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No 1080p on Xbox One Due To Memory Bandwidth/ESRAM/RAM, No Definite To DX12 Resolution Benefit

"Resolution-gate has been one of the hottest topic of discussion of new generation consoles war, many developers have openly admitted that due to ESRAM, they were unable to lock their games in native 1080p resolution on Xbox One as compared to the Playstation 4, where almost all games run at 1080p. Recently, Stardock's CEO Brad Wardell spoke about why developers are unable to hit 1080p on Xbox One, benefits of DirectX 12 and a lot of more things."

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Geobros720d ago

Bad news for xbox one owners....

The_Infected720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Not really. As long as the games are great and fun to play it's not a big deal.

In reference to the article.

Forza 5 1080p/60
Halo 5 1080p/60
Halo: MCC 1080/60
Outlast 1080p/60
Diablo 3 1080p/60
Wolfenstein 1080p/60
Forza Horizon 2 1080p/30

They are games that aren't 1080p but don't say 1080p isn't possible on Xb1 because it is.

sam_job720d ago

Call of Duty: Ghosts, Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs, even exclusive like Titanfall... and many more at lower resolution, some at 792p.. Upcoming games: PES 2015, Middle Earth Shadow Of Mordor, Battlefield: Hardline and many more confirmed to be running at 1080p on PS4 but developers still not sure about Xbox One

The_Infected720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

@sam_job

Was I comparing it to PS4? No. I said in reference to the article saying no 1080p on Xbox One was bull. I named plenty of 1080p games and more to come.

NextLevel720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Xbox One exclusives
Dead Rising 3 720p @ 30fps
Forza Motorsport 5 1080p @ 60fps (Downgraded)
Killer Instinct 720p @ 60fps
Kinect Sports Rivals 1080p @ 30fps 
Ryse: Son of Rome 900p @ 30fps
Sunset Overdrive 900p @ 30fps
Halo 5 - The E3 trailer mentions 60FPS, not 1080p

Cross gen

NFS - Cross gen
FIFA - Cross gen
Halo CA - Mobile port
Dying Light - Cross gen
NBA - Cross gen
TombRaider - Cross gen
Rayman - Cross gen
Wolfenstein - Cross gen
Murdered Soul Suspect - Cross gen
Child of Light - Cross gen
The Lego Movie Videogame - Cross gen
Forza Horizon - Cross gen
Destiny - Cross gen
Alien Isolation - Cross gen
Titanfall - 792p 60FPS

Most of the cross gen games are 1080p. Aside from Forza 5 which was downgraded, Kinect Sports Rivals is the only Xbox One exclusive in 1080p. So yeah, the Xbox One does have 1080p problems, no matter how badly you don't want to think it doesn't. Most of those games have frame rate problems aswell.

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Xsilver720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Forza 5 1080p/60 we all know how it achieved that :/.

Halo 5 1080p/60 can we wait til the game is close or to release before putting anything in stone.

Halo:MCC im just saying if a remastered collection isn't 1080p/60 then that's a problem tbh.

Diablo3 1080p/60 http://n4g.com/news/1544533... seems reaper of souls might not be.

Wolfenstein 1080p/60 awesome game but graphically doesn't look that demanding since the PS3/360 veriosn are very close to the Xone/PS4 version.

Outlast 1080p/60 i find this funny since xbox fans don't count indie games because apparently their so easy to make -_-.

Forza Horizon2 1080p/60 after what they did to forza 5 ill wait to see the retail version before final judgment.

but hey that's not my Business http://theshadesofsuccess.c... this Tea Tho

kurruptor720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Diablo 3 is only 900p.
Racing games are easy to hit 1080p.
An indie title.
Wolfenstein isn't fully 1080p.

Why even release new systems if graphics don't matter. You wouldn't mind if games were still 480 or 640 resolution?

Volkama720d ago

Diablo 3 is 900p on XBox One, and Wolfenstein has a variable resolution on both consoles (but dips lower on the One).

