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Submitted by Rearden 128d ago | opinion piece

Is Sony’s “Killzone Fart” pack taking DLC too far?

PS4Daily: "Is asking players to fork up $2 to fart in multiplayer taking things too far?" (Industry, Killzone: Shadow Fall, PS4, Sony)

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Fireseed  +   129d ago
I think someone forgot games were supposed to be about fun. Fun, remember that thing?
Abash  +   129d ago
The DLC was made in the same spirit as teabagging a player in an online match. I really dont think it's a big deal or worth writing an article about
GribbleGrunger  +   128d ago
Do you remember when gaming was all about FUN? Wasn't it a great time ...

@Logic: I currently volunteer for a charity organisation (in Britain) that caters to people with problems ... REAL problems. I LOVE gaming and I love gamers (especially on N4Gs and Gaf) but perspective is, and should be, my prerogative.

What is a fart in a game compared to a cruelly oppressed individual?
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Rowdius_Maximus  +   128d ago
No! Didn't you hear, smelling farts can prevent disease like cancer. In game you're doing them a favor
LOGICWINS  +   128d ago
Well, actually that is a big deal. It shows how out of touch Sony is with their audience. Immaturity has always been a huge issue in online gaming, yet Sony wants to encourage it. I see that as a problem personally.
LOGICWINS  +   128d ago
"What is a fart in a game compared to a cruelly oppressed individual?"

240 kids died of malnourishment in the past hour

2000 kids died yesterday due to consumption of contaminated water

What is gaming compared to these tragedies? Nothing....absolutely nothing.

Its great that you volunteer to help people with real problems, but that doesn't mean we don't get to bitch about smaller problems:

Sony's reluctance to give the PS Vita any AAA Western exclusives

The Xbox One's issue with supporting higher resolutions

The sexist nature of the hardcore fighting game community.

If you're THAT concerned about people with REAL problems, you shouldn't be on a gaming website defending the right of Playstation gamers to purchase virtual farts.
mezati99  +   128d ago
@LOGICWINS

GTFO
GribbleGrunger  +   128d ago
You are right, Logic, and perhaps I shouldn't have brought two worlds together so flippantly, but at the end of the day, perspective isn't a bad thing ... is it?

We are debating the most mundane and pathetic thing here ... It's not your fault, it's the fault of journalists with a complete lack of imagination.

We are debating a FART ... COME ON!
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XisThatKid  +   128d ago
I personally do not enjoy toilet humor but all in all whats really the difference in a dance to a "teabag" or now a fart? Uncharted 3's taunts really showed me that people like customizations and taunts and show off stuff like this. If you don't like the optional animation and effect don't buy it and WIN YOUR MATCHES to not see them in these games. It maybe harsh but I am a competitive player and I play competitive games.

I also understand that dev has gotten expensive why not make a bit of money on all sorts of appeal alike? Yes DLC has gotten out of hand at times but in this case, NO. Season pass has paid for itself and GG has given us several free maps already. I have no complaints besides no Official 12v12 or 8v8 TDM or any other warzone that has smaller player count than 24, and that doesn't REALLY bother me just a preference.
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mydyingparadiselost  +   128d ago
I don't recall having to pay for the option to teabag though...
LOGICWINS  +   128d ago
Gribble, if this was Saints Row DLC, I wouldn't have an issue. But Shadowfall is arguably the most serious entry in the franchise. Farts just don't fit the tone of the game. To SOME people, what makes Killzone fun is its mature nature(sense of weight, guns that sound like ACTUAL guns, brutal melee etc.).
Locknuts  +   128d ago
Or worth paying for. It should just be patched in if people want it.
GribbleGrunger  +   128d ago
Logic: I'm not questioning that ... I completely understand where you are coming from. What we have here is a business, and a product that has been on the market for a year.

As much as I recognise the lowest common denominator, I also recognise the need to squeeze every damned Cent from a transaction. If it's fun and people invest, GREAT. If it isn't fun and people don't invest then 'SO WHAT'.
rambi80  +   128d ago
I wonder what the price would be for "cleveland steamer" DLC

Now THAT would be worth writing about
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Giul_Xainx  +   128d ago
This sort of crap belongs in call of duty. And only call of duty.

