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Submitted by donnieboy 106d ago | news

Destiny beta on Xbox One will not be running at 1080p, will reach 1080p by launch

Bungie has confirmed just now in the IGN live stream that the Destiny beta on Xbox One will not be running at 1080p. The game itself at launch will reach 1080p. Bungie’s Community Manager said that ‘there’s always time for improvement.’ (Xbox One)

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XiSasukeUchiha  +   106d ago
Hopefully Bungie I have faith in you:)
XiNarutoUzumaki   106d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(18)
bicfitness  +   106d ago
"There's always time for improvement" =/= "Will assuredly, 100%, be 1080p at launch". Titanfall never got the promised/ teased resolution boost. In fact, nothing about that patch has been mentioned for months now.

What mark (in the video) is the actual quote at? I wouldn't mind listening to what is said, as this paraphrasing is kind of hearsay.

Edit (Article is from March 10th):

http://attackofthefanboy.co...

"Titanfall Xbox One resolution likely to increase after launch"

KEY word: "likely". Avoid declaring absolutes, so that when nothing materializes, there can be no consequences, as a lie never--technically--occurred. This is basic bait-and-switch people. Still, its funny how easily suckers fall for this PR blather.
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KNWS  +   106d ago
I played titanfall the other day and screen tearing and frame rate issues have greatly improvement since launch. Games always get updated you know to a better build.

I bet Respawn could have upped the resolution if they wanted, but maybe they can't be bothered this late in the game. Resolution is more of a bigger deal to Sony fans to be honest.
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jacksons98  +   105d ago
@KNWS
My sister borrowed a book from me she gifted me for Christmas. I asked for it back and she said "that's my book look it has my name in it." She had actually signed her name in my book. My sister is the most honest person you will ever meet, she would never lie. She truly believes it is her book.
Some people can talk themselves into anything.
NextLevel  +   106d ago
It has nothing to do with Bungie.

90% of the time the Xbox One hits 1080p in cross gen games, it has framerate issue, tearing or is missing effects present in the PS4 version. Expect Destiny to be no different. It's a system problem, not a developer problem.

Screen tearing in Sniper Elite 3, the most recent 1080p Xbox One game.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
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turdburgler1080  +   106d ago
So how much does sony pay you to troll?
Dewitt  +   106d ago
I always enjoy watching you proved wrong. They already confirmed 1080p on both consoles and are improving IQ. Again, this is the exact purpose of a beta.
TheGrimReaper  +   106d ago
@Dewitt:
Of course they are improving IQ, but this is not the exact purpose of a beta :/
Stressing your engine with worst case scenarios is easy to test during development without using a beta...
NextLevel  +   106d ago | Well said
@turdburgler1080

When mentioning the Xbox One's issues with multiplats is trolling, is hardly my fault. Pretty much ALL multiplats on Xbox One that are 1080p have framerate problems or are missing effects like AO or AA for example. The Xbox One beta has problems that weren't present in the PS4's alpha, like framerate problems (with no action going on or other characters to render on screen)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

@dewitt

It will be 1080p, again it'll most likely be missing effects. The fact that its not 1080p yet, makes that a high probability. Just cause games say they're 1080p on PS4 and Xbox One, doesn't automatically mean they are completely even on all levels.

Also, beta's are for testing servers. Which is why MP games have them, not SP games. It has nothing to do with resolutions.
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lfc_4eva  +   106d ago
@NextLevel

Can't believe I just clicked 'agree' to your post by mistake.

I will drag my bare nuts over broken glass to say sorry to the gods.
Mkai28  +   106d ago
You're obsessive negativity on anything positive makes you a troll.. I mean one would think that you were a PC gamer that cared for graphics so much. Have you forgotten that games are about fun aswell?

NextLevel + 1h ago
"Everyone I know still waiting for the master chief collection to pick up an Xbox One. November will be the true test. I predict total domination by Xbox One just because of Halo."

It won't. It'll spike sales, then die down.

Things that were suppose to save the Xbox One.

- Titanfall
- DRM reversals
- DX12
- E3 2014
- Dropping Kinect

Now, it's Tier 2 countries, Halo and the cloud.

The cloud was already suppose to save the Xbox One with Watchdogs.

"Xbox One Cloud Processing Gives Watch Dogs City AI More ‘Dynamism’"
http://www.gengame.net/2013...

It's become a joke and that's why the Xbox One is failing hard and no amount of wishful thinking, pity, overhyping of average games, downplaying of technology or goal post shifting will stop it.