But it is a bit of a falacy that the ESRAM makes it hard to hit 1080p. It is the DDR3 that it is trying to compensate for that causes the problem.

At a recent techy event MS and AMD hosted Microsoft listed their 4 steps that are key to using ESRAM well, and also noted that pretty much nobody has got as far as using the 4th step yet. It was to do with asynchronsously moving data in and out of ESRAM. If it is true that nobody is doing this yet then there is potentially room for improvement, but really I haven't got the slightest idea how much it will help.

The other obvious way to up the resolution is to reduce the frame buffer, which can be achieved by using forward rendering rather than deferred rendering for lighting and shaders. But I am fairly sure Unreal Engine 4 only natively supports deferred rendering for lighting.

It will be interesting to see how the first wave of UE4 games perform across both consoles, since it looks like Epic's baby will be a very common choice as this gen matures.

DanzoSAMA720d ago

and:
Destiny 1080p/30fps
FIFA 15 1080p/60fps
battlefield HL 1080/60fps

and many games targeting 1080p on Xbox ONE:

Assassins CU 1080p/60fps
Call of Duty AW 1080/1080p/60fps

PONTIAC08G8GT720d ago

I know I buy games based on resolution. Gameplay is useless. If it's not pretty, it's garbage. When I am playing a game, like BF for instance, I generally stand in one place and stare at a wall, tree, rock, and think "wow, that doesn't look as good as if it was in 1080p" and then I get shot in the head because I'm not playing the game. Same thing in Titanfall, when stuff is blowing up all around me and it's hectic and frantic, I like to take a break to really get close to the enemies titan and look at the detail. I don't battle, I just look at it and think "wow, 1080p would make this game 100X better."

Get over it people, stop crapping your pants about which games are/aren't 1080p. If it's fun to play, that's what matters. Seeing the extra detail in a stick shouldn't determine which system you buy. Buy based on the games since that's why your purchasing a system.

Nekroo91720d ago

You dont know the resolution of Halo 5 or the fps. During the MS presentation the 1080p/60p statement was for the Halo Collection xbox and xbox 360 games.

Outlast doesent run at 60fps because it constratly drops

And Wolfenstein changes resolution

morganfell720d ago

@The_Infected,

Why did you list Diablo 3 at 1080p on the X1 when it is 900p?

And have you had a change of heart about the importance of resolution? According to your post history it matters...a lot.

Remember your posts about Forza? God of War III? Do you really want me to start listing these? Apparently you went and bought an X1 this gen and now are singing a different song. Well, singing but out of tune.

pyramidshead720d ago

No-one mentioned anything about whether the games would be fun to play or not. That's not the discussion at hand. Although it is a very popular line when certain users don't want to address the matter, or at least fully admit the Xbone's short comings in the hardware area.

Jumper09720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Diablo 3 is 900p on Xbone.
Halo 5 is not confirmed 1080p, only 60fps. So most likely 900p or lower.
Halo 2 Anniversary Campaign probably wont reach 1080p and that 1080p claim got deleted in silence on the official Site. So MCC stuff unconfirmed until its out.

Outlast is UE3, so lol
Wolfenstein drops Resolution a lot on Xbone.

@DanzoSAMA
Battlefield Hardline is not confirmed 1080p on Xbone and it wont be 1080p on Xbone. Closed Beta was 900p on PS4 and had a worse performance than BF4.

Destiny probably has less good looking stuff in the Xbone Version.

CoD AW is not targeting 1080p on Xbone, most likely will be 900p (E3 footage is 882p)

AssCreed unity wont be 1080p AND 60fps, not on Xbone. Dont believe in Ubisoft claims.

ramiuk1720d ago

it matters to me.
im playing on a 106" screen and ps4 games look amazing in 1080p native but when bro-inlaw poped round with xbone titanfall was a mess,graphics was horrible and hurt the eyes.
ryse looked decent but had better textures.

but at end of day as people have bigger tvs,resolution DOES matter alot

HighResHero720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

I agree The_infected and I'm not even sure I'll be buying one yet(Halo collection looks tempting though!).
Granted fanboys from both sides seem to need something to argue about, so why not argue about which console has the best or most fun games.
Arguing/focusing on technical perfection has done a lot to stifle creativity, while quality devs have shown that there can be a balance between the two. Devs should consider this before they end up like Crytek.

kayoss720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Some of those games havent even been released yet.

