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DriveClub vs Forza Horizon 2 Raindrops Comparison: Which One Is More Realistic?

DriveClub and Forza Horizon 2 are two notable exclusives on the rival platforms. Forza Horizon 2 is exclusive to the Xbox One while DriveClub is exclusive to the PlayStation 4. Both of these games look great but in term of realism, which one takes the crown home? (Driveclub, Forza Horizon 2, PS4, Xbox One)

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Majin-vegeta  +   417d ago
DC hands down.

@2pac.I'm sure it looks way better now since it's post E3 weather. http://n4g.com/news/1545753...
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onyoursistersback  +   417d ago | Well said
haha, the rain dropps on FH2 are just lamelessly sitting on the hood of the car, and on DC the look to be shifting when the car hits hard turns.

we all know its DriveClub....if any thing
i do give credit on
Forza horizon 2 has the best cardboard cut out
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Magicite  +   417d ago | Well said
Theres only so much X1 can do.
guitarded77  +   417d ago | Well said
I can't believe how it goes from a discussion in one n4g thread to an article. I thought we resolved this in the previous story. DC looks better, and Horizon is an open world driving game, so it obviously wouldn't be on the same level.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   417d ago | Well said
@Dimitri yeah it can do 200+ cars open world that's 3x as bigger than the first one, Drivetars, Siri like AI assistant Dedicated cloud servers and fully tunable and customizable cars.

Its obviously doing plenty your gonna troll at least try to make sense.
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Christopher  +   417d ago
@onyoursistersback: I don't see that at all about the shifting rainfall. What it looks like is a dynamic droplet animation overlay on the car and windshield. But, with the turns I've seen on the video, they don't change direction but continue going from the front of the car towards the windshield.

It's definitely more lifelike, but it definitely doesn't look like it's taking on the physical aspect of the car's motion from what I've seen.
deepio  +   417d ago
Whilst I think DC looks better in the comparison shots, I don't think we've seen the same level of rain in FH2. In other words we're talking about heavy rain (DC) vs light rain (FH2). I don't think we've seen heavier rain in FH2 yet.

If you look at the IGN article the dev said "if it’s just light rain the tarmac will just darken slightly" - as we've seen. You'd also expect the rain drops to remain static on the car once the rain has stopped.

Who knows, maybe DC will still look better once we do see the same level of rain, but I'm just saying at the moment, this comparison isn't quite fair.
Mattz  +   417d ago
Its not even raining in the forza shot? Lol

Its a farce.. lets see how far the visuals take Driveclub when released. I for one will be enjoying forza whilst you guys play ur demonstration :)
Goku781  +   417d ago
Cardboard cutout, thats funny, but true.
calis  +   417d ago | Funny
"Theres only so much X1 can do."

Needs more cloud.
PONTIAC08G8GT  +   417d ago
Instead of racing other cars and worrying about the upcoming turn, I'm going to stop on the road and admire the more realistic rain drops. I'd def buy a racing game based on which has more realistic rain. Racing? Please, that's just stupid. Hopefully we can compare which has more detailed clouds or possibly grass on the side of the road. I'd love a comparison of which game has better tire tread detail.
Braid  +   417d ago
I'm looking forward to rocks on mountains and tree leaves comparison, completed with a compherensive, side-by-side dirt on tracks analysis. We're geologists after all, not gamers.
gamertk421  +   417d ago
Lamelessly??? Hahaha, congrats on inventing a new terrible word.
r2oB  +   417d ago
@ Pontiac

You should take time to admire the realistic rain, since it effects the way you race... I.e. handling, visability, and AI. Those are important aspects of a racing game, right?
Darkstares  +   417d ago
This is where the console wars come into full effect and the losers are really all of them. That's because instead of wanting to enjoy both games they'd rather support one hardware company. That sounds like that company has turned them into slaves by design.

DriveClub looks better, there really is no argument but each game is different in its approach. One is wide open drive anywhere so of course there is going to be some trade-offs that comes with that.
Sarcasm  +   417d ago
Forza Horizon looks like a racing video game.

Driveclub looks like CGI with more photorealistic lighting and field of view.

