Naughty Dog Dev: Incoming Tech Will Overcome Character Homogenisation, Talks About Hair Rendering

Hair is one of the most difficult things to render in real time in video games. Developers are getting closer to capturing realistic facial capture and lighting effects but hair rendering is still bland in most games.

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NewMonday1597d ago


I learned a new word today

Roccetarius1597d ago (Edited 1597d ago )

Any MMO player knows the terrible word, aka Homogenisation. It's not something people like when developers do it, because it makes classes less unique.

Well, at least most veteran players know it.

GW2121597d ago

Any decently educated person knows the word too. At least I hope that's the case. Otherwise, yikes.

zebramocha1597d ago

@gw Thier are thousands of words in the English language, not being cognizant of a few doesn't show a lack of an education.

frostypants1597d ago (Edited 1597d ago )

@zebramocha, just about every carton/jug of milk you see at the store has "homogenized" written on it. I'm pretty surprised myself that anyone doesn't know what it means.

zebramocha1597d ago

But that word on milk does not mean the samething in which the word in the article was used.

NewMonday1597d ago


that makes it 2 word in 1 day, thanks zebramocha, English is not my native language

frostypants1597d ago

@zebramocha, yes it does. The word basically means to make something uniform. With milk it's a process that keeps the fat/cream from separating, thereby keeping a uniform consistency. In this case, it means uniformity of characters. But the gist is the same.

zebramocha1597d ago

@frost you can't use the milk definition and apply it to people,the concept is the same for both meanings but the application is different.

HiddenMission1597d ago

You guys are on one...the reality is who really stops and says you know I'm going to read every word that's on my carton of milk...yeah I think I'll pass.

Truth is those that act like this is a commonly used word in most everybody taps into for basic discussions is being nothing more than stuck up...and trying to come off as superior. We may know the word but might only use it maybe once or twice in a lifetime so please do get off your high horse and stop pretending to be something that your not...superior.

...just saying try some humble pie please..

UltraNova1596d ago


While there are many words in the English language a large portion of them are foreign and pretty much Greek, just like the word Homogenization. If we are talking science Greek words make up for 70% if not more of the terminology used in the English language.

And knowing the meaning of translated foreign word is half way there, you should also know the origin of that word as well.

Homo- Greek > Omios: meaning similar, Genization- Greek> Genia: meaning generation

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Edsword1597d ago

I don't want my characters homogenized. What was wrong with hedrogenized characters?

mogwaii1597d ago

Seriously? Well its a good thing.

Pancit_Canton1597d ago

We are not worthy.

Hail Naughty God.


Volkama1597d ago

Mmm yes I agree, well said, +bubbles, I totally fit in here.

Volkama1597d ago

These disagrees flatter me. I would be mortified if I actually did fit in here.

Thanks guys x

theRell1597d ago

Articles about hair. I can't even...

Volkama1597d ago (Edited 1597d ago )

To be fair it's quite a hot topic in rendering. Both AMD and nVidia put significant R&D into TressFX and Gameworks hairworks, and there is quite a lot of discussion around them.

Dolf0451597d ago

It makes a big difference to character modelling. Tomb Raider is a prime example. Rather this than a "top 10 reasons why something sucks" article.

starchild1596d ago

Well said. That kind of article is worthless and unnecessarily negative.

I also agree that well rendered hair makes a big difference. Lara Croft's hair in the PC version of Tomb Raider and the Definitive Edition on PS4 and XB1 looks way better than the hair we typically find on game characters. It does make a big difference to how believable the character is.

AgentSmithPS41596d ago

<sings> Give me a woman with hair, long beautiful ha-air.

In the game "Stick it to the Man" I liked the fire-guy's hair. Even if the hair is on a greasy guy it can create more emotions, variety, etc, imagine you're playing a new game and a guy with stupid looking hair kills you, you might get more butthurt. Then when you load a save you might think "I'm going kill that dumbass-hair guy!"

chrissx1597d ago

Good news all round concerning this game. 2015 can't come soon enough

hello121597d ago (Edited 1597d ago )

I can't wait till we see gameplay footage. 1080p 60 frames i think they're dreaming personally.

Uncharted is going to be a great looking game, but i can't see them hitting 1080p and 60 frames.

The order couldn't do it so its unrealistic to believe uncharted will if the visuals are anywhere near what was shown at E3. The CPU isn't powerful enough and i'll take bets with any Sony fan now if you like?

windblowsagain1597d ago

It can be done. But not on CPU.

GPGPU will be doing it.

Utalkin2me1597d ago (Edited 1597d ago )

With the graphic fidelity they have shown with Nathan in the in-game engine, i also think it will be hard to achieve. But if anyone can do it, it would be Naughty Dog. And i for one would not bet against them.

hello121597d ago

They can do it of course, but the visuals are not going to be out of this world. The CPU simply isn't powerful enough, unless something unexpected happens from now till then.

OpenGL might be improved on to match directx12 and it could help with frame rate. But I'd have to see how they'll manage it. I'm confident in directx12 for xb1 because of what Microsoft have shown.

Salooh1597d ago

Who knows . You are comparing a psp developers to masters . But still won't be expecting anything. I will just wait for what they will deliver. Love hype but lately i started hating it for many disappointments . However, like i said this is NAUGHTY DOG :O

uth111597d ago

IIRC the 30fps in The Order is a choice, as is the widescreen aspect (note the black-bars at the top and bottom). They want it to look as cinematic as possible.

Give_me_head_strong1597d ago

uth11- It was a "choice" because 60fps and full 1080p wouldn't have allowed such detailed graphics.

AgentSmithPS41596d ago

I'd rather have both OPTIONS for SP, 30fps with more details, effects, etc or 60fps. I don't mind 60 in MP.
That's one of the things that's bothered me since switching to consoles, they can force button layouts and "graphical settings" on you.

I wonder if it takes them more time to make a game 60fps and if so how much, would you rather get your new games sooner?

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