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Ultra HD Will Bring The “Revolution” We’ve All Been Waiting For

Thomas Ellis of Gamer Attitude feels we won't have the same massive graphical leap as last time until Ultra HD becomes the new standard.

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F4sterTh4nFTL753d ago

Got a 4K TV for my PC and the image quality difference between 1080p and 4K is just huge, everything just looks so perfect and smooth and the high resolution textures in games just look incredibly detailed.

Einhert753d ago

Nothing lucky about it, he worked hard for his money.

XiYakushijuAkeginuXi753d ago

Einhert, sorry but that was just stupid

Ares84HU753d ago

Einhert is right. No lucky needed. Just work hard and you will be able to afford things others who don't, can't. Simple as that.

Also, I would buy a 4KTV myself if there was enough content for it but to date there are only a handful movies that support it. Other than that, maybe if you buy a nuclear reactor of a pc, you might be able to play some games in 4K but I'm a console gamer myself and the PS4 does not play any game in 4K so I just stick with my LX900 bravia for now. Maybe next summer, we'll see.

XiYakushijuAkeginuXi753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

@Ares well unlike you, many people know that work hard does not apply to many people. Some people do not have the opportunities. Go to a drug/poverty ridden neighborhood and see if "work hard" will get you your 4KTV.

Ares84HU753d ago

I'm sorry but it means nothing where you come from. It's just an excuse to be lazy. Everyone has opportunities. Not equal opportunities but regardless of that anyone can climb out of a hole and lead a decent life. I come from nothing, my parents dragged me to the USA, I didn't speak a word of English. I worked hard for everything I have and now I have my own business at the age of 29. If I can do it, anyone can do it. So don't come to me with the excuse that "ohh, I'm from here or there and that's why." No! You are just a lazy ass, that is all.

XiYakushijuAkeginuXi753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

@Ares

Well if not everyone has an equal opportunity, it is then probably true that many people might not have opportunity. An easy example is if I was born a without any money for food. Now how are you going to tell me that I am lazy because I do not have money for food.

Your argument isn't quite good. Just because you got out of a shithole (excuse my language) does not mean that if a person one day wakes up and stop being lazy for the rest of their life they will somehow start getting money out of thin air.

Throw me on a deserted island, with no food, no water and blame me for being lazy because I was not able to survive... use your brain a little and think about other circumstances not just yours

DARK WITNESS753d ago

@ XiYakushijuAkeginuXi

The following statement comes to mind...

"If you don't have the mental capacity to be that obsessed about what you're trying to get...
... Then motherf"^^ker you won't never have it."

:)

UltraNova752d ago

Its funny but by the time I will find my self in need to replace my 62inc oled 3d FullHD monster, 8K will be the new marketing push!

So I'll wait for the 8K revolution in 5 years or so...

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tontontam0753d ago

I wish I'm as rich as you.

Ares84HU753d ago

Dude, you can get a 4KTV for $2500 now. It's not that expensive at all.

DeadlyOreo753d ago

Congratulations, you win at life.

Have this medal.

2pacalypsenow753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

I agree UHD ( it's not really 4k) is amazing but just too damn expensive I'm loving my samsung UHD monitor but had to shell out for a 2nd 780 to enjoy it

Ares84HU753d ago

How is 4K expensive? You can get a 56" 4K for $2500. Come on guys, it's really not that bad. If you want the 84" curved than yeah, that's expensive. But 4K is affordable.

traumadisaster753d ago

Wrong. I just bought my second 4k tv which does 4096x2160. The first one I bought was 3840x2160.

Bob Dole753d ago

For a lot of people $2500 is nowhere near affordable.

2pacalypsenow753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

What tv does 4096x2160? with what aspect ratio? And 2500$ isn't cheap to game in 4k for me costed me $1700 just for the monitor and video cards that isn't cheap

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Magicite753d ago

I think SD and HD had the largest difference.
I were in Sony center where they demoed latest Full HD and Ultra HD TVs and the difference was far from huge.

lfc_4eva753d ago

Dude I think you need to check again.
I've got a recent full hd 55inch LG, top spec. I've seen the same tv next to a similar sized Samsung UHD and curved, my tv looks rubbish in comparison.

dcj0524753d ago

Bro.1080p is the new 480p, if you've seen good 4K it's weird to go back.

Volkama753d ago

I have a 4k TV and it looks great for sure, but I haven't really found a game that I felt takes advantage of it in terms of textures and detail. Games in native 4k look like games upscaled to 4k, which is to say they are beautiful but I think there is more potential that I am not yet seeing.

So... What do you recommend?

traumadisaster753d ago

I must say I have found the exact opposite. ALL games show vast improvement, like 720 to 1080 difference. And once you play at 4k as soon as you see regular hd it hurts your eyes.

lfc_4eva753d ago

Majority of games will look just like upscaled to 4k. The texture assets of the game are in play here. If developers have not provided textures that are any higher than 1080p, then after upscaling the quality will not be as impressive as you'd expect.

Volkama753d ago

Yes lfc, that's what I am getting at. Any good examples of games that do have the textures and assets to take it beyond 1080p?

