Xbox's Phil Spencer Says He's Not Mad at Bungie After Alignment With PlayStation for Destiny

Not so long ago, Microsoft owned Bungie, and the acclaimed developer's Halo titles were released on consoles only for the Xbox platform. But so much has changed. Bungie has since regained its independence with Destiny, and has aligned closely with Sony for the upcoming sci-fi shooter. An alpha for the game was available only on PlayStation consoles, this month's beta will kick off first on PlayStation, and Sony will even offer a special Destiny PS4 bundle. There's also a possibility that copies of Destiny will come pre-loaded with PS4 systems starting this fall

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60FramesPerSecond1148d ago

I was, but honestly it does come down to a simple fact. Xbox One fans all know how good Bungie is, but PS fans do not, They need some motavation. It would be like releasing Killzone on Xbox. I know Killzone is great, but people who play only xbox cannot

AngelicIceDiamond1148d ago

Of course Phil's not mad its buissness.

Vitalogy1148d ago (Edited 1148d ago )

They knew this would happen, didn't happened with last gen so it was expected for the current.

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badz1491148d ago (Edited 1148d ago )

Pfft...even if he's mad at them, what's he gonna say and do? Bungie is independent and not theirs anymore. They made Bungie went so far as to buy themselves out of them and that's pretty much unheard of in this industry.

But for all we know, maybe Bungie didn't make any of those deals with Sony but Activision did. They already have a lucrative deal with MS over CoD and they must have wanted a similar deal with Sony too. Destiny is a new IP from a highly acclaimed dev team and it has potential to sell bucket loads based on that fact alone. Activision knew it's an offer anyone will find hard to turn down.

BattleTorn1148d ago

How can he be mad?

With the relationship Bungie and Microsoft had previously, they would've had first dibs.

My bet is that after the split, Microsoft either chose not to make them an offer on Destiny, or gave them a terrible one.

The ball was in their court.

pixelsword1148d ago

He can't be mad; pissing-off people that's not under your thumb is a terrible idea. They could soup-up the PS4 version and gimp the Xbox one version just to tick-off Microsoft... and it's not like Microsoft's the top selling console this gen; they're not the top selling console in any major territory at this point as far as I know.

mikeslemonade1148d ago

Like ANgelic said it's a business, and at the end of the day he still gets his pay check.

From the experience I had the last great game they put out was Halo 2. But I have high hopes for Destiny since they have been working on this game for a long time.

Pogmathoin1148d ago

And Insomniac aligned with MS..... So what, its business, families to support and so on..... Not just pleasing rabid fanboys.....

guitarded771148d ago

Well, it's not like XBOX isn't getting the game too. It would be another thing if it were exclusive.

Kribwalker1148d ago

Why be mad? It isn't hurting MS's bottom line as they still have equity in bungie, so they are making money no matter what platform destiny is on. As well, they had right of first refusal on all future bungie IP's as part of the split agreement. Don't believe me or feel like disagreeing, just google it, your answers will be right there

TheKing011148d ago

Halo 4 was a terrible game (and looking at it's Metacritic: alo-4, it's a common sentiment). it completely ignored everything that made the Halo franchise great with it's generic campaign, criminally short co-op, that could be completed in under 4 hours if played with the right amount of participants, and perk-ridden multiplayer.

343 isn't a "step up" from anything. it's a disappointing game made by a company who was trying harder to emulate other games rather than trying to stay true to what made the series unique to begin with.

bennissimo1148d ago


The only reason I'd "boycott" Destiny is because I only have so much time to game and would rather play Halo 2 MP on dedicated servers. I might pick up Destiny in 2015, but given how dense the 2015 AAA release schedule appears to be, perhaps not...

BlackWolf121148d ago

Mad at them?

What the actual f**k?

Who the f**k even asks that question to a serious businessman? only a 10 year old would ask something like that.

I am convinced after seeing the backlash about Bungie going multiplat that Xbox players are all children or mentally deficient adults.

This generation has so far really painted an extremely pathetic picture of the gaming community.

ANYONE who says they are pissed at Bungie for going multiplatform doesn't even deserve the time it takes to reply to their stupid comment.

UltraNova1148d ago

These days exclusives are strictly limited to 1st party, of course with some exceptions where the paycheck is big enough not to be ignored.