TheWatercooler720d ago

Microsoft claimed that Halo 5 will be 1080p /60fps at E3 2013. I expect that to be the next Microsoft lie.

RosweeSon720d ago

But most of those are either launch games, or ports of old games wait until the new Next Gen games come xbox won't be able to do it, sorry new tomb raider and games like that are gonna struggle, I notice the tomb raider definitive edition wasn't in the list and if that port of a previous (admittedly amazing game) can't hit 1080p what hope is there of the new game achieving it and even if they do at what cost? Enjoy it all you like and yeah games aren't all about the graphics it's about the games hence why I'm more than happy to own a Wii U and 3DS both since launch as it's not all about the graphics hence why I waited til just before Christmas for a vita well worth the wait cheaper and loads of free games but back to the point it's about the games hence why not interested in xbox at the moment, games aren't up to scratch and the multiplatforms are being made better elsewhere, the whole idea of xbox1 and ps4 was it was meant to be the next step, Next gen not backwards, ps4 has been doing great just needs a few of those games now but xbox one, pffft I'll stick with the xbox 360 for now even that can do 1080p so why can't the revolutionary next iteration of the xbox consoles keep up? I don't know I don't really care I won't be buying one anytime soon, why would I? There still tinkering around with the price and what you get with the console, I'm sure there will be some new coloured xbox ones soon as we all know it's not about what the console can do it's all about what colour it is?!! But if they think that'll help them all the best to them, I'll get it once there's at least 3 games that are 9/10 and exclusive to the system, I'd struggle to think of more than 1 at the moment personally, maybe in a year or 2 sure but all the multiplatform games will be purchased on ps4 so Microsoft need some amazing exclusives to make me buy their console and it won't be all 4 halo' s on one disc, get Rare back to doing what they did best making good games not kinect crap.

bennissimo720d ago

OP, all correct.

I own both consoles and happily bounce back and forth between them. Right now, it's a nix of Transistor and Titanfall.

The only thing that could make me happier is an expanded PS4 AAA library.

UltimateMaster720d ago

I'll go on record and say the PS3 and Xbox 360 were also capable of 1080p. Devs decided to go another route, have better quality visuals over resolution.

ipach720d ago

Diablo 3 is 900p: http://www.joystiq.com/2014...

Wolfy is fancy, but not always 1080p:
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
(fancy dynamic horizontal scaling utilized more aggressively on X1, though I think these technologies are brilliantly efficient)

NFS was 1080p, as was Tomb Raider. You're right that 1080p is possible. But unfortunately, it doesn't look like it comes easily or without some trade-offs. In the end, it may not matter (no one complained about COD being sub 720p all those years on 360 after all).

Mouseketool720d ago

4 of those games havent released yet.

D-riders720d ago

Some of these games aren't even SAS titles or even confirmed resolution or even launched yet. Wow Xbox fanboy will do anything to make the system look better. 1080p 6th was achieved last Gen for a racer. So wth

assdan720d ago

Good job, you can name a few games that are in 1080p. It's attainable, you just have to sacrifice a lot more to do it. Also, there's some speculation that Halo 2's campaign won't be 1080p. On their website, as of a couple days ago, at least, no resolution is being offered. For microsoft, this is quite weird if the game is in 1080p. I say this because microsoft is shouting from the rooftops every time a game is 1080p and/or 60fps. Seriously watch e3, it's kind of hilarious. If a game isn't 60fps, they didn't mention the framerate. If a game isn't 1080p, they didn't mention the resolution. Which brings me to halo 5, which I don't believe will be 1080p either. At the e3 event, all they said was 60fps, which leads me to believe that they're hiding the resoluton. Also, I'm pretty sure the ps4 has a shorter list of games not in 1080p so...