NextLevel + 5h ago
@truefan

Titanfall is a cross gen game (360 & PC)
Project Spark is a cross gen game (360 & PC)
Halo MCC is Xbox and 360 game.
Forza Horizon is a cross gen game (360)

Just for the record I would view TLOU RE and LBP3 as cross gen games aswell. For the sake of argument is assume it's not. Something like Driveclub embarrassed Forza Horizon 2 and Forza 5 on a technical level.

Driveclub
http://a.pomf.se/qmzfuo.gif

Forza Horizon 2
http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-...

Forza 5
http://static.gamespot.com/...

and people act like the gap is marginal....

You have this on and on in every positive Xbox article, you need help. It's really not healthy being upset about a piece of plastic. Do you see red when xbox is mentioned, do you have the sudden impulse to rage type and spend hours gathering information on this brand?

Last question, did Xbox touch you inappropriately when you were younger...?
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Jo0j  +   106d ago
"Screen tearing in Sniper Elite 3, the most recent 1080p Xbox One game."

Why do people talk crap? You know you can just go to options and turn on v-sync, right?
You have checked-out the game yourself, instead of relying on secondhand info from the gaf of all places, yes?
I've been playing with it on from the start for over 14 hours on authentic and can't say I've experienced tearing or frame issues either. SMH
NullPointer  +   106d ago
@Jo0j
There is a reason v-synch isn't on by default. It has very serious consequences for framerate (idling until the next v-synch). So, yes, you can entirely eliminate the tearing but your framerate might drop by 20% or more (judging by the tears in that GIF).
dmitrijs88  +   106d ago
Just abandon xbox done and come play where greatness awaits, simple.
Kribwalker  +   106d ago
And waits and waits...PS4, home to delayed games
lfc_4eva  +   106d ago
Why?

Is this game coming to PC?

YEAH!!!!! (sarcasm)
GTgamer  +   106d ago
@Kribwalker soooooooo your telling me no Xbox games have ever been delayed okayyyyyy then, you make the most educating comments just works of arts see i can say stupid things tooಠ_ಠ.
skeetys  +   106d ago
Please don't invite the Xbone Live community to PSN. We don't want PSN to turn into the new Live, XBone Live is pure cancer. The community is disgusting and irritating children.
Elit3Nick  +   105d ago
@skeetys XBL has already improved considerably since the introduction of the new reputation system, I rarely see any trolls and craptalkers.
ThePope  +   106d ago
expect for this quote:

"The Xbox One footage of the game will be running at 1080p, but the beta will not be running at the footage quality."
joab777  +   106d ago
Would b very impressive!
otherZinc  +   106d ago
1080p native doesn't matter. I'd rather the game have Campaign Co-op, Splitscreen, & Online, so I'd have more replay value.

Halo Master Chief Collection will be 1080p 60fps across 4 games & I don't care about that, as every game played on the XBOX ONE is upscaled to 1080p anyway.

On the Halo Master Chief Collection, what I do care about is the move the move to horizontal splitscreen campaign co-op & online campaign co-op in Halo 2 Anniversary
SCW1982  +   105d ago
Sorry but they have only promised 60 FPS right now they are struggling with 1080p on the halo 2 remake.
JeffGUNZ  +   105d ago
Dude, at E3 they said it will all be 1080p 60fps.

http://www.gamepur.com/news...

This was published right after they said it. Unless they have changed their story but I figured we'd all read it here on PSN4G.com
VanDamme  +   105d ago
I love this guys style...
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iNFAMOUZ1  +   105d ago
faith? never have faith in a traitor
Neonridr  +   106d ago
Good to hear. Glad owners of either console will be able to enjoy this game in 1080p.
Yo Mama  +   106d ago
If they don't have it running in 1080p yet, it's not a given that they will by launch. They are going to try their best though. But even then, it could be upscaled, not native.
lameguy  +   106d ago
It's quite possible the build used for the beta was forked and stabilized before they were able to integrate in the June XDK to remove Kinect.
mhunterjr  +   106d ago
Evey sub-1080p game is upscaled to 1080p. These systems only output at 1080p. All of this talk about resolution is about native resolution.
GUTZnPAPERCUTZ  +   106d ago
? They stated native, Both systems automatically upscale to 1080p silly. The "June" SDK just came out at the end of last month for devs. The Beta Build was probably 90% complete before that.
This is Bungie, if they say they are going to do something... they will deliver.
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MonstaTruk  +   106d ago
That's a NEGATIVE. BF4 is the ONLY game that upscaled to 1080p on PS4. That's not something we're about, during the 8th gen... ;-)
Bigpappy  +   106d ago
The glasses do make you look smart, but your comment proves otherwise. All games on X1 that are below 1080p are unscaled to 1080p. You started sounding like you may be a programmer, but then you had to go reveal your knowledge... or lack there of.
lfc_4eva  +   106d ago
Didn't MS say the upscalar chip in the XB1 was a real state of the art piece of hardware?
DirtyPimp  +   106d ago
whats the catch in getting it to run 1080p on xbox one? i KNOW there is a catch somewhere.
bicfitness  +   106d ago
No AA, worse depth-of-field, artifacting, muddy textures, lower shadow mapping, judder, screen-tear. The possibilities are endless. Did you check out the Sniper Face Off?
ThinkThink  +   106d ago
Yeah all that stuff, but in reality, you won't notice the difference.
_LarZen_  +   106d ago
It will be at the expense of some visual effects that the PS4 will have the resources to show.
snookiegamer  +   106d ago
@DirtyPimp