You decide.
GUTZnPAPERCUTZ  +   417d ago
Yeah, DC does look better, some really cool filtering they use! Forza Horizon 2 does not have cardboard cut outs like F5 did lol.
I can't believe how good DC looks though, Beautiful!
Bobby Kotex  +   417d ago
@guitarded77 don't be surprised. This is the armpit of the gaming world.
PONTIAC08G8GT  +   417d ago

I don't know, but is there varying degrees of weather in Driveclub? Meaning, you have a downpour, light drizzle, hurricane, etc etc. And the topic is "comparing rain drops" not "comparing the strength of the rain." Obviously if it's a downpour your going to drive differently then a drizzle, but the topic was comparing how the drops of rain look.
FamilyGuy  +   417d ago
The audio in DriveClub is a beast as well as the visuals aaaaand on a technical aspect the handling in the rain looks incredibly realistic.

It's a beast from all angles and still made to be more arcade/casual so anyone can enjoy the game.

This is how you set a bar!
MorePowerOfGreen  +   417d ago
"Theres only so much X1 can do"

Like the environmental simulations and almost full simulation of cars handling and physics in a open world plus destructible objects with online multi player?

If drive club was doing what Forza Horizon was doing it would look like a PS3 game. Despite your opinions of visuals DC isn't close to the technical level of FH2. Tuning, painting all parts handling and performing different.

Yes DC looks good for a basic arcade racer. Hell XB1 isn't even using all of its hardware yet, 100% of the Xb1 GPU is just now available for devs but only one CPU core is still being used.
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BallsEye  +   417d ago | Well said
So now we are comparing rainstorm to a sunny day with tiny tiny wetness. Again we're comparing an open world game to a closed tracks racer...and again the only thing that matters on n4g is graphics, unless winning console is not ps4.

Since we have dedicated article comparing raindrops (WTF!):

I'm waiting for the article comparing things that matter which is:

- numbers of cars druing the race (DC - 4 (YES, ONLY FOUR), FH2 - 12 + traffic)
- number of cars (DC-50, FH2 200)
- size of drivable area (DC - small closed tracks, FH2 huge open world)
- customization (DC-NONE, FH2-full customization, tuning, custom decals)
- car damage (DC-NONE, FH2 - costmetic and performance)
- online (DC- standard few players races, FH2 - seamless open world multiplayer exploration, 1000 players car clubs, 700+ events, Drivatars that learn and drive online, when you're offline)
- physics (DC - almost none, cars bouce of the walls, not affected by sings etc, FH2 - full physics with possibility to do barrel roll etc.

I guess this all does not matter if you can get some post-release, better raindrops. Need to start petition to turn10 to remove 18 cars from screen so it will be on par with DCs 4 cars as a tradeoff for raindrops upgrade. Totally worth it.
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DLConspiracy  +   417d ago
Yeah DC wins this match, partially because it's not even raining in the FH2 gif.

Tune in for next hour, for an article on 30fps vs 60fps from the same author.
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TheFanboySlayer  +   417d ago
@BallsEye ...you fail

"- numbers of cars druing the race (DC - 4 (YES, ONLY FOUR), FH2 - 12 + traffic)
- number of cars (DC-50, FH2 200)
- size of drivable area (DC - small closed tracks, FH2 huge open world)
- customization (DC-NONE, FH2-full customization, tuning, custom decals)
- car damage (DC-NONE, FH2 - costmetic and performance)
- online (DC- standard few players races, FH2 - seamless open world multiplayer exploration, 1000 players car clubs, 700+ events, Drivatars that learn and drive online, when you're offline)
- physics (DC - almost none, cars bouce of the walls, not affected by sings etc, FH2 - full physics with possibility to do barrel roll etc. "

Obviously you have not done any research on driveclub....you get 2 facts right Customization and number of cars, and club sizebut everything else is wrong.....
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   417d ago

You would need a really tight turn course (hard drifting or actually spinning out of control) to make droplets travel noticeably perdicular over the hood and windshield and even so it would only last a second or so... Afterall on pretty much any curve technique you are still going much faster forward than sideways.


Just because the rain stopped, doesn't mean droplets stand still on your car. You are still moving forward, creating friction with air that pushs the water back. In fact, this is very visible, didn't you ever drove in the rain?
Hercules189  +   417d ago
So when Ryse looked lots better than Killzone, it was because Killzone is a little bit more open. but when we're comparing a traditional racer that is basically a last gen racing game made for next gen compared to a completely wide open game that lets you drive between two different coutries and when Drive Club looks better its because the xbox one cant handle more, lol nice try trolls.
BallsEye  +   417d ago

oh my ... I did my research right, you better do yours.

