going more into GPGPU compute for everything, it's gonna be hard to just use raw numbers to compare the PS4's APU to any PC GPU of the same shader count/tflops. It doesn't compare to a low-end PC in results at all, it compares to a mid-range to high-range PC and will continue to stay in that mid-high range. Devs like Naughty Dog will keep the comparisons to high-end PCs going, as they show the proper way to optimize for the hardware.
hkgamer  +   60d ago
Simon Bennett called it a "beasty processor", he didn't call it a beast, or even a beast of a processor. The article paraphrased it which took it out of the context.
XiSasukeUchiha  +   61d ago
Thanks Sony for this information, oops I forget it's gamebolt sigh, but still thanks for the info!
MegaRay  +   61d ago
Man, You're one hour late -.-
patrik23  +   61d ago
yes. The most powerful console ever created. No wonder all multiplats perform better on PS4:

Diablo 3 running at 900p on Xbox One; PS4 version locked at 1080p

Confirmed: Watch Dogs PS4 900p, Xbox One 792p, both 30fps

Trials Fusion: PS4 runs at 1080p, Xbox One at 900p

Metal Gear Solid 5 runs at 1080p on PS4, limited to 720p on Xbox One

Plants Vs Zombies: Garden Warfare Is 900p, 60fps On Xbox One

Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare at 1080p 60fps confirmed for PS4 in August
Volkama  +   61d ago
I love lamp.
Holeran  +   61d ago
LOUD NOISES!
Kribwalker  +   61d ago
Here's Patrick again, spewing the same crap over and over, copy and pasting everytime , I think I got like 6 different PMs from him saying the same thing lol
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extermin8or  +   61d ago
Watch dogs is abit of an optimization mess on all platforms isnt it? I meannif mgs5 is running 1080p at 60fps on ps4 with those graphocs and even managing 30fps and 720p on ps3 how the hell cab watch dogs bot make 1080p...
nycgamer4ever  +   61d ago
Sorry wrong post.
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Jihaad_cpt  +   61d ago
It's not about the size of the boat but rather the motion in the ocean
Zenith4k  +   61d ago
Ah but the better built boats tend to survive bigger waves ;)
Utalkin2me  +   61d ago
Yeah but it would take a long time to cross the ocean in a rowboat.
extermin8or  +   61d ago
Not if the rowing motion was massive and moving back at sport at an insanely fast speed...
funkybudda  +   61d ago
Kinect has been removed from Xbox Done SKUs, so motion is dead. Nice try...
Hanuman  +   61d ago
I'm confused... Who's going where and why is a boat the vessel of choice?
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extermin8or  +   61d ago
@hanuman lol last geb consoles for bur I al at sea :p
TheBoy  +   61d ago
PS4's GPU is less powerful than a $150 GTX 750Ti, hardly call it a beast, low to mid range is what I'd call it.
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JBSleek  +   61d ago
I'd call it lower mid range card at best. Yet at this junction of PC hardware that isn't too bad.
TheBoy  +   61d ago
Didn't say it was bad, just that the GPU inside the PS4 would be classified as low to mid range in PC hardware terms.
funkybudda  +   61d ago
two different categories here, consoles vs PC. It's like comparing car engines, you cant exactly compare regular cars' engine to that of racing cars, the target audience is entirely different.
MasterCornholio  +   61d ago
With that I'm pretty impressed with what they have been able to achieve on the console. Games like Uncharted 4, Infamous Second Son and The Order look fantastic in my opinion.
Utalkin2me  +   61d ago
@Theboy

1080p Benchmarks

GTX 750 Ti Benchmarks

COD:Ghost 36fps
Tomb Raider 17fps
Assassins Creed BF 21fps
Battlefield 4 31fps

Best scores are bolded. Our test bed is a 3.3GHz Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition in an Asus Rampage Extreme IV motherboard with 16GB of DDR3/1600 memory and a Thermaltake ToughPower 1,050w PSU. The OS is Windows 8 64-bit Enterprise.

