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Submitted by toocoolgames_14 56d ago | opinion piece

Sony Will Release the PS4 Slim the Instant They Fall Behind Microsoft

Sony will save a new PS4 model for when they really need it. Like, for example, when the Xbox One reclaims the North American territory. (PS4)

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lelo  +   56d ago | Well said
"Sony Will Release the PS4 Slim the Instant They Fall Behind Microsoft"

In American sales, if the X1 adds a few big exclusives to their line-up (only Halo, Forza and Gears is not enough), decreases it's price and becomes cheaper then the PS4, maybe the X1 has a shot...

Now in world sales, I can't see the PS4 falling behind the X1... unless something completely unexpected happens.
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NextLevel  +   56d ago | Well said
The Xbox One might outsell the PS4 during certain months here and there when a big game releases. There is nothing to support the argument that Microsoft is even close to doing so consistently. The Xbox One hasn't even crossed 5 million something the PS4 did a long time ago.

Phil Harrison
"Asked about bridging the gap between the two console's sales figures (Sony report 9 million units sold, Harrison says Xbox One's figure is "north of five million") he says: "Some analysts will suggest that we are less than 5% into this generation, so there is plenty of market opportunity ahead of us."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mi...

The crazy thing is, the PS4 is doing this with a relatively weak exclusive line up so far. When the big games start dropping in 2015 this could get out of hand.

Sony will release the slim when they're ready, there is no need in waiting for Microsoft.
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Nitrowolf2  +   56d ago
"Sony will release the slim when they're ready, there is no need in waiting for Microsoft."

Agreed, The Slim will come when it comes. It's not about being a last resort to try to regain the market from the competition, it's about releasing an old product again at a cheaper production value for them, thus more profit per console sold.
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The_Hero  +   56d ago
The point of releasing the slim is to be cost effective while maintaining profibility.
mikeslemonade  +   56d ago
X1 will never outsell the PS4 for one month in the U.S. because the $399 sku couldn't do it.
weekev15  +   56d ago
Agreed this isnt some competition to the execs, its about making profit. The only reason they give 2 craps about MS is that they are taking some of their market. If Sony sells 100 million this gen and MS sells 101 million, Sony wont care because they will still have made a profit, which for them is a massive deal right now.
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bigbic  +   56d ago
I would be speechless if Microsoft outsold Sony in total sales this gen in any country, let alone worldwide. It is Sony's gen to lose.
Provolone24  +   56d ago
I've been thinking the same thing. 2014 hasn't been great for any platform, but it's been especially lacking in the exclusives department for Sony considering how high their expectations are in terms of delivering arguably the best exclusive games.

So, when 2015 kicks off with The Order, then Bloodborne, No Man's Sky, Uncharted 4, not to mention all the announced new IPs that we know Sony has...you're right; it could get out of hand.

Quantum Break looks great and we already know Halo and Gears are coming in 2015 (yeah, total shocker there), but Microsoft better have some tricks up their sleeve.
UltraNova  +   56d ago
The Slim is meant to be a mid cycle refresher to an aging product which help re-invigorate customer perception of the product just like car face-lifts.

This should be done when you reach a sales plateau or steady decline in sales for any reason not just as a reaction to what the competition is doing.
Chris_GTR1  +   56d ago
Why would ps4 slim matter? Ps4 is already significantly slimmer when compared to x1. Has anyone put them side by side? At this point ps4 is even slimmer than the furute x1 slim.
Eddie20101  +   56d ago
Then we probably won't see a Slim PS4, at least not because it is behind in sales.
Darkstares  +   55d ago
The Slim will come when the parts become more efficient so they can make a smaller design, and to add a whole new look to renew interest if sales start to fall. Sony needs to be profitable so if they can make the hardware for cheaper with a new slim model they will.
ghostface9  +   55d ago
@mikeislemonade please tell me thats a joke first of the x1 will probably outsell the ps4 in the US this month first with the new sku but saying it will never pass the ps4 is idiotic.
Kingscorpion81  +   55d ago
It will get out of hand... I can already see it happening lol
Kingscorpion81  +   55d ago
It will get out of hand... I can already see it happening lol.
JBSleek  +   56d ago
Why does the Xbox One have to lower its price from $399? That's fine and competitive.
rdgneoz3  +   56d ago
If the kinect standalone costs more than $100, it'll show that MS could have lowered the Kinectless even more for consumers. Even before kinectless, they were selling titanfall bundles for $450 ($560 value) and they couldn't stay competitive.
Spotie  +   55d ago
In another week or so, we'll see whether or not that price makes the XB1 competitive. Right now, it doesn't appear to have done much (basing this off the dubious VGChartz until we get some NPD figures).