I keep meaning to get some modded textures for Skyrim or something, but if there are games that offer particularly good 4k support I'd like to check them out...

traumadisaster753d ago

I've been gaming at 4k for over a year now and once you see what it does to old games much less newer games you will be shocked.

medman753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

I don't think 4k will ever have widespread adoption in the TV market, the distance you have to sit from the screen to see any discernible difference doesn't really make sense for TV watching. PC monitors or projectors are a different story, however. But here's my problem with this whole 4k thing...they're already working on 8k. And 8k monitors could be available by the time there is actually a decent amount of 4k content available for the 4k market. It's the tail wagging the dog. At some point people are going to stop falling for clever marketing and realize unless you are literally sitting within two feet of your screen/monitor, or have a 150 inch projection screen, your eyes can't see the difference between 1080 and 4k at the distances most people watch television.

Volkama753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

A British tech magazine did a study at a TV exhibition. They took 2 55inch Samsung TVs, a 4k model and the top end 1080p model. They professionally calibrated them so that there were no discernable differences in contrast or colour, only resolution. They each played the same demo reel material.

They asked people to identify the 4k TV from 9foot away. 97% got it right.

Granted it was only a sample of 49 people, but they were random show goers and 48 could tell the difference.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/n...

Also, my wife can tell the difference. She has terrible eyesight. Therefore the difference is huge.

TardcoreGamer753d ago

Hey FTL. What are the specs of your rig? It seems to me 4k requires an insane amount of processing overhead to run any AAA game. Just wondering what kind of performance you are getting.

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bunt-custardly753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

I'm no expert but from what I can gather, to push the resolution in games on PC beyond 1080p and keeping decent frames per second requires quite a powerful GPU and in some cases would require multiple GPUs to keep performance at acceptable levels.

Sadly, I don't think Xbox One or PS4 will be able to accomplish this unless the games are tailored specifically to run at this resolution which I suspect would mean compromises being made with the details. I am going to go out on a limb and guess that it will be the next Xbox and Playstation consoles that will include output options in UHD as standard.

ABizzel1753d ago

The PS4 and XBO aren't doing 4k unless it's of PS2/XB or a PSN/XBLA quality. As far as high quality retail exclusives go, it's not going to happen, especially when the XBO is struggling with 1080p, and not every PS4 game is 1080p @ 60fps.

The jump to 4k is a pretty big power hog, and $500+ GPU's that hit 1080p @ 60+fps and 1440p @ 60fps on pretty much every game, drop down to 30fps or worse on higher end games like Crysis 3 and Metro at 4k resolutions.

4k won't be the complete standard until 2018 (2020 for consoles) where entry level GPUs can easily play games at 4k resolution for example the UHD 2750 (4k @ 30fps / 2k @ 60fps).

Why I agree that it will be the revolution gaming has been waiting for is not for the simply fact that a new standard will be set (for consoles at least) is because it will be the era where technology is no longer the limiting factor of games and every game should look good graphically making the focus of games change from how big and pretty I can make this look, into how good and entertaining I can make this game be.

That type of change will force and put creativity into the forefront of gaming from EVERY studio, because when ever game looks good, graphics won't really matter as much outside of a unique art-style.

Jaqen_Hghar753d ago

This is what a man has thought all along, that the new consoles in 2020 or so will have 4k and that will be their big advertisement much like HD gaming was last gen. Of course a man has barely given that any thought enjoying his WiiU and PS4 all the time :)

Rob Hornecker753d ago

I didn't see anyone jump on the 3d band wagon when they came out.

A new video game monitor ( I do not watch TV on it and as such I don't call it a TV ) is in the future. I'm trying to hold out for the UHD format to become more popular with the now current NEXT gen console makers.

As it stands now I will be getting as much use out of my now 8 year old 57in DLP which has been rock solid after 1 bulb replacement after 6 years.

TheDevKit753d ago (Edited 753d ago )

Not if you're playing at 30 FPS.

lfc_4eva753d ago

Current consoles will NOT achieve UHD. Period.
To get those types of resolutions, you'd have flat textures, the likes of which I've not seen since 3dfx days!

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iamnsuperman753d ago

One thing that is going to hold Ultra HD back is TV not jumping onto it as streaming that content would be difficult. The consoles are never going to be able to do this Ultra definition anyway but that isn't going to matter if Ultra HD TV sets stay at the high price. They are going to stay at the high price for a lot longer if TV doesn't jump onto the bandwagon. 1080p is cheap and enough to watch TV so the majority of consumer just won't jump across (which then means the manufacturers have to keep Ultra HD sets at high prices because they won't be moving lots).

TheWackyMan753d ago

It wouldn't be that hard to stream content over 4k, if (U.S.&CAN) ISPs weren't selling third world level speed internet for exorbitant prices. Internet ISPs make me so upset. ;_;

kevinsheeks753d ago

Yep highest prices yet subpar service

sprinterboy753d ago

@iamnsuperman

Sony and Samsung 4k are both selling at £1,700 here in the UK, trust me, they will be below the £1,000 mark by Xmas 2015 early 2016. I do believe though the 4k global attach rate when ps5 comes out will probably be around 30%, we're probably looking at 10 yrs from now before 4k is standard in most homes.

Drithe753d ago

NO. It will not give us anything but remakes of The Last of Us. ONLY FOR THE PS5!