So in conclusion it is not comparable to the PS4 GPU, cause it shows it is under performing on very high end PC parts. Test was done on maximumPC website.
wtopez  +   61d ago
You left out the "All games run at 1920x1080 with maximum settings and 4X AA except for 3DMark" part. The PS4 won't run those games on the equivalent of Ultra AND with 4x MSAA on. Turn the 4x MSAA off and go from Ultra to High on Battlefield 4 and you'll easily get 70+ FPS on a 750 Ti. This is from personal experience.
AnteCash  +   61d ago
No ,
750 Ti is 1.72 tlops , memory bandwidth 86.4 GB/s, 16 ROPs, pixel rate 16.32 GPixel/s ,40 texture mapping units.
Ps4 gpu is 1.84 tflops memory bandwidth 176 Gb/s , 32 ROPs ,pixel rate 25.6 GPix/s, 72 texture mapping units,Compute on ps4 gpu is as powerful as that on R9 290.

So you see the gpu in ps4 is no slouch.

I see you have a internet connection , why don't you use it and seek the right info.
The_HarryEtTubMan  +   60d ago
PS4 GPU isn't 1.84 Teraflops who are you kidding?
callahan09  +   60d ago
@The_HarryEtTubMan:

http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

It's a well-known fact that the PS4 GPU is 1.84 TFLOPS.
Platinum_k  +   61d ago
Yeah, I'de stay away from all this PC comparison.

It seems every damn PC gamers try to compare a PC to a console.

You would have to be out of your mind to compare something like that.
TheBoy  +   60d ago
Why? The PS4 is essentially a PC, it's x86 architecture, the components inside the console can be compared to low to mid range PC hardware because that's exactly what a PS4 is, a low to mid range PC.
insomnium2  +   60d ago
@theboy

No it's not in a developement sense. You are just trying to paint the entire picture with only one colour here.

Please read up on optimizing games on consoles vs PC and educate yourself a little.
Platinum_k  +   60d ago
Yes, PS4 is bascially a PC, but less powerful and it's different...

I'm starting to think you have never owned a console. Get one, and Only then you would know NOT to compare these 2 Computer systems.

It's like trying to compare a MOTORCYCLE to a CAR!!!
They have the same functions of transportation, but they are also completely different.
Bizzare21  +   61d ago
Calling the PS4's GPU a "beast" is an overstatement.
stragomccloud  +   61d ago
Well, it's a beast compared to last gen for sure! But then, so are all of the other current gen consoles.
WildDonkey  +   61d ago
Seems to me that N4G links to any article that paints Xbox One in a bad light and any article that praises the PS4 no matter how ridiculous said article may be.
kingdom18  +   61d ago
Please, aside from opinion articles the Xbox One has been in a good light as of late aside from the announcement that their Entertainment Studios are being closed.
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johndoe11211  +   61d ago
All N4G articles are submitted by the users such as yourself. If you have an issue with the articles then I suggest you write a disgruntled letter to every N4G user so that we can ignore it and move on. If you decide not to, then you are free to leave the site, no one is forcing you to be here.
lnfiniteLoop  +   61d ago
a console dosnt really have to go any better than 1080p as most peoples TV's are 1080p capable... (apart from the very few in comparison that have 4K TV's)... as for FPS anything upto 60fps is just fine and dandy...

yes we all know you can get a PC to do higher res and fps but who really cares when playing a console on a TV...
JBSleek  +   61d ago
There is so much more to graphics then resolution and frame rates. AI, lighting, tessellation, physics, antialiasing, etc. Which all benefit from a better GPU.

You can have a crappy looking 1080p game.
nycgamer4ever  +   61d ago
Yeah and there is also so much more to a game than just Resolution frame rates, AI, lighting, tessellation, physics, antialiasing, etc. There has been plenty of great look, complete shit games.

Do you guys even play games? Or just play gpus?
Nine_Thousaaandd  +   61d ago
When we're talking about consoles only, their GPU is a beast! Leave PC out of the equation...it's not fair to PS4 or Xbox One, we all know a kick ass PC will destroy both systems without even trying.

If a developer decides to go all out on GPU compute on console, that leaves out a version for both Xbox One and Wii U...PS4's GPU is a beast when comparing consoles only!
kingdom18  +   61d ago
Here comes every PC gamer mentioning some other GPU when this is clearly about consoles, as it would such a foolish statement to make otherwise in a different context.
WafflesID  +   61d ago
Ugh. Listening to some of you fucking people.

Yeah, OF COURSE there is more powerful hardware out there. But you have to pay more.