Being at the same price doesn't make it competitive.
dmitrijs88  +   56d ago | Intelligent
Does this mean there will never be a PS4 slim?
ltachiUchiha  +   56d ago
They will definitely have one no matter what because a slim will definitely help Sony save money.
GT67  +   56d ago
their no need to wait on MS pull miracle from behind . when Sony ready that sexy slim hot mama will show those legs.
jessupj  +   56d ago
"Sony Will Release the PS4 Slim the Instant They Fall Behind Microsoft"

Did sony just confirm they'll will be no slim model released ever?
Gamer1982  +   56d ago
They wont ever fall behind the Xbone in total sales.. Maybe the odd month in the US Xbone will outsell it but in total PS4 will dominate this generation now.. The PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide leading to it overtaking it in the end and the ps4 is a lot stronger console than the ps3 and the xbone has a lot less strength than the 360.
fenome  +   55d ago
Don't forget the 360 had a year headstart and the PS3 was more expensive, but the PS3 still passed it. How you support your console, consumers, and developers is what's going to carry you the distance. This time around they both started the race at the same time, but the PS4 is stronger and cheaper, and Microsoft tripped on the first hurtle. I honestly believe they're going to dominate pretty much this whole generation.
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Evilsnuggle  +   55d ago
That is quite sad i was looking forward to a new PS4 slim . Because xbone will never out sale the PS4 in europe . xbone will have a hard time out selling PS4 in the usa . Maybe when a halo game drops but SONY will beat m$ again in sales like every gen so far . xbone will lose more market shares that 360 gained . SONY will take back the market shares that was lose by PS3 . PS4 = PS2 this gen
KINGOFTHEJUICE-  +   55d ago
agreed PlayStation will lead this entire generation
showtimefolks  +   55d ago
Sony will release a ps4 slim when they can ut costs and make a bigger profit. Jack tretton said that fans think we can cut the prices or release newer models in an instant, but these things are well planned for future

Now xbox one will not pass ps4 at anytime in sales(overall meaning ps4 is at 12 million and xbox one is at 12.1 million, there maybe months where it may sell better than ps4 but right now the gap is over 4 million)

ps4 is reported to be at 9 million
xbox one at 5

IMO if any shot of making it close in USA market than its this fall, i really don't see xbox one doing better than ps4 in 2015. This fall xbox one can make a comeback or some sort but that may easier said than done

I think sony will get a huge sales bonus with Destiny bundle and white PS4's(i know many friends who are waiting for white ps4)

than there is Europe where MS has no chance, ps4 is the king of that market like ps3 and before ps1-ps2 were. Europe has grown to a point where MS really needs to shift a lot of their focus into that region

Bottom line is this:

the way things are right now with 4 plus million in sales gap, i see this generation being a thing where xbox one will be playing catch up. Now that doesn't mean it won't be successful(hear that xbox fans, i am not bashing xbox one, its an awesome console)
DanielGearSolid  +   56d ago | Funny
So never?
GamersHeaven  +   56d ago
Yes :)
PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt  +   56d ago
lol i was gonna post that
mpnothanks  +   56d ago
My exact words.
Ding Ding Ding!!
joab777  +   56d ago
My first thought was...how sad that we will never hav a slim model.
truefan1  +   56d ago
Looks like the Slim will be here at the start of the new year. Sony has nothing that can compete with Halo. Hell Gears is more popular than the uncharted franchise. Even price with Halo MCC Bundle Holiday 2014 vs ? for ps4. XB1 won NPD one month during the 2013 holiday at $100 more.

Sony better hope people don't learn they can play Destiny on XB1 along with Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, and Forza Horizon 2. My darn nephew didn't even know Destiny was multiplat, once he learned that it was a no brainer.
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Majin-vegeta  +   56d ago
Yea it one the month where they were really scarce to find.But seeing as they're now easier to find in some places i doubt it lol.
Truefan works for Microsoft
amiga-man  +   56d ago
You have to feel sorry for his darn nephew http://www.google.co.uk/img...
TheWatercooler  +   56d ago
"My Darn Nephew"... Wait... You have a nephew?? I thought you were like 12..