FayZ_720d ago

what is stardock and why should we care for his opinion when he has not made a good game & your list clearly discredits his statements.

ZodTheRipper720d ago

It's a big deal no matter how you look at it. I've bought a Full HD TV 7 years ago and my PS3 already used the full resolution with Wipeout or Gran Turismo. Xbox One makes it look like it's hardly achieveable while even the WiiU can handle [email protected] easily (see Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2 or Smash Bros.)

Docknoss720d ago

Lolz at the disagrees infected. This article is just nonses. It's too early in the game to say what it can't do

GodGinrai720d ago

@nekroo

"You dont know the resolution of Halo 5 or the fps"

ey confirmed t last years E3, that halo 5 will run @60FPS...Try again.

Godmars290720d ago

Why is that in a "discussion" concerning 1080p, sub-1080p titles are being brought up in defense?

FanboyKilla720d ago

i think its embarrassing for a dev to blame a system for their own shortcomings. i mean why are others doing it then? shows your lack of talent, or laziness. finger pointing is for bitc*es and snitches. xbox 399. dont be that guy. its sad. l own wii u, xone, and ps4. im blessed thank god. my point is what in the hell can a article do for me? its someones opinion. my opinion trumps anything on n4g. my opinion is lmfao at playstation nation. you guys dont even seem to be talking about games these days. bla bla res bla bla fps bla bla bs. where your games at? do they suck? are they fun? will they ever be released? you know, the things that actually matter.

like i said before, i own a ps4. and you saying its the best isnt getting me off. i dont seem to care that the game is 1080p 60fps, i dont enjoy them. no matter how much i force feed myself. what good is a system capable of 1080p 60fps when there is no reason to turn it on. all it does is play games and any honest man who owns a ps4 will tell you its slim pickens. the best games on it you can play in other places. if im wrong help me. maybe there is a greatness awaits button on my ps4 i dont know about.

MichaelLito79720d ago

@infected don't forget Assassins creed, Destiny, Alien Isolation, TombRaider, NBA 2K15, Wolfenstein. Xbox One just starting to unlock potential. We not even out a full year. Lol

bicfitness720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Only on N4G can you get a "well said" for posting something that is utterly, factually incorrect. As many have stated, 2 of those games are known to be sub-1080p, and Halo 5 isn't even out yet, so any speculation on its resolution is just that: speculation.

@ MichaelLito79. I hope you're doing satire. Or is this an Xbox fanboy-brain-swelling-thing? Where their reason centers are damaged by the love they feel for their plastic machines?

Wolfenstein and Tomb Raider both use variable resolutions and drop effects to hit *at times* 1080p. They are not native.

alexkoepp720d ago

"I believe it's to do with memory bandwidth and not utilizing the ESram efficiently."

Efficiently. There you have it folks, more time and experience will yield better results. No mention of a bottleneck, just inefficiency seems to be the problem right now.

Even that aside, Xbox has the best games, best interface, and best online service. I'd be willing to sacrifice a few pixels here and there for those benefits. Best franchises alone is reason enough.

marcofdeath720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

Some time ago i told you that the PS4 will not match Forza motorsports 5, I didn't say this based upon a fantasy or biased. I based upon the numbers. Xbox one will overtake PS4 BASED UPON THE NUMBERS. Not your PR laden BS but the cold hard facts.

The only first party game from a Microsoft owned developeri Forza motorsports 5. There is a reason technically why no other game second party or third-party can match its graphic fidelity. I'm not talking about artistic influence, I'm talking about purely on a technical level, the game is unmatched by any.

First party studios get the best SDKs 1st, that is what you are seeing now pass to developers. Turn 10 and 343 Studios are now working on games from the new SDK. The full DX12.

Here's a fact some idiots here like Nextlevel quoted as saying FMS5 is a downgrade, but Driver Club a first party studio and over two in year development, without whether, without any type of simulation physics,and without dynamic light still cannot render at 1080P 60fps. Why? Nextlevel.