Get your game to as many gamers as possible and make more money. Its business as usual and only rabid fanboys get annoyed by devs going multiplatform.

However,what do you say when a formerly exclusive developer goes exclusive with the other side? E.g. Insomniac effectively aligned with MS for the last few years...I know they are working with Sony on a new RaC but where is it? All I see is xbox support and all I hear from them is 'we wont make anymore Resistance games'. As if they have a problem with the PS platform (just saying)

But that ^^ is still nonsense. Why go exclusive with another company when you wanted- quote "more gamers to experience what Insomniac has to offer" end quote ?

The answer? Big old fat paycheck. Imagine if Destiny was PlayStation exclusive, would it feel like business to you?

So what I'm getting at here is that 'business as usual' can some times be offensive to your long time running fans as well. And fan loyalty goes a long long way when you need it!

E.g. I will buy any game made by Rockstar North and Naughty Dog without even known its name, what kind of game is it and without even watching any trailers on day one. Why? Cause I trust these guys to that extend. That's fan loyalty and that's 60 bucks without even trying.

And when a Suit talk I tend to listen with my bullshit detector on.

Dehnus1148d ago

You make it sound like he's a mobster preparing to have them snuffed.
:"DOn't be mad, it's business"

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HeWhoWalks1148d ago (Edited 1148d ago )

Um, too many generalizations to take this seriously. "PS fans don't know how good Bungie is". How would you know that? This is a business. Go read up on just WHY Bungie wanted to create their own stuff, free of Halo. Has nothing to do with Sony, PlayStation, or any of its fans.

The fact that it bothered you means you take the console "warz" personally.

60FramesPerSecond1148d ago

i take the console wars personally because i am insulted personally by fanboys on this site.

BlackTar1871148d ago

60frams those 2 things shouldn't go hand and hand and i fail to see the connection of why you would be mad at Bungie due to that fact.

BallsEye1148d ago

PS fans actually were downplaying Bungie and Halo for years, especially on every n4g article with Bungie/Halo on it...ofcourse that changed when they revealed a multiplatform Destiny, which is a copy of halo with rpg elements and more open world, while models, animations and the whole feel of gameplay is almost exactly the same. Ahh n4g..

Magnes1148d ago

@60frames your comments reek of fanboy which you claim to be offended by,and you generalize like a fanboy. You ever think halo fans also owned ps3's I did and alot of ps4 owners had OG xbox and 360's I did. Get off your soap box.

KinjoTakemura1148d ago


"i take the console wars personally because i am insulted personally by fanboys on this site"

News flash. You are a fan boy if you actually think there's a console war.

Major_Glitch1148d ago

@HeWhoWalks Agreed. It's funny how some fanboys think that Sony supporters have never played a Bungie game before. I've been supporting Sony since they were producing walk-mans, but that didn't stop me from playing every halo to come out since the original. Just because people prefer Sony doesn't mean they're unable to play games on a rival console.
@60 You're a fanboy. Deal with it.

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IndoAssassin1148d ago


Xbox fans hated on the Ratchet and Clank series all last gen. Of course that changed when Insomniac decided to make Sunset Overdrive exclusive to Xbox One, which has many of the same mechanics as the Ratchet series, and the same art style.

So What's Your Point?

Morgue1148d ago


If you take the " console wars " so seriously then why have this quote on your profile page...

"Quit your petty console war gamers"

solidjun51148d ago

60 FPS : kinda ironic you're insulted by what you are. You reek of it.

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lelo1148d ago (Edited 1148d ago )

Releasing Bungie was one of the biggest mistakes Microsoft has ever done. If they left Bungie alone to make any game they wanted, Destiny would be exclusive to Xbox consoles. Stupid Microsoft.

Bungie didn't have to continue the Halo franchise. 343 could do that. Bungie could produce other franchises, like Destiny. From a business stand point, releasing Bungie was a pretty stupid move by Microsoft. It would be like Sony releasing Naughty Dog and they became 3rd party.

Microsoft could still compose 343i and leave Bungie alone to do what ever they wanted... and keep Bungie as 1st party.

60FramesPerSecond1148d ago (Edited 1148d ago )

Honestly i think bungie was holding halo back. they were not the perfect dev to continue a 10 year old franchise, and im happy 343 is in charge. also, now i get both halo and new bungie games.

