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PlayStation Now has many problems ahead

PlayStation Now seemed like a good idea on paper. A streaming service for games by utilizing cloud technology to have a catalog of multiple console generations sounds like where the future of gaming could lie. Of course, since Sony decided to use a rental model in terms pricing and allowed the publishers to set the price, the PlayStation Now’s beta has confused and enraged people faster than a man dressed as Hitler—because the real one is dead—twerking in Israel.

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Eonjay1543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

Its really hard to say because we don't know what the service is yet. But, I can tell you that I am excited about the prospect of playing my digital purchases on the service for free.

Eonjay1543d ago

There is a rumor that you can play any game you have digitally purchased for free according to some people who are in the beta. So for me, I could stream "Tales of" on PS4 for free because I already bought it on PSN.

LOGICWINS1543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

Well, its not "free", according to the rumor at least. You still have to pay the monthly fee in order to get cloud versions of those digitally purchased games. I think what you meant to say is that you can play digitally purchased games on PS Now at no ADDITIONAL cost. But there is still a cost.

It would be great if Sony surprised everyone and gave PS Plus members free cloud versions of purchased PS1, PS2, and PS3 games, but that would effectively kill the PS3 as you could simply pay $50 a year for Plus and get a virtual PS3 on your PS4/Vita.

The PS3 would be the sacrificial lamb, but the Vita would have a lot to gain. Imagine how many people would rebuy PS3 games JUST to play them on the Vita via cloud.

THATS what PS Now should have been...simply making every PSN purchase PS4/Vita compatible. But Sony, being the clueless dumbasses that they are, decided to overcomplicate things by giving us hundreds of games that we didnt ask for and allowing publishers to set ridiculous rental prices for them.

If they continue on this path, then frankly, PS Now deserves to fail.

morganfell1543d ago

Sony has brought the real next gen format to every generation. Each time they were told they were being ridiculous and their idea was too costly for what it offered. Every single time this happened and the hate police were all as convinced as you, some moreso.

PS1 - CDROM
PS2 - DVD
PS3 - Bluray

Now the PS4 brings the next format - complete digital streaming and you say it deserves to fail.

Really? It deserves to fail? (BTW I am being rhetorical and after your remark I could care less for your answer.) At least you are getting that well known Sony hate out in the open.

Like all of the naysayers 3 generations prior your comments will fade, just another detractor that was wrong. Who knows, maybe in a year you can pretend to all of the forgetful that you never made these statements and you can move on to something else about Sony you do not like or will claim is doomed. But some of us will remember.

LOGICWINS1543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

"At least you are getting that well known Sony hate out in the open."

Yeah bro. I despise Sony with a passion lol.

http://n4g.com/news/1532353...

http://n4g.com/news/1543764...

http://n4g.com/news/1519871...

"Now the PS4 brings the next format - complete digital streaming and you say it deserves to fail."

Dude, what are you even talking about? Complete digital streaming didn't originate with PS Now. Netflix has been doing it for years.

I'm not bashing the format, my issue is the MANNER in which Sony is selling this format.

"Every single time this happened and the hate police were all as convinced as you, some moreso.

PS1 - CDROM
PS2 - DVD
PS3 - Bluray"

And of course you neglect to mention PS Vita/PS Move/3D gaming. Ideas that actually did fail...as I and the so called "hate police" predicted.

morganfell1543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

Ha ha, you act like a handful of comments marks you as fair and balanced? No. You are not fooling anyone. It's one of the reasons people railed against you so many times for having the word Logic in your name. Are you conveniently forgetting all of those moments where everyone knew you were stealth trolling? Of course you are. But you are not fooling those that have been here long enough to know you.

FORMATS FOR GAMES. I thought this was a gaming site. I thought were were discussing games. I thought that when one discusses formats on a gaming site when one is discussing games it carries with it the inherent nature of gaming.

And if Netflix is streaming games, which is a great deal more innovative than movies you need to issue a press release.

If you look at the previous formats I discussed were those not also in use prior to making their premiere in the SOny consoles? Yes. Are you capable of noting the obvious? No. Do you need your hand held? Yes. Are you wrong about PSNow? Certainly.

Pogmathoin1543d ago

Funny, you attacking Logic, and CD, DVD and now BluRay are all dead, now you act like Sony invented streaming of games.....

Spotie1543d ago

Bluray is dead? Strange that ALL the current gen consoles have it as their format, and all movies release on bluray.

Must be a zombie.

Death1541d ago

@Morgan,

CD was being used long before the PS1 on game consoles.

PC,PS2 and Xbox all used DVD.

Blu-ray and HD-DVD are both based on the same technology. Sony pushed back the PS3's launch to include Blu-ray which was very costly on the console side of business. It was never needed for the last gen and Sony is moving away to streaming this gen.

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LOGICWINS1543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

I'm very excited for that prospect. Being able to play Sleeping Dogs, TLOU, and GTAV on my Vita later this year would be amazing, but I would only pay a yearly fee of $50(at best) for that luxury.

