Xbox One: Microsoft Talks Cloud Game Streaming Potential

NowGamer: "Microsoft has hinted at the potential that lies in the marriage between cloud technology and game streaming, but will they announce a PS Now equivalent?"

[majorkilljoy]

if they do i would laugh so hard at sony fanboy responses

[ArchangelMike]

Well they do say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

[PixelNinja]

So Sony is imitating OnLine?

[bigbic]

Cloud game streaming on consoles is a good thing now. Hard to keep up around here.

[akaFullMetal]

@ PixelNinja

Sony bought Gaikia and now implementing it to their playstation network. How is that imitating???
Especially since Gaikia was before Onlive?
I'm unsure what you are trying to convey?

[ThePope]

@akaFUll

Your right its not imitating Sony because all Sony did was BUY a streaming service. If anything its imitating Gaikia.

[bigbic]

^
Sony didn't imitate. They came up with their own console game streaming model and system through a company they bought. Just because there were other game streaming services doesn't mean they copied a service or business model.

[kayoss]

You can laugh all you want, but Sony has proven that game streaming is a very likely possibility through PS Now. They even showed and had beta testing for it as well. Cloud gaming and cloud computing on the other hand...

Still laughing???

[JBSleek]

Did you not see the MS BUILD conference when they showed cloud computations on destructibility of surrounding area all running on the cloud?

[KillerByte23]

No Sony has proven to Microsoft not to have ridiculous prices and kill the service before it was officially launched.

[Godmars290]

@JBSleek:
They showed something post launch of the system they needed to show pre-launch. This arguing wouldn't be as bad as it is otherwise.

[bigbic]

@KillerByte23

The irony in that comment, seeing how Microsoft nearly killed the Xbox before it launched.

[Evilsnuggle]

jbsleek@

I'm sitting here Still Laughing at you xbonefanyboys ! WOW Microsoft show a high in PC running a demo of a plain low end graphic full Destructible Environments running at 30fps not 60fps in a controlled environment. And the xbonefanyboys call it the second coming of christ. Wow you xbonefanboys are so easily impressed. You do know many games already have full destructible environment without POWA OF DA CLOUD. Red Faction: Armageddon , Red Faction , Battleflied bad company 2, Black , Battleflied 4 is in 60fps without the POWA OF DA CLOUD . You would not need the POWA OF DA CLOUD if xbone didn't have such a weak GPU in it .The cloud is nothing but more DRM by Microsoft . What happens if you'er internet goes down or what about when Microsoft drops server support for these games that need POWA OF DA CLOUD to play . You will be left with a worthless game disk you with no value just the way Microsoft wants and planned all the time . DRM 2.0 or the cloud putting worthless features that you don't really need or really improve the game just like titanfall. So Microsoft can have more control over you and your games.

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[BX81]

@ kayoss
Still laughing like when SF won the Super Bowl last year?

[kayoss]

@bx81
Damn that one hurts. I'll give you that. Now Seattle can say they belong in the NFL and finally be considered a team.

[turdburgler1080]

How's that $6 for five hours of gaming treating you? Everyone already knew game streaming worked. It was called gaikai and Sony bought them so they could play you. Playedstation, where gamers go to get played:p

[KinjoTakemura]

Why would anyone say anything worth laughing at? Microsoft can use it's cloud tech any way it chooses.

[Godmars290]

Why, when Sony has only been talking about using cloud servers for game streaming, while MS promoted vast general improvements for new IPs.

Now, after too many other sources have called them on such BS and they themselves have begun to backtrack on premier claims they wont be able to deliver on for years yet, its suppose to be a bad thing that they're jumping on the "me too" streaming bandwagon with Sony?

That its somehow a bad thing *for* Sony?

[kamakaz3md]

See you have to wait to laugh, were already laughing at xbox. Have fun with your toy.

[Spotie]

I'm already laughing. At you.

[Eonjay]

It would be funny because Phil Spencer has said that that wasn't something they were looking to do and that they were wondering how Sony would overcome the obstacles.