You said I got 2 facts right, customization and number of cars and clubs...that's already 3 facts, you fail at counting.

So I guess DC is also open world since you said closed tracks is not a fact? Damn you need to get your poopers straight.
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TheFanboySlayer  +   416d ago

Sorry bud I typed too quickly I meant to put 3

but whatever I didnt wanna have to review our comment....but I will.

- numbers of cars druing the race (DC - 4 (YES, ONLY FOUR), FH2 - 12 + traffic)

Wrong...it clearly says 12 on the top left for DC...for FH2 there is 8 + traffic

- number of cars (DC-50, FH2 200)

Good job you got this almost right...50 for DC but 200+ for FH@

- size of drivable area (DC - small closed tracks, FH2 huge open world)

DC races can last up to 25 mins long
FH has a huge drivable area

- customization (DC-NONE, FH2-full customization, tuning, custom decals)

You are right...none besides your club logo

- car damage (DC-NONE, FH2 - costmetic and performance)

There is cosmetic damage -__- but there are invisible walls to keep you on course in DC

- online (DC- standard few players races, FH2 - seamless open world multiplayer exploration, 1000 players car clubs, 700+ events, Drivatars that learn and drive online, when you're offline)

DC is online game with clubs...pretty standard FH2 is Openworld online racing as you would expect *claps*

- physics (DC - almost none, cars bouce of the walls, not affected by sings etc, FH2 - full physics with possibility to do barrel roll etc.

more physics based calculations than FH2 -__-
besides the ability to do a barrel roll lol


and yess cars can flip

ShinMaster  +   416d ago
Is this what gaming has come down to? Comparing raindrops?

@ AngelicIceDiamond

- 200 cars? The number of cars a game contains has nothing to do with system performance. GT2 on PS1 had more cars. And it's not like they're being rendered simultaneously on screen for your point to even make sense.

- The first FH's world map wasn't all that dense in the first place. It was mostly made up of long winding roads. And while a 3x larger map is great, we've seen games like GTA San Andreas be 3x bigger than GTA3(both on PS2) and have quite a bit of wasted space.

- Cloud servers are external.
That has nothing to do with the Xbox One hardware itself.

- Tunable and customizable cars?
Yeah, because Forza Horizon is obviously so unique in that regard. Therefore games like NFSU couldn't have retroactively existed because it's only possible on Xbox One... right?

But don't get me wrong, I think the game is gonna be great.
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marcofdeath  +   416d ago
So FH2 is open world, and DriverClub is not.

DC has to use all it's GPU power no rain, XB1 has to do it all...
GameNameFame  +   416d ago
Angelica that's special how? Lol.

3x bigger than Xbox 360 game. Is x1 so uniressive you have to compare to last gen?
alexkoepp  +   416d ago
Neither are more realistic, no rain on the windshield?
Giul_Xainx  +   416d ago
Drive club vs Forza 2. Which one am I going to buy? Drive club.

I don't care that much about graphics. I care more about which game looks like MORE FUN.
morganfell  +   416d ago
I'm sorry but this is the next generation with new hardware. You do not get to play the open world card.

"My game doesn't look as good because it's open world."

Sorry (not) but that isn't an excuse when you are asking which one looks better.

It either does...or it does not. There is no try there yoda.
Destrania  +   416d ago

DriveClub does/will have rain on the windshield. The cam Evolution used for these videos are hood cams though, not cockpit cams. Pay attention to what you say before you say it.


Killzone is widely regarded as having better visual fidelity than Ryse AND just so happens to be far more open. And don't even get me started on Infamous, because that game pretty much owns anything we've seen released so far on next-gen consoles, and also just so happens to be another PS4 exclusive.

DriveClub is set to take the visual crown for racing games upon release, and most likely the rest of this year. Above that however, it is immersive, unique, exciting, and fun. Winning combination.

This right here shows how dedicated Evolution is to DriveClub and the experience. No other racing game can touch it as far as overall attention to detail by a long shot. http://blog.eu.playstation....
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memots  +   416d ago
wow this made top the page !? .. SAD
AngelicIceDiamond  +   417d ago
Oh boy I didn't see this comparison coming.

I'd have to say DC it was very impressive looking.
Septic  +   417d ago
Yeah DC wins rather easily.