Well, I LMAO everytime I read 'PS4 fans' are the ones making a big deal out of everything Xbox One???

That seems to be the new thing...Blame PS4 owners for every perceived failure that arises with their console.

Yup, sure it all our fault. Perhaps we should have designed a better console for you all to play on? ;/
JeffGUNZ  +   105d ago
huh? You make video gaming like nazi germany. Like we HAVE to buy a certain console. You can buy whichever you prefer. It's just ironic the same PS4 fanboys have to come in and repeat the same thing over and over again in every article. I'll get a PS4 when ND comes out with a game that isn't just a remaster I already beat 10 months ago on my PS3.
SteamPowered  +   106d ago
I dunno....will they really hit 1080p though? Launch is right around the corner. You would think Beta would be 1080 since it is so close to launch, no?
jackanderson1985  +   106d ago
not necessarily the Beta is probably a good bit old now code wise, they'd have been continuously working on it since.... 1080p would be nice but if it's at the sacrifice of framerates I'd rather em lower it to 900p or whatever
GamingSinceThe80s  +   106d ago
Maybe Sony paid Bungie for the exclusive rights to the 1080p demo?lol
MegaRay  +   106d ago
Well... they paid for a better hardware, Does that count? :P
Dinkis  +   106d ago
I have to disagree but bubble up for funny lol
GamingSinceThe80s  +   106d ago
Thanks it was a joke after all.But it seems it pissed most folks off.People are way to sensitive these days.I bought all the Big 3's consoles just like the last 3 generation's because I love great games no matter what system they are for.After all games are made to have fun not fight about who's system is better.
Software_Lover  +   106d ago
Doubt if they will hit 1080p by launch without cutbacks.

sidenote: I know there are cutbacks on the ps4 to hit 1080p also, there will just be more cutbacks on the XBone. I would rather them just do 900p and call it a day. Let the fanboys on the internet argue.

All devs should just make the best game they can.
Meltic  +   106d ago
say 1 game that cannot run 1080p on the Xbox one.
Immorals  +   106d ago
Battlefield 4?
brandonb21  +   106d ago
call of duty ghost, titanfall, assassins creed black flag
Master-H  +   106d ago
The list would be shorter if you ask for games that can run 1080p on the xbox one, just saying.
AfterThought  +   106d ago
Killer Instinct
Titanfall
Ryse
Dead Rising 3
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
Metro: Redux
Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare
Shadow Warrior
The Witcher 3
Thief
Trials Fusion
Watch Dogs
Wolfenstein: The New Order - 1440x1080 in some areas
Sunset Overdrive
Diablo III: Reaper of Souls
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Battlefield 4
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition - 900p cutscenes
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Master-H  +   106d ago
Oh oh, i guess they will hit 1080p by launch, downgrades probably take some time to apply.
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PsylentKiller  +   106d ago
I was on the fence about which console to get Destiny for. Now, my choice is clear. I will not make another Sniper Elite mistake. I have many more Xbox Live friends than PSN friends but it's always nice to meet new people. Plus, I'll be playing TLOU in two weeks so I'll probably meet new friends there that are getting Destiny as well. Now I have to get used to playing FPS games with the DS4.
Dontworrybhappy  +   106d ago
Wait... TLOU releases in 2 weeks?! Don't eff with me man!
SuperBlunt  +   106d ago
Indeed it does dude. They just announced today there will be a photo mode day 1
PsylentKiller  +   106d ago
14 days exactly till TLOU.