BlackTar1871148d ago

Holding Halo back?

You mean how they've been less awesome little by little since Bungie stopped making them?

Holding Halo back.......................... ...........

Now i've heard it all

Illusive_Man1148d ago (Edited 1148d ago )

Not really when 343i is composed mostly former Bungie employees. Plus MS still has a minority stake in Bungie.

And I'm just just stating my opinion but Halo was getting stale with Bungie. 343i took the single player game to another level. For the first time we got a very story driven game paired with arguably the best graphics of last gen, along with the staple of excellent gameplay we all expect from Halo.

I think 343i is a more talented studio but a lot of people still think the current Bungie is the same Bungie of old. A lot of people jumped shipped to 343i.

BlackTar1871148d ago

Illusive man pleae explain to me why Halo 2 is still the best Halo MP of all time?

You guys are ridiculous i would cite Metacritic but it's not helpful imo since it's a scam of a site.

shadyiswin1148d ago

I agree, in enjoyed odst just cause it was something new but it was the shortest halo game I played. Not surprising it was more of a dlc kind of thing, firefight mode was awesome though. Reach sucked,didn't bother to buy it till 2 weeks before halo 4 dropped. Still don't remember the story or anyone names,graphics were terrible and on levels with rain the frame drops was insane. Then I pop in halo 4 and its like holy shit! That first moment you are able to control it you are like whoa I thought this was a cutscene. The epic ass introduction of the forerunner gave me chills. 343 is doing a great job and yes most of the core bungie guys are now 343 guys (frank O'Connor) . After I saw destiny at Sony's 2013 conference it was huge turn off,looked boring as hell. E3 2014 hasn't changed my mind one bit. I was going to go with evolved over destiny but now the master chief collection is coming and evolve and destiny are only rentals my book. Seriously destiny looks very boring,after halo 3 bungie fell off,some say halo 2 but I enjoyed the bubble shields and all that madness.

sinspirit1148d ago


Only like 4 Bungie employees at most work for 343i and they have common roles, none are the more important figures from the company.

Halo wasn't getting stale from Bungie. It was getting stale, period. Halo 4 isn't even a true Halo game. It is a generic sequel where just after all the enemies are gone and Earth is safe, surpise! Another enemy bigger than ever before is here and coincidentally crosses paths with the lead character before anything. Then, surprise! Somehow there are hundreds of super soldiers over only 3 or 4 years when previously it took several more years and even then the casualty rate was very high. And then, to top it off. The stupid "Gotta add more drama!" crap with Cortana freaking out, drastically changing how she looks to try and make her eye candy, and even though Master Chief saved the human race, knows what he is up against, is a seasoned war hero and top of the line super soldier, there are character that know that and try to order him what to do as if he's a child, a generic attempt at drama and to add yelling to try and convey emotion and struggle like any generic action-oriented sequel has done in many movies and games.

Microsoft forced dead-lines on Bungie, tried to keep Halo from PC, and only released Halo 2 on PC(3 years after XBox launch) to try and push Windows Vista's launch, which was an inexcusable mess. So much content was cut out of Halo 1 that was in 2 and the same happened with 2, which would have been an astronomical success if it simultaneously launched on PC with a Halo 2 Custom Edition to allow map editing. But, Microsoft doesn't even care about their PC platform to risk any possible dent in their console sales.

"arguably the best graphics of last gen". Lol.

Halo 4 multiplayer got even worse. It has started to become more like other mainstream shooters. Halo 2 was and will likely always be the best Halo.


New Bungie games, yes. But, there is no need for new Halo games. Halo remakes? Yes. So, the new console gets updated versions of the best Halo games and their multiplayer is revisited. A new story, so soon after the trilogy is supposed to be over and we have a prequel as well as the ODST spinoff from Bungie, as well as Halo Wars from another studio? A remake is fine, for clear reasons, but to try and make sequel after sequel of a game without even a clear idea of what to do with the story and with nothing but cliche's in mind it's just ridiculous. It's exactly what milking is. When your game is out of content and has nothing new for itself and yet you keep trying to get more out of it just because you have no more ideas or just want to exploit the franchise name.

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joab7771148d ago

MS got Halo and Insomniac in exchange. And Destiny is coming to xbone anyway.