As I have told you the numbers show this. That's why he must say it's a downgrade at the end of the day we know this is shit as well because FH2 is doing everything Driver Club is supposed to do and it's open world.

Add no DOWNGRADES, so now what?

Rimeskeem720d ago

Forza 5 jot majorly downgraded

Halo: MCC is not actually 1080p

Metfanant720d ago

Oh they said Halo 5 was 1080p?....yeah didn't think so...

ziggurcat720d ago

@alex:

"'I believe it's to do with memory bandwidth and not utilizing the ESram efficiently.'

Efficiently. There you have it folks, more time and experience will yield better results. No mention of a bottleneck, just inefficiency seems to be the problem right now."

you misunderstood the quote. he's saying it has to do with memory bandwidth, *and* not utilizing esram efficiently. so even if they start efficiently utilizing the esram (which we all know they will because that's just common sense), there's still the issue of memory bandwidth.

Pogmathoin720d ago

Who the fck cares about how it looks, judging by here, it seems no one has the time to play them anyway.... Developers will learn how to use and optimize X1 over time, just like it took time to figure PS3, or is this another one of those were its only true if it suits Sony fanboys.....????

aftershock720d ago

Ummmmm what?

Forza 5-Super downgrade to get to 1080p
Halo 5-60fps confirmed..1080p is not so you're assuming
Diablo 3-900p

mcstorm720d ago

All I can say to the comments above is wow this has become one of the saddest websites ever bickering over resolution and FPS.

I play games for how they make me feel when playing them always have and always will. Speedball 2 on my Amiga is not 1080p but it is one of the most fun games I have ever played even by today's game standards.

pixelsword720d ago

Yeah, there were rumbles to things like this before this article broke out. I wrote in my blog last week some things Microsoft could do to combat their bad image this gen, but the truth is that Microsoft has to get their head out of the sand and address some of these issues with tangible results using the cloud, not just demonstrations of things that may or may not be a game or in a game. Showing cloud demos are impressive in terms of showboating raw power, but when a real game is running, that raw power converts into practical power, and things that were impressive can quickly become trite/hackneyed when coupled with having to compensate for any hardware shortcomings.

A new gen means that more power opens up new possibilities for both programmers and gamers, so hopefully Microsoft will make the cloud part of their console useable before the end of this year; technically, a third of a gen would have passed-by without any games using the cloud like Microsoft said they would, and that's hard to take for some people looking forward to having a game that used the cloud in the manner Microsoft said they would.

SlyFoxC720d ago

Side Note

Halo: MCC campign is not 1080p only the new redesigned maps are

gigoran720d ago

It's funny when guys like this infected guy start off by saying that 1080p isn't important and the only important thing is gameplay, then they proceed to list a bunch of titles that they think are native 1080p without and downgrading or sacrificing to get it there. They just contradict themselves.

marcofdeath720d ago

Again For every downgrade you name for FMS5 i can list a feature not in DRIVERCLUB and you still can't get to 60fps. Downgrades or Turn 10 did not have time before launch?

when will you listen to me.
ME v,s, NEO GAF/gamepur/gamerbolt
1. PS4 has a better memery systems.
Right: ME. 200GB/s (XB1) V.S. 135GB/s. Here just for you FANBOYS 176GB/S PEAK V.S. 286GB/s PEAK
I still win.
2. You cam't add DDR3 to ESRAM.
Right: ME.
3. XB1 bandwidth is not 1024bits + 256bits V.S. 256bits PS4.
right:ME.
4.ESRAM is not a bottleneck.
Right: ME.
5.Driverclub will not out power FMS5.
RIGHT: ME.
6.Overtime XB1 will get more powerful.
RIGHT: ME.

Now for a look at the future:
From easiest to hardest to prove.
1.In the near future Xbox ones games will overtake PS4 in all aspects.
2.Xbox one has a next generation GPU future AMD roadmap.
3.Xbox ones theoretical teraflops is closer to 2.6. ALL MS said is 768ops/GPUs.
4.Xbox ones ESRAM/GPU can run at a even higher clock speed than the rest of the SOC.