Where all of the incandescent gamers play.
Double Toasted  +   128d ago
Ugh...I've never paid for a tea bag in a video game, nor in real life- minus the type that makes a beverage. I be read the article after reading the comments aaannndddd...there should be a giant face palm in between my comment and the first one.
JoGam  +   128d ago
Cmon LOGICWINS, Just STOP!
badz149  +   128d ago
I'm not defending the fart DLC as per say but WTF is wrong with you people trying way too hard to hate on it? so what if it doesn't really fit the tone of the game?

does the mercedes kart really blend well with Mario Kart? I don't think so but I don't see people making an article bashing it. and teabagging doesn't fit in any FPS at all as it's stupid but people still do it because it's fun. remember dancing in SOCOM? does that fit the mood of the game? and while we are at it, why don't we bash Turn10 as well because how dare they include rewind in a SIM racer! my point is, why so serious? as long as the gameplay in unaffected, what is the problem?

when I play KZSF and other online games, and people laugh all the time over failing friends and funny ways of dying. so...damn them? how dare they laugh on a "serious" game? people net to get over the fact that even some things are not funny to you it does for others.
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DAS692  +   128d ago
@Abash
EXACTLY. Now... Where's the article about "Weed Prints On Guns." and "Snoop Dogg/Lion Voice Packs"??
SilentNegotiator  +   128d ago
It's something they added several months after release of the game, when probably 85% of the sales have already happened. You're not entitled to add-on content.

It's $2. A couple of gumballs worth of money for something that won't affect the gameplay in any substantial way. Buy it or don't, it won't have any earth shattering effects on your life.
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SilentNegotiator  +   128d ago
@Logicless
"Gribble, if this was Saints Row DLC, I wouldn't have an issue"

Of course you wouldn't. Saints Row isn't a PS exclusive. As for it not fitting the tone of the game...we're talking about multiplayer. The people on their mics will ruin the tone anyway.
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UltraNova  +   128d ago
@SilentNegotiator

you beat me to it. Ok lest assume Farts in a game is the most offending matter in human history...when thousands scream, abuse and spew bullshit through their mics online is cool right?

But yeah lets focus on the really SERIOUS matter here, farts.
Septic  +   128d ago
Does this even matter? Who still plays this online? Garbage dlc for what is, in my opinion, a mediocre game.
JackBNimble  +   128d ago
What I can't believe is this article made it to the front page and is 480 degrees as I write this.

How is this even a debate?
Jonny5isalive  +   128d ago
the DLC was made in the spirit of the weed DLC for COD. SOmething so stupid that should be free sold at a small price to stupid children.
assdan  +   128d ago
Exactly. I wouldn't pay $2 for it, but people can if they want. It's not like they're taking away large parts of the game and then selling it to us later.
Bennibop  +   128d ago
I am in my 30s and I love a fart joke! You have got plenty of time to be serious when you are dead.
2cents  +   128d ago
I agree, but...

time and a place. The only way I can think of explaining what I mean is, it ain't funny when your sitting on a packed train and the person standing with their ass in front of you farts in your face... That ain't funny man, even though I'm pissing myself while typing this, time and a place.

Killzone has had a serious image about it since the first game, now they want to charge you real money to fart.

Now this has happened, killzone will now forever wear the many monikers

Fartzone

Killzone Shadowfart

Killzone silentfart

oh the joys... :)
Jonny5isalive  +   128d ago
Im sure you also loved the weed DLC in COD.
Bennibop  +   127d ago
@Jonny5isalive I don't play COD its for kids.
Jughead3416  +   128d ago
Anyone who has a problem with it takes gaming too seriously. A hobby is supposed to be a way to relieve stress in a fun way. How can you enjoy your hobby is you nit pick everything? If you don't want to pay $2, then don't. Let us gamers who like it and don't mind the price have our fun. Everything isn't for everyone. What I like about gaming is, there's always something for everyone.
Rik_Mayall  +   128d ago
I remember when such trivial things were included within the game for no extra cost.

It's like being charged $2 to be able interact with the toilets, sinks and mirrors in Duke Nukem 3D.
Spotie  +   128d ago
But those things weren't added to the game 7, 8 months after release.

This isn't a big deal in the slightest. Lmao at LOGIC showing his fanboy colors again over farting in a damn video game.
Chrisgamerguy  +   128d ago
Well I wouldn't play killzone if you want to have fun
solar  +   128d ago
gamers forgot how DLC was free.
Enigma_2099  +   128d ago
Either that or *GASP* we don't find farts funny. Frankly, I think they f*****' stink.
DoomeDx  +   128d ago
For christ sake.

This is one of the only games with FREEEEEEE map DLC. And yet here we are, complaining about a fart.

I'd rather have free maps and cosmetic paid DLC then the other way around.
Rhythmattic  +   128d ago
^^^That ^^^
Right there.
Back-to-Back  +   128d ago
It's sad how most mp games are going to way of COD when it comes to online play. It always amazes me how people pay for stupid shit like camos in game. In COD there are more dlc camo's than camo's that shipped with the game. That is ridiculous if you ask me.
TheSaint  +   128d ago
No one is forcing anyone to buy anything.