"Man, that new Camero is a beast"

"BAH. Bugatti Veyron is faster!"
JediDiah  +   61d ago
PS4 is ok but the graphcs crown stays with PC master race.
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Hellsvacancy  +   61d ago
JediDiah AKA Mr Obvious.......

Too bad most of your games suck, i'd much rather have jaggy low res versions of Red Dead Redemption, Metal Gear Solid 4, Demons's Souls, Last Of Us over Crysis with MAXED OUT UBER GRAPHICS

Take Skyrim for example, yeah it "looks" AWESOME on the PC, but the clunky boring combat (that is the same across all platforms) killed any fun I had in the game, better graphics does not equal a better game
JBSleek  +   61d ago
This argument is shit. You act as if there isn't crappy console games and great PC games.

For every great console game you can name I can name crappy ones and the same on PC.
The_HarryEtTubMan  +   61d ago
http://i.imgur.com/0vz5Lcg....

Console gamers are so clueless. Go to Twitch.tv and look a all the most watched games and exclusives. OMG they're all PC! No one's playing The Last of Us and MGS4 anymore, those games get boring in a week or so.

You are so clueless about PC gaming dude, bringing up Crysis. And the funny thing is way more people are on PC than consoles now. You think they are all on Crysis? Log into Steam, noob. Or just stay on inferior PSN and stfu.
JediDiah  +   61d ago
Amen
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Hellsvacancy  +   61d ago
JBSleek, you're on my ignore list buddy so you're wasting your time

The_HarryEtTubMan, so I go to Twitch and what do I see? a load of games I wouldn't play if someone paid me, maybe with the exception of Starcraft 2 (that I do actually play) and Arma 3, most of the other games are just meh, IF I wanted them that badly I would buy a PC, it's not like i'm poor
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sorane  +   61d ago
I'd have quit gaming years ago if all I had to play was third person action games. I need variety and innovation in my life. Two words that haven't existed in the console realm in over a decade.
TheDevKit  +   61d ago
You realize you can mod the combat in Skyrim, right?
nycgamer4ever  +   61d ago
What is wrong with you PC fanatics? Why can't you just understand that people who have consoles CAN and DO have gaming pcs also?!

I have a gaming pc and a ps4 and have lots of games for both. Last gen I gamed on both but a lot of multiplatform games I bought on pc because the gap was bigger.

This gen the consoles are much stronger and because of the similar architecture to the pc you can bet your ass lots of pc games will come to consoles, as this gen is already showing.

Unless you are spending a lot of money on your pc PLUS a monitor with resolution over 1080p the difference is not going to be night and day.

Because of the way the consoles are designed and closed I would venture to say that the first party games will look better than games on the pc for the first couple of years.

Overall it's good to be a gamer for both platforms at the moment. If you want the uber graphics you have the options to spend on pc. If you want great graphics you can stick to consoles. What is wrong with that?

Of course all of this is IMO.
BVFTW  +   61d ago
@nycgamer4ever
You made a good point but I'll extend that to establish my own points, the worse fanatics are the "brand sheep gamers" which loyalty blinds them to other people opinions or mock someone's choice, some console gamers have fallen to the stupid console war marketing bull and some PC gamers have also take the bait and try to diminish their console brothers choice as well as shielding in arguments of "hypocrisy" because console gamers like to call the performance card among their brethren or the exclusives card when this doesn't work (that all standing platforms have its share) people can have their opinions on which is best, if someone ask me for the best console to play their games on then I encorage them to look for the exclusive you like the most because the hardware performance difference is not that big for mp games, a console also saves you the hassle of building and mantaining a machine (that is not very difficult to do by the way, but to each their own) but if you want the best version of multiplatform games go for a pc and with some knowledge and the right investment through that 7 or 8 year cycle, before the next consoles hit the road, you'll have the better performing machine without braking the bank (not to mention it has some good exclusives too). FOR ME IS BETTER TO GAME IN BOTH WORLDS. Now, about the article, the ps4 gpu is not a beast "in my opinion" but is a raelly great chip and talented developers will have amazing results with it, I'm looking foward for those amazing exclusives!
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Hanuman  +   61d ago
The "PC master race" line was born out of sarcasm you know.
D3ATH_DRIV3R_777  +   61d ago
And here comes the PC elitists with their trolling rants, and Jedi Diah is is another one.
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JediDiah  +   61d ago
Blind devotion to graphics rather than games...you should get out more. Graphics being sooooo inportant to always hurl insults at others to stick out your chest is too funny!
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Dehnus  +   61d ago
And AGAIN A MISQUOTE! More and more are developpers trying to get away from journalists or give straight answers thanks to these kind of click baiting arseholes!