[user5669510]

this sounds like onlive.soo everyone bashed onlive a couple of years ago now everyone is accepting it. its funny that with onlive the better your connection the better the gfx, but with these they will keep the gfx settings, gotta love downgrades they are happy to receive them. sony didnt invent cloud base gaming too.

[TheSaint]

I wish they would show us some actual evidence of it running live.

They have said a lot but shown us next to nothing.

[Kayant]

I will wait for the next demo instead of words.....

And also it's not cheap for devs well at least non XB1 devs.

$75 a day for 100,000 users = about $576,000 a year. That pretty much shows me the potential....

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[stuna1]

No offense Kayant but his tweet said $75 an hour.

[Kayant]

Oh damn you're right I didn't even notice that that's even worst then. Wide spread use is far out.

[JBSleek]

MS should do two things if they are serious about dominating the living room and taking Apple, Amazon, and Google on.

1. Release Xbox TV a $99-$129 set-top box that uses a remote that has voice commands powered by Bing and Cortana. Connect Xbox ecosystem into the box and have HDMI in to layer One Guide over the TV as well.

2. Release Xbox Cloud- A subscription service that utilizes the cloud to play certain Xbox games.

Do it MS! Google is making a big push for the living room.

[kamakaz3md]

I thought xbox one was a TV? A home entertainment device. And you want me to buy a xbox TV? So thats 399 for an xbox one, 200 for a kinect 2, and 129 for a TV device? Yea, that should help take on sony...

[Bizzare21]

Where did you hear that Kinect was $200 for the Xbox One? lol

[JBSleek]

1. If you have an Xbox One you wouldn't need the Xbox TV. The Xbox TV is really for people who would never buy an Xbox One at such an expensive price.

2. I don't know the price of Kinect for Xbox One but I doubt it will be $200

3. MS cares much more about competing with Google and Apple then they do Sony. That's just fact. Yes Sony and MS are competing in the console market but overall control of the living room is a battle between Apple, Google, Amazon, MS.

[GameSpawn]

@Bizzare21

The $200 price point is based on the rumored price for the standalone Kinect 2.0 for PC. People are doing this because the standalone Kinect for 360 was fairly close in price to the one for PC.

You can be assured it will retail alone for more than $100, most realistically $150 (incentivising purchasing it with the console up front with $50 of savings and also effectively making PC users shell out $50 more for the adapters to connect it to their PC).

[kamakaz3md]

Either way, it was stupid that microsoft shoved kinect 2 down your throat at Xbone launch. At this point they are just trying to do anything they can to compete with the best selling system. Why would MCSFT compete with google and apple... there competing with sony hands down like always. Im gonna buy an xbox one, but the system isnt as great as ps4.... numbers dont lie!

[Cueil]

When OnLive changed hands Microsoft hired a bunch of the guys who were laid off... not saying that this is coming but they have people who know how to do it.

[kamakaz3md]

microsoft talks trying to do what sony is doing, but hoping to do it just in time with better pricing, but wont!

[Illusive_Man]

I'm sure MS is considering cloud streaming. The Azure platform is one of the most robust server platforms in the world, and MS needs to leverage its capabilities in not just enterprise but in home entertainment and games. They need to go streaming and cloud compute, now. Google and Amazon won't be far behind so the time to strike is now.

[turdburgler1080]

I talked to a fella who was at an internal demo at MS campus where they showed halo 4 streaming on a Windows phone at 40ms.

[akaFullMetal]

That would be funny, and hopefully it would drop prices because of competition.

[i3eyond the Circle]

I believe full Xbox 360 backwards capabilities for Xbox one will be here soon.

It reads the DVD9 and renders the title from the cloud...no having to rent at retarded rates, play the games you own, keep 360 physical and digital sales in the loop and falls right in line with DX12s 2day porting possibilities from Xbox to PC and vice versa.