Surely your not a full grown man are you?
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johndoe11211  +   56d ago
What month was that? Was that the month they were really low on stock and xboxes were lining store shelves?
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ramiuk1  +   56d ago
aye prob the month MS shareholders told MS to stop making consoels as there was too many in stock around world
morganfell  +   56d ago | Well said
Is this your new fall back position truefan? Every few weeks you come up with another. Retreat, dig in, "Oh crap! Fall back again!"
GW212  +   55d ago
Um, yup. Exactly. It used to annoy me because I would be thinking "how can someone be so obtuse and stubborn?"

Now I just kind of laugh. Personally, I own both consoles so I don't really care about the whole console war thing. That said, it's funny to watch the XB1 fanboys continuously back track and pivot and back track and lie. Sony has more than its share of idiot fanboys, but I just find the MS fanboy back tracking to be akin to watching a train wreck. You can't help but watch.
AceBlazer13  +   56d ago
How long have you been saying the xb1 is gonna win at something true fan? It's like every week you come up with a new excuse, each more half passed than the last. I'm surprised you don't act like a Jehovah's witness to your nephew, preaching the awesomeness of XB1.
RichardDawkins  +   56d ago
Microsoft will recoup a 4 million gap in 6 months?? Ok TrueTroll1
gigoran  +   56d ago
Right, because Sony with their more popular and powerful console are worried about Microsoft rereleasing a bunch of halo games, some from 2 generations ago, that can't even be played in full hd. Yeah... They are shaking in their boots.

Hahaha nice joke
MysticStrummer  +   56d ago
"Looks like the Slim will be here at the start of the new year."

You're insane.

At least that's settled anyway.
bigjohn221  +   56d ago
Halo are you fing kidding me? Since bungie left halo has gone into the shyt hole,343 studios destroyed halo 4 and any hope halo can be revived by another company.

Gears without cliffy b is epic failure.
PS4isKing_82  +   56d ago
Microsoft only barely won December because that was the month more units were being shipped for the European launch.

As for gears of war? That game is likely 3 years away. By then the xbone will likely be 10 to 15 mil units behind ps4. If not more.
Provolone24  +   56d ago
Oh man. You're right; Sony is screwed. Microsoft's first-party studios are churning out more Halo, Fable, and Forza games. That's something new.

I mean seriously: Forza 5 launched with X1 back in November and now Forza Horizon 2 drops in September? That's a mere TEN months between Forza titles. Please someone tell me why in the world we need two Forza games ten months apart. Gimme a break.

And then you have Microsoft's true cash cow that ran out of milk in 2007: Halo. So, we know of The Master Chief Collection and Halo 5, but apparently that isn't enough because a recent article said they're working on ANOTHER Halo. We're probably looking at three Halo games within the next year to two years. Give it up already.

Lastly, it's pretty ironic that Sunset Overdrive will arguably be the best X1 game of 2014 and it was made by a studio who is basically a Playstation developer. Oh well, Truefan, at least you'll finally get to experience what a good game is like.
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GrandpaSnake  +   56d ago
i never had a 360, but with destiny i can play a game made from bungie. xbox fans can play sunset overdrive.
Aceman18  +   56d ago
there are truly no words that can describe you truefan really no words lol. you claim Gears is more popular than Uncharted

Gears 1 6.04 mil
Gears 2 6.68
Gears 3 6.03
Gears 4 1.43

UC1 4.74
UC2 6.39
UC3 6.36

you make it seem like the difference between the two is huge, but it's not if UC1 had multiplayer it would have the same numbers as the other two in the series.

i love IG, but even i know Sunset Overdrive which looks like complete insane fun is not going to light the charts ablazed.

i plan to get an X1 later this year but halo mmc does not have me excited, Sunset Overdrive does, QB does but that's not out until sometime next year. i might pick up FH2 as that looks good. stop being a shill and an crazy fanboy lol.
chrisarsenalsavart  +   55d ago
Dud,it would be better to have that conversation with a chimp than with truefan1.
At least the chimp would understand
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showtimefolks  +   55d ago
Bubs up man, i see Uncharted 4 getting more sales than gears of war. People are burned out with Gears series, but not by UC

if ms can pick one game between gears and UC4, they will surly take UC4. Gears trilogy was awesome but unless they do something just out of the ordinary than gears really doesn't have a chances even to match gears 2 or gear 3 sales
modesign  +   55d ago
the chimp would have more bubbles
Iamnemesis4880  +   55d ago
Just to say there was no gears 4 it was a spin off called judgement.
madjedi  +   56d ago
I seriously think this is a sony guy(truefan), just intentionally acting this foolish, just to make other xbox fans look stupid. That can't be genuine.
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amiga-man  +   56d ago
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sic_chops  +   56d ago
Sony still beat MS last gen and how many halo games came out....Trufan?
morganfell  +   56d ago
Just look at Amazon. In May the PS4 averaged spot 6 and the Xbox1 averaged spot 39. In June the PS4 was at 8 and the Xbox1 at 50. So far this month, the PS4 average is 9 and the Xbox1 is 53. See the trend truefan?
DigitalRaptor  +   56d ago
- Titanfall
- DirectX 12