Mind you, FH2 is an open world game so there's that. Still, visually, DC looks like what a next gen driving game should look like. It seems to have come a LONG way from last year.
lfc_4eva  +   417d ago
There'll be a next gen comparison of the bird crap on the windscreen coming shortly.
pedrof93  +   417d ago

I'm not sure how much of the track world/track both consoles could render, but If you put into perpective, I believe that what X1 and Ps4 renders must be around the same size despite solely being a track (on Ps4) or open-world on X1. See the Open-world here have 2d static crownd models and the world is not filled with moving things apart from the cars. It not like a real Open-world like Infamous or Prototype if know what I mean !
Mega24  +   417d ago
I was disappointed with the "no customization" though, Polyphony Digital takes a hint and allows at least custom paintjobs and some level of customization in GT7, I love circuit racing but I like my cars to be unique to me.
aragon  +   416d ago
Silly comparison since we know do will look better, even tho the comparison gifs were unfair with dc heavy rain vs fh2 light rain
Clover904  +   417d ago
lol at Forza's immovable droplets.
lifeisgamesok  +   417d ago
With narrow tracks, 50 cars, and less objects in the background Driveclub should look better

Forza has to render grass and other objects
Taislin  +   417d ago
@lifeisgamesok Your comment is all kinds of wrong. DC has just as many if not more objects in the background, it not only renders the croud,the trees, the grass, the dust and water particles,windmills, baloons, etc, all kinds of stuff, you name it, it also renders real time 3d clouds, an after the patch even puddles of water will be fully 3d rendered with real time drying conditions.No excuses, seeing as even the draw distance for rendering should be similar in both games.
Sarcasm  +   417d ago
Sweet delicious bitter salty grimey tears from lifeisgamesok, I love it!
THC CELL  +   417d ago | Funny
Power of cloud will make rain on xbox amazing, u can almost feel it.
Ra3030  +   417d ago
And don't forget the cloud will allow them to have more cardboard cutout people and cardboard cutout rain drops for Forza 2H. That's the "powa of da cloud" and so next gen and only on Xbox One.
gapecanpie  +   417d ago | Well said
Graphics DC win ... Content, customization and open world FH2 win...

Weather, content, customization, graphics and being playable at 60fps... Project cars on PC wins overall


One is linear straight forward sandbox racing and the other is open world and have to render a whole open world... This comparison is re**rded.

This comparison and most of the comments here make both fanboys of X1 and ps4 (especially Sony fans) look childish and insecure about their purchase.
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lfc_4eva  +   417d ago
A well balanced post dude. Shame you are getting so many disagrees for being a voice of reason and not a blinkered fanboy.
Taislin  +   417d ago
Except that´s not how things work. Never at any point during gameplay will the whole world be rendered in FH, it´s only a set distance that is, and from what we´ve seen, Driveclubs backgroundds, which sport a huge draw distance,might even be as big as the ones being rendered in FH, and guess what, they´re more detailed, and every single cloud, wind draft, weather condition is calculated real time, with an actual to scale atmosphere between the tracks and the sky( clouds are full-on 3d models by the way).
TheRedButterfly  +   416d ago

Welcome to N4G - where sensible levelheadedness takes a back seat to the majority's blind loyalty. (But I'm sure you're aware of this. Even your comment is getting the flack, simply by agreeing.)
showtimefolks  +   417d ago
DC will look much better its a true next gen racer. Both will be fun to play. FH2 is an open world while DC is a my kind of dedicated racer

I am just stunned how amazing DC looks, in a way it reminds me of PGR series(and the developers from PGR are at evolution studios now)
IrishSt0ner  +   417d ago
Drive Club looks insane good and wins in practically every visual aspect.

I'm happy with 2 racing games in the same timeframe though.
stuna1  +   417d ago
^^^This is the balanced comment that's unbiased! No racing game will be perfect! If you like what FH2 is offering buy it when it releases even if you have to drop the cash for a Xbox1 or upgrade your PC.

