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Submitted by NextLevel 19d ago | article

From King’s Field to Bloodborne: the lineage of Dark Souls

Harsh difficulty curves, purposely ambiguous world states and methodical pacing are just a few hallmarks From Software has etched into the fabric of its Souls series. Under the stewardship of series veteran Hidetaka Miyazaki, PS4 exclusive Bloodborne is set to carry the series legacy into 2015. Indeed it’s an exciting time to be a Souls fan. (Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2, Demon's Souls, King's Field: The Ancient City, PC, PS2, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360)

Hellsvacancy  +   19d ago
Soooooooooooooooooo looking forward to Bloodborne, I can't express that enough with a single sentence

I love rpgs, i've held off buying a PS4 because of the lack of em, Witcher 3 and Bloodborne will keep me happy for months and months
colonel179  +   19d ago
I really like that the game is supposed to be faster and more action-y. It think this will be the best of these games.
KingKelloggTheWH  +   18d ago
Destiny and BloodBorne are my next two games...I wont need any other games for a long time
XtraTrstrL  +   19d ago
LoL, I still remember my friends making fun of me years ago for buying King's Field on PSX. I always bought random games that I just thought had cool box art sometimes. Back in the days when there were so many games out that half couldn't be covered in the magazines and the internet wasn't popping enough yet to cover everything. The PSX was similar to the NES days, going to the software store or rental spot. There were always tons of games you never saw before.
SpinalRemains138  +   19d ago
Right on. You just brought back a lot of memories for me.

That was actually a cool thing. Not knowing entirely what you were buying, except the developer who made it. Those awesome surprises and moments of fun were priceless.

There were benefits of living in the pre information age. Everything was a little more human.
SuperBlunt  +   19d ago
This is gonna be the big one in 2015. And if it surpasses demons souls and dark souls.... oh man
lonelyplayer  +   19d ago
Best game of e3
Dspdspes  +   19d ago
Ahhhh, King's Field 1, 2 and 3...... So many hours spent..... Loved them!!
pennywhyz  +   19d ago
I need Kings Field 4.
KingKelloggTheWH  +   18d ago
It would be awesome if they were to have a resurgence.
thricetold  +   18d ago
So pumped for this game! I'm going to lose HUNDREDS of hours in this and can not wait! Great shout out to the kings series, wish more of the fanbase knew about it.

Just had a discussion with a tryhard here (kingkelloge or something)who clearly had no idea how the souls series was DIRECTLY connected to the kings series, was only concerned that DARK was getting credited for what HE thought DEMONS started. Fanboys at their worst.
So petty of me, I know lol.

Great article.
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KingKelloggTheWH  +   18d ago
Calling me a try hard is pretty disrespectful, also they are not "directly" tied together, they only are in the same way that each Final Fantasy is.

Also, the souls series is excruciatingly different from the Kings series, not only in terms of world but in gameplay. Just look here https://www.youtube.com/wat... . That is Kings Field, great games but like I said before they are extremely different. Also the Kings series doesn't have the same MP mechanics as Demons and Dark.

Not to mention BloodBorne is being developed by From Software and Sony, just like Demons souls. Also the creator of the series keeps comparing the game to guess what!? Demons Souls.

Also many Souls fans consider Demons Souls superior, which if you followed the Souls fan forums you would already know this.

Edit: also the article doesn't even note the MASSIVE influence the manga/anime Berserk had on the games art and world.
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thricetold  +   18d ago
I don't have to youtube it, I still own all 3. My entire point was that the premise for the souls series started long before demons. The dev even states as much several times, or did you just ignore that as well?

What does sony have to do with this? We are talking about the souls lineage. I dont care what a bunch of new fans think which is better, its all subjective. Some of the complaints with ds2 are present in the previous 2 as well. Bad hit boxes, reused bosses, hits going thru walls, etc.

Alot of those same fans only say that because demons is exlcusive and dark is multi, silly as that sounds. In any regard We are talking about where it started.

Fact is it goes kings field- dark tower-demons souls-dark souls-bloodborne. The gameplay has been tweaked from series to series but the atmosphere and world has largely gone unchanged.

I called you a tryhard because you blatantly accused me of knowing nothing about the series and how it came to be. I have THOUSANDS of playtime under my belt and have been a fan LONG before demons came along with the influx of bandwagoners new fans who have a a personal agenda of their own.
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KingKelloggTheWH  +   18d ago
@thricetold

Again you don't even try to read what I wrote.

Yes there are similarities but the games from Kings to Demons are immensely different. Sure they have some slight similarities but the differences are far greater then the similarities.

By your logic we should also credit armored core for the lineage to Demons/Dark.

Also falling back on the " Alot of those same fans only say that because demons is exclusive and dark is multi" is childish and a ridiculous assumption, it just proves you cant back what you say. But the people who say Demons is better can back it.
thricetold  +   17d ago
It's an OPINION king. Better is subjective. You're claiming one is better than the other doesn't make it fact. No, not everyone agrees with you. Im on gamefaqs, giantbomb and a bunch of other forums and it will always be up for debate because it's all opinion.

There is nothing to back up. I'm perfectly aware my observations are assumptions, doesn't make them any less real. If you are claiming that NOT ONE demons fan is childish enough to only like it because its exclusive to their favorite piece of plastic I got news for you.

I suppose there isn't a segment of souls fans who only claim to like it because they think it elevates their "hardcore" status?

Armored core? Really? That's exactly what im talking about. What does mechs and bullets have to do with medievil dark fantasies? Simply because its the same devs? A game that has ZERO similarites? You are completely dimissing what the devs themselves stated several times. Im not pulling this sentiment out of my anus you know.

Look, it's cool you don't give a crap about the series or the devs homage to their earlier work, afterall, its just a bullet point to brag about for a lot of you.
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KingKelloggTheWH  +   17d ago
@thricetold

It's an OPINION king. Better is subjective. You're claiming one is better than the other doesn't make it fact. No, not everyone agrees with you. Im on gamefaqs, giantbomb and a bunch of other forums and it will always be up for debate because it's all opinion.

"There is nothing to back up. " If you can't back up your opinion then Do NOT voice it.

"Armored core? Really? That's exactly what im talking about. What does mechs and bullets have to do with medievil dark fantasies? Simply because its the same devs?" Go play armored core and look up its development team and lead creator.

"Look, it's cool you don't give a crap about the series or the devs homage to their earlier work, afterall, its just a bullet point to brag about for a lot of you."

Seriously, you just love making brash and disrespectful assumptions. If you cant have a civil discussion then just leave me alone, just because I give credit to places you don't doesnt mean I am wrong, it just means you think there are similarities that I dont see, and I have played Kings Field, so stop acting like I havent, I also went and platinumed Dark Souls so, not because it is a bragging point but because I actually Love this series.

As I said before if you want to have a civil discussion, I am down for it. But if you keep insulting me I will just block you.

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