Why do you do this to yourself, Truetroll?
king_ps4  +   56d ago
It's over for xbox, they will never catch ps4. Prepare for your dreams to be smashed.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   55d ago
Your comment, and the responses you get = Comedic Gold.
chrisarsenalsavart  +   55d ago
Xbox1 only won that month because Sony was stretching their stock worldwide compares to Microsoft so if u were not so fanblinded(see I have just created a new word for you)you would understand that if Sony had allocated the same amount of consoles in N.A. Than they did worldwide at that time, ps4 would have killed xb1 N.A sales without a shadow of a doubt.
U fool!
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showtimefolks  +   55d ago
truefan1

Titanfall bundle was suppose top kill ps4
now a Halo hd collection okay
than gears of war(how well did judgement sell)
Halo 5(after halo 4 many people have doubts)

the way i see it sony will make a bigger impact with destiny bundle and exclusive dlc

also what's stopping them from bundling LBP3 or drive club?

Aceman18(these sales number at bottom take from this user, thanks)

Gears 1 6.04 mil
Gears 2 6.68
Gears 3 6.03
Gears 4 1.43

UC1 4.74
UC2 6.39
UC3 6.36
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kingdom18  +   56d ago
I see a price cut in the future if that happens. (Don't know how it can get much slimmer. )
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johndoe11211  +   56d ago
Let me fix that sub heading for you:

"Sony will save a new PS4 model for when they really need it. Like, for example, IF EVER the Xbox One reclaims the North American territory".

you're welcome :)
chrisarsenalsavart  +   55d ago
They re both great consoles, and I own both of them but what really grind my gear is people like truefan1(aka major Nelson crazy twin brother)and georgeboob(aka Don mattrick Bff)talking deluded nonsensical s@#?t every single time.
whybag  +   55d ago
Even Major Nelson stopped trying to spin sales after March. But there sits truefan, still keeping the faith.
Eonjay  +   56d ago
Except, that is not how it works. They release slim model when they figure out how to move their process to a smaller size which reduces heat and needs less spaces or smaller fans for ventilation. This reduces cost. That is when you will see a Slim PS4, when they figure out how to make a cheaper cooler solution. Has nothing to do with competition.
ThatOneRiggaNob  +   56d ago
People don't think like that man.
snookiegamer  +   56d ago
@Eonjay

Correct!

But, I for one, would be super surprised if Sony slipped up and fell behind MS anytime in the future.

Not that X1 is not capable of mounting a charge. Just that everything is Sony's to lose.
younglj01  +   56d ago
By that logic where is the Xbox One slim version?
rdgneoz3  +   56d ago
Just released for $100 less and shrunk by 1 camera size...
younglj01  +   56d ago
"hmmmm"....
badz149  +   56d ago
He is right, you know.
60FramesPerSecond  +   56d ago
I think xbox one sales will beat ps4 per month at the end of 2014. With three massive xb1 excluisves coming, i have no doubt.
Minato-Namikaze  +   56d ago
3 massive exclusives? wut?
Majin-vegeta  +   56d ago
Forza,MCC and Sunset I'm guessing.
Jaelin  +   56d ago
Do you stay on this website? You have like 400 comments in 3 days. @60Frames
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60FramesPerSecond  +   56d ago
I check video game news more than you can possibly imagine
madjedi  +   56d ago
Just like titanfall right 60fps.

Ah there aren't enough articles on n4g that are worth posting 100+ comments per day on here, not for a gamer.

So which exclusive is supposed to be massive again?

I guess sunset since it's the only one that is remotely new, it's an exclusive new ip, i wouldn't exactly call it massive though.