He said “It’s a pretty beasty processor – I reckon it will hold its own.”

He never said "IT IS A BEAST!" The intonation is very different in what it suggests. He likes it sure, but he never was "OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!" while running in circles and waving his hands.
Macdaddy71  +   61d ago
Why does it even matter???? It's to late to change anything, just buy the games they make for ps4 n X1 and play them, it's all bout Games Games n more Games...this crap does not matter in anyway to gamers, nothing we can do bout it if it had the guts out of the ps1.... Damn we need the consoles so we all need to stop n just play games
MegaDan  +   61d ago
It sure as hell does matter, i guarantee you if the XB1 was more powerful than the ps4 all you xbox fanboys would be boasting & bashing sony just like y'all did last Gen.
disKinected  +   61d ago
So true. Since the competition is stronger, graphics doesn't matter. Loool.
Predaking77  +   61d ago
As far as I know, the PS4 is a console. Why it is being compared to a PC? Looks like PC owners have some inferiority feeling or something like that.

The PS4 is a beast in his category and that category is CONSOLES.

Enough said.
Nintendo4Life85  +   61d ago
I don't care about how beast PS4 CPU is or how it does 1080p 60fps easily, i want games i want new ip's along with old classic ip's redone, come on Sony wheres that Jax and Daxter, Rachet n Clank, bring back some old classics like Syphon Filter etc. i wanna hear about games not specs.
mysteryraz11  +   61d ago
Its performace wiill improve, ps4 has long way to go to reach its full potential, pc gami g is lame uc4 and order1886 blow all pc games out of the water
kingduqc  +   61d ago
"beast" is slower then my 2 year old "average" GPU so meh
tee_bag242  +   61d ago
Is a 2 year old 7970m. Nothing beast about a 2 year old high end laptop GPU.
TheEternalGamer  +   61d ago
Told you Xbox Gamers. PlayStation 4 has always had the strongest processor but you guys never listen do y'all? Y'all continue to down play the hardware delude yourselves with stupid retard magical things like "THE CLOUD" "DIRECTX12" "ESRAM" LMAO! Xbox One is weak as hell so don't go their. Phil Spencer even stated Direct X12 will not be a major help to the Xbox One. He even stated it about The Cloud. so get over it. Xbox One will NOT be more powerful or at the same power as the PlayStation 4 its not even at the same power as the PlayStation 3! LOL! i wouldn't be surprised if that piece of garbage was at the same graphical level as the PS1 and PS2. The only difference is PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 will always be better then the Xbox One, Xbox 360, and Original Xbox. Xbox is garbage. Get over it. Stop crying.
Let the disagrees and the butthurt replies be never ending. LMAO!
Hanuman  +   61d ago
Why do you still have three bubbles? The fact that you get so worked up over hardware makes me think you have other problems. PM me and we'll talk about it. I'm guessing a bowel obstruction of some sort and laughing your ass off isn't going to solve the issue.
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MeliMel  +   60d ago
Oh my Lord......you must walk around with a doggy bag all that shit you talking. I think its obvious PS4 has a beast GPU in comparison to other console.

No need for all the extra hate.
TheEternalGamer  +   60d ago
well Xbox Fanboys get to use extra hate for the PS4? Why can't it? #YouHypocrite
jujubee88  +   61d ago
ojipojij
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Artemidorus  +   60d ago
"PS4's GPU Is A Beast of A Processor" Someone needs to show this guy a PC. Might end up having a stroke at the end of it.

1.8 T(FLOPS) indeed.
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Father__Merrin  +   60d ago
still can't find anything on steam that looks as good as infamous,
FayZ_  +   60d ago
a 1.84 tflops ain't a 'beast' the ps4 is just a 'beast' to develop on.

and to the sony n4g fans, make sure you remember how awful ps3 development was & how power isn't everything with ps1 & ps2.

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