Gamers hold all the power, not devs. If we wanted we could destroy any gaming company.
PinkEye  +   128d ago
The article isn't challenge if it is fun. The article is talking about being charged $2 to fart. That is stupid. I think a fart could have been included free. Like the stupid dog skin in cod ghosts was so dumb and overvalued.
3-4-5  +   128d ago
Farts are funny at any age, but this is obviously geared towards like 10-12 year old boys.

At that age farts are still Hilarious so that is probably who this is marketed at.

It's just.....Lame though. Terrible idea, and extremely UNCREATIVE.

I'm embarrassed for the Developer's because I'm pretty sure their not intelligent enough to be embarrassed for themselves.

In 20 seconds any one of us could come up with a better idea.

People got PAID for this idea ? REALLY?

These people are professional ?

Nothing has ever screamed Amature more than this.
XSpike  +   128d ago
Yeah, but now we can laugh at the fools who taunt you with thesex= as "Hahaha he paid $2 for that what a fool!"
Majin-vegeta  +   129d ago
At least it's better than that weed dlc from cod.

xXXXQUICKSCOPEZFAZELADDERINST ALLBLAZEITFGIT420XXXx
Beastforlifenoob  +   128d ago
Or the snoopdog voice pack.
Clown_Syndr0me  +   128d ago
Yeah that one was ridiculous. DlC like this just makes my eyes roll, and anyone that is seen using it looks ridiculous to be honest..
DanielGearSolid  +   129d ago
I feel like half the population still doesn't understand that dlc is optional
MrSwankSinatra  +   129d ago
I feel like more than half of the population still doesn't understand that most DLC is cut from the games to jerk the consumers.
DialgaMarine  +   129d ago
Usually, but sometimes DLC is actually developed post release. TLoU Left Behind is a good example.
DanielGearSolid  +   128d ago
@MrSwank
That's just a conspiracy theory...

DLC being optional is a fact...

At the end of the day developers have every right to decide wat their content is worth.

You can play any game to its completion as many times as you want without touching dlc.

You want the extra content, pay for it... It doesn't matter if u think it was cut from the main game.
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Debaitable  +   128d ago
I don't think you understand that studios need revenue to continue to produce games. I mean, am I the only around during here who actually likes to support their favorite developers? If it's content that I deem worthy of my dollar I will purchase. If not, I move on.
Koyes  +   128d ago
Agreed. DLC is usually cut from the actual game to sap more money from consumers. This is especially obvious and blatant when the download for a DLC is only 100KB, which means the DLC is already on disc and just needs 'unlocking' :/
yezz  +   128d ago
@DanielGearSolid

Having to pay for a noise or move that the character makes is preposterous. How many hours have the developers used to create these things? Maybe a half one..

I like to support my favorite developers but not this way. If Rockstar would ask few dollars for every DLC gun, clothing, vehicle, house, celebration etc. I would feel a bit angry..

There should definitely be a line somewhere because we might pay for our patches soon if this continues.
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MysticStrummer  +   128d ago
I feel like a small portion of the population is confusing actual gameplay content with a fart.

The content of this DLC isn't "taking DLC too far" but it does seem to go against the general feel of the game. I felt the same about dancing in SOCOM. Those things just don't seem to belong in those games so I wouldn't personally use them even if they were free, much less pay a dime extra for them. If others want to buy them that's their business, but it may just cause at least a few people to not play as much or stop altogether if they prefer a more serious and realistic tone to their virtual combat.
LOGICWINS  +   128d ago
The issue isn't the DLC itself, but more so about what it says about Sony and what kind of audience they want to attract. If in 2014, you believe virtual farting is so amusing that you would pay REAL money for the ability to do it online...frankly I wouldn't want to play with you.
Blank  +   128d ago
"frankly inwouldnt want to play with you" thats what she said waka waka. Anywho on topic its not like teabagging exists..... Wait a minute!
mediate-this  +   127d ago
Man you make zero sense and you really need a name change, you are the same guy touting ps4 takeover, and sony is taking america, but you realize alot of 360 fans bought ps4's, there are alot of immature kids from 360( ps3 too) so if sony takes the 360 fans, sony also needs to market to immature 360 fams too.

Makes sense.
DanielGearSolid  +   128d ago
@Yezz

And how many hrs does it take you to make $2 in a day?
RIP_Cell  +   128d ago
costs $2 if you want to fart, but you can watch people fart on you, that's free
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xReDeMpTiOnx  +   129d ago
Not at all, people are seriously oversensitive and like to complain about every little thing...... Its rated M for a reason if people are gonna complain then rated games shouldebt be their thing.