Is this true fans alt account?
Bonkerz  +   56d ago
The thing that still blows my mind is how well PS4 sold when it has absolutely nothing to make someone say i really want a PS4, since launch really and nothing really great until 2015. Dont worry im ready for the disagrees from all you sony guys but deep down inside you know its true :)
Flutterby  +   56d ago
The only thing that is true is you must be wrong about the ps4 having nothing to buy it for , otherwise it wouldn't be doubling the sales if the xbone. If you actually believe the ps4 has nothing to offer at the moment yet its the fastest selling console in history, what do you think it will manage to sell when it does have something worth playing in your opinion.
r2oB  +   56d ago
So what you're saying is the Xbox One can't compete with a console that "has no games" (whatever that's supposed to mean)? One could only image how devastated your mind will be once 2015 arrives, seems like you are anticipating the gap growing.
MysticStrummer  +   56d ago
Desperate button pushing accomplished.
madjedi  +   56d ago
That is such laughable bullshit, although that user name goes perfect with that post. I can think 5 or 6 games i would want a wii u for and 4 or 5 a bone for.

I have a general rule when people proclaim to speak the truth or claim something as true, they are full of shit and they know it.
Revengeance  +   55d ago
This one is desperate people. He can't understand the greatness of PS4.
gigoran  +   56d ago
Sooo... it's never going to release it then.

Come on! The fanboy trolling of this article is so blatant. Why not write a rumor that ms are going to release a more powerful version of the xbone to make up for its failures? Oh? You wouldn't write a negative rumor about your beloved ms?

Fail writer writes a fail article. Move along nothing to see here.
Goro  +   56d ago
Please learn what a troll is.
ApolloTheBoss  +   56d ago
Honestly why would you even want one? It's slim enough as it is.
SuperBlur  +   55d ago
i give sony three years before they release a slimmer model , they seem to love the number 3 , 2006 ps3 - 2009 ps3 slim - 2012 ps3 slimmer slim :P

i for one can't wait to see the new model ! :)
2pacalypsenow  +   56d ago
i dont see Sony loosing the lead they lead by almost if not more than 4 million consoles
Bathyj  +   56d ago
How much slimmer can it get? The things tiny.
heisenberguk  +   56d ago
Wait until the big games hit in 2015/16, then they'll fall even further behind!!!
stripe814  +   56d ago
so we will never see it soon as early 2020? lmao
RustEGearz  +   56d ago
The PS4 is pretty slim. :D
patrik23  +   56d ago
They don't need slim. PS4 rapes xbox one even in US where x360 dominated. Now PS4 won 6 out of 7 NPD's. Outside of US is catastrophic for xbox one.

i expect PS4 slim after 4-5 years
DoesUs  +   56d ago
So never then?
Mister_G  +   56d ago
Beat me to it, was just about to post the same comment :)
Tedakin  +   56d ago
I was going to say the exact same thing, and I'm an Xbox guy... but I'm also a realist.
DoesUs  +   56d ago
You are few and far between. have a bubble for a non fanatical (unlike a number of other XB1 supporters) comment.
QuickdrawMcgraw  +   56d ago
Don't count out the Xbox1 reclaiming the states...after all it is a North American niche product...Not that there is anything wrong with that...
The_Sneauxman  +   56d ago
Isn't the PlayStation 4 already slim?
Tedakin  +   56d ago
Dunno if overall the PS4 will ever fall behind the Xbone. In America maybe...
Killzoner99  +   56d ago
So we can never expect a slim I guess.
corroios  +   56d ago
Its not fair. I wanted a slim PS4...
NewAgeisHere  +   56d ago
Does that mean the slim will never come:)?
sebzhd  +   56d ago
so, Sony will never release the slim, PS4 will always be above.
seporith  +   56d ago
So , does it mean they will never bring it? :D
Dolf045  +   56d ago
Wow. Slow news day
quenomamen  +   56d ago
So w can expect it a month after the day Hell freezes over ?
THC CELL  +   56d ago
Oh man I wanted a slim too
Max-Zorin  +   56d ago
-_- The PS4 is small enough. We don't need a slim version.
Vystrel  +   55d ago
I can't be the only one who believes the XOne is so massive without an upgradeable internal hard drive is because they planned for a slim model with a 1TB HD?
Current XOne owners will go from "Its not that big it's fine, and who cares about looks?" to "That last XOne was so massive and ugly" when the slim releases.
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Immorals  +   55d ago
As long as it fits on my TV shelf next to my cable box, I don't care how big a console is.

Also, I'm fairly sure it's size is due to the fans? It runs a ton colder than my 360 lol
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