PS Now should be a two tier service:

The lower tier would simply give you cloud versions of everything you buy, except PS4 games of course.

The higher tier would get you that PLUS a huge growing backlog of cloud titles every month.

If they make that low tier option affordable, it would garner a huge spike in Vita sales.

Joe9131543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

Sony haven't said anything about a Netflix or PS plus like subscription and there is no set price in the beta for 30 or 90 day rentals so everything people are saying is speculation let's see what they announce before we start saying if it is going to work or not I have not seen any of my psn purchases in the PS now beta so that rumor for me is not true

dragon821543d ago

There isn't a monthly subscription price for PS Now at this point in time. As of now there are individual rental prices for each game. This is very similar to how Vudu works. They may add a Netflix like subscription at launch but it is not there yet. I also have not seen any of my PSN purchases show up in the PS Now beta on PS3 or PS4 so I am not sure where that came from.

stripe8141543d ago

pfff on panic already? your only in beta..fortune teller articles

LOGICWINS1543d ago

I know right! These people are so paranoid. Instead of being proactive in order to prevent issues later on, we should all just calm down and be reactive once Sony gives us the final version of PS Now thats plagued with issues. Everyone should just keep their mouths shut so Sony can read our minds in order to make the necessary changes to PS Now.

Look how quickly Microsoft changed their mandatory online policies after the Internet simply remained calm

/s

dragon821543d ago

But you have no idea what they have planned for the final product. What exactly are you bitching about??

PlaystationSquuad1543d ago

Playstation Now is garbage. Not only are the prices of the games ridiculous, but it's a streaming only service. It was a good idea but the execution failed. In all honesty i would have paid top dollar for a PS4 that was completely BC and much stronger. The next gen consoles we have now are trash. Neither are BC and both system's games can easily be confused for PS3/360 games. I'll stick with my PS3 until things get better.

memots1543d ago

i would also have paid premium for a ps4 that does it all. I still have 2 ps3 with B.C and even with that i would want my ps4 to do all this, The ui is fast and fun on ps4 and i would use it with all my B.C stuff

BattleAxe1543d ago

Glad I'm not the only one on here with some common sense. I'll probably get Destiny on PS3, and possibly Far Cry 4, and Mass Effect 4. Nice to see that Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, Little Big Planet 3, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare and Battlefield: Hardline will be on PS3 also.

KwietStorm1543d ago

An opinion or preference does not mean common sense.

BattleAxe1543d ago

Then I guess everyone on the planet must have good common sense then....

KwietStorm1543d ago

Of course it's a streaming service. Why is that bad or why does that even come into play?

BattleAxe1543d ago

I'll be sticking with PS3 this generation. Forget about PS4, PS Vita and PS Now, it's all a waste of time. I've never been so disappointed with Sony.

On the bright side, if I want to play a next-gen game, I've got Steam and Origin. Nintendo might actually win me over if I find myself looking for a new experience. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the WiiU, in the hopes that it actually does pick up on sales. If it does, it will be directly because of Sony's missteps. Not to mention that WiiU is free to play games online.

KwietStorm1543d ago

LOL. Forget about PS4 because of missteps by Sony, but you're sticking with PS3. What.. The PS4 is a direct result of the missteps with the PS3. That is clear as can be.

BattleAxe1543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

Right, well lets look at that:

- PS3 was initially backwards compatible with PS1 and PS2 games. PS4 is not.

- PS3 was free to play online. PS4 is not.

- PS3 could play CDs and MP3s. PS4 does not.

- PS3 had far better games in the first year than the PS4, and they didn't require DLC

PS3 Games of note in the first 13 months (6 exclusives total) Indie Games Not Included:
- Resistance: Fall of Man
- Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
- Heavenly Sword
- Motorstorm
- Ninja Gaiden Sigma
- Warhawk
- Call of Duty 3
- Call of Duty 4
- Ratchet and Clank: Future Tools of Destruction
- Guitar Hero 3: Legends of Rock
- Rock Band
- The Orange Box
- Rainbow Six Vegas
- Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
- The Darkness
- Assassins Creed
- Unreal Tournament 3
- Medal of Honor: Airborne
- Skate
- The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
- Tony Hawk's Project 8
- Tony Hawk's Proving Ground
- Dirt
- John Woo Presents Stranglehold
- Turok

PS4 Games of note in the first 13 months (4 exclusives total) Indie Games Not Included, and Remastered PS3 Games are Not Included:
- Killzone: Shadow Fall (Total rush job)
- Infamous: Second Sun
- Watch_Dogs
- Call of Duty: Ghosts (Worst CoD game to date)
- Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
- Battlefield 4
- Thief (very poorly rated)
- Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeros ($30.00 demo)
- Wolfenstein: The New Order
- Destiny
- Driveclub
- Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag
- Assassin's Creed Unity
- The Crew
- Far Cry 4
- Little Big Planet 3
- Evolve

I have a really hard time believing that most people would think that the PS4 has a better lineup than the the PS3 did. Also, notice how many new IPs there were at the beginning of the PS3 generation.