If you like what DC is offering buy it when it releases even if you have to drop the cash for a PS4. Both will offer value to racing enthusiast on both consoles and both look good.
Kribwalker  +   417d ago
From the videos I saw yesterday I'd say DC looks better, but I'd also say the physics look like crap. You bounce off of everything. Other cars, side rails, hitting the signs do nothing either. Maybe in looks DC is better, but the physics looks like junk. Don't believe me, what the video again, with an open mind, then get back to me
acdramon  +   417d ago
Well, since it's an arcade racer by design, DriveClub doesn't make cars completely break down from too much damage. The damage effects will still be there (layers of paint chipping off, deformation etc.) but this is one of the many ways Evo tackled evening the playing field among all people.
VforVideogames  +   417d ago
Well lets see:
DC has 50 cars
FH2 has 200+ cars
DC can't customize cars
FH2 can customize cars
DC on road only racer
FH2 open world racer
DC has no damage on cars
FH2 has full mechanical and cosmetic damage
DC has no drivatars
FH2 drivatars
DC has no car clubs
FH2 has a 1000 car club members
DC no split screen
FH2 split screen
Both games are locked at 1080p and 30fps
so which one looks better on screen? DriveClub
gameplay and value? Forza Horizon 2
so which one to get?
KinjoTakemura  +   417d ago
DriveClub does have damage. As for being able to drive where ever you want to, who in the world would want to drive a super car off road like you can in FH2? It just adds unrealistic gameplay to it's unrealistic looks.

Would you want to drive this car off road? For what?

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Godmars290  +   417d ago
"so which one to get?"

The one you own the system for, since neither is worth the sole reason to buy an XB1 or PS4.

Likewise this "discussion" is pointless with both sides acting on misinformed bias.
TheFanboySlayer  +   417d ago
"DC has no car clubs"

-_____- the game is called DriveCLUB

you fail....
LogicStomper  +   416d ago

"who in the world would want to drive a super car off road like you can in FH2?"

Firstly for this argument, you have to take into account that there are more people that play racing games than people who drive super cars.


Also, just to add 'realism' to the argument:


So in actual fact, there are people who want to drive super cars off-road for your information.

" It just adds unrealistic gameplay to it's unrealistic looks."

Absolutely flawed. You're saying that it's unrealistic to have super cars off-road. Well if you look back at the first two videos, it clearly shows two 'real' super cars off-road. Also to add, lets just assume that having super-cars off-road is unrealistic, how do you combat the situation? Invisible walls at off-road areas? Barricades that miraculously show up every time you drive in a super cars? Invisible walls and barricades that show up every time you're in a super car sounds pretty realistic. /s

I actually don't know why people agreed with you. If you (as a reader) did agree with Kinjo, I'm actually keen to know why.
iiorestesii  +   411d ago
No drivatars?
hiredhelp  +   417d ago
Seen it all now 3 pages of people battling it out on witch game has better Raindrops?.. Lol
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Elit3Nick  +   416d ago
You forget which site this is right?
Ninver  +   416d ago
"people?" their mindless puppets
DoubleM70  +   417d ago
You dummies it's not even raining in Forza2. Don't you all see the sun is about to come back out. You all do know you going to see rainbow coming out in the Forza2 footage.
dkgaby69  +   416d ago
Always remember Watchdogs
assdan  +   416d ago
It's hard to tell because of the fact that neither gif is in 1080p, which annoys the crap out of me when an article tries to compare graphics. I will say though that the water definitely looks far better on the hood of the car in DC, considering it's treated like a fluid and not a static marble. I'd say reflections are more realistic in DC, considering that the hood of a car isn't a mirror like it is in FH2. Lighting is hard to compare because the gifs are at different times of day. DC's environment appears to be more detailed as well. What I'll say is this. While looking at the DC gif, I could see how someone would mistaken it for an actual video, where as FH2 still has the video gamey look to its textures. Can't wait to see full res gifs and screenshots. That will make the differences very apparent.
Also just from a shear power perspective, we know that DC has to look better.
The Shadow  +   416d ago
DC is more dynamic and much beautiful and realistic

Also the water droplets in FH2 stick on the hood surface doesn't react that way in real.
2pacalypsenow  +   417d ago | Well said
is that really how Drive club looks?? :-O wow!!!! not even a comparison DC obliterates FO
Qrphe  +   417d ago
DC has had a much longer development cycle, not that it would've helped FH that much anyway.
THE-COMMANDER  +   417d ago
Both look great but as the article states its the detailed effects that gives driveclub the advantage.

Im really happy to see evolution studio raising the bar with driveclub, a huge step from motorsrorm. Can't wait for this!
KionicWarlord222  +   417d ago
Both look good but this comparison is kinda unfair.