Its not like we have bigger problems in life or anything rather than optional dlc content
truefan1  +   128d ago
Pretty pathetic they have to take it this far too get some interest and publicity. Also if anything it should be free.
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GribbleGrunger  +   128d ago
Fella, just step back for a moment and consider what you represent. Do you represent yourself or do you represent the required narrative? You are SO consistent in your condemnation of one console over another that it leads me (and others) to believe 'the narrative' has complete control over you. Are you really that weak?

This is NOT a condemnation of your personality, this is merely a plea to look more deeply into what YOU are, and potentially what YOU could be.
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RIP_Cell  +   128d ago
that coming from you? lol
Master-H  +   128d ago
Big criticism coming from someone with no pride... lol

http://i.imgur.com/FOZcvds....
MrBeatdown  +   128d ago
I agree. This should be free. We all want farts and shouldn't have to pay for them.

Charge for the map packs instead.
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MysticStrummer  +   128d ago
We all don't want farts. I wouldn't use the content of this DLC even if it was free because it just doesn't fit with the feel of the game. Stuff like this would be more appropriate for a game that has comedy as one of it's standard elements. Borderlands or Duke Nukem, something like that.
MrBeatdown  +   128d ago
Not sure if you realize I was being sarcastic.

I'm not debating this stuff is dumb.

I'm just saying, when it comes to things like this, leave it as paid content. If developers are going to charge for something, I'd much rather they charge for the meaningless stuff.

If I have to deal with the occasional fart sound from some guy who had to have it, I'm fine with it so long as I'm getting map packs free.

Besides, between screaming twelve years olds and teabagging, I don't think a few extra farts are going to ruin the tone of the match.
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Vantage  +   128d ago
Horse armor > Helghan farts
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   128d ago
A better question would be who the hell even still plays KZSF?
mezati99  +   128d ago
alot of people do. the servers are filled with people.
NegativeCreep427  +   128d ago
That actually could be a legitimate and straight question, because I'd wager that you yourself are nothing but a troll and haven't even had one second of playtime with Killzone SF.
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BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   128d ago
Well if your talking to me I'd gladly take that bet. Not only have I bought and played killzone but I've been a psn member since Dec of 2006. Feel free to look up my gamer tag (deethagee) I'm on destiny as I type this. KZ had a low player count in my region (US) months ago so I know it hasn't improved. Now you sure you wanna take that bet?
NegativeCreep427  +   128d ago
You base your statement on Killzone SF not having enough players today...from when you last played "months ago"? totally disregarding any influx in players from more customers purchasing a ps4 and a copy of Killzone Shadow Fall since then? To a troll like you that is perfectly reasonable and makes all sense, but not to anyone else. So I'm still game.

If you weren't such an idiot troll you would have had enough bubbles to respond now and actually hold a real argument.

Edit: Oh boy the Xbox sycophants seem to be out in full force tonight even though this is a Killzone related article. I guess if they had a PS4 and the opportunity to play Destiny they wouldnt be all on damage-control today.
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RIP_Cell  +   128d ago
last time I played there's not even 800 people playing, have to be even less now.
DoomeDx  +   128d ago
I do. I love that game and its support
Rhythmattic  +   128d ago
"A better question would be "who the hell even still plays KZSF?""

Better question is " who the hell wouldn't?" its a great MP Online game.

I prefer the MP gameplay over Destiny.
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Ryan741  +   128d ago
Lol, stay classy Sony.
MegaRay  +   128d ago
Ripping off others. They definitely ripped of Oddworld with this....... ill show myself the door.....
mkis007  +   128d ago
I didn't know this was a thing until now. dying.
Rearden  +   128d ago
It'll be interesting to see what's next in line...
DirtyPimp  +   128d ago
Hell naw
s1rnem  +   128d ago
Just far enough I'd say.
Ryan741  +   128d ago
They are just trying to cash in on the average PlayStation fan.
NegativeCreep427  +   128d ago
OOO a very classy and mature Xbot troll has just showed up. Quick everybody else, throw everything of value you have that you didn't have to pay for or paid less for that has substantial value and throw it out the window so this classy gentlemen up top can fit in and won't feel so bad...
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Ryan741  +   128d ago
Ama right eh, ama right eh eh.☺
elmaton98  +   128d ago
No offense but what do you mean?
ScottyHoss  +   127d ago
Don't mind him elmaton98, he's "special"
OverlordMao  +   128d ago
if you think its taking things too far with a 2$ fart dlc just dont buy it. Simple as that. When sony will see that 30 000 person still play the game and only 10 person bought this they will probably see there is a problem somewhere.
SpinalRemains138  +   128d ago
This is a real thing!!??