I guess my disagrees were because I didn't comment about the article directly. Maybe it's because I indirectly compared 505 Games to Bungie, like Bungie can't get Destiny to 1080 on the One. I believe they can get to 1080 but there will be sacrifices, maybe not as many as Sniper Elite, but sacrifices that most likely won't be made for the PS4 version.
I have 19 indie games, AC4, and MGS: GZ for PS4 to 5 indie games and 15 AAA games on the Xbox One. Deciding to get Destiny for PS4 was/is a difficult choice but the PS4 is proving time and again that it is the better console as far as graphics are concerned. But buying Destiny for the Xbox One as well is not out of the question. If the Beta goes well for me, I thoroughly enjoy Destiny upon release, and many of my Xbox friends buy Destiny, then I may very well have Destiny on both consoles.
MonstaTruk  +   106d ago
@PsylentKiller

Welcome. Gdamnit welcome... :-D
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Menkyo  +   106d ago
BOOM lol thats suck for xbone people.
tuglu_pati  +   106d ago
why? think about it its just a beta.
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Menkyo  +   106d ago
Cause it means they still havent gotten it to run at 1080p on xbone yet.
tuglu_pati  +   106d ago
So? You know what beta means, right?
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TRD4L1fe  +   106d ago
you seem excited
snookiegamer  +   106d ago
@TRD4L1fe

Didn't ya know....

Every PS4 owner prays for Xbox One failures each night before they go to bed. We're always excited when a competitors console doesn't match up to our expectations.

s/
Dontworrybhappy  +   106d ago
I don't care about resolution really, can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080. But it would be nice to know that the X1 can reach it. But my main thing is 60 fps, especially in shooters.
SuperBlunt  +   106d ago
Destiny is 30 fps on the xb1 hopefully locked
MonstaTruk  +   106d ago
@SuperBlunt

About that...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
Bonkerz  +   106d ago
What is the problem here? Its a beta lol, he clearly says without hesitation the actual game will be 1080P. Man you guys love to make stories and drama out of anything. Im really starting to think the PS4 guys really are the start of the console wars.
KNWS  +   106d ago
This has been known about for a while. The beta is an old build and the reason Bungie hit 1080p was because of the reserve gpu power for kinect has now been removed.

Its phenomenal that both versions will be 1080p at launch. 50 per cent power difference was always nonsense.

imt@ 50 per cent power difference would be noticeable by now and its not showing. Sorry while i accept the GPU is slightly more powerful in the PS4. Games coming out for both consoles look the same with just minor differences.
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imt558  +   106d ago
Quote :

50 per cent power difference was always nonsense.

50% power difference is NOT just in resolution/framerate.
Software_Lover  +   106d ago
Or maybe, because people only seem to care about 1080p they did what they had to do on both consoles to hit that? The ps4 has a better GPU, that is a fact that will not change.
imt558  +   106d ago
imt@ 50 per cent power difference would be noticeable by now and its not showing.

Graphical/perfomance differences in some multiplatform games are big enough in PS4 favor ( MGS V, BF4, Sniper Elite III, Assassins Creed IV, COD : Ghosts and so on... ) , in exclusive games is much bigger difference.

Destiny on Xbone ( even at sub1080p ) :

http://fc06.deviantart.net/...

Better for Xbone owners to be polished until launch.
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vinniects  +   106d ago
Did you noticed that your list mostly contains launch games. next cod and assassins creed are confirmed to be 1080p on both systems. You do realize the xbox one is a better system today than it was at launch (at least software upgrades)
Angels3785  +   105d ago
they are not confirmed...

they are aiming for parity. BIG difference.

as that doesn't always happen

also just because it is 1080p on both systems does not mean one still doesnt look better
AfterThought  +   105d ago
The PS4 is actually 50% more powerful, the problem is when you're talking about computers, 50% isn't some magically huge difference but it's clearly enough. The PS4 trumps the Xbox One in every department by fairly significant margins when your talking about hardware.

All you have to do is use math to see that it is actually 50% more powerful.

PS4's 1.84flop vs. Xbox One's 1.31flop = 28% difference.

PS4 1152 shaders vs. Xbox One's 768 shaders = 33% difference.

If you can't figure out percentages between two numbers, let me explain it for you people who clearly can't use simple math.

Teraflops

1.84 - 1.31 = 0.53

0.53 / 1.84 = 0.2880434782608696

0.2880434782608696 x 100 = 28%

Shaders

1152 - 768 = 384

384 / 1152 = 0.3333333333333333

0.3333333333333333 x 100 = 33%

That seems about 50% to me, the rest is pretty self explanatory, easy addition.