In forza horizon 2 its sunny in that gif but in driveclub its stormy/foggy at a different time of the day.

A better comparison would be horizon 2 raining and foggy at the same time as driveclubs.
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MysticStrummer  +   417d ago
It's honestly kind of unfair anyway, since FH2 is an open world game vs DC's more traditional tracks. You can see the difference in everything, not just the raindrops. DC runs laps around FH2's visuals.
ramiuk1  +   417d ago
it looks better than forza 5 aswell though,best looking racer period
MysticStrummer  +   417d ago
Yes it does. Visually, DC's initial gameplay reveal was more impressive than F5's release.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   417d ago
I agree with Mystic.

Visually DC looks better than FH2.
bigbic  +   417d ago
This video around 2:08 looks like the fog aspect in Horizon 2...
Probably a better comparison for Drive Club in this article.

Geoff900  +   416d ago
It's amusing to compare two games that very few on N4G have actually played, and even then it's more about gameplay.

Edit, I do think DC looks better than FH2, but seeing games in motion makes a massive difference, than watching a video.
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BitbyDeath  +   417d ago
DC but in fairness Forza is a crossgen game so it never really stood a chance.
Highlife  +   417d ago
Actually two different developers and two different engines so no excuses.
Majin-vegeta  +   417d ago
TBH both versions are being done by two different teams so yes it;s fair.
IHassounah  +   417d ago
actually in real fairness , FH2 is an open world game , DC is a one tracked game , given to that this comparison is invalid .
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Flutterby  +   417d ago | Well said
Yet somehow infamous second son which is open world looks better and plays better than ryse which was linear as a hallway and about as fun as a stubbed toe.
G20WLY  +   417d ago
So? How much of that open world do you think is being rendered at any one time?

Let's pretend for a moment that they have identical draw distances. If they had the same assets they would experience the same strain, open world or not.

Except the world in DC is far more detailed... in all fairness! :^)
snookiegamer  +   417d ago

Okay, have it your way. Scrap comparing Drive Club to Forza Horizon 2 since it is open world.

Let's just compare Drive Club to Forza 5.

Drive Club wins...is that better?
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IHassounah  +   416d ago
@snookiegamer yah , that's actually better :)
Speak_da_Truth  +   417d ago
LOL Really??? ok DC Destroys it lighting everything not that FH2 looks bad but next to DC sorry its no comparison
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RichardDawkins  +   417d ago
Driveclub annihilates ForzaHorizon2. There shouldn't even be a comparison.
skoorydook  +   417d ago
raindrops, seriously
RichardDawkins  +   417d ago
Yes. When Forza Horizon 2 announced it had "dynamic weather" first and Driveclub's weather came as "DLC" shortly after the launch, people were criticizing DC for being an "unfinished game. Now Driveclub has shown us it's weather is better and people are like.."raindrops, seriously".
skoorydook  +   417d ago
What are you babbling on about stop being so defensive, my comment had absolutely nowt to do with sticking up for one and downplaying the other it was referring to that people are now comparing raindrops, whats next snowflakes, how branches on trees blow in different wind speeds or how about if different tyres leave a different patern on the surface water depending on tyre brand, in case you haven't got it yet I think its a tad too far
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G20WLY  +   417d ago
^"whats next snowflakes, how branches on trees blow in different wind speeds..."

Yes. Why not? Is it too much to ask for attention to detail on our new next gen machines? Why should we not be interested in how far the developers have striven to create a believable world for us to enjoy in our games?

I find it interesting and it seems others do too.
Spotie  +   417d ago
They're comparable features on comparable games.

When they do comparisons of cars, they even compare mundane things like the locations of cup holders.
mcstorm  +   417d ago
@skoorydook its not worth it this site is just full of mine is better than yours. I cant wait for Forza Horizon 2 as Forza Horizon was for me the best racing game of last gen and this look to improve on it. I am still on the fence with DriveClub as it is not quite what I thought it was going to be but im going to wait until I get a chance to play it before saying its not for me.

I do find it funny though how people move to the smallest things when comparing games. Its gone from res, fps, now to rain drops it is really like a load of school kids on this site. I think gaming was better when it was seen as a geek thing there was less crap said about games and more fun in talking about them.
skoorydook  +   417d ago
I'm getting both, prob day 1 for both, I just don't see the point in even comparing the core experiences of the two games one is a sim and one is an arcade racer, can't remember people comparing NFS to Forza or PGR to GT.