Masterman280720d ago

Forza 5: Ok
- Halo: MCC: ports
- Outlast: Doesn't look like it pushes graphically capabilities
- Diablo 3: Cross gen
- Walfenstien: Cross gen
- Foeza Horizon 2: Cross gen

larrysdirtydrawss719d ago

what do these games have in common?? they all look like the inside of a pigs asshole.. they took a massive graphics hit..... ps4 can have high res along with every other graphics effect cranked up....

kreate719d ago

@the infected

"Not really. As long as the games are great and fun to play it's not a big deal"

that is partially correct.
otherwise why do we even need a xbox one?
lets continue to play on the 360.. cuz u know...
as long as the games are great and fun to play, who cares?

otherZinc719d ago

Drive Club is 1080p...look at how bad it sucks next to Forza Horizon 2.

Did these clowns don't open their eyes to see the games that are 1080p 60fps on the XBOX ONE?

They keep saying that lie, hoping the XBOX ONE doesn't have 1080p games, when they clearly do.

grassyknoll719d ago

A. Halo 5 was announced as having 60fps, there was no mention of resolution.

B. Diablo 3 is 900p

C. Wolfenstein uses a dynamic frame buffer, it drops to 1440 x 1080p regularly.

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Software_Lover720d ago

Not really because if you are a gamer who wants the higher resolution then you probably don't own an XBone to begin with.

I always say a good game is a good game. Titan Fall plays at a much higher resolution on the PC, but people still say it sucks.

snookiegamer720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

DISCLAIMER!

NextLevel is NOT indicative of every PS4 owner.

Please Believe That ;)

NextLevel720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

When listing the native resolutions of Xbox One exclusives is trolling, you know the Xbox One has some resolution issues. Feel free to correct me if you'd like I'll say it again. Forza 5 which was downgraded and Kinect Sports Rivals are the only Xbox One exclusives at 1080p. The rest are cross gen games that are available on the 360. All PS4 exclusives are displayed in 1080p, even The Order 1886.
http://tay.kotaku.com/why-t...

Instead joining the Xbox fan created bandwagon of insultin me and not replying to my comment, prove me wrong.

http://ca.ign.com/wikis/xbo...

Hey, feel free to keep the dream alive!!

jebabcock720d ago

Despite that... He does make a valid point... Can a game be made to run at 1080p 60fps on the x1. Sure it can, but will there be significant sacrifices in other places? So far the answer seems to have always been yes. That being said some of my favorite games this gen are coming from the Wii U...

Are Games on the X1 struggling to hit the mark? Yes they are... It does get old to see these poor retorts.. What is even older is to see people continue to post these Flame bait articles that just frenzy up fanboys, because their misguided passion bleeds over into every other articles so that when I go and read an article that is purely talking about one console or the other, I start seeing this Garbage come up.

Its not tricky and its not a secret... its not even really a debate.. The ps4 has more powerful hardware.. We all know its true... But powerful hardware on its own doesn't make a winner... We all know that as well. This bickering over resolution and framerate only matters to a small fraction of people who will buy games..

Fluchtpunkt720d ago

well im sorry snookiegamer, but ppl like next level are the reason fanboy-wars will never stop and click bait articles will rise and rise...

marlinfan10720d ago

Its not trolling to talk about it. It turns into trolling when you post the same crap over and over in every article. You know what kind of reaction youre gonna get and thats exactly why you do it. You can try and play the victim once people start calling you a troll, but you know damn well what youre doing.

ZodTheRipper720d ago

Still he's more reasonable than many Xbox fans here...

TheRealHeisenberg720d ago

@Zod

Of course a Playstation fanboy would say that NextLevel is more reasonable than many Xbox fans here. I need some of what you are smoking.

doolin_dalton720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

NextLevel is part of a pretty large group of trolls around here.