[Menkyo]

If PSNOW becomes a hit MS will jump on the wagon and honestly I see streaming as the future of the rental service if the rental service want to stay around. I like PSNOW I got to play the first darksiders using it. It wprked out great but with data caps coming in universally across America its going to kill these kinds of services.

[JBSleek]

America shouldn't have such archaic ISPs that you let allow to simply get away with such nonsense...

[Menkyo]

There is no such thing as allow dude that just do it and there is no way to stop it.

[JBSleek]

I thought America was all about freedom and known for standing up when something is wrong. What your ISPs are doing to you is insane. You could do something about or do nothing.

"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of those who do nothing."

[Menkyo]

Yeah thats all well and good but the reality it of internet access is, there are three major companies and the majority of people only have one provider available. So you can go without or pay the piper most americans are lazy and just pay the piper then bitch about. its sucks but it seem the supreme court, FCC and our government dont really care about internet freedoms. Hell man most people here are willing to give up their consumer rights because digital download is more convinant. The will of the American people pretty much is what ever is more convinant or less of a hassle thats what they will do. Dont worry it will happen where ever you live too before long.

[Codewow]

Everyone here seems like they think Sony was alone in the idea of game streaming. I'm sure Microsoft had it in the works the same time Sony did. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft was just letting Sony burn themselves out. After all, Microsoft isn't the one losing tons of money on multiple divisions.

[sovietsoldier]

i hope this means no installs so my hard drive can rest easy.

[Morgue]

With all this talk MS has been boasting for months about the " cloud " it's seems like it's time for that age old saying.

" Either put up or shut up "

[corvusmd]

This isn't actually a new thing. MS said that it could be used to stream games since before the console game out. They are just looking into if it's a good idea or not.

@Menkyo "If PSNOW becomes a hit MS will jump on the wagon" you realize that game streaming is not a Sony idea right? It's not new and MS has already experimented with the tech...even streaming Halo 4 to a phone well over a year ago. At this point it's not an ability issue...it's a "is it a good idea" issue. So yes...they may let Sony test the waters and see if it's a good idea. I just hope you're not thinking it's an innovation-follow-the-leader type deal.

[Kavorklestein]

I believe it when you say they ran Halo 4 on a windows phone. Absolutely.

I remember playing Darksiders streaming from OnLive on my Samsung Galaxy S2 like three years ago, and it totally worked. I had to get used to the controls, but I got extremely far into the game, and I was playing on a 2 out of 4 bars- 4G connection... Granted, I had moments where I would have to let things catch up or wait for the screen to update to what it SHOULD be showing, a little ghosting from time to time, but seriously, it worked, and that was with No wifi. People blow the latency argument out of proportion. Period.

They also are just plain stupid if they think number crunching about how things will/won't work to a Geekish level is going to do more for them than just waiting and seeing what the future holds.

I beg you, fellow gamers, don't pretend to be more than a gamer, and shut the fuck up and wait like the rest of us.

"We'll wait and see what happens" is the ONLY logic that can be applied here.
I've said this time and time again on N4G.

Wait and see, because people used to think the world was flat.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

PR campaign, is out in full F0rCE with this one.

Pre-Pare, to p(L)ay,.

"monetization models" & "the shift to Games-as-a-Service"

prepare to Pay, my friends,

Trust M$, pay to play-online-, timed exclusives, drop of support, DRM, & Kinect2.000 /water.cooler?/ ???4.99???GliTcH dEm0 @by M$/EA

(link to "quote" http://n4g.com/news/1544321...

[kingPoS]

Well... it was bound to happen MS too. Look around the internet today and tell me that streaming media isn't becoming more prevalent. From music to videos.. and now videogames, streaming sure has come a long ways. I'll admit, when netflix first started streaming video I don't know what to think of it and just mostly ignored it, now it's known as the go to service that lets you binge to your heart's content.

So while some couldn't care less right now about Sony & possibly MS streaming games right now, things might change in few years time.

Gateway MT6706 2008