There are places in people's collections for both as both offer different experiences, I want to get all serious and tune,paint and do things like alter my gear ratio depending if the race is suited to top speed or acceleration then I play Forza, I want to defy the laws of physics and power slide round a hairpin approaching 100mph I play Driveclub but you're correct school kids would rather give each other a reach around and high five over raindrops.
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iR_phantasm  +   417d ago
U have got to b sh*tting me...
LogicStomper  +   416d ago
Gonna be comparing them trees next.
98xpresent  +   417d ago
That's pretty obvious . 1 looks like a cgi trailer & the other just looks good
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corvusmd  +   417d ago
They both look great, it's actually a rather close call...but when you realize that FH2 is an openworld racer with 200+ cars, seamless online play, voice controled GPS, tune-able cars, drive-atars, and weather effects at launch...it becomes much less of a comparison. It's clear that DC is aiming for just a more straight-forward racer, where as FH2 has much more going on. It's not quite the straight forward comparison one might think.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   417d ago

Forza as far as we know has a little more going for it.
tuglu_pati  +   417d ago
I have to agree with you.

DC looks incredible and there is no doubt about that but comparing an open world racing game to a controlled environment game which has just cosmetic damage, no tune-able cars, only 50 cars to name a few things is not a fair comparison i mean is obvious DC is using most of the PS4 processing power on graphics.

Now with that said, DC looks more impressive than FH2 graphic wise.
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slasaru01  +   417d ago
You can also see that Horizon has better draw distance. In DC mountains and far environments are always in fog, not just these rainy screenshots, but on all of the others as well. I understand, it's another "artistic" method which saves power and lets you focus on closer things on the screen.
Tedakin  +   417d ago
This is what it's come to. Comparing drops of rain.
98xpresent  +   417d ago
Yesssss .And They look a whole lot better on DC
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Tedakin  +   417d ago
Forza Horizon 2 will be a better game ;)
98xpresent  +   417d ago
The first one was really good !
No_Limit  +   417d ago
Blame it on the rain - Milli Vanilli (or whoever sang for them)

OT, it is all good, the last thing I'll be concern with is how the raindrops look when I am speeding down the road. DC has better rain, I gotta to admit but Forza Horizon 2 has more cars and is an open world racer. Pick your poison.
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user7402931  +   417d ago
yea...DC all the way
KakashiHotake  +   417d ago
Wow this is no contest. I think the gap in power of the two consoles is going to start becoming a lot more noticeable from here on out.
slasaru01  +   417d ago
Exactly my thought! Compare 200 cars vs 50, number of tracks differs drastically with the open world, collision and environmental damage physics in Horizon, plus half powered simulation from original Forza, GPS, car tuning, better draw distance. Now every objective gamer should see the gap in power.
hobohunterz  +   417d ago
Just stop...
GTgamer  +   417d ago
You doooo know the amount of cars doesn't have anything to do with the power of the console righhhhht it has more to do with the time the Devs Had because if that was the case PS3 was the strongest console in yhe world since that game has a 1000 cars.
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Bathyj  +   417d ago | Funny
Driveclubs rain drops take into account the gravitational pull of the moon as well as the Coriolis Effect, reflecting whether the car is in the Northern or Southern hemisphere.

Im pretty sure the rain has more salt if youre closer to the coast as well reducing the chances of it turning to sleet.

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fr0sty  +   417d ago
This is evolution studios we're talking about...

"The cloud cover and conditions you choose will dictate how much snow and rain will fall. The wind direction and speed determines where snow will settle. Then when it stops, the temperature and height of the sun governs how quickly clouds evaporate and roads dry out. We’re really striving for consistency in every detail just like we have done with everything else in the game.

You can expect every one of those and you can expect it to change dynamically and unpredictably while you race – because we’ve designed it to be just like real weather systems. Spots of rain can become torrential downpours or transition into blizzards, quickly or slowly, and when the clouds clear up the tracks will dry out too.