Bottom line, Sony is performing poorly when compared to the PS3 in terms of what was offered at that time, and the games that were available. Why is the PS4 selling so well right now? Well the only answer is that this is a new generation of consumer, which doesn't know what good value is, and doesn't understand what good quality is all about. It's the subscription/DLC/micro-transac tion/F2P/P2W generation lol

KinjoTakemura1543d ago (Edited 1543d ago )

Battle Axe, the PS4 has been available for 8 months not 13. and you have left out several games that will be released on or before December 15th 2014 which will actually be the 13th month that the Playstation 4 has been on the market.

Battlefield Hardline - 10/21/14
Diablo III - 8/19/14
Dragon Age:Inquisition - 10/10/14
The Evil Within - 10/24/14
Fifa 15 - 9/23/14
Madden 15 - 8/29/14
Final Fantasy 14

Add these 7 games to the PS4 list and that brings that list to 22 vs 25 for the PS3. Apparently, you don't consider indies and F2P "REAL" games. If you did then the PS4s first year would definitely have a longer list than the PS3.

As I pointed out earlier, this 13 month comparison is pointless since the PS4 is only 8 months old and there are several PS4 titles that are planned for a 2014 release, but they don't have a firm date set.

BattleAxe1542d ago (Edited 1542d ago )

^^^

I forgot BF: Hardline, Dragon Age and Final Fantacy 14, but I didn't include Madden 07, Madden 08 and Tiger Woods 07, Tiger Woods 08 for the PS3. Diablo 3 is a bit of a cop-out since it has been out on PC for 2 or 3 years already. There's nobody who purchased a PS3 in 2006/2007, who when they compare the launch titles of the PS3 to launch titles of the PS4, would say that the PS4 has way better launch titles.

I also didn't include some indie games that the PS3 had during it's first year....that's right, indie games aren't new to this generation, they've just become a crutch for Sony this generation so that Sony can get away with investing less money in their first party studios. I guaranty that Sony will not produce the amount of games that they did for the PS3. If you think they will, then be my guest, but when the dust settles I think I will be proven right.

My comment was a response to the post that replied to my original comment. The poster said that the PS4 is what it is because of missteps with the PS3. I'm simply saying that there were no missteps as far as the technology, games and payment schemes.

Where Sony went wrong was on their own end financially, because the PS3 was costing them too much. Also, the hardware was a bit more difficult to make games on when compared to the Xbox 360. The only thing that has changed for this generation is that the PS4 costs less to make, and they are charging a fee for people to play online. Regardless of whether or not you think PS+ is a good deal or not, you're still spending $50.00 per year that you didn't need to spend last generation. The fact that $50.00 doesn't seem like a lot of money is besides the point. The issue is that it's becoming a trend, and soon all platform holders will be doing it because people are dumb enough to buy into it.

It's funny, last generation most people said that the fact that you didn't need a subscription to play online was one of the reasons that they bought a PS3 over the Xbox 360, and then they would go on to talk about how stupid Xbox 360 owners were for paying for LIVE. But, now that Sony is doing it, its a good thing according to many PS4 owners. It doesn't get more stupid than that.

KwietStorm1543d ago

Yes, PS3 was initially backwards compatible, and it's beating a dead horse at this point still talking about it. The PS3 itself had it removed long PS4 was available, for what should be obvious reasons at this point. It would be financially irresponsible for Sony to, at least debut, PS4 with a PS3 mobo built in. One person, a couple people, a hundred people saying they would pay top dollar for a PS4 with "everything" does not justify Sony mass producing said product.

Yes, PS3 was free to play online, and I was unsure how I felt about the announcement that PS4 would require PS+, but since I have been subscribed since the service launched, I can't complain, at all. You're really not even paying for online connectivity with everything else you get, across all PlayStation platforms mind you. And again, for financial reasons, in part due to the PS3 (again), we have to pay now. Oh well. CDs.. I'm sure the majority of gamers don't miss this. But it's another thing to pad lists on the Internet. It's really not important.

Oh look. Indie games don't count for someone else. Well whatever. PS3 sure as hell didn't launch with a great lineup, but it gained over time. Something the PS4 will do as well. Are you neglecting the infinite number of games that got delayed too? Or are those somehow a misstep by Sony as well? How is Sony even responsible for what other developers are producing? It's funny that you have little notes for select games this generation, but the list for PS3 is untouched, even the bad games. Shadow Fall was apparently a rush job, But you say nothing about The Orange Box or Stranglehold.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue what games are better than what. That's opinion. I just don't know what's so disappointing to you that you're proactively throwing everything out the window so quickly, to the point that you want a Wii U. You say you've got Steam and Origin, but you choose to buy those games you mentioned on PS3 instead of PC, a completely outdated platform that won't run them nearly as well. And what are you talking about games that require DLC? What's your real beef?

WeAreLegion1543d ago

If they can get my digital PS3 purchases onto my PS4 through PlayStation Now, I will be so freaking happy. I have thousands of dollars invested in PS3 digital stuff.

Also, if I could get my PS Plus games on there, that would be great. :)

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