So if you people want to argue against the foundation in which we build our entire lives around be my guest because numbers don't lie. You can try all you want but the PS4 will always be 50% more powerful than the Xbox One because of its hardware.

It has been showing since the PS4 released, almost every multiplat game always runs at a higher resolution on PS4 and believe it or not upping the resolution is fairly taxing on hardware in general. So it is obvious the PS4 has the advantage.
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uth11  +   106d ago
So Bungie says wants to hit 1080p on all platforms. Is that wise? It implies they will downgrade other elements of the game, if necessary.
SuperBlunt  +   106d ago
So is bungie a bunch of liars like naughty dog now? "The june sdk update will allow destiny to reach 1080p on the xbox one". Of course they arent, these numbers are merely target and should not be seen as fact. Dis gon get ugly though.
dc1  +   106d ago
What do you mean by liars like Naughty Dog?
Before you answer please keep in mind that any declaration of Frames Per Second is always understood as 'up to' unless we insert the word 'locked'.
To put this in perspective; there is not 1 triple "A" game released on the 360 or the PS3 that used the word 'locked' when communicating their frames per second.

I look forward to your answer.

More gaming love and less console love.
:)
danny818  +   106d ago
Is this with or without kinect?
Tedakin  +   106d ago
Kinect has nothing to do with the 10% boost. Just FYI.
danny818  +   106d ago
I read online where bungie stated that now with the extra power of it being with out kinect they achived 1080p smoothly
castillo  +   106d ago
Was annoyed with bungie and Activision crap before , this put the nail in the coffin of ever getting this game day one. Have no clue when or if I will buy this game now. Oh well onto the other release that month.
Slick81  +   106d ago
Wow xbox one article and nothing but douche ps4 fans ahh another day
TRD4L1fe  +   106d ago
any chance they can get to put down the XB1
AutoCad  +   106d ago
Cant wait to play this with my buddies next week.
MasterCornholio  +   106d ago
I hope they reach 1080P but the games coming out on the 9th of September which means that it will go gold a few weeks before launch. There isn't much time left and if they implement 1080P into the XB1 version it will probably be through a patch.

With that said I'm pretty sure Bungie won't let their fans down and they will do a fantastic job with Destiny on the XB1.
Dlacy13g  +   106d ago
while your times are all correct, beta's are typically older builds in most cases. I wouldn't doubt the X1 destiny beta is from a build from 2 months ago or older which would mean it doesn't have use of the June sdk update hence why its not 1080p.

Beyond that though, its their word in that they said at E3 it would be 1080p. Only Bungie themselves can be held accountable at this point.

Edit: This would also explain why the X1 install is slightly smaller than the PS4 install.
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Tedakin  +   106d ago
I'll tell you why this is. Destiny is the first game to take advantage of the 10% GPU thing. Bungie themselves said so. They probably haven't been able to fully apply it yet since it's fairly recent, so the beta isn't 1080, but the final game is. Just my thought.
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NewAgeisHere  +   106d ago
Don't worry soon as that secret xbox one sauce kicks in they might get it to 1080p:)
Obamanationn  +   106d ago
1080p Destiny on Xboned will mean Downgrade of visual effects, and LOD's
Tedakin  +   106d ago
FYI The Battlefield Hardline beta isn't 1080 on the PS4. Just saying... It's a fucking BETA.
Dlacy13g  +   106d ago
I will just say this. Bungie said it will be 1080p on the Xbox One (Bungie did say at E3 that the game will be running at 1080p at 30FPS on both PS4 and Xbox One at launch). No we will try for it, its a definitive statement. So, Bungie... don't make a liar out of yourselves.
DevilishSix  +   106d ago
I am sure both will be 1080p. Difference will be the PS4 will be natve and X1 will be upscaled and will probably be missing some effects.
sebzhd  +   106d ago
will reach or not :D

1080p 30fps or 900p 55fps

PS4 A080p 60 fps easy, as all multiports.
GusBricker  +   106d ago
It won't be 60fps on PS4 either.
mikemadden  +   106d ago
I fear a downgrade is coming. If the xbox one gimp this game for me I'm going to be pissed.
MCTJim  +   106d ago
Uhh..bungies statement from earlier said this is an earlier build did they not?
shadowT  +   106d ago
Yes, thats typical for Beta Testing. You are using stoneold versions to find bugs in past releases. This technic is called "forward compatibility".
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MCTJim  +   106d ago
thanks for confirming as I suspected.
shadowT  +   106d ago
Digital Foundry will not observe graphical difference anyways ;D
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FayZ_  +   106d ago
ms making sure xbone is a joke every day.
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