Someone paid to have their guy fart online?

Oh Jesus. Should charge more than that if people are dumb enough to pay for it.
Doge  +   128d ago
I witnessed it earlier while I was playing online. It was incredibly dumb.
DanielGearSolid  +   128d ago
Dude, to each his own...

Anyone interested in something ur not interested in is automatically dumb?

It's no different than a character skin, its there for personalization. Doesn't add or take anything away from gameplay...

Chill
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SpinalRemains138  +   128d ago
Yes its dumb.

Again. They're paying not for a skin, but to have their guy fart. Essentially turning gamers into kindergarten children who laugh at farting.

Sony is profiting from it. Good for them.
MysticStrummer  +   128d ago
I think it takes away from the general feel of the game, adding a comedic element to what is normally a more serious experience. It's like dancing in SOCOM to me. Then again most voice chat is just as bad for immersion, but at least those people can be muted.

I wouldn't use this stuff even if it was free, but I also don't think it's "taking DLC too far". This kind of DLC just belongs in something like Borderlands or Duke Nukem, or some other game that has comedy as a standard element.
DanielGearSolid  +   128d ago
I know ur trying to sound like a mature adult, but wat ur saying is even more immature than the farts...

"I don't like this, so its dumb, and I'm gonna call anybody who likes it a dumb person"

Thats the point you're trying to make?

What are you in kindergarten? ;D
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KonsoruMasuta  +   128d ago
Reminds me of the days GTA had a fart button.
yezz  +   128d ago
Didn't have to pay for it though ;)
NegativeCreep427  +   128d ago
Well you don't have to pay for the Killzone Fart dlc either, so what's your point?
TomahawkX  +   128d ago
plenty of people shelled out a dollar for that fart app, i guess fart sells.
HeavenlySnipes  +   128d ago
You don't have to buy it...
one2thr  +   128d ago
Exactly!!
Gh05t  +   128d ago
Doesn't mean you wont be subjected to it though.
PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   128d ago
This gaming community is filled with a bunch of pathetic losers.
BX81  +   128d ago
Wtf is this lameness? Is some one really trying to charge for this?
SpinalRemains138  +   128d ago
Who's worse? The ones charging or the losers who buy it?
Gh05t  +   128d ago
The developers who made it I would say since it starts with them.
BX81  +   128d ago
Idk. I really try not to judge what people spend their money on. Hell if you buy a soda out of a machine youre really paying for convenience.
gamerfan0909  +   128d ago
Lol, there's people that legit defend this DLC?
Ripsta7th  +   128d ago
So how is this different than horse armor dlc? But i bet Sony fanboys will still defend this shit
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pandehz  +   128d ago
I'm all for fun and humour etc etc but I really dont want to hear 12 yr old fart symphonies.
cfc83  +   128d ago
Just be selective about what games you buy from these devs. This dlc has to be a joke, surely ?
one2thr  +   128d ago
Its all for fun, heck a game where you unlock a unicorn that requires the character on screen to squeeze its "nuts" in order for it to shoot a rainbow colored material dissolving beam out of its anus, didnt get as much heat as this paid dlc, has gotten...

Sheesh, people learn to laugh a little...
Bapz05  +   128d ago
The thing about DLC is it's optional if you don't like it don't buy it
no_more_heroes  +   128d ago
This looks like something that should be free...
DarXyde  +   128d ago
Immature? Yes, but I don't think Sony is encouraging it so much as it seems they have noticed that underaged kids play M-rated games perhaps too often. If you're willing to spend 200 cents to pass gas, I think Sony will have some "useful" demographic info of their online rated M titles.
pandehz  +   128d ago
12 yr olds passing digital gas is not ''useful'' demographic info for a game whose main demographic may not even be 12 yr olds and those that do not pass digital gas for kicks.
DarXyde  +   128d ago
Actually, it can be useful information. If not age, mentality of people who play these games would be useful. And making money in the process? It's borderline criminal, but money is money. . I guess.
BG11579  +   128d ago
It doesn't matter the company, these are my rules for DLC:
1)Day one DLC it just bad.
2)Blocked content on disk isn"t DLC, and isn't a good practice.
3)DLC that break the balance of the game, giving to those who paid them, are bad.
4)DLC that is cosmetic, not so much, as long as they aren't day one (to one month) DLC.
5)DLC that relaunches the interest for the game, released over 6 months after or more, are actually good, as long as they don't break the balance of the game.

That's how I see DLC.
Dlacy13g  +   128d ago
Two words... horse armor.
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