So if you’re in Norway, for example, you’ll face heavier snow when you’re racing atop the mountains and much lighter snow or sleet when you descend to a lower altitude. Lots of things play into this, like elevation, wind speed and temperature. We can even adjust all the way to zero visibility conditions too – the only limit will be the need to balance things for fun and usability."
Flutterby  +   417d ago
I am pretty sure after this comparison the rain in forza has more salt lol
snookiegamer  +   417d ago

Lay off calling people a Douche 'Pixie Dust' LOL ;)


Both games have awesome weather effects, but I think DC has more advanced/realistic effects ;)
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Clover904  +   417d ago
lmfao. Bubbles for you, not that you need any more :)
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Tedakin  +   417d ago
You're comparing raindrops in 2 completely different games. This isn't a fair judgement at all. Yeah DC looks better. But it's a totally different game with a different engine, different developer and different art style. It's sunny in one video, cloudy in the other. DC is a linear racer. Forza is an open world where you can go anywhere. Why not compare Sunset Overdrive and GTA5 to see which has more realistic character models. This is ridiculous.
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Speak_da_Truth  +   417d ago
You said "Forza Horizon 2 will be a better game ;)" even without both games being release yet but you are quik complaining about the comparisons. Both games are striving for realism in their visuals so I think the comparison is legitimate and DC comes out on top.
Dehnus  +   417d ago
He said that in reply to another trollish argument replied to his original comment. But that you leave out of course.
beerzombie  +   417d ago
I think one can make a good educated guess. Both games will be at least good, because both developers have a history of making good racing games.
MasterCornholio  +   417d ago
So you would prefer if people compared Driveclub to a launch title like Forza 5?
GTgamer  +   417d ago
And the winner is DC
Daz  +   417d ago
forza 5 is 60fps so it wont work ;p and a launch game that is not delayed a year.
Masterh0ppa  +   417d ago
DC better looks fh better game just gonna prefer the better game.
bigbic  +   417d ago
Nobody knows how fun either game is yet... All we know is how they look.
imt558  +   417d ago
Well, in FH2, sunlight reflection on the hood is pretty muddy. Environment reflection on the hood is pretty clean, but sunlight is odd.
jhoward585  +   417d ago
DC weather demo was taken from an early build of the game. Still, it looks better than forza 2.

The final build of DC is going to destroy FH2.
_LarZen_  +   417d ago
Both look good. But DC look's more realistic.
MysticStrummer  +   417d ago
lol @ Those above comparing two games that aren't out yet and making definite statements about which is a better game.

Funny stuff.
snookiegamer  +   417d ago

Lol ikr,

The funiest one I read was...

'DC looks better, FH2 is the better game, just gonna prefer the better game'.

How dumb is that?
Rimeskeem  +   417d ago
Ok first off they both look amazing and there is no doubt about that. But if for some stupid reason you are only looking for the visuals per dollar ratio. It's DC. Although the comparison is a bit unfair you can still tell that the raindrops and visuals are better in DC.
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brotherlymoses  +   417d ago
DC looks better, but Forzoa horizon will be an overall better game, visuals don't mean a thing *cough* RYSE *cough* killzone
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windblowsagain  +   417d ago
Killzone2 is an awesome game. 3 wasn't bad.

SF story isn't good enough. MP is good in places. Weapons are too big on the screen imo.


Yeah nextgen rain. lol.

Who can make the biggest splash. Kinda getting silly.
FlyShootRaceSims  +   417d ago
We're comparing raindrops now?
D3ATH_DRIV3R_777  +   417d ago
Ank666  +   417d ago
DriveClub is a track only NextGen. Game running on superior Ram & GPU
FH2 is an open world CrossGen. Game running on a lesser Ram & GPU

There was never a comparison to begin with
DoubleM70  +   417d ago
No FH2 is not a cross-gen game. It built from the ground up on X1 engine. FH2 is totally different game on 360 do some research.
Ank666  +   412d ago
Lol give link
& I heard same thing for TitanFall before

So please
MultiConsoleGamer  +   417d ago
Drive Club. Hands down.

But one is linear and the other is open world, which is very demanding.
koliosis  +   417d ago
Dc for now...
Nik_P757  +   417d ago
This is the first I've seen of the weather in DC and it looks really good, I'm glad they took the extra time with it. It shows in the detail.
Swiggins  +   417d ago
Driveclub definitely looks good, but come on people...raindrops...seriously ...

Gotta love them one-bubble Sony-Faithful users who just cannot help but chime in.
Nik_P757  +   417d ago
I think it's the level of detail of the rain. I understand what you're saying but it's still pretty impressive that the raindrops are that detailed.
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