Notice how he uses spin and misdirection to try to make his points. It's a FACT that there are many 1080p games on Xbox One, but he dismisses many of them by using the term "cross-gen". That way, he can bury his head in the sand and pretend those games don't exist.

It's as if a game doesn't count because of what OTHER consoles it's also on. Sorry, but 1080p is 1080p - you can't invent your own terminology to make some games disappear. Also, when it comes to Forza 5, which is 1080p AND 60FPS, he always makes sure he includes the word "downgraded" because it must pain him to have to admit that the Xbox One has had a AAA exclusive run at 1080p and 60FPS since day one.

Not to mention, Forza 5 holds an 80 rating on Metacritic, so his use of the word "downgrade" is nothing more than his way of attacking a game and a company he clearly hates when the FACTS become an inconvenience for him.

You may say that he doesn't represent all PS4 owners around here, but it's quite disturbing that so many people agree with his lies. He's completely incapable of sticking to the facts - it's in his DNA to troll Xbox relentlessly.

DrJones720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

He uses the word "downgraded" when an xbox game hits 1080p 60fps. You could say that about any game with 1080p 60fps, as compromises on other fields comes along with heightened res and fps. This apply to any game on any platform. It's an angled statement that shows his bias, fanboyism and lack of objectivity.

Prime157720d ago (Edited 720d ago )

@drjones, "You may say that he doesn't represent all PS4 owners around here, but it's quite disturbing that so many people agree with his lies. He's completely incapable of sticking to the facts - it's in his DNA to troll Xbox relentlessly."

The way I view nextlevel is that he mirrors the tactics that truefan, alexkoep, georgenoob, mpog, and a few other xbots... until nextlevel most ps fanboys were just annoying writhe dismissive sayings while most xbots have been pure liars and spinners with no respect for the topic at hand, and ESPECIALLY no respect for other's opinions.

Also, with as much "well said" comments as truefan, georgenoob, alex, nextlevel and the like are getting I'm starting to worry for any ability to discuss. So much misinformation and bending the points... and articles like this...

It's scaring away the people who used to bring ACTUAL VALID points to the comments section... VALID points and respect for opposite opinions...

shorty74a720d ago

I believe NextLevel is a female first off. And is the only Sony fanboy/girl on this website to get as many agrees to disagrees. Most other Sony Fanboys always get 2 to 1 more agrees on Xbox One articles. Maria (I mean) Next Level post articles that shed the Xbox One in a negative way, and then comments on those articles with the same links she uses on all the articles. I do not read the news she post anymore. This is the exact type of news she would post about the Xbone. This time someone beat her to the punch.

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pompous720d ago

Too bad it's not bad news for Xbox One owners. A bit of disappointing news maybe, but as long as the games come and they are enjoyable then who cares if they aren't 1080p as they will still be HD. Look as last gen for example, we had sub-hd, unstable frame rate on ps3/xbox360 and guess what? We all enjoyed the games didn't we.. I don't own an Xbox One yet, but once more games that I'm interested in start popping up I will be all over it and will enjoy them just as much as I enjoy my PS4 games while all offering different experiences.

Jumper09720d ago

Why even buy a new Xbone if it cant reach the newest standard aka 1080p?

n4rc720d ago

Ps4 isn't hitting 1080 in all games.. And the x1 has 1080 games...

Soooo..... ?

marlinfan10720d ago

@jumper

Sorry are you playing resolutions? Did sub 1080p take away from bf4 or watch dogs on ps4? No, it doesnt change anything. The games look great on both consoles. If they really wanted to they could use more resources to hit 1080p but they choose not too because in the end, resolution really isnt that important.

MysticStrummer720d ago

@Jumper - Except it has hit 1080p, so your comment and the headline make no sense.

I'm a confirmed PS guy who will most likely never own an XB, because of MS not the consoles, and even I can acknowledge the flame bait in that headline.

MRMagoo123720d ago

@marlin

Actually watch dogs is sh!t and so is BF4 so maybe thats why.

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lifeisgamesok720d ago

1080peeeee is not the greatest thing in the world

900p looks just as good to the naked eye